If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Really? wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Brive1987 wrote:[.tweet][/tweet]

I'll readily concede that you're the pro from Dover when it comes to detailed timelines and the data to back them up. However, I think you also tend to have a blind spot, particularly when it comes to David Irving, although I'll also concede that the least charitable assumption about him is frequently the more tenable one.But that is, I think, not the case when it comes to that comment of his; he isn't saying, from my perspective, that the Nazis didn't commit war crimes, but only that the Zionist media narrative has obfuscated the truth of what really happened at the forced labor camps. You might try differentiating between those cases.

And, considering that the Wiesenthal Center wasn't able to disprove Nishioka's assertion that the crematoria at Auschwitz were a post-war addition, as they have attempted on numerous occasions, suggests to me that either their case wasn't quite the slam-dunk that many seem to think it was, or they ran out of resources to pursue that objective.

LSUOMA EDIT - THIS IS A FAKED QUOTE by Really? that is not obvious. This is forbidden. Don't do it again or you're out. Last warning.

free thoughtpolice wrote:

Bourne Skeptic wrote:

free thoughtpolice wrote:


How long did you live here? Sounds like you hit a bad patch.

I was there 5 yrs. It probably wasn't as bad as I remember, I'm just not used to that much rain growing up in S. Alberta.

Every 5 years or so we get a winter that is really cloudy, not necessarily a lot more precip but a lot less sun. Probably one or two of those sticking in your mind.
I grew up in the 1950s early 60s in Calgary and have less than fond memories of blizzards, really cold weather, and late springs. The extra rain
and cloud isn't so bad by comparison, though the short daylight in both areas gets to be a pain.

Steersman wrote:

Really? wrote:

Steersman wrote: I'll readily concede that you're the pro from Dover when it comes to detailed timelines and the data to back them up. However, I think you also tend to have a blind spot, particularly when it comes to David Irving, although I'll also concede that the least charitable assumption about him is frequently the more tenable one.But that is, I think, not the case when it comes to that comment of his; he isn't saying, from my perspective, that the Nazis didn't commit war crimes, but only that the Zionist media narrative has obfuscated the truth of what really happened at the forced labor camps. You might try differentiating between those cases.

And, considering that the Wiesenthal Center wasn't able to disprove Nishioka's assertion that the crematoria at Auschwitz were a post-war addition, as they have attempted on numerous occasions, suggests to me that either their case wasn't quite the slam-dunk that many seem to think it was, or they ran out of resources to pursue that objective.

LSUOMA EDIT - THIS IS A FAKED QUOTE by Really? that is not obvious. This is forbidden. Don't do it again or you're out. Last warning.

Different kettles of fish. For one thing, there's far more objective evidence for those war crimes than there is for Radford's insistence that he didn't harass Stollznow.

And, in passing, methinks it's kind of crossing the Rubicon to suggest that that was actually my argument, that those were my words. Seem to recollect that comhcinc was subjected to a temporary ban for doing similarly.

Couch wrote:
The sheer scale of his failure and humiliation in the Radford business at JREF was pretty awesome to behold. I kept yelling 'Burrrrnnn' at my iPad and handing HJ virtual icepacks.

You did solid work there, Brive, btw. You've the patience of Job and a penchant for presentation.

Kirbmarc wrote:
I think that as long as you don't commit any heinous crimes and just behave like a stupid cunt if you ever happen to stumble on the truth and see how much of an ass you were you should be forgiven. That said, if you published accusations of bad behavior or even crimes and realize you shouldn't have had to, you should at least apologize to the person whose reputation you have hurt.

If PZ wanted to genuinely abandon the SJW ship he should apologize to Shermer, to Nugent, to the Slymepit (yes, to us), to Hemant Mehta...the list gets longer every week. He's burning too many bridges to be allowed back into the Atheism/Skeptic movement with just a slap on the wrist. if he ever realize he was wrong, he should probably at the very least close Pharyngula.

I really don't think that Zvan will ever switch sides, though. She's having too much fun in her role to even consider it.

PZ could eventually be reprimanded so many times by the Horde that they could make him snap. Zvan, just like Melissa McEwan or Amanda Marcotte, are too privileged by the perks of their position as Ruthless Feminist Inquisitors to ever change. Especially since if they change they'd be practically unemployable anyway. Maybe they'll have doubts about some SJW dogma sooner or alter, but I doubt they'll ever reveal them in public.

it's the young that will probably change their mind. People like Nate Hevens or Ashley Miller, who have plenty of time to rethink about their assumptions.

Billie from Ockham wrote:

deLurch wrote:Sometimes you can get a time/date punch stamp, or even sometimes a geolocation if taken with a smart phone. Or you can see if the picture has gone through an editing application. But beyond that, you really are not going to find any other significant information.

Isn't this how people learned that Melody Hensley bought a Canon EOS 70D and took most of her current pictures on the same day?

Really? wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Really? wrote: <snip>
Different kettles of fish. For one thing, there's far more objective evidence for those war crimes than there is for Radford's insistence that he didn't harass Stollznow.

And, in passing, methinks it's kind of crossing the Rubicon to suggest that that was actually my argument, that those were my words. Seem to recollect that comhcinc was subjected to a temporary ban for doing similarly.

I apologize if you or anyone thought that I was trying to say that you actually said those words. My intent was to simply apply your logic to a different situation, certainly not to intimate that you are a holocaust denier. If FT feels I did something unforgivable, I'll just go away.

acathode wrote:but then again, the women there look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/gSRA2nS.jpg?1

Really? wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Brive1987 wrote:[.tweet][/tweet]

I'll readily concede that you're the pro from Dover when it comes to detailed timelines and the data to back them up. However, I think you also tend to have a blind spot, particularly when it comes to David Irving, although I'll also concede that the least charitable assumption about him is frequently the more tenable one.But that is, I think, not the case when it comes to that comment of his; he isn't saying, from my perspective, that the Nazis didn't commit war crimes, but only that the Zionist media narrative has obfuscated the truth of what really happened at the forced labor camps. You might try differentiating between those cases.

And, considering that the Wiesenthal Center wasn't able to disprove Nishioka's assertion that the crematoria at Auschwitz were a post-war addition, as they have attempted on numerous occasions, suggests to me that either their case wasn't quite the slam-dunk that many seem to think it was, or they ran out of resources to pursue that objective.

LSUOMA EDIT - THIS IS A FAKED QUOTE by Really? that is not obvious. This is forbidden. Don't do it again or you're out. Last warning.

Karmakin wrote: Well, I've been there and made that switchover. And trust me, it happens HARD and you never go back. It's not a toggle switch..once you stop giving the bullshit the benefit of the doubt it's impossible to go back. Everything just becomes so OBVIOUS, to be honest. Cheong is a good example, once that toggle hit, boom..it's a substantial change.

At the end of the day, if forgiving the people makes it easier to destroy that fucked up SJW culture, I'll forgive the people every day of the week. It's the culture I abhor.

Steersman wrote:

Brive1987 wrote:[.tweet][/tweet]

I'll readily concede that you're the pro from Dover when it comes to detailed timelines and the data to back them up. However, I think you also tend to have a blind spot, particularly when it comes to PZ, although I'll also concede that the least charitable assumption about him is frequently the more tenable one.But that is, I think, not the case when it comes to that comment of his; he isn't saying, from my perspective, that Radford is necessarily guilty, but only that the evidence of a prior relationship does not prove that he's not guilty of harassment. You might try differentiating between those cases.

And, considering that Radford wasn't able to prevail upon Stollznow to make a categorical retraction, as he intended in his previous abortive attempt, suggests to me that either his case wasn't quite the slam-dunk that many seem to think it was, or he ran out of resources to pursue that objective.

Steersman did a sort of Swedish exercise, starting at the base of the spine, carrying on through the shoulder-blades and finishing up among the back hair.

Then he told her.

In the chats I have had with this wonder man, I have always found his English fluent, but a bit on the mixed side. If you remember, he was with Mrs. Bingo Little for a time before coming to Brinkley, and no doubt he picked up a good deal from Bingo. Before that, he had been a couple of years with an American family at Nice and had studied under their chauffeur, one of the Maloneys of Brooklyn. So, what with Bingo and what with Maloney, he is, as I say, fluent but a bit mixed.

He spoke, in part, as follows:

"Hot dog! You ask me what is it? Listen. Make some attention a little. Me, I have hit the hay, but I do not sleep so good, and presently I wake and up I look, and there is one who make faces against me through the dashed window. Is that a pretty affair? Is that convenient? If you think I like it, you jolly well mistake yourself. I am so mad as a wet hen. And why not? I am somebody, isn't it? This is a bedroom, what-what, not a house for some apes? Then for what do blighters sit on my window so cool as a few cucumbers, making some faces?"

"Quite," I said. Dashed reasonable, was my verdict.

He threw another look up at Gussie, and did Exercise 2--the one where you clutch the moustache, give it a tug and then start catching flies.

"Wait yet a little. I am not finish. I say I see this type on my window, making a few faces. But what then? Does he buzz off when I shout a cry, and leave me peaceable? Not on your life. He remain planted there, not giving any damns, and sit regarding me like a cat watching a duck. He make faces against me and again he make faces against me, and the more I command that he should get to hell out of here, the more he do not get to hell out of here. He cry something towards me, and I demand what is his desire, but he do not explain. Oh, no, that arrives never. He does but shrug his head. What damn silliness! Is this amusing for me? You think I like it? I am not content with such folly. I think the poor mutt's loony. Je me fiche de ce type infect. C'est idiot de faire comme ça l'oiseau.... Allez-vous-en, louffier.... Tell the boob to go away. He is mad as some March hatters."

I must say I thought he was making out a jolly good case, and evidently Aunt Dahlia felt the same. She laid a quivering hand on his shoulder.

"I will, Monsieur Steersman, I will," she said, and I couldn't have believed that robust voice capable of sinking to such an absolute coo. More like a turtle dove calling to its mate than anything else. "It's quite all right."

She had said the wrong thing. He did Exercise 3.

"All right? Nom d'un nom d'un nom! The hell you say it's all right! Of what use to pull stuff like that? Wait one half-moment. Not yet quite so quick, my old sport. It is by no means all right. See yet again a little. It is some very different dishes of fish. I can take a few smooths with a rough, it is true, but I do not find it agreeable when one play larks against me on my windows. That cannot do. A nice thing, no. I am a serious man. I do not wish a few larks on my windows. I enjoy larks on my windows worse as any. It is very little all right. If such rannygazoo is to arrive, I do not remain any longer in this house no more. I buzz off and do not stay planted."

AndrewV69 wrote:Ahahahaha! Ahahaha! Bwahahaha!

Really? wrote:
I apologize if you or anyone thought that I was trying to say that you actually said those words. My intent was to simply apply your logic to a different situation, certainly not to intimate that you are a holocaust denier. If FT feels I did something unforgivable, I'll just go away.

Tony Parsehole wrote:******BREAKING NEWS*******
Gender pay gap EXPOSED
WOMEN PAYED SIGNIFICANTLY LESS MONEY FOR EXACTLY THE SAME JOB:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/us ... .wuGdlWVGA

And this comment is priceless:

"Women's WC has less viewers, sponsors, and genrates less revenue"...why? Because of sexism. Worldwide cultural view that men's sports is better than women's sports, which is why less people watched it. Resulting in less sponsorships, etc. How can you not see the sexism in this?

I wonder if the millions of women who prefer to watch men's football are being including in this sweeping accusation of sexism?

PZ Myers
8 July 2015 at 11:32 am
#22, Rowan vet-tech:
I’ve been there! When I was training med-students in an animal surgery, that was my primary job: they were doing the cutting, I was trying to keep the animal alive, and it was constant, nerve-wracking monitoring. My personal nightmare was not giving enough anesthetic, and having the poor thing wake up mid-surgery — you were constantly trying to keep the animal in this narrow window between death and consciousness.
Rabbits were the worst. That window was so narrow, they were so fragile, and if they woke up they’d start screaming. I’d have to hover over them constantly, watching heart rate and breathing rate, and adjusting the anesthetic practically minute by minute.
Rabbits convinced me my future was going to be in invertebrates and fish.

bhoytony wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:******BREAKING NEWS*******
Gender pay gap EXPOSED
WOMEN PAYED SIGNIFICANTLY LESS MONEY FOR EXACTLY THE SAME JOB:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/us ... .wuGdlWVGA

And this comment is priceless:

"Women's WC has less viewers, sponsors, and genrates less revenue"...why? Because of sexism. Worldwide cultural view that men's sports is better than women's sports, which is why less people watched it. Resulting in less sponsorships, etc. How can you not see the sexism in this?

I wonder if the millions of women who prefer to watch men's football are being including in this sweeping accusation of sexism?

I have to agree with someone I heard on a footy podcast last week who had watched it all and reckoned that Stenhousemuir would have gubbed all of the teams in it.

Brive1987 wrote:

Really? wrote:
I apologize if you or anyone thought that I was trying to say that you actually said those words. My intent was to simply apply your logic to a different situation, certainly not to intimate that you are a holocaust denier. If FT feels I did something unforgivable, I'll just go away.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... 6d6124.jpg

Steersman wrote:But that said, he [HJ Hornbeck] seems to be quite knowledgeable in a number of areas, notably statistics and Bayes Theorem.

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:And Svan is hardly scary. Didn't La-Den the perpetually greasy pull Svanatee's leash hard when Svan went after a target Laden was fond of? I seem to recall that ol' Steph took her spanking with proper grovelling and whining.

BarnOwl wrote:So PeeZus falls for a post on some social media site for MDs, presented as a training experience in vascular surgery, but soon revealed to be a fictional account.

Josh, Official SpokesGay wrote:Wait– no one here actually believes that “this was fiction,” do they? Do you really, truly think that’s plausible? That she would write this in a way that clearly and intentionally frames it as a first-person narrative, and simply forgot to say it was a joke until later? This is really convincing enough to folks that you’re saying, “Well, it was in bad taste.”
Really?

Charly wrote:I do not believe for one femtosecond that it is a fiction. This does not read as a real apology, it reads as backpedalling. In any case – if fiction or not, I would not let the doctor who wrote this to touch me with three meter long broomstick, let alone cut into my body. I sure as hell would rather die.

anteprepro wrote:Yeah, she is obviously lying about the “fiction”. Exhibit 1097: Watch her Twitter feed over the last day!

pacal wrote:Leaving aside the question of whether or the story was or was not a fiction, it is clear that the author regarded the patient subject to this “test” as a thing. The patient was a in the eyes of the writer a mere object to be worked whose consent or lack thereof is an irrelevancy compared to being used as a object to perform a test on.

feathers wrote:

jugheadnaut wrote:Holy crap, it's annoying. I think it's a big reason why that even at a Grand Slam tournament, early round matches by top women players are sparsely attended. Here are scenes from a match a few years ago between probably the worst offender, Michelle Larcher de Brito and close contender Maria Sharapova.

[youtube]bi8R9JbF2cc[/youtube]

Can't the referee issue a classical Quiet, please - but now directed to the players rather than the public? I don't watch tennis but this seems way out of line.

Kirbmarc wrote:Especially since if they change they'd be practically unemployable anyway. Maybe they'll have doubts about some SJW dogma sooner or alter, but I doubt they'll ever reveal them in public.

jugheadnaut wrote: ...........
I personally hate Victoria Azarenka the most though, because not only does her 3 second long 'WOOOOOH' wail after every shot drive me insane, she's a despicable and unsportsmanlike individual as well.
.........

CuntajusRationality wrote:

Steersman wrote:But that said, he [HJ Hornbeck] seems to be quite knowledgeable in a number of areas, notably statistics and Bayes Theorem.

Steersman, dear god, what the fuck are you talking about? HJ Hornbeck "quite knowledgeable"? Are you kidding?

As someone else just mentioned, he seems to have just barely enough knowledge to practice his very own cargo-cult version of statistical analysis.

Have you seen the truly awful and embarrassing "Evidence-based Feminism" videos (1, 2) for example? Or the time he laughingly tried to use statistical inference to calculate the odds of Smith falsifying her allegation against Shermer as being 0.4% or less - during which he misapplied and seemed unable to even comprehend some pretty basic principles?

Za-zen wrote:The objectively best game in the fucking world. Where i was born at they literally have a stick and ball in your hand before you can walk, so you learn the basics. I remember two Cork lads who were "visiting on business" teaching me as a knee high to a frog ruffian how to lift the ball like a cork man (properly in their regard) instead of how we Ulster Yahoos did it.

[youtube]TmzivRetelE[/youtube]

Parody Accountant wrote:

feathers wrote:

jugheadnaut wrote:Holy crap, it's annoying. I think it's a big reason why that even at a Grand Slam tournament, early round matches by top women players are sparsely attended. Here are scenes from a match a few years ago between probably the worst offender, Michelle Larcher de Brito and close contender Maria Sharapova.

[youtube]bi8R9JbF2cc[/youtube]

Can't the referee issue a classical Quiet, please - but now directed to the players rather than the public? I don't watch tennis but this seems way out of line.

That shit was so fucking annoying. Hilarious. But holy shit. I can't imagine advertising anything during this. And the whole tourney is like this? FFS just don't mic them so loud.

Do we need to hear the background noise of shoes squeaking in basketball? Maybe. Do we need it at FULL BLAST?! No.

The only sport I could see them getting mileage out of this would be boxing/mma (either gender). If you're going to make war noises, might as well look like it too.

KiwiInOz wrote:

Za-zen wrote:The objectively best game in the fucking world. Where i was born at they literally have a stick and ball in your hand before you can walk, so you learn the basics. I remember two Cork lads who were "visiting on business" teaching me as a knee high to a frog ruffian how to lift the ball like a cork man (properly in their regard) instead of how we Ulster Yahoos did it.

[youtube]TmzivRetelE[/youtube]

So it's a cross between hockey, gaelic football (Aussie Rules), and egg-and-spoon racing.

CuntajusRationality wrote:[youtube]4JY9kjM1tRg[/youtube]

Steersman wrote:

free thoughtpolice wrote:To be charitable to PZ, he had a point when he said:

FUCK OFF STEERSMAN

Politics makes for strange bedfellows, doesn't it? Although I think you might try analyzing each case on its merits instead of, in effect or apparently, allowing your peevishness to dictate your responses.

Service Dog wrote:
Flo-Jo, the 'fastest woman on Earth' was as fast as the fastest high school boy... in the state of Florida... the day she set her world record.

So... should he have gotten a raise to equal all her endorsements, that year?

The great irony of feminism is that it does not survive its own critiques.

Lsuoma wrote:

acathode wrote:but then again, the women there look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/gSRA2nS.jpg?1

Well, bugger my rags! That looks like CH2O if he'd done all his challenge wanks in one afternoon. Every day for a couple of years!

KiwiInOz wrote:

CuntajusRationality wrote:[.youtube]4JY9kjM1tRg[/youtube]

I assume that the grunting/shrieking is like the kiai in some martial arts. It signifies an attacking move and is supposed to put the opponent off/focus the energy of the move. But in reality it means that you are a one-shot act. The time/focus used for a kiai should be spent flowing into the second and third attacking moves.

Za-zen wrote:hehehe had this pop up in my youtube feed. No matter what you think of Galloway, he is a fantastic orator, and his mind is as sharp as a knife, loved how he gutted the morons of the US senate, he made their panel look like a club of mental deficients. It reminded me also that the wizard of oz song "ding dong the witch is dead" raced to the top of the charts, and all the media did there best to ignore it, if not actually refuse to play it! Establishment twats, I think they were expecting another bout of collective morony and faux sentimentality, like when that muppet diana croked it. Funny as fuck watching crowds of lemmings in group tears.

I fucking love Galloway, he's the only guy I have ever seen debate Hitchens and hand him his ass.

[.youtube]nKp-3jWABL8[/youtube]

Za-zen wrote:hehehe had this pop up in my youtube feed. No matter what you think of Galloway, he is a fantastic orator, and his mind is as sharp as a knife, loved how he gutted the morons of the US senate, he made their panel look like a club of mental deficients. It reminded me also that the wizard of oz song "ding dong the witch is dead" raced to the top of the charts, and all the media did there best to ignore it, if not actually refuse to play it! Establishment twats, I think they were expecting another bout of collective morony and faux sentimentality, like when that muppet diana croked it. Funny as fuck watching crowds of lemmings in group tears.

I fucking love Galloway, he's the only guy I have ever seen debate Hitchens and hand him his ass.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: I'm not a left-handed devil, thank you!

http://i.imgur.com/ZqAmsvo.jpg

Gefan wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: I'm not a left-handed devil, thank you!

http://i.imgur.com/ZqAmsvo.jpg

I remember first seeing that and being struck by how the already established physical layout of the scene forced them to make Quagmire left-handed in order for the gag to work.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Gefan wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: I'm not a left-handed devil, thank you!

http://i.imgur.com/ZqAmsvo.jpg

I remember first seeing that and being struck by how the already established physical layout of the scene forced them to make Quagmire left-handed in order for the gag to work.

Fucking ponce.

Za-zen wrote:hehehe had this pop up in my youtube feed. No matter what you think of Galloway, he is a fantastic orator, and his mind is as sharp as a knife

Shatterface as Guest wrote:

Za-zen wrote:hehehe had this pop up in my youtube feed. No matter what you think of Galloway, he is a fantastic orator, and his mind is as sharp as a knife, loved how he gutted the morons of the US senate, he made their panel look like a club of mental deficients. It reminded me also that the wizard of oz song "ding dong the witch is dead" raced to the top of the charts, and all the media did there best to ignore it, if not actually refuse to play it! Establishment twats, I think they were expecting another bout of collective morony and faux sentimentality, like when that muppet diana croked it. Funny as fuck watching crowds of lemmings in group tears.

I fucking love Galloway, he's the only guy I have ever seen debate Hitchens and hand him his ass.

Even by the standards of British politicians Galloway is an evil cunt.

Shatterface

(BTW ... it is probably little known that here in Canukistan, from what I gather it would appear that Immigration Canada appears to frown on white Britons trying to immigrate here. Been so for at least 30 years)

Strawberry Bitch wrote:elyseanders[dot]com /blog/2015/7/8/the-war-on-speech

Trolling is an assault on women. It is an organized weapon of terrorism used to silence feminist voices. The abuse is a mob attack, flooding our inboxes and comments Twitter mentions and Facebook pages, so that there is nowhere we can go online without seeing how little the world thinks of us. How little the world wants us to exist. It is an act of terrorism designed to force us into facing that, more of that, escalating levels of that… or being silent. It is an act of war against feminism. And if you do not relent, they will not only come after you, but your family, your friends, your job. Their goal is not only to drive you into silence, but to wipe your presence from the earth.

Za-zen wrote:hehehe had this pop up in my youtube feed. No matter what you think of Galloway, he is a fantastic orator, and his mind is as sharp as a knife, loved how he gutted the morons of the US senate, he made their panel look like a club of mental deficients. It reminded me also that the wizard of oz song "ding dong the witch is dead" raced to the top of the charts, and all the media did there best to ignore it, if not actually refuse to play it! Establishment twats, I think they were expecting another bout of collective morony and faux sentimentality, like when that muppet diana croked it. Funny as fuck watching crowds of lemmings in group tears.

I fucking love Galloway, he's the only guy I have ever seen debate Hitchens and hand him his ass.

[youtube]nKp-3jWABL8[/youtube]

Gefan wrote:Went to Urban Dictionary.
Either I've just been called a fag (flattered but I'm not good-looking enough) or (I think) a poseur.
As the self-admitted dumbest, least educated Pitter of the lot, the second one seems a bit harsh.

Still, *hugs*.

Parody Accountant wrote:

Strawberry Bitch wrote:elyseanders[dot]com /blog/2015/7/8/the-war-on-speech

Trolling is an assault on women. It is an organized weapon of terrorism used to silence feminist voices. The abuse is a mob attack, flooding our inboxes and comments Twitter mentions and Facebook pages, so that there is nowhere we can go online without seeing how little the world thinks of us. How little the world wants us to exist. It is an act of terrorism designed to force us into facing that, more of that, escalating levels of that… or being silent. It is an act of war against feminism. And if you do not relent, they will not only come after you, but your family, your friends, your job. Their goal is not only to drive you into silence, but to wipe your presence from the earth.

Is strawberry bitch a frequent guest poster?