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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Brive1987 wrote:Cute - Brony has responded to Perrott after I pointed out her two faced and less than charitable views espoused over at FtB. Somehow shit thinks they can logic themselves out the bind of having called their host a privileged coward behind their back.

As a fall back they blame it on their tourettes.

http://sciblogs.co.nz/open-parachute/20 ... ntroversy/

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Interesting, particularly this as I think it perfectly illustrates what Aidan and Sarah (in MN's several posts) - and others of that ilk - are guilty of:
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To be fair Brony is blaming its dense bullshit on their condition.

Re the coward rebuke - they actually come out and acknowledge that the FtB comment was group talk.
"Beings that waver back and forth between personal and group language depending on the social context"
Strangely enough Perrott wants to scrape Brony off his blog:
However, as you stick with your characterisation of me as “cowardly” (not even faintly falling back on the “too hasty” excuse) and do not seem to make any sense with the verbiage you use to avoid the real issues I do not see you are adding anything of value here.

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Really? wrote:
deLurch wrote:OK. Lanyard does show Emery as having been on the 2016 speaker list.
http://lanyrd.com/2016/g2r2016/

And Emery does not show up on their website's current website speaker's list.
http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speakers-page-1.html

But given that Gateway to Reason's statement mirror's NCESS statement, and Emery's statement is a near identical copy of Dawkins response. It still makes me feel like they are both satirizing the NECSS situation. Or even worse, it is a poor taste publicity stunt for Gateway to Reason.
That Thom True dickhead is FTB SJW all the way. I don't think Emery is at all. I have no idea of the truth of the situation, but one decent guess is that Thom disinvited Emery and Emery is fucking with him.

But who knows?
As of right now, I'm buying into it being true because I just spent 10 minutes scrolling through Emery Emery's Twitter thing and he's not in the slightest bit SJW friendly.

If Gateway to Reason want's to throw their support behind a harasser and abuser like Binx then it's just another layer of plaque in the arteries of Big Atheism.

It might be fun to show up at the conference in a reg wig and white coat and go all Binx on the attendees as they enter the event.

HEY SECULARISTS........SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!

Just to see how the conference organizers and attendees would respond.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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The Surly, but all of the above are pretty bad. Hangout still going on?

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It cannot end.

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IT ENDED

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rayshul wrote:IT ENDED
I just uncovered this footage of a similar hangout for FTB commenters.

[youtube]g_bQwBWqKjo[/youtube]

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Had a blast everyone. Thanks you all made me feel special.

Going to grab some BBQ and will be back later.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Sorry about the hangout, my connection told me to fuck off.

But for the short (an late) hour I was there, it was fucking cool. We have to do this again.

Thanks a lot Com for your work on this.

Edit: that's a weird new one: "The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again."

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Good hangout. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Will sort out audio for next time.

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[youtube]Afr0xwde0Aw[/youtube]

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Tigzy wrote:What the merry fuck is a 'queer shapeshifter'?
Some days it's an inny, and some days it's an outy.

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Brive1987 wrote:The google hangout was cool but personally frustrating. We live in a place that is an echo chamber and doesn't wake up till 9.30-10.00am on Sundays. So I got to say hello and listen rather than jump in and be inappropriate as is my wont.

Last week I anticipated this and went offsite. In hindsight maybe I should have left today's spot open to another player. :?

But well done Com and all the others - nice to meet you :D

Hoping for a more Oceania-centric one next time

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comhcinc wrote:Had a blast everyone. Thanks you all made me feel special.

Going to grab some BBQ and will be back later.

http://i.imgur.com/ueDbRNE.jpg
Cool hangout, comhcinc - thanks for organizing it. Great to meet everyone!

The dogs wanted to go outside, and the birds were tapping on the window because the feeders were empty. I swear they do that ... it's kinda creepy.

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Com why do you own a picture of Steersman?

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jimthepleb wrote:Com why do you own a picture of Steersman?
Does everyone?

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The strangest thing about it was that everyone seemed so normal.

Cheers Com - great job in sorting this out.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Sorry about the hangout, my connection told me to fuck off.

But for the short (an late) hour I was there, it was fucking cool. We have to do this again.

Thanks a lot Com for your work on this.

Edit: that's a weird new one: "The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again."
It always says that whenever I take too long to submit something. I think it's the session that times out.

Anyway. Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?

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I enjoyed the hangout, thanks for arranging it Com.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Shatterface wrote:Also, casting Scott Bakula as the voice of the Dad in Source Code was a wonderful nod to Quantum Leap.

I love it when sf acknowledges its sources.
That just floored me. I didn't know.

(Quantum Leap was amazing, up until the last episode.)

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Dan wrote:
deLurch wrote:
Dan wrote:Emery Emery De-platformed from Gateway To Reason
I am assuming that is satire, but I have trouble putting it into context.
I seems real to me


Their 'reasons' are practically word for word what NECCS said about Dawkins: 'Wee believe in free speech but yadayadayada hate-speech blah blah divisive...'

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Shatterface wrote:
Dan wrote:
I seems real to me


Their 'reasons' are practically word for word what NECCS said about Dawkins: 'Wee believe in free speech but yadayadayada hate-speech blah blah divisive...'
Faisal Saeed Al Mutar said: Consider me out of the conference then.

He spoke at last year's Gateway to Reason:

[youtube]zmedbENw9JY[/youtube]

He also seems like he's worth all of those moron SJWs combined.

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Aneris wrote:I talked to an Anti-GamerGater recently – in person – that was interesting. My knowledge of #GamerGate is limited to the incidents that rise above the noise and of course the overall SJW situation. I was more interested in an overall perspective since I don't know the details myself.

I was surprised to hear that she found Anita Sarkeesians work “well researched” due to the many games taken into account. Surprised, because she's a researcher herself. She was unperturbed by my doubts about the sample selection, introduction of confirmation bias and lack of context. Things I deemed obvious for an academic.

She only knew about the harassment of St. Aneeda, a bomb threat, and believed firmly that #GamerGaters do this. She was also annoyed by one bloke who apparently ineptly criticized some academical paper regarding video games, and she somehow tied this to GamerGate, too. She then, perhaps as a come back, told me that this isn't the way how academia works: when you have critique, you don't delete some paper, you write a better paper against it.

We got there because of the research we discussed earlier, and it was a friendly chat, but I found it a times akward and uncomfortable and with that knowledge would steer away from this topic the next time. It's probably more relaxed to discuss blasphemy laws with an ISIS combatant.
Yesterday I was chatting to someone about a crazy lady I know who has had to move out of town because the 'negative energy levels' in the town are burning her skin, especially the young people with their mobile phones that have lasers in them that they fire at her in the supermarket (she's been hit twice). She likes me because I have a lot of positive energy, apparently.

So the woman I was telling obviously shook her head about the laser thing, but then told me how she takes a risk on her mobile phone, (because she has to be on call) but she wonders about the long term effect it will have on her health. Fortunately, she understands crystals and knows which to apply to treat the effect of the microwaves.

I started to explain about ionising radiation, but it just made us both uncomfortable, so I changed the subject.

So, 'Strategic Butt Covers' obviously, well researched, even if, to the uninfected, it seems like childish drivel.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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MarcusAu wrote:The strangest thing about it was that everyone seemed so normal.

Cheers Com - great job in sorting this out.
A bunch of Pitters hung out together and no one got raeped. Why can't all skepticism be like that?

We need to send our code of conduct out to the rest of the community because obviously we've worked out how to get along and they haven't.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Also try The Chemical Brothers, who did music for HANNA, some of which also ended up (uncredited) in THE HUNGER GAMES.
I saw them live at the Borealis rave party back in 1997 while in the army. Those guys are as close as you can get to Metal when it comes to electronic music.

Also, I was high as fuck.
Thanks for the tip on the best time to catch the French Army unprepared.
I'm totally fucking with that agreement we had to sign when we joined in.

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Okay, I'm awake now. Is it still going on?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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welch wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I'm pulling a J C Welch right now, aren't I?
Not with only three in a row you aren't.
I've more than made up for it by being 2 hours late at the hangout. In a night gown, I might add.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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The whole Gateway to Reason thing seems like a hoax conducted by G2R and Emery.

https://www.facebook.com/gatewaytoreason/
We wish to apologize to Emery Emery for our handling of his disinvitation to Gateway To Reason 2016. Our actions were not professional, and we should have contacted him directly to express our concerns before acting unilaterally. We have sent Mr. Emery a private communication expressing this as well. This apology also extends to all Gateway To Reason speakers, our attendees, and to the broader atheist movement.
We wish to use this incident as an opportunity to have a frank and open discussion of the deeper issues implicated here, which are causing conflict both within the atheist community and within society as a whole. Gateway To Reason 2016 will therefore feature a panel discussion addressing these topics. There is room for a range of reasonable opinions on these issues and our conversation will reflect that diversity. We have asked Mr. Emery to participate in this discussion at Gateway To Reason 2016 in addition to his prior scheduled talk, and we hope he will accept our invitation.
This statement and our discussions with Mr. Emery were initiated prior to learning of his recent toe stubbing. All of Gateway To Reason wishes Emery a speedy and full recovery.
The Gateway To Reason Executive Committee...
So I don't know what that means. Is Hordelet Thom going to add a discussion about the conflict PZ is causing in the community? If any of these panels do happen, it's going to be pointless. Like a North Korean political talk show where the only topic is "Dear Leader...he's the best, am I right?"

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Also, casting Scott Bakula as the voice of the Dad in Source Code was a wonderful nod to Quantum Leap.

I love it when sf acknowledges its sources.
That just floored me. I didn't know.

(Quantum Leap was amazing, up until the last episode.)
I thought it was just mildly entertaining at first and then they did three utterly gripping episodes set around the Vietnam War era and the series suddenly became unmissable.

I wish their was a suitable phrase to describe when something makes an abrupt change in quality over what proceeded it.

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Riker's Beard?

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Shatterface wrote:Riker's Beard?
[youtube]Ck-VIA1GUCY[/youtube]

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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On the hangout:

Who was that nice fellow in the green shirt? And who was that blonde woman I was finding myself agreeing with all the time? I wish there was a way to identify people. Took me a while to spot Jim and Jack.I don't mean IRL identities, just Pit nims.

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ffs wrote:
feathers wrote:
ffs wrote:
Of course the Wikipedia article on Irigaray has been carefully cleaned from this notable factlet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luce_Irigaray
Just recently? I looked in there the other day and thought I saw it

What is a 'director of research in Philosophy' ?

Philosophy is making shit up about anything that can't be checked to see if it's right.

So what is 'research' in making shit up?

and then what is Directing that?


Can I be head of the ethics committee for the Directors?

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More importantly who was that white dog?

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Shatterface wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:The strangest thing about it was that everyone seemed so normal.

Cheers Com - great job in sorting this out.
A bunch of Pitters hung out together and no one got raeped. Why can't all skepticism be like that?

We need to send our code of conduct out to the rest of the community because obviously we've worked out how to get along and they haven't.
There were even several women there...though not all under Steersman's definition

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rayshul wrote:Chekc this shit out AHAHHAHA

http://i66.tinypic.com/5l114x.jpg

This may be the most retarded thing I've ever seen
Yes!
We must remove the bottom layer of that pyramid

so that we have a shorter pyramid

in which we are all closer to murder.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:On the hangout:

Who was that nice fellow in the green shirt? And who was that blonde woman I was finding myself agreeing with all the time? I wish there was a way to identify people. Took me a while to spot Jim and Jack.I don't mean IRL identities, just Pit nims.
I was wearing a green shirt (with braces) - but you may have confused me with someone else if you think am nice!

Long time lurker - I just recently gave the slymepit my official support and created an account.

The blonde woman (though she did not explicitly identify as such) is HoneyBunny (I think).

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rayshul wrote:More importantly who was that white dog?
If you mean the Chihuahua, that's Giselle, one of my 3 little dogs.

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OK. We can call this a full on case of confirmed satire at this point. Note that the tweet is "liked" by the Gateway to Reason account.
We wish to apologize to Emery Emery for our handling of his disinvitation to Gateway To Reason 2016. Our actions were not professional, and we should have contacted him directly to express our concerns before acting unilaterally. We have sent Mr. Emery a private communication expressing this as well. This apology also extends to all Gateway To Reason speakers, our attendees, and to the broader atheist movement.
We wish to use this incident as an opportunity to have a frank and open discussion of the deeper issues implicated here, which are causing conflict both within the atheist community and within society as a whole. Gateway To Reason 2016 will therefore feature a panel discussion addressing these topics. There is room for a range of reasonable opinions on these issues and our conversation will reflect that diversity. We have asked Mr. Emery to participate in this discussion at Gateway To Reason 2016 in addition to his prior scheduled talk, and we hope he will accept our invitation.
This statement and our discussions with Mr. Emery were initiated prior to learning of his recent toe stubbing. All of Gateway To Reason wishes Emery a speedy and full recovery.
The Gateway To Reason Executive Committee...
With the water under the beaker, I look forward to standing together with Emery, and that other person, as we look up, together, on stage, to gaze upon Uranus with the PSJW.
Thank Emery, Heather, Lacy, Joey, Lindsey and Faisal....
Back to our regular programing.
TAT

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Pitchguest wrote: Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?
Can't it wasn't recorded. It exist only for the time it exist.

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Really? wrote:Let me see if I get this straight. This Hordelet expects "Tourette's" to excuse xir from criticism of someone else on another web site? So why are they mad at Dawkins or anyone else? Sounds like ableism to me.


Tourette's will make you abuse people over the Internet much the same way having a stammer will make you t-t-t-type the s-s-s-same key repeatedly.

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comhcinc wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?
Can't it wasn't recorded. It exist only for the time it exist.
And that's what makes it beautiful.

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BarnOwl wrote:
rayshul wrote:More importantly who was that white dog?
If you mean the Chihuahua, that's Giselle, one of my 3 little dogs.
Yes! :D

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comhcinc wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?
Can't it wasn't recorded. It exist only for the time it exist.
I think several of us WOULD do a recorded one if we knew ahead of time...but expect to only see still images or foreheads.

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Shatterface wrote: A bunch of Pitters hung out together and no one got raeped. Why can't all skepticism be like that?
I raeped everyone with my awful accent and wrestling puns.

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Shatterface wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?
Can't it wasn't recorded. It exist only for the time it exist.
And that's what makes it beautiful.

No that would be rayshul's vajayjay. You people missed out.

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Keating wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Riker's Beard?
[youtube]Ck-VIA1GUCY[/youtube]
:lol:

Please tell me there's a Shatner version.

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rayshul wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
rayshul wrote:More importantly who was that white dog?
If you mean the Chihuahua, that's Giselle, one of my 3 little dogs.
Yes! :D
Beloved by the neighborhood kids, as are the other two dogs.

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On the students at Brown. (Is it okay to type 'brown'? I don't mean to be racist)

The latest news release states that:

The stresses on the students, now known as Eloi, are to be handled by a new departmental safe space staffed by trained Morlocks.

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Keating wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Riker's Beard?
[youtube]Ck-VIA1GUCY[/youtube]
:shock:

What ... what was that?!?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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MarcusAu wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:On the hangout:

Who was that nice fellow in the green shirt? And who was that blonde woman I was finding myself agreeing with all the time? I wish there was a way to identify people. Took me a while to spot Jim and Jack.I don't mean IRL identities, just Pit nims.
I was wearing a green shirt (with braces) - but you may have confused me with someone else if you think am nice!

Long time lurker - I just recently gave the slymepit my official support and created an account.

The blonde woman (though she did not explicitly identify as such) is HoneyBunny (I think).
Ah! yes, green shirt and braces. I'm sorry to say you were nice.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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HoneyWagon wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?
Can't it wasn't recorded. It exist only for the time it exist.
I think several of us WOULD do a recorded one if we knew ahead of time...but expect to only see still images or foreheads.
Does anyone else remember a Pharyngula hangout that featured David Marjanowhatever, who appeared with just his forehead and eyes peeking over the edge of a desk? It was totes adorbs ... I wanted to take him home and put him in a terrarium.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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BarnOwl wrote:
rayshul wrote:More importantly who was that white dog?
If you mean the Chihuahua, that's Giselle, one of my 3 little dogs.
And now I'm confused. I've sen about 3 dogs at least on that thing.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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I've a feeling if the Pit organised a RL convention either we'd get along like a house on fire or else there'd be a Carrie-like bloodbath and the sole survivor would make garbled police statements about spinning dancers and gooses for gander.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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BarnOwl wrote:
Does anyone else remember a Pharyngula hangout that featured David Marjanowhatever, who appeared with just his forehead and eyes peeking over the edge of a desk? It was totes adorbs ... I wanted to take him home and put him in a terrarium.
okay, fine, I think kirb gets the message...

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Does anyone else remember a Pharyngula hangout that featured David Marjanowhatever, who appeared with just his forehead and eyes peeking over the edge of a desk? It was totes adorbs ... I wanted to take him home and put him in a terrarium.
okay, fine, I think kirb gets the message...
I was hoping he would show up.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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I need to know what is behind that curtain.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Shatterface wrote:I've a feeling if the Pit organised a RL convention either we'd get along like a house on fire or else there'd be a Carrie-like bloodbath and the sole survivor would make garbled police statements about spinning dancers and gooses for gander.
Both resolves are equally satisfying to me.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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comhcinc wrote:I need to know what is behind that curtain.
Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain! (it might be Carrier).

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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comhcinc wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Thinking of putting this hangout out on YouTube or something?
Can't it wasn't recorded. It exist only for the time it exist.
You fool! YOU FOOL!

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