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MacGruberKnows wrote:I looked at the femfrequency site. It seems like a lot of feminist/SJWs on that site and a lot of other sites that are desperately trying to bring the focus back to white males. I guess to keep in lie with white males [and if Christian add 100 bonus points] are the only evil on this planet and we all lived in the atheist version of the Garden of Eden till they came along. One guy mentioned the hypocrisy of trying to turn the Cologne sexual assaults into an attack on white males - and mentioned how the woman walking in Y for 10 hrs. video went off the radar when it was mentioned that the vast amount of harassment came from no-white males and in mostly white areas the harassment was almost no-existent - and was called a race-baiter and was blocked. But it is the feminist/SJWs who are trying to change the focus from the Muslim thugs to white men and are therefore race-baiting, or race-baiting by race-switching. If it was about white men you would not see the word Muslim anywhere in the site. There is no logical consistency to it. It is all based on the color of skin. The lack of self-awareness is alarming.

And isn't this 'well these other people sexually assault women also, therefore [implication: not so bad]" really, really disgusting?



Somebody please go to femfrequency and reply to Damions post about 'comparing Muslims to Nazi's ain't helping you' and tell the lunatic who runs the site that the comparison is also apt because like the Nazi's a lot of Muslims want to exterminate Jews.

If you do I will take the she-beast Avatar off and I will not even replace it with my just as popular avatar of Zinnie feeling herself up and feeling good about it:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... _Jones.jpg

You have been warned. Now do the right thing.

I can't because I got banned from the place a long time ago.

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Nerd is trying to secure one of Meyers's tickets to his Nobel awards ceremony:

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Whose ass is the one on the left? Because if I have just spent thirty seconds slapping my meat to a photo of a fella, I am going to be seriously...confused.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Whose ass is the one on the left? Because if I have just spent thirty seconds slapping my meat to a photo of a fella, I am going to be seriously...confused.
:lol:

S'alright. Your instincts were sound.

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Matthew Hopkins is currently blasting holes through MA Melby. I'm not linking because I think he's doxxing but it seems like he's had a long series of escalating run ins with Melby (which seem to have wound up favouring him).

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rayshul wrote:Matthew Hopkins is currently blasting holes through MA Melby. I'm not linking because I think he's doxxing but it seems like he's had a long series of escalating run ins with Melby (which seem to have wound up favouring him).
Matthew Hopkins is a lowlife wannabe desperate for attention, he'll blast holes through anyone if it gets him noticed by the nubile twitter starlet he is currently stalking. He is the Richard Carrier of Gamergate, with less charm and way more slime. Much as I dislike Melby's opinions, nobody deserves Matthew Hopkins. Except Oolon maybe.

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another lurker wrote:
It is very difficult to know all of the hundreds or maybe even thousands of words and phrases that mean something different on a sj site then anywhere else. I used the word negotiate on one site. I didn't know that the word meant to use pressure and coercion to force someone to do what you want on that particular site. When I apologized and said that I was only aware of the dictionary definition of the word I was told that I was a dictionary atheist. On that site, using the word negotiate meant that I believed that it was ok for a man to beat his wife. I never understood this connection but asking someone how they got from point a to point b was admitting that I was a sexist. On that particular cite once you make a mistake there is no apology allowed. You are guilty,end of story.
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I have never seen SJWism and all its scary idiocy crystallised as perfectly as in this example.

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"I've suffered for my surgery so that give me the right to be an insufferable arse to everyone else."

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Psychologists have created a Need for Drama scale:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6915006327

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HunnyBunny wrote:
rayshul wrote:Matthew Hopkins is currently blasting holes through MA Melby. I'm not linking because I think he's doxxing but it seems like he's had a long series of escalating run ins with Melby (which seem to have wound up favouring him).
Matthew Hopkins is a lowlife wannabe desperate for attention, he'll blast holes through anyone if it gets him noticed by the nubile twitter starlet he is currently stalking. He is the Richard Carrier of Gamergate, with less charm and way more slime. Much as I dislike Melby's opinions, nobody deserves Matthew Hopkins. Except Oolon maybe.
His writing is spergtastic.

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Look I trust you guys, I'm writing a horror novel right now, should I put some sex in it. Answers on the back of a postcard or you know PM me hey.

/backtoyourscheduledprogramming

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Whose ass is the one on the left? Because if I have just spent thirty seconds slapping my meat to a photo of a fella, I am going to be seriously...confused.
I was just thinking that Phil Plait had a shapely ass. Stupid, sexy Flanders.

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Suet Cardigan wrote:Psychologists have created a Need for Drama scale:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6915006327
I think this thing has a lot of great weaponization potential. I can't wait to see all the drama it creates.

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rayshul wrote:Look I trust you guys, I'm writing a horror novel right now, should I put some sex in it. Answers on the back of a postcard or you know PM me hey.

/backtoyourscheduledprogramming
Not unless it's a mix between Saw and The Hunger Games but featuring various SJW-types. You don't want to be seen as pandering.

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Philomena Kunk's retrospective on "Femininism", asking some tough questions.


[youtube]G5-5cpdAvB8[/youtube]

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The Kiwi Farmers have been doing some digging on Brianna Wu, who has been roaring up the Lolcow charts to break 1000 pages. Aside from turning up evidence that Wu has mislead people regarding her university degrees (she doesn't appear to have any despite implying she has two), they found this heavily shooped pic on Wu's site that confirms Wu's self-image is intimately tied to her artistic conceptualization of women in video games.

https://kiwifar.ms/attachments/brianna-jpg.68014/

Link to verification that Wu failed to graduate:

https://kiwifar.ms/threads/brianna-wu-j ... 461/page-7

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PZ is giving some anti-vaxer's PhD thesis nasty stares.

Amongst the baleful looks "It’s over 300 pages long. Does she think that if you pile up the drivel high enough it becomes an architectural marvel, or something? It doesn’t work that way."

Jebus. That was just Carrier's abstract.

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One of the 'boons chips in to disparage the author's tenured professor:

"In defense of my field I’m just going to note that he (Brian Martin) published in stratospheric modeling and magnetic white dwarf physics until the mid ’80s. It’s been a while."

And PZ and 'boon share awkward glances .....

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http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/ ... rimination
"The STEM field has been, for better or worse, one of the last bastions of uncriticized masculinity," says Kimmel. "You still find that in Silicon Valley. There's a kind of crazy nerd macho where your masculinity is proved by how little sleep you get and how much work you can do. So for these men, it's exasperated entitlement. 'Those were our jobs; why are you taking those too?'"
Women's tech group sued for excluding menz.

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Brianna Wu:
Hair wildly akimbo, muscles taut—one could certainly find these images of Psylocke sexual, but I find them powerfully inspirational. I find them to perfectly capture the beauty of the female form. And yet, these are the same images I’m attempting to convey in my own video game. To me, this is my artistic ideal of femininity
*cough*Autogyneophilia *cough*

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Gentlemen (and gentle ladies), we've hit peak male feminist:

[youtube]iqkSrrWmp8c[/youtube]

At timestamp 1:35.

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MacGruberKnows wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:I looked at the femfrequency site. It seems like a lot of feminist/SJWs on that site and a lot of other sites that are desperately trying to bring the focus back to white males. I guess to keep in lie with white males [and if Christian add 100 bonus points] are the only evil on this planet and we all lived in the atheist version of the Garden of Eden till they came along. One guy mentioned the hypocrisy of trying to turn the Cologne sexual assaults into an attack on white males - and mentioned how the woman walking in Y for 10 hrs. video went off the radar when it was mentioned that the vast amount of harassment came from no-white males and in mostly white areas the harassment was almost no-existent - and was called a race-baiter and was blocked. But it is the feminist/SJWs who are trying to change the focus from the Muslim thugs to white men and are therefore race-baiting, or race-baiting by race-switching. If it was about white men you would not see the word Muslim anywhere in the site. There is no logical consistency to it. It is all based on the color of skin. The lack of self-awareness is alarming.

And isn't this 'well these other people sexually assault women also, therefore [implication: not so bad]" really, really disgusting?



Somebody please go to femfrequency and reply to Damions post about 'comparing Muslims to Nazi's ain't helping you' and tell the lunatic who runs the site that the comparison is also apt because like the Nazi's a lot of Muslims want to exterminate Jews.

If you do I will take the she-beast Avatar off and I will not even replace it with my just as popular avatar of Zinnie feeling herself up and feeling good about it:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... _Jones.jpg

You have been warned. Now do the right thing.

I can't because I got banned from the place a long time ago.
Its not femfrequency.

It's Love Joy Feminism at Patheos

Jim Smith was banned last night:(

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Cnutella wrote:Brianna Wu:
Hair wildly akimbo, muscles taut—one could certainly find these images of Psylocke sexual, but I find them powerfully inspirational. I find them to perfectly capture the beauty of the female form. And yet, these are the same images I’m attempting to convey in my own video game. To me, this is my artistic ideal of femininity
*cough*Autogyneophilia *cough*
Wait, wait, wait... Psylocke...

This Psylocke?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... e58cc5.jpg

And s/h/it's saying s/h/it's attempting to emulate that in s/h/it's video game?

http://i.imgur.com/3gPLhfg.jpg

Errr...

:bjarte:

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[youtube]XTwvH3jdw_0[/youtube]

Where Rebecca explains she can't put a monthly audio out of her quiz-a-thing becasue of the overwhelming labour of organising 6 people and a venue. You have one job becky .....

Luckily she has found a stooge to do the hard yakka.

Where Watson drops the "Adam Savage is progressive feminist" turd in the pool and extolls her great mate's virtues.

Where Watson then dribbles to a name dropping spluttering close.

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Søren Lilholt wrote:
another lurker wrote:
It is very difficult to know all of the hundreds or maybe even thousands of words and phrases that mean something different on a sj site then anywhere else. I used the word negotiate on one site. I didn't know that the word meant to use pressure and coercion to force someone to do what you want on that particular site. When I apologized and said that I was only aware of the dictionary definition of the word I was told that I was a dictionary atheist. On that site, using the word negotiate meant that I believed that it was ok for a man to beat his wife. I never understood this connection but asking someone how they got from point a to point b was admitting that I was a sexist. On that particular cite once you make a mistake there is no apology allowed. You are guilty,end of story.
:bjarte:
I have never seen SJWism and all its scary idiocy crystallised as perfectly as in this example.
Hostage negotiation is raep...


And now I am learning about fedoras on PBS

documentary about Capone

" the fedora is a symbol of masculinity"

"A lady knows that she is going to have a good time with a man who is wearing a fedora"

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Pitchguest wrote:
Cnutella wrote:Brianna Wu:
Hair wildly akimbo, muscles taut—one could certainly find these images of Psylocke sexual, but I find them powerfully inspirational. I find them to perfectly capture the beauty of the female form. And yet, these are the same images I’m attempting to convey in my own video game. To me, this is my artistic ideal of femininity
*cough*Autogyneophilia *cough*
Wait, wait, wait... Psylocke...

This Psylocke?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... e58cc5.jpg

And s/h/it's saying s/h/it's attempting to emulate that in s/h/it's video game?

http://i.imgur.com/3gPLhfg.jpg

Errr...

:bjarte:
Wu has managed to create characters whose faces you really want to punch. The game would have been a success if the protagonists were the antagonists instead. Quite a feat.


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Lsuoma wrote:
feathers wrote:Is she post-op? One would like to know from, say, Wikipedia, but that article doesn't even mention her transsexual status with a single word.
If you want to see scary, there was a brief footube clip posted not so long ago of s/h/it stalking round a table at a con or something, looking like a fucking raptor. If s/h/it had a crest, it would have been raised. Does anyone have the link?
But I was more worried whether there was something else she shouldn't be raising, but still could, wink wink know what I mean.

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Some asshat flagged Damiom's comment

"" Damion Reinhardt AAAtheist
11 hours ago
Just as capable under peacetime conditions? Under modern non-fascist regimes? When they are welcomed as guests in other lands?

This casual comparison of Third Reich wartime atrocities to the acts of Muslim refugees is far more damning and insightful than any right-wing xenophobic rant.""

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They have to control the message. Can't have people thinking that maybe just maybe white cishet men are not the worst of the worst.

I also notice that a lot of progressive bloggers didn't comment on events in Cologne until Laurie Penny published her bullshit. I guess that they had to wait for the "leadership" to frame the whole thing "correctly", such that brown people could be exonerated and white men blamed.

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And the German and Egyptian women (tinak, middlist, kingros) on that thread, those who disagree with the narrative, are either ignored or told to shut up and listen.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:another lurker wrote:
The gall of these assholes.
I think Laurie Penny is right! It's about time we white cis het males started to regard rape as a crime and put serious penalties on it including prison time!
We must live in a rape culture when even progressive feminist types want to apologize for organized rape gangs operating in public because they are afraid it may make them look like a bigot.
It's why SZvan can write about her fear of walking around in her neighborhood at night because of the possibility she might meet a white rapist and complaining she didn't have the spoons to canvass her neighborhood about gay rights and then later sat she lives in a majority Somali neighborhood?
Wow! Steffy's living in the State of Denial. She probably knows deep down that what she's scared of is the misogynistic islamic (real!) rape culture that most Somalis practice, and that it's nothing to do with race - it's cultural and theocratic. Also, she probably knows full well that if she were to canvas about gay rights in her majority Somali neighbourhood, it would show that only the muslims hate them.

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Somali are the worst white men.

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Lsuoma wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Damn. I could have ordered about 5 of these a month ago and had the bulk of my Christmas shopping done:

https://plumbananas.files.wordpress.com ... .jpg?w=490
Looks like they only come in pairs.
So, if I used to cheat at cycling and fuck Sheryl Crow, what are my options?

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Really? wrote:I forget where, but I saw one of the dumb people complaining a long time ago that 40% was too low...so they started telling those in the community and outside it that if a woman goes to TAM, she'll be hogtied, thrown into the trunk of Shermer's car and thrown into a rape pit where the remaining Horsemen will rape them on an hourly basis, each time calling them a different Muslim name.
Isn't that why women (and men) go to those conferences in the first place? I mean, talking about parapsychologists and homeopaths all day makes one long for some slight diversion in the evening.

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Pitchguest wrote:
Cnutella wrote:Brianna Wu:
Hair wildly akimbo, muscles taut—one could certainly find these images of Psylocke sexual, but I find them powerfully inspirational. I find them to perfectly capture the beauty of the female form. And yet, these are the same images I’m attempting to convey in my own video game. To me, this is my artistic ideal of femininity
*cough*Autogyneophilia *cough*
Wait, wait, wait... Psylocke...

This Psylocke?



And s/h/it's saying s/h/it's attempting to emulate that in s/h/it's video game?

http://i.imgur.com/3gPLhfg.jpg

Errr...

:bjarte:
Yes indeed. By the way, I was looking through an XO Jane thread from a year ago that spun off from an article that Brianna Wu wrote, trying to find a reply she wrote to someone criticizing the proportions of her character design - as I recall, Wu claimed that she modeled them based on herself. I gave up after digging deep enough to crash my phone, but I saw your name multiple times, fighting the good fight. You did a great job in the face of a tough crowd.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:another lurker wrote:
The gall of these assholes.
I think Laurie Penny is right! It's about time we white cis het males started to regard rape as a crime and put serious penalties on it including prison time!
We must live in a rape culture when even progressive feminist types want to apologize for organized rape gangs operating in public because they are afraid it may make them look like a bigot.
It's why SZvan can write about her fear of walking around in her neighborhood at night because of the possibility she might meet a white rapist and complaining she didn't have the spoons to canvass her neighborhood about gay rights and then later sat she lives in a majority Somali neighborhood?
Wow! Steffy's living in the State of Denial. She probably knows deep down that what she's scared of is the misogynistic islamic (real!) rape culture that most Somalis practice, and that it's nothing to do with race - it's cultural and theocratic. Also, she probably knows full well that if she were to canvas about gay rights in her majority Somali neighbourhood, it would show that only the muslims hate them.
So I watched Vee's video.

The footage of the 30+ Muslim men surrounding a screaming woman and dragging her off to be assaulted was *terrifying*

Thankfully, white feminists are putting it all into perspective. Though what happened certainly isn't good, white German men, in aggregate, asault way more women, so who are we to criticize Muslim flash rape mobs?

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Keating wrote:I gave up breaking up your quote as I'm on my phone.

It's obvious now that there was an effort to cover up what happened, to not make a fuss. It only got media attention because of social media and the outrage of the right wing press.

I think there is a good case to be made that Merkel is guilty of treason, and now that two judges in Germany have said they think her actions could be unconstitutional, I'll be very interested to see how that plays out.

What really pisses me off, and what has really shifted me to the right in recent years are perfectly encapsulated here. First there was the attempted cover up. Then there was the weak ass police response. On the night, despite authorities being aware of what was happening, hardly any law enforcement was present. A couple of days later, when people tried to protest what happened, the police are there with overwhelming force and water cannons. Sexual assault and thuggery is apparently unworthy of law enforcement, but saying maybe it should be, gets you blasted with a high pressure hose.

This has been building for a while. Rotherham is what really shifted me from left to centre, and the more crap like this happens, the further to the right I go. At least, right now, the right isn't pissing on me and telling me it's raining. Europe's problem is cultural relativism; Europeans are culturally superior to MENA people, and they fucking shouldn't be afraid to say so.
The should fire the police and hire the protesters as the new police. And fire Merkel. And fire the mayor who gave the "arm's length" advice.

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another lurker wrote:http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/ ... rimination
"The STEM field has been, for better or worse, one of the last bastions of uncriticized masculinity," says Kimmel. "You still find that in Silicon Valley. There's a kind of crazy nerd macho where your masculinity is proved by how little sleep you get and how much work you can do. So for these men, it's exasperated entitlement. 'Those were our jobs; why are you taking those too?'"
The reason for that bolded part would certainly not be, I don't know, that the competition is murderous and your venture capitalists are breathing hot cigar smoke up your neck. No, must be macho behaviour.

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Cnutella wrote:Brianna Wu:
Hair wildly akimbo, muscles taut—one could certainly find these images of Psylocke sexual, but I find them powerfully inspirational. I find them to perfectly capture the beauty of the female form. And yet, these are the same images I’m attempting to convey in my own video game. To me, this is my artistic ideal of femininity
*cough*Autogyneophilia *cough*
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/ ... 24-768.jpg

Totally not stereotypical. Wonder what Sarkeesian would say/has said about her.

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another lurker wrote:Some asshat flagged Damiom's comment

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Just as capable under peacetime conditions? Under modern non-fascist regimes? When they are welcomed as guests in other lands?

This casual comparison of Third Reich wartime atrocities to the acts of Muslim refugees is far more damning and insightful than any right-wing xenophobic rant.""

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They have to control the message. Can't have people thinking that maybe just maybe white cishet men are not the worst of the worst.

I also notice that a lot of progressive bloggers didn't comment on events in Cologne until Laurie Penny published her bullshit. I guess that they had to wait for the "leadership" to frame the whole thing "correctly", such that brown people could be exonerated and white men blamed.
A month or so back, if anyone compared modern day Germans with the Nazis the SJW's would have come down on them like a ton of bricks. Now there are Muslim rape gangs it's fair game to smear white Germans with Nazism.

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A while back Wu wrote about sexism in games in The Guardian. I linked to a picture of her own grotesques and the comment was deleted.

When Wu looks in the mirror do you think those figures are what she sees?

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A friend just read this to me. From Reddit:
"Because they didn't leave to get away from their shit culture. They left to get away from war. They still want their culture, but in another country. This is what makes refugees so much different and dangerous than actual migrants travelling to find another life. They only wish to escape having to fight to keep their shtty values. We are essentially letting them get out of having to fight for their own country so they can bring their shitty values with them."
Feminists dont "get" this. Or if they do, they don't care. Because, as many of you have pointed out, most feminists are privileged white cunts who want to wrest power from white men. People like Laurie Penny wont be affected by this. They are not in danger of being gang raped by flash mobs.

Privileged white feminists only care about furthering their own goals. And that is by destroying white men.

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I need some fresh perspectives. Please read this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYtNQQWUMAMUZcU.jpg

Note the claim that it was "chance" that one of the reviewers recruited by Sheffield Phoenix was also one of the people to whom Carrier, himself, had sent a draft of his book. This is plausible when you're working in a small sub-field; certain people would be obvious choices to both the author and the editor, so overlap in independent lists of readers/reviewers might even be said to be likely. (It has happened to me.) But it's only "chance" if Carrier did not provides the names of the people to whom he, himself, had sent his book, nor provide a list of suggested reviewers. So I take the above as an implicit claim that he did not tell Sheffield Phoenix to whom he had already sent his book, nor suggest any of those people as potential reviewers.

Am I reading too much into this ... forcing him to have said something that he did not explicitly say ... or do you agree that saying it was "chance" implies that Carrier did not tell Sheffield Phoenix to whom he had already sent a draft of his book?

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It's almost the actual percentage of women in the active atheist community, except when it's not

Also conferences that do not match population demographics in their speakers or attendees must be called racist and publicly shamed, but not 'socially conscious' networks like FTB or the conferences THEY support even when they fail by the same measures, because reasons

Also driving off minority voices in your own network for being slightly too conservatism isn't sexist or racist, but criticizing any tribal feminist for any reason is conclusive proof of murderous levels of misogyny because reasons

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another lurker wrote:A friend just read this to me. From Reddit:
"Because they didn't leave to get away from their shit culture. They left to get away from war. They still want their culture, but in another country. This is what makes refugees so much different and dangerous than actual migrants travelling to find another life. They only wish to escape having to fight to keep their shtty values. We are essentially letting them get out of having to fight for their own country so they can bring their shitty values with them."
Feminists dont "get" this. Or if they do, they don't care. Because, as many of you have pointed out, most feminists are privileged white cunts who want to wrest power from white men. People like Laurie Penny wont be affected by this. They are not in danger of being gang raped by flash mobs.

Privileged white feminists only care about furthering their own goals. And that is by destroying white men.
I honestly think you're giving them too much credit for foresight.

Imagine you're a spoiled toddler who's been left in the care of two adults. One adult wants you to be happy, wants you to like them and can't bear to hear you cry. The other adult doesn't care if you're happy, doesn't care if you like them, doesn't care if you cry, and only cares that you do what you're told.

Which adult's life do you make a misery?

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another lurker wrote:A friend just read this to me. From Reddit:
"Because they didn't leave to get away from their shit culture. They left to get away from war. They still want their culture, but in another country. This is what makes refugees so much different and dangerous than actual migrants travelling to find another life. They only wish to escape having to fight to keep their shtty values. We are essentially letting them get out of having to fight for their own country so they can bring their shitty values with them."
Feminists dont "get" this. Or if they do, they don't care. Because, as many of you have pointed out, most feminists are privileged white cunts who want to wrest power from white men. People like Laurie Penny wont be affected by this. They are not in danger of being gang raped by flash mobs.

Privileged white feminists only care about furthering their own goals. And that is by destroying white men.
In general, "liberals" don't get this. Lots of people on the left have a different view of "honor" than people who are more right leaning.

Noam Chomsky typifies a kind of thinking that proposes the ethic of "honor" is morally bad. He just doesn't believe in honor.

In my mind, it is not honorable for young healthy men to run from their home and country because people are fighting a civil war and they can't find a job. Their duty should be to protect and build up their home and to secure it for the future. They are cowards, but the left denys this kind of moral thinking. To a leftist every individual is only a victim. To a leftist it is unfair to ask them to fight for their home.

Germans have a right and a duty to define what it is like to be a German citizen. Of course, it is kind and generous to allow others to join their "club" and it is kind and generous to welcome people in need... but... it is critical to define the terms of this generosity. I agree that this current batch of migrants will be very different than those of the past. These folks will show up with their bellies empty and their minds closed.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:I need some fresh perspectives. Please read this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYtNQQWUMAMUZcU.jpg

Note the claim that it was "chance" that one of the reviewers recruited by Sheffield Phoenix was also one of the people to whom Carrier, himself, had sent a draft of his book. This is plausible when you're working in a small sub-field; certain people would be obvious choices to both the author and the editor, so overlap in independent lists of readers/reviewers might even be said to be likely. (It has happened to me.) But it's only "chance" if Carrier did not provides the names of the people to whom he, himself, had sent his book, nor provide a list of suggested reviewers. So I take the above as an implicit claim that he did not tell Sheffield Phoenix to whom he had already sent his book, nor suggest any of those people as potential reviewers.

Am I reading too much into this ... forcing him to have said something that he did not explicitly say ... or do you agree that saying it was "chance" implies that Carrier did not tell Sheffield Phoenix to whom he had already sent a draft of his book?
How could he not tell the editors which peer reviewers he hand picked? It does not make sense to me that even Carrier would just email the editor and say "great news! The reviewers I am not telling you about just approved my work."

Then again, this is Carrier, who claimed that a peer would have zero notes on a 700 page book that was riddled with typos and also presents a completely unorthodox claim.

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If Carrier is so brilliant then why isn't he world famous?

You would think that he would have received appropriate recognition by now?

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Guest_0048cc29 wrote:Claim:
Response:
Interesting details about students disliking Melby from long before the BlockBot, GamerGate, and Olivia's defenestration, and about how "some blogger guy conspired" is more like her real life shit antics backfired and even that was moot as she was probably already on the chopping block due to poor teaching skills.
Some of the revelations from this article are spectacular

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much more entertainment on the ratemyprofessors site itself like
Reading over past comments, nothing much has changed. I earned my A but despised this class because of the prof. VERY unprofessional and downright wierd. Instead of telling the classclowns to knockitoff she loved the attention. Painfully rambles for Q&A's -students learned to NOT ask. HARD tests & grader. Good news -redos allowed & extra credit!
and the highly amusing "Very unprofessional in her dress, she looks like a high schooler."


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another lurker wrote:And the German and Egyptian women (tinak, middlist, kingros) on that thread, those who disagree with the narrative, are either ignored or told to shut up and listen.
Of course.

The official narrative stems from the idea that rape is only about power not sex, and that "Western" society is more powerful than the rest of the world, so the "West" is more rape-y than the rest of the world.

Or in political terms: capitalism is rape.

All those ideas are wrong, including the idea that rape is only about power. Rape is heavily connected to certain cultural phenomena, but like many other crimes it's also a crime of opportunity, not of power. Rapists and sexual harassers are more likely to rape if they know that they can get away with it. Sure, power can help you to get away with your crimes, but social support, peer support and lack of concern can also help you, too.

The "Western" legal system punishes rape and sexual harassment with stiff sentences. "Western" society has a very dim view of rapists, whoever they are and whoever they may attack. This was an effect of modernization, of recognizing rights to women, of challenging the idea that women are only valuable to society if they're mothers and wives. It was a positive effect of early feminism, among other social developments like liberal democracy, a liberal justice system, etc.

Muslim societies still cling to the traditional view that the first role of a woman is to be a wife and a mother. Single women are seen as a social loss, and single women who signal that they can choose not to marry as an even bigger loss, as social waste.

Social waste can be freely abused: Islam also justifies the idea of slaves and sex slaves. Sure, there's the usual appeal to "moderation" to slaves (because they could become more valuable by converting/being adopted. etc) but the main gist of Islam is enocurage Muslims to multiply and non-Muslims to gradually disappear.

Thus there's the idea that "Westerners" are also a loss, too: they're not part of the community of the faithfuls,, so their only utility is either as potential converts or as sources of income through the "jizyiah" taxes. They're also a social loss, social waste, and at best they can only become second-class citizens.

Single "Western" women are at the bottom of the totem pole of social groups for many traditional Muslims. Women who signal their independence by not obeying to the "modesty" laws of the Quran aren't even valuable as possible converts, so they're basically scum.

The social support for victims of a crime varies according to whether they're part of the "in-group" or the "out-group". This is sadly true in every group. However the dominant "Western" cultural and social developments generally recognize the "in-group" as a very wide range (ideally encompassing the entire humanity), while the legal system applies (or should apply) to anyone equally ragardless of the subjective feelings of those involved.

This just isn't true in Islam. In many branches of Muslim society the social support for single, infidel women who flaunted their indipendence is really low. What's even worse is that Sharia laws codifiy this lack of support and justify it through the Koran.

Single muslims who come from places where they've been told that women are basically only good for potential marriage or as sex slaves and that "Western" women who flaunt their independence aren't marriage material are going to see Western women are pure objects of pleasure to abuse.

If you add in the idea that they can do whatever they want and get away with it, because the police isn't going to react in any meaningful way, it's easy to explain why the Cologne attacks happened, or the reasons for the Rotherham case or for the Malmo attack, or for other events where young Muslims treated Western women like sex slaves.

The rapists in the West have to act out in secret, to hide their tracks, to use whatever influence they have to get away with their crimes. They also don't enjoy any support from society at large if their crimes are exposed.

While in some parts of Western society the "traditional" attitudes are still prevalent,and they were more prevalent until a relatively recent past today in the "West" women who accuse men of rape are generally taken seriously enough these days, at least by society and by the media.

Actually it's the SJW attitude to discourage fact-checking and promote every accusation, no matter how far-fetched, that could eventually lead to less support for people who accuse others of rape.

These SJW double-standards towards Western culture and Islam are appalling. Western people are shamed for past attitudes of people who haven't been alive or influential or decades, rape jokes (maybe tasteless or crude but by themselves inoffensive) attitudes of some fictional characters in some video games, "dongle" jokes (which don't have anything to do with rape), shirts with women on them (no reference to rape), jokes about women's underwear, etc.

Muslim attitudes towards rape victims and women's rights are routinely excused and glossed over because "Muslims are powerless".

It's time to put a stop to the idea that power and only power is what matters in rape. What really matters isn't power, but impunity. SJWs, by offering excuses to Muslim rapists and harassers, are becoming rape apologists and part of the real rape culture.

The SJW criticism to jokes, video games, or pop culture are not only inaccurate and sanctimonious, but highly hypocritical.

Muslim attitudes towards women cause real violence and the SJWs are still ranting about the alleged damage of games, jokes and toys.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Wu has managed to create characters whose faces you really want to punch. The game would have been a success if the protagonists were the antagonists instead. Quite a feat.
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A good "analysis" of the Charlie Hebdo cartoon that is pissing everyone off. I put analysis in quotes because it's essentially showing the cartoon IN FULL CONTEXT. The cartoon that everyone has been seeing had its header removed. Also it's part of a set.

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'We located a few more minorities! Hopefully fewer of them will be lazy poets or express a single conservative leaning or have ever been victimized by a group we are ideologically sworn to defend from criticism!'

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote::think:

Nerd is trying to secure one of Meyers's tickets to his Nobel awards ceremony:

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I don't know (or care) what Peezus had to say on this subject, but Nerd was almost (accidentally) right this time. "The cure for cancer" is an unrealistic idea, but that isn't because you can't have effective treatments for cancer (never mind the moronic red herrings about "magic bullets" and reversed mutations). Some cancers are already effectively "cured", but that is the sticking point.

"Cancer" is actually a set of thousands of different diseases arising from a diverse array of tissues and organs. The specific mutations causing the cancer, the organ and the tissue where the cancer originates all have consequences for what kinds of treatments may or may not work, and even beyond that level of complexity, the kinds of gene products the cancer is making can also have a substantial effect on prognosis. So it's not impossible that one day we could have treatments for most or all of this diverse set of related diseases figured out. But the idea that there might be one magic compound that will work for "cancer" generally is extremely improbable.

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Shatterface wrote:
another lurker wrote:Some asshat flagged Damiom's comment

"" Damion Reinhardt AAAtheist
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Just as capable under peacetime conditions? Under modern non-fascist regimes? When they are welcomed as guests in other lands?

This casual comparison of Third Reich wartime atrocities to the acts of Muslim refugees is far more damning and insightful than any right-wing xenophobic rant.""

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They have to control the message. Can't have people thinking that maybe just maybe white cishet men are not the worst of the worst.

I also notice that a lot of progressive bloggers didn't comment on events in Cologne until Laurie Penny published her bullshit. I guess that they had to wait for the "leadership" to frame the whole thing "correctly", such that brown people could be exonerated and white men blamed.
A month or so back, if anyone compared modern day Germans with the Nazis the SJW's would have come down on them like a ton of bricks. Now there are Muslim rape gangs it's fair game to smear white Germans with Nazism.
Yeah, Damion's likely to being banned for 'arguing in bad faith'*, which (despite his history at the Pit) he is NOT doing over there.

The LJF mods are on the edge of losing their shit, incapable of handling disagreement, especially with themselves. Why is it that these strong, assertive feminist women always need safe spaces free from the terrible harassment of opposing views?


* 'arguing in bad faith' = continuing to disagree, instead of shutting up & listening

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Old_ones wrote:
I don't know (or care) what Peezus had to say on this subject, but Nerd was almost (accidentally) right this time. "The cure for cancer" is an unrealistic idea, but that isn't because you can't have effective treatments for cancer (never mind the moronic red herrings about "magic bullets" and reversed mutations). Some cancers are already effectively "cured", but that is the sticking point.

"Cancer" is actually a set of thousands of different diseases arising from a diverse array of tissues and organs. The specific mutations causing the cancer, the organ and the tissue where the cancer originates all have consequences for what kinds of treatments may or may not work, and even beyond that level of complexity, the kinds of gene products the cancer is making can also have a substantial effect on prognosis. So it's not impossible that one day we could have treatments for most or all of this diverse set of related diseases figured out. But the idea that there might be one magic compound that will work for "cancer" generally is extremely improbable.
I often respond to people hoping for "A cure for cancer" by saying, "_A_ cure for cancer is like asking for _A_ cure for virus."

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feathers wrote:
another lurker wrote:http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/ ... rimination
"The STEM field has been, for better or worse, one of the last bastions of uncriticized masculinity," says Kimmel. "You still find that in Silicon Valley. There's a kind of crazy nerd macho where your masculinity is proved by how little sleep you get and how much work you can do. So for these men, it's exasperated entitlement. 'Those were our jobs; why are you taking those too?'"
The reason for that bolded part would certainly not be, I don't know, that the competition is murderous and your venture capitalists are breathing hot cigar smoke up your neck. No, must be macho behaviour.
My personal experience in high tech in the SF Bay was, everybody - male and female equally - either embraced or was caught up in that workaholic ethos. At one particularly hyper firm, my boss was the COO, a woman who put in 90 hours a week. She strongly pressured non-engineer employees to come in on Saturday mornings and run our betas for bugs.

Which is why I am now sitting in my cabin in the woods, sipping my coffee, reading the Pit, and about to make my 30 second commute to work.

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Really? wrote:How could he not tell the editors which peer reviewers he hand picked? It does not make sense to me that even Carrier would just email the editor and say "great news! The reviewers I am not telling you about just approved my work."
Keep in mind that anyone to whom the author sends something for comments is not a "reviewer" by any (normal) definition. And when the author actually submits the thing, they aren't obligated to tell editors the names of people who have already seen it and provided feedback ... although one usually thanks them in the author note. Sometimes authors are asked for suggested reviewers and that's when the author really ought to list those who have already seen it and/or have a conflict of interest, but even this varies or is a gray area. (I know of cases when an author got positive feedback when they sent a draft to a buddy, but then that same buddy wrote a vicious review when the paper was actually submitted.) But when an author tells an editor something like "you should publish this because I've already sent it around and people [named or not named] all love it" (which really does happen), good editors know to laugh and ignore this.

My question is really about nailing down what Carrier is claiming happened with his book. This bit about it being "chance" that one of his draft-commenters also ending up as a real reviewer just doesn't ring true. My guess is that Carrier at least told Sheffield Phoenix who had already seen it, making the claim that it was "chance" a(nother) lie. But maybe I'm forcing him to have said something that he didn't actually say.

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John D wrote:In general, "liberals" don't get this. Lots of people on the left have a different view of "honor" than people who are more right leaning.

Noam Chomsky typifies a kind of thinking that proposes the ethic of "honor" is morally bad. He just doesn't believe in honor.

In my mind, it is not honorable for young healthy men to run from their home and country because people are fighting a civil war and they can't find a job. Their duty should be to protect and build up their home and to secure it for the future. They are cowards, but the left denys this kind of moral thinking. To a leftist every individual is only a victim. To a leftist it is unfair to ask them to fight for their home.

Germans have a right and a duty to define what it is like to be a German citizen. Of course, it is kind and generous to allow others to join their "club" and it is kind and generous to welcome people in need... but... it is critical to define the terms of this generosity. I agree that this current batch of migrants will be very different than those of the past. These folks will show up with their bellies empty and their minds closed.
I have to say that I don't agree. If you are being targeted by the goverment there's nothing "dishonorable" in understanding that you're going to get massacred, pack your stuff and leave. However it comes down to who is actually fleeing a country because they are targeted by the government and who is abusing the refugee system to immigrate for other reasons, and then is many times going to abuse their refugee status to get away with bad behavior.

Immigrating for economic reasons isn't a bad idea per se. Immigrating for economic reasons while pretending to be a refugee shows the idea that you want to cheat the system, to break and bend rules for your own advantage. That's what is "dishonorable", or better yet an unethical attitude to have.

Using the system of refugees as someone who isn't directly targeted by the oppressive goverment is a red flag. It shows that you're willing to take advantage of the laws of the country that hosts you to get what you want.

Now I'm sure that many if not most of the refugees from Syria and Iraq are actual refugees, i.e. people who were afraid of losing their life or freedom at the hands of the ISIS government. However what's odd to me is that the demographics of the refugees do not reflect the demographics of the people targeted by ISIS. 57% of the refugees are single males and most of them are Sunni Muslims, while ISIS is deliberately and disproportionately targeting women, atheists, Yazidis and Christians.

Perhaps some better vetting and regulation is needed to weed out some potential immigrants who are abusing the refugee system, especially since the old regulations have been denounced as inefficient by many countries, inlcuding Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy and Switzerland.

The "no limits" policy of Angela Merkel has failed. "Some limits" are needed.

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