Exactly why I used the term. Note I am not holding my breath any time soon. I am resigned to the fact that there are many entries on my bucket list that will go unfulfilled in my lifetime.Guestus Aurelius wrote:Abortion is murder like taxation is theft. There's a subtle equivocation at work: "murder" and "theft" can mean "killing" and "forcible taking," or they can mean "illegal killing" and "illegal forcible taking."Steersman wrote:Not sure that "murder" is the correct definition, at least in the case of killing a fetus. More a case of triage, a case of "sorry about your planet but we do have a hyperspace bypass going through here you know". Kind of callous in a way, and rather unfortunate to say the least, and if we had more resources and better technology and maybe better ethics then it wouldn't be happening, at least to the same degree. But if the dog hadn't stop to pee ....AndrewV69 wrote: I skimmed it and nothing jumped out at me as a reasonable justification.
So, I do not see anything to change my position really.
1. Abortion is murder.
2. I do not have a problem if some woman wants to murder her child before it is born.
3. Murder charges should be laid if abortion occurs after the 2nd trimester unless it is to save the life of the mother etc. etc. etc. blah blah balh yadda yadda yadda. ....
Also, not sure about the details of Singer's position but, based on reading some of Pinker's views on him, I kind of get the impression that his argument is more of a thought experiment designed to highlight some problematic aspects of the entire abortion debate: where in the spectrum from zygote to graduating student do we draw the line as to what constitutes "human".
I could move to Grozny if I really wanted to check some of them off I suppose?