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Hunt wrote:Those things always seem to either clog on me or slow to a crawl. When I want coffee I want it RIGHT NOW, not in twenty minutes.
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Sunder wrote:I don't have anything against Watson that could be used in a court of law.
Knowingly misleading people when fund-raising is fraud. Doing this on the internet is wire fraud. I think that the argument could be made that the "Ben Radford is suing me!" fund-raiser, which included a promise of what would happen to any excess money, was partially a case of wire fraud. The difficult part is proving that she planned from the start to pocket the excess.

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Brive1987 wrote:Sucker Punch.
Billie from Ockham wrote:We just got a giant TV and fancy sound system. Thanks for the suggestion as to what movie to watch first.
Brive1987 wrote:I'll bring the beer.
Not only am I in love with sub-woofers again, but I've been singing "if you don't like our 808s" since I woke up this morning.

[youtube]De30ET0dQpQ[/youtube]

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Suet Cardigan wrote:Steve Shives:
The most visible members of the atheist community are blatant anti-feminists and rape apologists
Translated: "People more popular than me don't agree with everything my wife has me say."

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Speaking of movies...

Just watched 'Murder By Death' last night.

Quite a few entertaining bits - but I just don't know where to start with an SJW/Fem/PoMo analysis of it. Gay and Transgender issues were made fun of in passing, and one of the main characters was in yellowface for the entire movie.

Does anyone know a website has a points based SJW rating system - similar to that guy that was rating movies from a christian perspective?

I don't know what to watch now that the pope is no longer issuing an official banned list.

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MarcusAu wrote:Speaking of movies...

Just watched 'Murder By Death' last night.

Quite a few entertaining bits - but I just don't know where to start with an SJW/Fem/PoMo analysis of it. Gay and Transgender issues were made fun of in passing, and one of the main characters was in yellowface for the entire movie.

Does anyone know a website has a points based SJW rating system - similar to that guy that was rating movies from a christian perspective?

I don't know what to watch now that the pope is no longer issuing an official banned list.
You could do what normal well adjusted folks do, watch the movie, if it is good and entertaining ...enjoy!

If it is a flaming dumpster fire of shit, say " wow! That sucked!"

Then never think of it again.

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Pizzy has an article up that explains his uncanny luck with the ladies.

I guess in PZ's world when you want to meet a woman you must wait for her to perform a fertility dance of some kind.

Then you date for six months before getting enthusiastic consent to give a peck on the cheek.

Then you settle in for hot evenings eating exotic cuisine while reading seperate books together.

Pizzy... You lady killer you.

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Mr. X, Indeed wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
I'm finding this a far more concerning debate.

Porn or art. The more I stare at it the more I tend to the former. Yet the French lingo demands it be high culture. So confused.

:geek:
Yet another nude based on his wife, Georgette. Something something misogyny something something old white men.
"The Rape" by Magritte.

http://i.imgur.com/WLyvifq.jpg

Rape Culture.

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My father's best friend since childhood, Walter Mac Mazzieri (sadly passed away in 1998) had a style that sometimes reminds me of Magritte. I used to spend summer evenings at his house while he was helping my dad grasp the concept of "drinking alcohol".

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It can get quite depressing thinking about the situation with Islam, so I thought I'd just drop a positive, inspiring vid to compensate, so here's Majid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali having a nice chat.

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Spike13 wrote:
You could do what normal well adjusted folks do, watch the movie, if it is good and entertaining ...enjoy!

If it is a flaming dumpster fire of shit, say " wow! That sucked!"

Then never think of it again.
There is little intersect in the Venn diagrams of what normal well adjusted people do - and what I do.


It's the pathology of the rationalisation made explicit that I find interesting / entertaining.

Anyway I think I found the site:

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/index.htm

Clearly there are some (hurumph!) here that do not care for the work of the Childcare Action Project.

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The demented relish in his eyes as he asks, "What's killing the atheist movement?"



Would you like a juicy millipede, Mr Renfield?

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Convicted rapist Brock Turner is to be released after serving only three months. Expect weeping and gnashing of teeth.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brock-turne ... ths-early/

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Ape+lust wrote:The demented relish in his eyes as he asks, "What's killing the atheist movement?"



Would you like a juicy millipede, Mr Renfield?
Shives creeps me out big time. Not even to mention he's the doppelganger of my best friend's ex, who was an abusive fuck. I have a stupidly Pavlovian reaction to this guy's face. I'm human enough not to enforce said reaction.

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Cap alert movie review for 'American Psycho'

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/americanpsycho.htm

includes warnings about:
punk dress
sexual obession over business cards
homosexual presence
nudity in bathtub
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two abbreviations of "Christmas" without "Christ"


'Sucker Punch' on the other hand - only rated 55/100 on the 'Offense to God' scale but did measure 0/100 for 'Sexual Immorality'
CapAlert wrote:Almost the entire 103.8 minutes of this film have some image of excess cleavage or dressing to maximize the female for and/or skin exposure.
Shocking!

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Shives creeps me out big time. Not even to mention he's the doppelganger of my best friend's ex, who was an abusive fuck. I have a stupidly Pavlovian reaction to this guy's face. I'm human enough not to enforce said reaction.
He causes you to salivate?

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MarcusAu wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
You lost me at ^n
Does this help?

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Lovely song. I looked it up, and it was written by Frank Loesser, author of famous raep song "Baby it's Cold Outside".

Apparently his wife was quite upset that he sold the rights to it because they used to sing it together at parties and it was "their song". :twatson:

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jet_lagg wrote:Convicted rapist Brock Turner is to be released after serving only three months. Expect weeping and gnashing of teeth.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brock-turne ... ths-early/
I believe that he was convicted to sexual assault rather than rape.

Which directly relates to the length of his sentence.

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If I recall correctly, the maximum sentence for his conviction was 14 years. This was lenient, no matter how you slice it.

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Ape+lust wrote:The demented relish in his eyes as he asks, "What's killing the atheist movement?"



Would you like a juicy millipede, Mr Renfield?
I can't look at that image without thinking: what is he doing with his hands?

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jet_lagg wrote:Convicted rapist Brock Turner is to be released after serving only three months. Expect weeping and gnashing of teeth.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brock-turne ... ths-early/
He wasn't convicted of rape, but of sexual assault.
Lesser charges, which he is appealing.

Brock Turner's case illustrates everything wrong with both our Yellow Press, our politicization of Rape and Sexual Assault (but only if it is male on female, of course, the rest can go hang) and politicians with their hands on the scales of "Justice".

Did you know Joe Biden stuck his old , ignorant nose into this:

Even Vice President Joe Biden addressed the sentence in an open letter to the rape victim which was posted on BuzzFeed, in which he wrote, "while the justice system has spoken in your particular case, the nation is not satisfied."

I doubt he's read a single one of the court documents.

So: we have a young man convicted not of rape, but of sexual assault.
A first time offender whom the parole board (considering various factors that apparently no one in the mainstream press wants to investigate)recommends a leniant sentence or even probation. No one in power and no one in the mass media (with very, very few exceptions) wants to hear the defense side of things or try to figure out WHY the Judge behaved as he did.

Instead it's lynch mob, rule by outrage and innuendo, and hey, let's tip the scales of justice even farther away from defendents. It's bad enough that non-forcible rape and sexual assault has two drunken people treated differently as in regards to their sex: mens rea being no longer a defense for the drunken rapist (almost always in these cases a man). Now on top of that, we are supposed to believe that rape and sexual assault victims will be better off when violent forcible rape is treated exactly the same as 'she was actively consenting until she passed out' or 'we were both blackout drunk' rape.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

Anyway, the Social Justice (feminist in this case) brigade is not merely 'wailing and gnashing teeth'. Instead they are trying to get the judge involuntarily retired, and they've already successfully fucked with the law again. I can't see Governor Brown refusing to sign UNANIMOUSLY passed legislation, even though the ACLU (in terms of what rights it protects, a mere shell of its former self) and most 'people in the know' are against it.

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The Yeti wrote:I really haven't had much time to catch up in the pit or annoy the baboons lately, I simply have been too busy. However, I did just now take a minute to peruse the orbit for some lulz. I hope I haven't been ninjaed on this, but The Orbit has reached the point where they are beyond parody-it has literally become a shit show. I say this because one of their bloggers, the lazy, unemployed, ham-beast Ania Bulia, is posting explicit stories about shitting her pants.To wit: (not for the squeemish!):

http://archive.is/nV9jl
Ania Bulia, GG Allin impersonator wrote:
The area I lived had a small wooded area behind the strip mall. I hoped that maybe I could make it enough to be able to crouch behind a tree. I didn’t.
Usually when one of these accidents, it’s only a small initial rush that comes out. Usually I can make it to the restroom before it is followed by the bulk of it. This time though, there was no toilet at the end of the tunnel.
The rush just kept on happening, while I cried and tried to clean myself up with leaves. I imagined with horror people finding the mess the next day. I cleaned my hands on the wet grass, using the dew and gathered condensation to wash everything off. Using the friction of the blades of grass, to help clean, wiping off on my already soiled pants. Then I had to stand, in my filthy clothing for close to a half hour as I waited for the firemen to give the all clear.
Not wanting all the other tenants to know what I had done. Not wanting to see their disgust as they smelled my shame, I waited a little longer until everyone had gone inside.
:twatson:
I claim more victim points than Ania Onion whatever, on the basis that I once believed I had recovered from a nasty bout of gastric flu and therefore thought I'd release what would be a quiet, gentle fart in the bed. It should be noted that my bird was in the bed with me at the time.

So Ania can quit the waaahmbulance act, frankly.

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No one was asking for 14 years, and even if the DA got the sentence they wanted, Brock would have been out in 3 with parole.



What did other parties to the case ask for?

A. The district attorney's office argued for six years in prison. Prosecutor Alaleh Kianerci urged the judge to consider the assault of an intoxicated woman Turner had just met at a party no differently than had Turner attacked a complete stranger on a downtown street.

Turner's attorney asked for probation, citing his client's spotless criminal record and the support of his family. Family members, friends and former teachers wrote letters urging leniency.

The county probation department interviewed the victim and Turner, researched sentences in similar cases and recommended Turner get less than a year in jail.

Q. And what did the victim want?

A. The probation officer interviewed the 23-year-old woman on May 3 and quoted her as saying she preferred Turner receive counseling: "I don't want him to feel like his life is over and I don't want him to rot away in jail; he doesn't need to be behind bars."

But on Thursday, she disputed the officer's account and complained to the judge that Turner failed to show remorse or take responsibility for the assault.

"I did not say he does not deserve to be behind bars," she said. "The probation officer's recommendation of a year or less in county jail is a soft time-out, a mockery of the seriousness of his assaults, an insult to me and all women."

Reading this, you start to get the idea that maybe this conviction isn't as fair or as solid as one would think:

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/index. ... nient.html

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Clarence wrote:
jet_lagg wrote:Convicted rapist Brock Turner is to be released after serving only three months. Expect weeping and gnashing of teeth.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brock-turne ... ths-early/
He wasn't convicted of rape, but of sexual assault.
Lesser charges, which he is appealing.

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That's not why he received lesser charges. I've just double checked and he was given less than the minimum sentence for that conviction. From the wiki:
the California penal code allows a judge to depart from the statutory minimum (two years)
I'm sure you're correct about nobody in the press actually reading the court documents though.

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Ape+lust wrote:The demented relish in his eyes as he asks, "What's killing the atheist movement?"



Would you like a juicy millipede, Mr Renfield?
First of all, nothing is "killing" the atheist movement. Folks aren't leaving and joining cults or the Catholic Church.

What's changed is that instead of focusing on what we have in common, a certain group of control freaks decided that they wanted atheism to mean more than merely a disbelief in gods.

Since their personal favorite fetish "social justice",( and it's bitchy off-shoot sect 3rd wave feminism) routinely takes common words and changes their meanings. (to enable the theories of it to even begin to make sense)

They thought, who could complain if we decided to change the meaning of atheism?

Turns out most people did.

Atheism as a movement is doing fine. Thunderf00t, TAA, et al are seeing more subs than ever.( TJ just broke 1 mil. Subs)

Unfortunately many of the larger blogs and cons went along with or catered to the noisy SJW contingent and have seen their relevence diminish as the average atheist deserted the drama purity policing.

This broke the momentum of popularity the movement was enjoying.

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Clarence wrote:No one was asking for 14 years, and even if the DA got the sentence they wanted, Brock would have been out in 3 with parole.



What did other parties to the case ask for?

A. The district attorney's office argued for six years in prison. Prosecutor Alaleh Kianerci urged the judge to consider the assault of an intoxicated woman Turner had just met at a party no differently than had Turner attacked a complete stranger on a downtown street.

Turner's attorney asked for probation, citing his client's spotless criminal record and the support of his family. Family members, friends and former teachers wrote letters urging leniency.

The county probation department interviewed the victim and Turner, researched sentences in similar cases and recommended Turner get less than a year in jail.

Q. And what did the victim want?

A. The probation officer interviewed the 23-year-old woman on May 3 and quoted her as saying she preferred Turner receive counseling: "I don't want him to feel like his life is over and I don't want him to rot away in jail; he doesn't need to be behind bars."

But on Thursday, she disputed the officer's account and complained to the judge that Turner failed to show remorse or take responsibility for the assault.

"I did not say he does not deserve to be behind bars," she said. "The probation officer's recommendation of a year or less in county jail is a soft time-out, a mockery of the seriousness of his assaults, an insult to me and all women."

Reading this, you start to get the idea that maybe this conviction isn't as fair or as solid as one would think:

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/index. ... nient.html
Jeebus fuck! Whats going on here?!? Earlier I read a post where Steerz makes a rational point, and now this sensible and entirely conspiracy-free post from Clarence.

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The most organised part of the atheist 'movement' (which predates even the New Atheists) is the Freedom from Religion Foundation. And they were more into promoting secularism (ie separation of church & state in America) than atheism per se.

Online there is no 'atheist community' or 'atheist movement' - we are simply a trending topic (though a much more persistent one than most of say twitter's TT) and a bunch of fora.

Without the charismatic input of Hitchens & others - it seems inevitable that momentum would stop building at some point. It seems that Milo et al have eclipsed us all.

nb TAA and Thunderf00t do not produce much (if any) atheist content anymore.

But maybe it's enough.

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Here, finally is the Defense's sentencing request.
Attached is the long-lost Parole Report which I couldn't find anywhere in a prior search I did a month or two ago when this first hit the news:

http://documents.latimes.com/people-v-b ... turner-89/

Haven't had time to read it yet or the other documents, but at least here it is.

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I use "Atheist movement " in only the loosest of terms. ( for lack of a better descriptor )

I agree the momentum of interest was something that was due to slow down schism or no schism.

T -foot has been doing science and de bunking lately. Most of the other you tubers have taken up battling progressives/SJW's with a side of religion bashing.

That's what is getting clicks these days.

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The victim wanted lenient sentencing only if Turner would fall to his knees and confess his sins. Turner wouldn't do this for at least two reasons. First, admitting your guilt in any sort of legal proceeding is stupid beyond measure. Second, he apparently believed he had done nothing like what the victim described (and given her self-confessed lack of memory, one questions her conviction that his version of events was incorrect).

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I have never seen the term " vulgar and vile" used with such repartition or giddy abandon since PZ's reveiw of the Pyt.

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If you want to talk movement in the loosest of terms - Tigzy might have some more details, if you ask him nicely.

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MarcusAu wrote:If you want to talk movement in the loosest of terms - Tigzy might have some more details, if you ask him nicely.
Oh no! I've had enough shit talking for one day.

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Oh wow, it's one of those old Geocities type sites. Not had such a thrill since I saw a 4-5-0 deltic-class locomotive pass through Wootton Bassett junction.

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CAP Alert Guy wrote: Sex/Homosexuality (S):
bare posterior
Filth!

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Spike13 wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:If you want to talk movement in the loosest of terms - Tigzy might have some more details, if you ask him nicely.
Oh no! I've had enough shit talking for one day.
Oops - apologies for this, then:
I saw a 4-5-0 deltic-class locomotive pass through Wootton Bassett junction.

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MarcusAu wrote:Cap alert movie review for 'American Psycho'

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/americanpsycho.htm
Perhaps you should clarify for the uninitiated that the ChildCare Action Project is a Christian enterprise. Also, trigger warning for horrible web design.

Wonder if we could send an analysis of the Old Testament to them?

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Brive1987 wrote:One of the horde is quite proud of their porn portal.
My Dell, used when I was located in Maryland had a 12 core Xeon processor array, 64 gigs of RAM and RAID 1 drives.
Doesn't count till liquid hydrogen cooling comes into play.
I wonder who it belonged to?

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Omygod MarcusAu, where did you get that site?

It's basically a couple of xtians (at least one a priest) raking in contributions to go and watch each and every mainstream Hollywood movie which then invariably gets torn to pieces. I mean, nobody would expect "The Amityville Horror" to contain so much profanity and violence, right?

But oh, the blasphemous ordeal of having to watch all these movies full-length! Gives us money for more.

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feathers wrote:Omygod MarcusAu, where did you get that site?

It's basically a couple of xtians (at least one a priest) raking in contributions to go and watch each and every mainstream Hollywood movie which then invariably gets torn to pieces. I mean, nobody would expect "The Amityville Horror" to contain so much profanity and violence, right?

But oh, the blasphemous ordeal of having to watch all these movies full-length! Gives us money for more.
I first ran across it in around 2004, and it seemed dated even then. For a while it was all shits and giggles on the web for the South Park review, which it used to characterize as "A movie straight from the smoking pits of hell!"

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I don't hold out much hope for an SJW equivalent.

I'm sure that they could provide the same degree of judgement and condemnation for movies lacking ideological purity.

But the effort required to build and maintain such a site - would be a burden too much to bear.

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Hunt wrote:
I have to say that I do commiserate with her though. Not that I have Crohn's or IBD, but I live in the tropics and there's all kind of shit that goes around here, literally; flown in from all parts of the world. I once had a case of "the runs" that lasted several months. From initial bowl discomfort to the NEED, not desire or preference mind you, for the toilet gave me less time than even this blogger describes. Minutes, if that. More than anything, it was an extremely inconvenient way to live. Not really embarrassing for me. I don't get embarrassed by shit like that. (heh)
We had a saying in Peace Corps:
There are two kinds of Peace Corps Volunteers.Those who have shit their pants, and those who have lied about it.

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feathers wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Cap alert movie review for 'American Psycho'

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/americanpsycho.htm
Perhaps you should clarify for the uninitiated that the ChildCare Action Project is a Christian enterprise. Also, trigger warning for horrible web design.

Wonder if we could send an analysis of the Old Testament to them?
Was introduced to that site in the early aughts by a humor site called The Brunching Shuttlecock. I miss that site. Their movie reviews and fan letters to Brittany Spears were hilarious.
http://brunching.com/

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Tigzy wrote:
Oh wow, it's one of those old Geocities type sites. Not had such a thrill since I saw a 4-5-0 deltic-class locomotive pass through Wootton Bassett junction.
You led me on a merry dance, as Deltics were employed on the East Coast Main Line, and Western Region ran German diesel-hydraulics. Not even the "Baby Deltics" made it out to Wootten Bassett. But anything with three crankshafts and gearing like this:
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could take on a Sherman any day!

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screwtape wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
Oh wow, it's one of those old Geocities type sites. Not had such a thrill since I saw a 4-5-0 deltic-class locomotive pass through Wootton Bassett junction.
You led me on a merry dance, as Deltics were employed on the East Coast Main Line, and Western Region ran German diesel-hydraulics. Not even the "Baby Deltics" made it out to Wootten Bassett. But anything with three crankshafts and gearing like this:
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could take on a Sherman any day!

Were you once a Moonraker?
Moonraker? Eh? No idea. I just made up some old shite of the kind you expect to hear from a railway enthusiast.
You led me on a merry dance, as Deltics were employed blah blah
'Teach me, sensei, of the art of trolling by not trolling.'

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What is the minimum number of banks for a Napier Deltic to be stable without a gazillion-pound flywheel?

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screwtape wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
Oh wow, it's one of those old Geocities type sites. Not had such a thrill since I saw a 4-5-0 deltic-class locomotive pass through Wootton Bassett junction.
You led me on a merry dance, as Deltics were employed on the East Coast Main Line, and Western Region ran German diesel-hydraulics. Not even the "Baby Deltics" made it out to Wootten Bassett. But anything with three crankshafts and gearing like this:
NapierDeltic1.jpg
could take on a Sherman any day!

Were you once a Moonraker?
A thing of beauty!!!!

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Ape+lust wrote:The demented relish in his eyes as he asks ...
I've never heard Richard Carrier's spooge called that before.

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I went for a piss earlier and when I put it away I dribbled a bit down my leg, it was mildly uncomfortable for 5 minutes. Please donate to my Patreon.

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I always liked the "Hudson" steam locomotives.

New York Central used in the "20th century limited".

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Oglebart wrote:I went for a piss earlier and when I put it away I dribbled a bit down my leg, it was mildly uncomfortable for 5 minutes. Please donate to my Patreon.
Triggered!!!!!
My ancestors dribbled urine on their legs!!!!

You are worse than Hitler shit lord!!!!!!!

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Spike13 wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:The demented relish in his eyes as he asks, "What's killing the atheist movement?"



Would you like a juicy millipede, Mr Renfield?
First of all, nothing is "killing" the atheist movement. Folks aren't leaving and joining cults or the Catholic Church.

What's changed is that instead of focusing on what we have in common, a certain group of control freaks decided that they wanted atheism to mean more than merely a disbelief in gods.

Since their personal favorite fetish "social justice",( and it's bitchy off-shoot sect 3rd wave feminism) routinely takes common words and changes their meanings. (to enable the theories of it to even begin to make sense)

They thought, who could complain if we decided to change the meaning of atheism?

Turns out most people did.

Atheism as a movement is doing fine. Thunderf00t, TAA, et al are seeing more subs than ever.( TJ just broke 1 mil. Subs)

Unfortunately many of the larger blogs and cons went along with or catered to the noisy SJW contingent and have seen their relevence diminish as the average atheist deserted the drama purity policing.

This broke the momentum of popularity the movement was enjoying.
I disagree. Clearly the problem is that so few people are aware that atheism is a social justice movement. Clearly if everybody is to hear the good news, there needs to be more evangelizing.
The second problem slowing down the atheist movement is that social justice can just very complicated, lots of people don't know all the rules, other argue about it as they have differing and sometimes conflicting ideas. What we really need is to have it all written in a book, and to form a council who can once and for all decide what rules we all stick to.

We also need some kind of blasphemy laws to silence those that question the dogma.

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Tigzy wrote:
Oh wow, it's one of those old Geocities type sites. Not had such a thrill since I saw a 4-5-0 deltic-class locomotive pass through Wootton Bassett junction.
Get your anorak, you've pulled...

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Oglebart wrote:I went for a piss earlier and when I put it away I dribbled a bit down my leg, it was mildly uncomfortable for 5 minutes. Please donate to my Patreon.
Another example of matriarchy in action. Women are provided with TP to wipe their flaps. Men have to skate the fine line of not shaking hard enough (piss dribbled down the inside leg) or shaking too hard (piss flicked the length of the shirt).

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dogen wrote:
Oglebart wrote:I went for a piss earlier and when I put it away I dribbled a bit down my leg, it was mildly uncomfortable for 5 minutes. Please donate to my Patreon.
Another example of matriarchy in action. Women are provided with TP to wipe their flaps. Men have to skate the fine line of not shaking hard enough (piss dribbled down the inside leg) or shaking too hard (piss flicked the length of the shirt).
You can make it shake, you can make it dance, but the last drop always lands in your pants.

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Spike13 wrote: What's changed is that instead of focusing on what we have in common, a certain group of control freaks decided that they wanted atheism to mean more than merely a disbelief in gods.
I'd put it slightly differently in that what I liked about the nascent and emerging atheist community was not so much that we focussed on what we had in common, but that, having that particular thing in common we were free to talk about - and disagree about - everything else.

The knowledge that at least everybody in the discussion was free of one particular category of delusion, and that nobody would claim supernatural support at least gave some re-assurance that there was some point to the discussion and a bed-rock of common assumptions about the universe if we dug deep enough.

What was particularly refreshing was the ability to look at some well-work opinions of my own in a new way, and to be prepared to acknowledge cultishness in my own thinking, after all one unescapable fact is that we have the 'same brains' as the religious. The other aspect to it was that it enabled me to look at some conservatives - hitherto just regarded as the opposition - with a degree of fellow-feeling as to 'being on the same side', on some issues at least, and at least to understand how they view their political opponents. We could move in the direction of non-tribalism.

All this meant that there was no sense of pressure for all of us to come to the same conclusions about anything. It was turning into a forum where 'enemies' on one level could connect on different levels.

This is why I'll never forgive the SJW's. They blew this out of the water of course. It wasn't so much what their particular politics was, but rather that they simply couldn't share space with people who didn't draw the same conclusions. So they trashed it and destroyed it.

The question for us SJW-ologists is "Which came first, the chicken (i.e the political takeover which attempted to make atheism just another brand of hard left identity politics) or the egg (The claims of harassment, rape, misogyny etc.)

I am very clear that it is the chicken. It has always been about politics and the reason the harassment claims had to be contrived was that the League had to have an explanation for how a happy and functional (albeit fledgeling) community was in need of such a radical overhaul. So either the atheist community suddenly became "a haven of misogyny" or it always was terrible but the poor women were bullied into silence behind a façade of well-being (depending on which SJW you ask). This gives them the excuse to achieve their real political goal almost as a by-product by saying "Everyone who isn't a feminist or feminist ally is a danger to women !".

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:You can make it shake, you can make it dance, but the last drop always lands in your pants.
More than three shakes and you are playing with it.

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On the subject of movie reviews I saw one of Netflix called "Let's Kill Ward's Wife" (or something similar). It was a dark comedy - not very good - but it managed to pull off a weird tone. Basically a group (mainly men but not all) kind of accidently-on-purpose do a murder of a woman. Some of their justifications are a bit misogynistic in that they centre around her not being a good mother and being too loud and opinionated.

The SJW's would absolutely lose their shit over this film if it became popular (or had anybody decent in it).

This is because many of the killers are 'nice guys' and, in particular, Ward, (who is a PoC), for example, decides to urinate over his dead wife's corpse, just on a whim, like, and still remains a 'nice guy' who you are actually rooting for because he's long-suffering and a doting father.

The other interesting aspect is that there's some SJW-style attitudes amongst the murderers themselves. The group over the individual of course, but also that, when one of them gets remorseful, they comfort him by telling them how bad they are all feeling and how much they regret doing it. But then go about disposing of the body with gusto.

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Sherman tank for sale. Estimated value of $280 to $400k USD.

It's in France so we can visit Phil and our tank at the same time. Whose in?

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/feature ... ction.html

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