Really? wrote:Doesn't The Orbit seem like an odd name? Aren't orbits inherently unequal and different? I suppose two planets could be in the same orbit for a very short time, but won't they always fall out of sync due to differences in mass and such? Same thing with electrons. There are shells of differing diameters. Some are closer to the nucleus than others. There is an inherent hierarchy. The valence electrons will get more play than the others.
Maybe they didn't think about it much. Perhaps one of the pit shop masters would be kind enough to design a logo for their use.
For objects whose mass is much smaller than the mass of the body they orbit, the properties of their orbit do not depend on their mass, but only on the mass of the body they orbit.
That's why it's possible, for instance, to place a 1kg satellite and a 1000 kg satellite in an identical orbit around the Earth.
Michael J wrote:
I'd noticed that none have come to PZ's defence on the Hitchen's thing. When it was Nugent there were a tonne of posts from these guys. I think he is feeling pretty isolated at the moment
The Benson schism really broke his support from fellow bloggers. PZ made perhaps the least strategic move one could imagine by waiting until it was far too late, then backing the loser and shitting on his blogmates.
Then he insults Thibeault and Gabriel's tiny blog ouput and lack of site revenue compared to Benson, and what a dumb fucking move that was, because I guarantee more bloggers than just those two took offense to that. Now they know that PZ sees them more as numbers than people, and not only is he prepared to sell them out, but he's dumb enough that he probably won't even get a good deal on it.
Basically, if Peez were Judas he would have sold out Jesus for 12 pieces of copper, 8 of which were actually chocolate.
PZ is convinced he is the ultra-left John Galt. He doesn't need anyone, they all need him. He'll keep screaming that even past the time when he's the only one who can hear it anymore.
Really? wrote:Doesn't The Orbit seem like an odd name? Aren't orbits inherently unequal and different? I suppose two planets could be in the same orbit for a very short time, but won't they always fall out of sync due to differences in mass and such? Same thing with electrons. There are shells of differing diameters. Some are closer to the nucleus than others. There is an inherent hierarchy. The valence electrons will get more play than the others.
Maybe they didn't think about it much. Perhaps one of the pit shop masters would be kind enough to design a logo for their use.
For objects whose mass is much smaller than the mass of the body they orbit, the properties of their orbit do not depend on their mass, but only on the mass of the body they orbit.
That's why it's possible, for instance, to place a 1kg satellite and a 1000 kg satellite in an identical orbit around the Earth.
I noticed they're not in alphabetical order like the FTB blogroll, and they missed the opportunity to turn the bloglist into a fun acronym like BAGELHAG.
Makes sense Lousy Canuck is the most computer literate of the group and so would pit himself first and you have to be brave not to put Svan at least second
The real question is how many of them pivot away from PZ.
Tigzy wrote:Ummmm...did anyone think to archive anything from The Orbit, just in case any of the listed bloggers come back with a 'I know nothing about this'?
I took a screencap of the homepage from google cache; unfortunately, wayback machine won't archive it.
VickyCaramel wrote:
Actually, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. She made a blog post about porn and stuff, he got into a discussion about it.
That may be the case, but I think his Bayesian reasoning failed him a bit there in assuming that his highly sex-negative and 'ew men ew!' network coblogger of so many years would take kindly to having her comments assailed by one of those 'ew mens!' filling up her comments section with his proclivities as regards that dirty sex thing.
the tl;dr version: Carrier once again saw a chance to make it about him, and he took it...and was quite surprised that it was off-putting to people who didn't want his habits to be the center of the discussion.
I understand, but opportunity is often ephemeral. Tney have been exposed, they have lost their wow factor and they may very well be slapped about with their plan cruelled.
Michael J wrote:I notice that the whois details are hidden. Is that normal in the US. I rarely see it when I do lookups in Australia
It's something you can do for a small fee. Lots of people don't want they names and address out there for people to see.
There's also a slow movement to make that the default, especially since places with remarkably dumb customer support, like Amazon, can be phished via whois details.
HunnyBunny wrote:And looking further at the site-specific CSS file for the front page, it starts with this comment:
/*
Theme Name: The Orbit
Theme URI: http://the-orbit.net/
Description: Minnow Child Theme Author: Jason Thibeault
Author URI: http://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/
Template: minnow
Version: 1.0.1
License: GNU General Public License v2 or later
License URI: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html
Tags: light, dark, two-columns, right-sidebar, responsive-layout, accessibility-ready
Text Domain: the-orbit-minnow-child
*/
The key bit:
Author: Jason Thibeault
Again, this sort of documentation is too detailed, not something a hoaxer would get into in my mind.
Hmm. Probably not a hoax then. I did notice that the archives over on the-orbit.net go back quite a way (I was able to pull up Zvan posts from 2012 and the archives went further back then that) which isn't a point in favor of it being a hoax or clone.
To be fair, it could still be a hoax. Typing "Jason Thibeault" is not exactly rocket science. The data is somewhat inconclusive as of yet. The whois records are hardly a smoking gun:
Michael J wrote:I notice that the whois details are hidden. Is that normal in the US. I rarely see it when I do lookups in Australia
It's something you can do for a small fee. Lots of people don't want they names and address out there for people to see.
There's also a slow movement to make that the default, especially since places with remarkably dumb customer support, like Amazon, can be phished via whois details.
Yeah when I had a website I masked my information. And this is coming from a guy who share almost everything online.
comhcinc wrote:
It's something you can do for a small fee. Lots of people don't want they names and address out there for people to see.
There's also a slow movement to make that the default, especially since places with remarkably dumb customer support, like Amazon, can be phished via whois details.
Yeah when I had a website I masked my information. And this is coming from a guy who share almost everything online.
For a bit in how bad humans can render all your complex security useless:
Now, I kind of giggle at $600 a month being a "heavy" AWS user, but he makes some good points, and the first response, if true, show just how badly Amazon support is trained.
welch wrote:The probability is fairly good that it's not a hoax, but the probability it is a hoax is not zero by a good margin as of yet.
If it is a hoax, then the hoaxer was clever enough to blank out the website right after the Pit started linking to it. Whoever built this site is fully tuned into the rifts, whichever side they might fall on.
Brive1987 wrote:Whoever is looking after the orbit picked up on the interest pretty quickly for a work in progress site.
There's a setting at the back end of WordPress sites to specifically request that search engines exclude indexing the site which clearly wasn't enabled if it was found via Google search.
Shatterface wrote:Only French sf I'm familiar with are Planet of the Apes and Vercor's Borderline. What is it with you guys and monkeys? And Robert Merle's The Day of the Dolphin.
I read the Dutch translation of the latter (Dolfijnen zijn betere mensen). IIRC he uses some weird experimental narrative style that makes it a drag to read. I didn't finish.
SM12 wrote:What is the recommended daily adult dose of Schadenfreude?
Because after seeing http://the-orbit.net I may need hospital attention for severe euphoria.
If your erection lasts over 4 hours, seek medical attention out alllll the whores.
Fixed that for you.
Katamari is a faggot FYI. What, do you get off on offending queers by just assuming all men would want whores and not rich old men/hardbodied gym fags/hairy fat dudes/children?
Founded in 1964 by Lyndon B. Johnson, the White House Fellows program is one of America's most prestigious programs for leadership and public service. White House Fellowships offer exceptional young men and women first-hand experience working at the highest levels of the federal government.
I know I saw that. She is of course a speaker and consultant on diversity. I am not saying she doesn't believe what she preaches but it's surprising to me just how people just buy in to the people who are so biased because they are making a profit off of it.
She's also a 'coder' who seems to write surprisingly little code. There seem to be a lot of these in SJW circles.
I really hope she has some Filipino in her, or else this post (with non-normal formatting of the drink's name) has got to be cultural appropriation in addition to privilege boasting:
comhcinc wrote:More code of coduct issue. A person I follow on twitter retweeted this. It's really remarkable how these people think.
I don't think they realize how unpopular they are, or conversely how outnumbered they are by the "assholes" (as the term is defined by people with a host of cluster b personality disorders). That's why they can't comprehend how much they actually do need consensus. Lasting change is possible if you can convince the majority of the crowd of the merits of your position. Try to brute force it, and you wind up with schisms. And look at how those schisms play out. Compare the popularity, intellectual output, and creative output of a place like the pit to a place like the atheism plus forums, or the GamerGate hubs to their counterparts.
welch wrote:The probability is fairly good that it's not a hoax, but the probability it is a hoax is not zero by a good margin as of yet.
If it is a hoax, then the hoaxer was clever enough to blank out the website right after the Pit started linking to it. Whoever built this site is fully tuned into the rifts, whichever side they might fall on.
Like I said, the probability it's not is pretty high, but it's not beyond the realm of reality that it is.
katamari Damassi wrote:
If your erection lasts over 4 hours, seek medical attention out alllll the whores.
Fixed that for you.
Katamari is a faggot FYI. What, do you get off on offending queers by just assuming all men would want whores and not rich old men/hardbodied gym fags/hairy fat dudes/children?
jet_lagg wrote:
I don't think they realize how unpopular they are, or conversely how outnumbered they are by the "assholes" (as the term is defined by people with a host of cluster b personality disorders). That's why they can't comprehend how much they actually do need consensus. Lasting change is possible if you can convince the majority of the crowd of the merits of your position. Try to brute force it, and you wind up with schisms. And look at how those schisms play out. Compare the popularity, intellectual output, and creative output of a place like the pit to a place like the atheism plus forums, or the GamerGate hubs to their counterparts.
Yes also no matter how well off a person is they think it's okay to call themselves marginalized. Even if they truly feel that way they are not smart enough to keep it to themselves.
I wish I was able to be half as sure of myself as these people can be.
Michael J wrote:They've taken it down. There is just a message:
You're early.
I get it. You're curious. We're all very curious. But there's nothing to see here. At least not yet.
Given thimbledick's mad skillz, it was probably intended to be private yet.
Fits with my theory - that the site was never intended to be live until it was ready to allow for a public exit from FTB. Maybe LC wanted to show progress to the group, set it to live and forgot to reset it after.
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Given thimbledick's mad skillz, it was probably intended to be private yet.
Fits with my theory - that the site was never intended to be live until it was ready to allow for a public exit from FTB. Maybe LC wanted to show progress to the group, set it to live and forgot to reset it after.
Well, thimbledick is a tard. I have a Wordpress blog I parked on private setting. It's a piece of cake.
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Given thimbledick's mad skillz, it was probably intended to be private yet.
Fits with my theory - that the site was never intended to be live until it was ready to allow for a public exit from FTB. Maybe LC wanted to show progress to the group, set it to live and forgot to reset it after.
Well, thimbledick is a tard. I have a Wordpress blog I parked on private setting. It's a piece of cake.
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Given thimbledick's mad skillz, it was probably intended to be private yet.
Fits with my theory - that the site was never intended to be live until it was ready to allow for a public exit from FTB. Maybe LC wanted to show progress to the group, set it to live and forgot to reset it after.
Yes they might have been paranoid that PZ would tell them to fuck off and dump their blogs before they could grab a backup or the new platform is ready. Also if they were to be ad supported, they would need to hold the account in some financial structure rather than trust it to one of the bloggers.
welch wrote:The probability is fairly good that it's not a hoax, but the probability it is a hoax is not zero by a good margin as of yet.
If it is a hoax, then the hoaxer was clever enough to blank out the website right after the Pit started linking to it. Whoever built this site is fully tuned into the rifts, whichever side they might fall on.
Michael J wrote:I notice that the whois details are hidden. Is that normal in the US. I rarely see it when I do lookups in Australia
Yep. Check whois for t'Pit.
I just checked the company I resell and they offer it for $5 per year. I think that this is fairly recent addition. A real pain as I get a lot of calls from people who want their website changed and have no idea where it's hosted or who registered the domain.
welch wrote:The probability is fairly good that it's not a hoax, but the probability it is a hoax is not zero by a good margin as of yet.
If it is a hoax, then the hoaxer was clever enough to blank out the website right after the Pit started linking to it. Whoever built this site is fully tuned into the rifts, whichever side they might fall on.
Good catch.
Not really, Blue Ball Skeptics tweeted it to LousyCanuk, Benson and Svan - So one of those could have been listening and there were a few comments made on blogs. So if it is them then they would have seen it. On the other hand if it was a troll, they would most likely be following one of us or on this forum.
free thoughtpolice wrote:I want to start a GoFund Me for the inevitably homeless FTB bloggers!
Are you with me gang? :dance: :dance:
What about a GoFundMe dedicated to purchasing each of the mutineers a copy of some high school level critical thinking textbook. These dipshits have had countless advantages to succeed because they're Canadian
because they're women
because they're cunts who will bitch and moan if you don't give them what they want
because they're bootlicking male feminists who are willing to be urinal slaves
but they fucked it all up and all most of them could get were spots in FTBCon.
Had they fought along traditional lines? Things would probably have been different.
I must also say that I find the wider community we tried to build at Freethoughtblogs is less a unified group than a disparate collection of loosely affiliated blogs that have found a convenient hosting service, which doesn’t help my mood much, either. We are all objects in space, drifting, occasionally bouncing off each other or tugging gently at each other’s masses.
PZ july 28. 2015. I think this is the inspiration for the name "Orbit".
I must also say that I find the wider community we tried to build at Freethoughtblogs is less a unified group than a disparate collection of loosely affiliated blogs that have found a convenient hosting service, which doesn’t help my mood much, either. We are all objects in space, drifting, occasionally bouncing off each other or tugging gently at each other’s masses.
PZ july 28. 2015. I think this is the inspiration for the name "Orbit".
I must also say that I find the wider community we tried to build at Freethoughtblogs is less a unified group than a disparate collection of loosely affiliated blogs that have found a convenient hosting service, which doesn’t help my mood much, either. We are all objects in space, drifting, occasionally bouncing off each other or tugging gently at each other’s masses.
PZ july 28. 2015. I think this is the inspiration for the name "Orbit".
Peez would sell his wife for a bit of gentle tugging. ( ESP. If the tugger was wearing a blue or red fright wig.)
I must also say that I find the wider community we tried to build at Freethoughtblogs is less a unified group than a disparate collection of loosely affiliated blogs that have found a convenient hosting service, which doesn’t help my mood much, either. We are all objects in space, drifting, occasionally bouncing off each other or tugging gently at each other’s masses.
PZ july 28. 2015. I think this is the inspiration for the name "Orbit".
Peez is whingeing about Jeremy Clarkson being an asshole ,not realizing that Clarksons whole shtick is being an asshole. A love able asshole at times, but still an asshole.
