If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Shatterface wrote:

rayshul wrote:Still amazing that no pics of the Swastishit have surfaced, in this age of cellphones and instagram...

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/12/miz ... ial-slurs/

As you can see, it's far worse than what happened in Paris.

OH MY GOD IT ACTUALLY EXISTS!!!

Well colour me totally incorrect!

rayshul wrote:Still amazing that no pics of the Swastishit have surfaced, in this age of cellphones and instagram...

I've seen some pics. http://gawker.com/heres-the-poop-swastika-1742228106

:nin:

A Cal State Long Beach student was among those killed in the Paris terrorist attacks, according to the university.

Nohemi Gonzalez, a 23-year-old design student from the El Monte area, was part of an international exchange program at the Strate School of Design. She was dining with fellow Cal State Long Beach students at a Paris restaurant Friday night when she was killed, the university's president said. The 16 other students studying in France have been reported safe.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Ape+lust wrote:

Really? wrote:Here we go.

Ah, well. That's fucked. Now I want to see just what it was he said she deems racist, but I'll have to wait until there are static copies uploaded. Streaming usually involve protocols I don't have plugins for.

I honestly think the whole thing was a setup. This guy embarrassed 'their side' and he is white.
I'm afraid it is not safe to have an SJW as a 'friend' no matter how long you know them. They are always susceptible to being bullied into throwing you under the bus as atonement, and that's only if they are not going to deliberately use you in one of their political or social power games. As for Skepticon I think they wanted one of the BLM protestors from Mizzou, as they couldn't get one of their political co-conspirators they decided to 'settle' for one of the reporters -who besides still giving the con publicity- could be made to pay (at the slightest slipup assuming our poor guy here was actually ever given a 'chance' at all) for their political sins in covering Mizzou in anything less than a totally syncophantic way.

Ericb wrote:Also the passports would enable to names of the "martrys" to be splashed across the world and speed their way to paradise.

"Martyr" - the new definition of "shithead"

Gumby wrote:

Sunder wrote:

Gumby wrote:

Good question. Ask your former pal PZ Myers and his horde.

The fucking replies.

Wow... just wow.

That might just be the most retarded thing ever written. I'm impressed.

Billie from Ockham wrote:

rayshul wrote:Still amazing that no pics of the Swastishit have surfaced, in this age of cellphones and instagram...

I've seen some pics. http://gawker.com/heres-the-poop-swastika-1742228106

Very tall racist.

free thoughtpolice wrote:[youtube]GiQuCdv3A98[/youtube]

On those polling reports. I would want to see those same questions posed to other religions. Sometimes polls have weaknesses, and by questioning other religions, we could see about how reliable those questions were. We all know about all of the polls where declared atheists also believe in god.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Muscato might consider updating zir Skepticon profile:

Muscato.png

I admit that I'm envious. Danielle's girl balls are pumping out way more testosterone than mine.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Muscato might consider updating zir Skepticon profile:

Muscato.png

I admit that I'm envious. Danielle's girl balls are pumping out way more testosterone than mine.

Anna ball lick

Parody Accountant wrote:

katamari Damassi wrote:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Muscato might consider updating zir Skepticon profile:

Muscato.png

I admit that I'm envious. Danielle's girl balls are pumping out way more testosterone than mine.

Anna ball lick

I wonder if she has problems with her girl prostate?

Given the hostility Muscrat (whatever) was getting for inviting camera guy along I suspect xe misjudged things agreeing to be PR then tried to coax an abject apology out of him for being white.

I mean, this is the spin following the interview:
So that bearded lady decided to save her skin by throwing the kid under the bus, backing the bus back over him, and pooping a swastika on his corpse.

Sunder wrote:

Were the organizers of Skepticon dumb enough to hold their event on public property, or did they rent a private venue?

They rented a private venue if I am not mistaken from the hotels. However it is a free event.

The only thing stopping her might be a red sticker on his name badge.

Really? wrote:

PZ Meyers is trying desperately to inflate the skepticon failfest.

http://i.imgur.com/SlmrCsj.png

"A thousand people", oh my!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footba ... ies-111115

My point here is pretty simple: When you add all this evidence up, there is actually no tangible evidence of anyone at Missouri doing anything wrong or ignoring anything improper. No crime has occurred on campus, no one has been physically harmed. At the absolute worst a small number of students have been subjected to mean words and an insane person wrote with poop on the wall. That's it.

Yet two people have lost their jobs over this protest and the protesters have received almost universal praise in the media.

So why is no one else in the mainstream media pointing out these facts or asking these questions?

Because if everyone else starts asking the same questions I'm asking it's hard to come to any conclusion other than this one: this entire University of Missouri protest is a manufactured sham.

plethora. :lol: :lol:

In retrospect it’s very clear now that if they could not find any representative voices from the ConcernedStudent1950 movement to participate then they should have canceled Schierbecker’s talk entirely. Frankly this should have been obvious from the start. A talk on racism with no black panelists is like having a bunch of men get up and do a panel on institutional oppression of women. It’s whitesplaining is what that is.
Next year the harassment and conduct policies really need to include some better procedures for vetting panels in advance and ensuring adequate represenatation from traditionally marginalized and non privileged classes. If there is a lack of representation then the panel doesn’t happen. There also needs to be a formal procedure for ending a talk in the middle if it goes off the rails like this. Maybe one or more of the con organizers should have constant control over the mics so they can just cut it off if the speakers step over the line? Maybe they can find some way to use phone apps and allow attendees to voice concerns in real time while the talk is happening and if they get above a certain threshold of complaints then it’s ended right there and then? It may be possible to apply the model of affirmative consent (from the audience) in some way here as well. Either way they need to do something different so this doesn’t happen again.
There was also an awfully transphobic question asked of trans athlete and MMA fighter Fallon Fox but that was handled beautifully. The problematic question was called out in real time by both members of the audience and the moderator of the session and the questionner was immediately escorted out. Just the way that kind of thing should go down.
In any case glad to see the swift reaction to this misstep and the fact that this is being treated as a learning opportunity by all involved. Kudos and keep up the good work all.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:PZ Meyers is trying desperately to inflate the skepticon failfest.

http://i.imgur.com/SlmrCsj.png

"A thousand people", oh my!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:

It could be a thousand.

If the auditorium is a mile across.

http://imgur.com/OFqYjH2.jpg

I don't know why they don't have some SJW guards on hand with hoses to spray people at the merest hint of freethought.

Lochness_Hamster wrote:https://www.facebook.com/mschierbecker?fref=nf
this is Videographers FB page
sort of explains what is going on

[youtube]RGIeOgqNyEs[/youtube]

Wow. His publicist fucked up. Should have seen this coming a mile away. I think we all saw this. He was chum in the water for a significant type of crowd that Skepticon is attracting and coddling to now.

1. His pro bono publicist did not have a decent enough chat with him to see if they were compatible.

2. Sometimes certain kinds of free help is worse than no help at all.

3. I wonder if the pro bono publicist offer was done out of the goodness of her heart, or if she was simply jumping on a highly visible event to make a name for herself.

4. We should wait to get the publicist's side of the story.

5. Throwing a young college student, who has no public speaking experience (beyond high school & college classes), without adequate preparation, mixed in on a controversial subject, on stage to a crowd that isn't necessarily going to be sympathetic, was a fucking stupid idea.

6. If his publicist is throwing him under the bus to save her own ass, she is a shitty publicist. A good publicist, throws herself under the bus to save the reputation of the person they are representing. We have seen that time and time again from good publicists. WTF! Don't represent yourself as a publicist if this is your end product!

The thing is that the crowd at skepticon is EXACTLY the same crowd of people that were shitting on him in the Mizzou video.

The fuzzy hasanded. There's at least a few hundred in the hall. I'm pretty dure it was PZ I was following as I sought the registration.

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I fail to be deeply interested in the Skepticon stuff at this moment. But what transpires here is top keeks and frapping material for later use.

I don't blame you one bit. Honestly, what is going on in your home country is far more relevant and important. If any of our other discourse helps to provide a distraction when you need it good. Feel free to vent. No wrong answers.

[youtube]4eDWatBD3xg[/youtube]

Unfortunately, the problem you are dealing with in your country has no easy, quick simple answers.

Ape+lust wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:PZ Meyers is trying desperately to inflate the skepticon failfest.

http://i.imgur.com/SlmrCsj.png

"A thousand people", oh my!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:

It could be a thousand.

If the auditorium is a mile across.

http://imgur.com/OFqYjH2.jpg

I wonder what it's like to feel like a conference is there just for you. It's like seeing a movie when you're the only person in the theater.

rayshul wrote:The thing is that the crowd at skepticon is EXACTLY the same crowd of people that were shitting on him in the Mizzou video.

deLurch is right. Danielle Muscato is clearly a shitty publicist and no one should ever hire her. I guess this explains a lot about why American Atheists is in the shit.

I wouldn't go on stage at Skepticon if I had Ray Donovan as backup.

Dave/Danielle a year ago:

Transitioning is a slow, painful, and expensive process and can take many months to several years. As I begin to take bigger steps to change my appearance, I will also begin dressing differently and changing other aspects of my gender expression.

He could start by shaving his face. I wonder how his prodigy got home from Skepticon? A return lift with D would have been a frosty trip.

Brive1987 wrote:Dave/Danielle a year ago:

Transitioning is a slow, painful, and expensive process and can take many months to several years. As I begin to take bigger steps to change my appearance, I will also begin dressing differently and changing other aspects of my gender expression.

He could start by shaving his face. I wonder how his prodigy got home from Skepticon? A return lift with D would have been a frosty trip.

After making sure everyone thought the poor guy was a Nazi, she called him an Uber...mensch.

fuzzy wrote:http://i.imgur.com/eo1nLtp.jpg

The only thing stopping them from calling it "standing room only" is because that's an ableist phrase.

Okay maybeore like 200

Does Danielle still work for American Atheist? Has she taken out billboards calling them kiddie diddling fascists bent on world domination yet?

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Already one friend confirmed dead at the Bataclan. RIP Guillaume.

Condolences, man. That's fucking awful.

Really? wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:

Parody Accountant wrote:Lolwut
I thought muscat was a non sjw trans

Until now, I hadn't seen any indication she was at all sympathetic to SJWs. It'll blow if she's headed that way.

I support her transition and I am happy she is living her life according to her own desires.
But let's not lose our minds. She's a bearded transwoman with male pattern baldness. Should we really be shocked that she's SJW?

The question is, since she was acting as a publicist, was she pushing forth what she thought? Or was she pushing what she though would sell well?

It is entirely possible that in her desire to smooth matters over with the SJW community, she fucked up since it came across as disingenuous. Plus, you should never kowtow to the SJWs in the first place. It is a sign of weakness and creates a feeding frenzy.

I would think the young man had a strong position with his initial video. He should have stuck strong to his initial position because it will sell well to the majority of the population, just not every audience. Either than, or fade back in the attention sphere. Because it does not appear that he is handling it well. I don't blame him for that. That is the publicist's fault.

Peezer in the nack row on the right

Ape+lust wrote:Ah, well. That's fucked. Now I want to see just what it was he said she deems racist, but I'll have to wait until there are static copies uploaded. Streaming usually involve protocols I don't have plugins for.

Don't be so sure it will show up. Skepticon may just decide to drop it.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Really? wrote:

PZ Meyers is trying desperately to inflate the skepticon failfest.

http://i.imgur.com/SlmrCsj.png

"A thousand people", oh my!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:

There isn't one pic that shows the seats where the seats aren't almost all empty. That was noticed, because later pics were all tightly focused on the stage, with few or no seats available. If attendance had been high, there would have been tons of audience shots, guaranteed, because that's how you show off the success of your con right? Pics of a big happy crowd is advertising for next year's con. The twitter feeds are sparse as well, for a convention. All signs point to a flop. Maybe a couple hundred people, most of whom didn't attend any given talk in droves. If I'm wrong and lots of people went then they should fire their shitty photographer :lol:

Shatterface wrote:Given the hostility Muscrat (whatever) was getting for inviting camera guy along I suspect xe misjudged things agreeing to be PR then tried to coax an abject apology out of him for being white.

I mean, this is the spin following the interview:

So that bearded lady decided to save her skin by throwing the kid under the bus, backing the bus back over him, and pooping a swastika on his corpse.

Always funny to see lily-white scumbags like Peezus and Greta 'Fluevog' Christina trying to score brownie points among their fellow SJWs by denouncing white people. They are absolutely identical to fundie Christians telling each other that they are all big sinners who would deserve to go to hell but for the mercy of Christ, secretely thinking that this self-deprecating talk will convince Jeebus that they aren't such big sinners after all.

"Yes, we are white, but we are good whites. We have checked our privilege. We will count ourselves lucky if Sikivu Hutchinson will mercifully abstain from calling us white supremacists. But we would totes understand if she did."

By the way, has Dicky Carrier been spotted at Skepticon? From what I have seen there weren't many potential targets for his money shots. To think that he personally ironed his fancy shirt, saying to himself: "Tonight is going to be your lucky night, Dr. Carrier. You're going to score at least one experienced MILF, maybe even a former prostitute. Someone who can peer review my performance."

I almost feel sorry for the man. He spent all the money he earned with the sale of his deluxe faux-leather-bound edition of one of his masterpieces on this trip to Skepticon (because nobody would invite him and cover his costs), and now this. Row up on row of empty seats. Disillusioned neckbeards at the bar. Not a single polyamorous mature woman in sight.

OK, there was this fat bearded guy who was deluded enough to pretend to be a woman. No, I don't mean PZ Myers. But even Dr. Carrier PhD has his standards. :cdc:

Brive1987 wrote:The bus goes bump bump bump

http://i.imgur.com/SOULN3W.jpg

Archived too.
https://archive.is/BJ4og

Not saying his statement is good or bad. But he clearly has a lot more to learn from, including how to bow out of a situation.

Is this guy really a professional publicist?

fuzzy wrote:
Peezer in the nack row on the right

LOTS of empty seats. No surprise. Be prepared to get kicked out when whoever is monitoring the Pit triangulates your position from the picture :D

Brive1987 wrote:Eerily prescient.

His next encounter with an out of control beast will not end so well.

That deer was trying to save them both.

God speed Bambi. You did your best.

https://veuwer.com/i/3dac.png

If there is any chance at all that some instances of trans-identification could be a mental wiring issue - well D would be the case study.

There is a line between "good on you ol' chum" and "have you considered a mental health consult"

It's called enablement.

Dick Strawkins wrote:The interviewer (Daniella?) asked him "There is one thing I have to ask you. Are you racist?"
This didn't seem a Maoist trap at the time - merely a way of deflecting possible attacks that would inevitably occur due to the fact that his story is embarrassing for the SJWs.
He answered it in a kind of awkward way, saying that everyone is a bit racist - presumably meaning that we all have our own unacknowledged biases based on our upbringing and situation. He then went on to say that he knows that he has white privilege and that he wants to work towards ending white privilege in the future.
That didn't seem an admission of racism to me - although I have seen people claim it was or that he had admitted white people are racist.

Maybe he said something else later on - that's all of the interview that I saw, apart from the idiotic statement that he should not be involved in charging someone with assault (because black people get assaulted).

A publicist doing prepared questions, should not have asked a question that he did not know how her subject was going to respond. They had a long car trip. Part of that should have been going over tough questions like that.

katamari Damassi wrote:By the way Danielle, nice beard. Wish I could grow one like that.

Actually, I am kind of jealous myself.

Glad I came. Sikivu H's talk alone has made the trip worth it

deLurch wrote:A publicist doing prepared questions, should not have asked a question that he did not know how her subject was going to respond. They had a long car trip. Part of that should have been going over tough questions like that.

That was exactly my thought when I learned that they drove there together. But it's worse, in that the "tough question" would be coming from Davelle, not from the audience.

fuzzy wrote:
Peezer in the nack row on the right

Looks like Carrier has a double chance in the foreground.

Brive1987 wrote:If there is any chance at all that some instances of trans-identification could be a mental wiring issue - well D would be the case study.

There is a line between "good on you ol' chum" and "have you considered a mental health consult"

It's called enablement.

Species is a social construct. Absolutely not delusional. From TFA last week:

I’m very torn on that topic. There’s no reason at this time to suspect that there’s a hormonal difference or something similar that could cause one to identify with a nonhuman species, but the sensations can be extremely strong and lifelong. (I’ve “possessed” mobile, expressive ears and a tail since I can remember, for instance.) I wonder if there are early species identification triggers that occasionally have a very strong effect on humans, like the way some animals raised by another species clearly consider themselves members of that species.

Oh, thank the gods I’m not the only one who can feel the “extra” parts!

fuzzy wrote:Glad I came. Sikivu H's talk alone has made the trip worth it

YOU ARE ALL RACISTS
NAZIIIIIIS NAZIIIS EVERYWHERE
YOU ARE ALL WHITE SUPREMACISTS

*audience applauds*

Is this guy really a professional publicist?

I think the way you just misgendered Danielle was cyberterrorism. :violence-guntoting:

Fuzzy if you come across Schreibecker do let him know not to judge humanity by the moral quality of his publicist.

fuzzy wrote:Glad I came. Sikivu H's talk alone has made the trip worth it

Thanks for the pics. Remember the principles of fire and movement though.

Up, run, down, crawl, observe, aim, fire.

Repeat.

fuzzy wrote:Glad I came. Sikivu H's talk alone has made the trip worth it

Oops, misread tree schedule. This is Hiba Krisht, excellent speaker

Lousy Cunt is frantically trying to fill up the slow #skepticon hashtag by repeating everything he's hearing from whoever is speaking :lol: For a second I thought Vacula was there.

rayshul wrote:Muscato is kind of a cunt. Unless it turns out that Schriebecker said Hitler did nothing wrong or maybe set fire to a black person on stage, Muscato is pretty inexcusable here.
I'm getting vibes of the public shaming Watson pulled on Graf.
Or the public shaming everyone's pulled on Benson.
Or you know par for the course for SJW life, as they eat each other to gain greater power.
Next step, Muscato creates a Patreon because her PR business suddenly dried up for absolutely no reason at all?

Muscato's only public relations work seems to be her two years at American Atheists, and 1 year with University of Missouri Skeptics, Atheists, Secular Humanists & Agnostics.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellemuscato

She otherwise describes herself as a Civil Rights Activist, Public Speaker & Writer.

I don't know what she is up to now.

rayshul wrote:It is traditional for SJWs to present themselves in internet photos as nine billion times more attractive than they actually are in the real world. If you can't fake it with camera angles, I guess you have to use a cartoon. Which I have never fucking understood to be honest because their whole message is supposed to be about self love and feeling good about yourself as you or... or is that only when you're using a #nofilter hashtag?

Ah fuck it, they're never consistent.

That is easy for you to say when you have a perfect vagina.

fuzzy wrote:

fuzzy wrote:Glad I came. Sikivu H's talk alone has made the trip worth it

Oops, misread tree schedule. This is Hiba Krisht, excellent speaker

More audience pics! I love seeing all those empty seats.

I support Danielle's right to transition. I just wish I could work out what is trying to transition into what.

another lurker wrote:

Brive1987 wrote:If there is any chance at all that some instances of trans-identification could be a mental wiring issue - well D would be the case study.

There is a line between "good on you ol' chum" and "have you considered a mental health consult"

It's called enablement.

Species is a social construct. Absolutely not delusional. From TFA last week:

I’m very torn on that topic. There’s no reason at this time to suspect that there’s a hormonal difference or something similar that could cause one to identify with a nonhuman species, but the sensations can be extremely strong and lifelong. (I’ve “possessed” mobile, expressive ears and a tail since I can remember, for instance.) I wonder if there are early species identification triggers that occasionally have a very strong effect on humans, like the way some animals raised by another species clearly consider themselves members of that species.

Oh, thank the gods I’m not the only one who can feel the “extra” parts!

That's lovely. Link?

This just in:
Welcome to SJW-land, kid.