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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Really? wrote: I was not aware that credible science was being done on Surveymonkey.

Do sane people really think that heterosexual teenage boys are sick of looking at women or thinking about their sexuality?

Have ANY of these feminist researchers ever met any straight males?
I don't think that's the problem so much as a general male terror of being honest with women and thus losing female approval (read: sexual access).
When men just say "fuck it" and be themselves an awful lot of problems would go away, but I'd advise against holding your breath on that one.

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Can't link but fuck, The Guardian's latest brainfart ''Google doodles aren’t just naff – they’re trying to rebrand the past'' beats theit Racist BBQ article for stupidity.

[quote}It’s not just that the doodle, the corporate-branding equivalent of dress-down Friday, has that naff novelty air about it: all those cute animated Thanksgiving turkeys, faux silent films and puzzle-piece Nietzsches. Or even that, presumably driven in part by Google employees’ hobby horses (“How about Giambattista Tiepolo’s 318th birthday?”), they feel like textbook “wackaging”; the ingratiating, infantilising tone that has been smeared all over marketing for the past decade. It’s that behind the fun is something more pernicious: by weaving historic and cultural milestones into its logo, Google is trying to retroactively brand the whole of human progress – perhaps the very notion of progress – as its own.[/quote]

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Couch wrote: Does anyone think this reads a bit odd?

Only a couple of weeks ago author was ecstatic at being labelled a SJW, now sees through the entire disaster... Not saying it can't happen, just rings a bit hollow...there seems to have been some Damascian comversion (is that a word?) but doesn't actually say so.
Damascene.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27287402

This is hurting my head.
Checking your privilege doesn't mean anyone is asking you to say "I only have things because I am part of privileged groups". It does mean someone is asking you to say "By position of a characteristic I was born with, I have been helped, or at least not hurt, more than others without this characteristic". It does not mean anyone wants you to apologize for it; it does mean someone is asking for an acknowledgement of the implications of it, either for how it is impacted where you are now, how it might be skewing your perspective or level of knowledge in discussing a subject, or for how the lack of that same privilege may have made things different for someone else.

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Oh, and also this gem:
"courageously struck out against the oppressive climate of basic cultural awareness and bare minimum human decency that has despoiled college campuses everywhere".
SJW's once again peddling the great lie that they're just nice cuddly people wanting everyone to be nice to one another, and definitely not hounding people out of jobs, organising witch-hunts, and obsessively policing people's language and choices.

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Sulman wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27287402

This is hurting my head.
Checking your privilege doesn't mean anyone is asking you to say "I only have things because I am part of privileged groups". It does mean someone is asking you to say "By position of a characteristic I was born with, I have been helped, or at least not hurt, more than others without this characteristic". It does not mean anyone wants you to apologize for it; it does mean someone is asking for an acknowledgement of the implications of it, either for how it is impacted where you are now, how it might be skewing your perspective or level of knowledge in discussing a subject, or for how the lack of that same privilege may have made things different for someone else.
'Weltanschauung means "worldview". I had to look it up. But then, I didn't go to Princeton'

I didn't go to Princeton either. It must be great to go to a university like that where you never have to look anything up ever again in your whole life.

But I am one of those under-privileged people who don't know the meaning of every obscure word I read online. Why should people get better jobs than me just because they have far superior education and intelligence?

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Aneris wrote: Indeed, hence Andrew here saying that MRAs (I understand he assigns them himself to that camp, correct me if wrong) that MRAs are essentially social justice warriors, too. They just work opposite to that of 'classic SJWs' but are structurally similar, which should be unsurprising since they are identitarian social justice advocates of another stripe.
Citing AndrewV69 as representative of MRAs is like saying "Atheists observe Ramadan."

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comhcinc wrote:So hey I got mes a job.
conga rats!

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KenD wrote: I've seen that 47%/61% statistic highlighted in a number of articles as showing a general rejection of sexual imagery/objectification in games, when it actually looks like it came from a single leading question about bikini clad fighters in Mortal Kombat. You can think that the way they're dressed doesn't fit that particular game, and that the fighters should have "dignity" (OMG the slut shaming!), without necessarily having a problem with prostitutes and strippers in GTA, or the countless other things that SJWs find "problematic".
I used to work in market research & political polling, and I could craft a survey question that'd get 61% of anyone to agree with anything.

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rayshul wrote: SJW fannishness of Harley always weirds me out. She's infantilised, she's a beaten girlfriend who keeps going back to a guy (who she also stalks) and she's fucking pathetic. WHY does every SJW see her as teh bestest character evar.
You may have answered your own question there.

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wow. ninja'd by my own lazy scroll finger.

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Skep tickle wrote:Hit submit too soon. That last paragraph is also a quote from Kristol's piece.

It's dated in parts, and his POV was that of a "neoconservative" commenting on "countercultural movements" that some of us might have...or may have...joined enthusiastically :)
Uh oh, Skep tickle -- citing the NY Post, quoting Kristol, admitting you find yourself more & more agreeing with conservatives ...

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feathers wrote:If you're white and your name is Brown, is that (a) cultural appropriation, or (b) otherkin-ism?
Ever more confused.
c) your ancestors were POC and your whiteness is socially constructed

The same way that historical names like "Halfdan the Black" prove that Vikings were actually Africans:



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bhoytony wrote:
Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Hey, nice avatar. Love the guy, but I do feel I am owed a refund after going to see two of his farewell gigs. What a con man.
A face only a mother could love. Rather poor form not to die after all that hype. Maybe I'll get to see him on his "Can't get rid of the Bastard" tour.

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Couch wrote: Does anyone think this reads a bit odd?

Only a couple of weeks ago author was ecstatic at being labelled a SJW, now sees through the entire disaster... Not saying it can't happen, just rings a bit hollow...there seems to have been some Damascian comversion (is that a word?) but doesn't actually say so.
The bar to being a SJW is low... what's required? An internet connection?

The bar to attending Columbia is high. A new student arrives there & is surrounded by smart, established people who speak with knowledgable ease about obscure post-modernist authors & politically-correct theories.

It makes perfect sense that the author would spend a couple years absorbing all the Columbia SJWs have to offer, before feeling equipped to criticize prevailing opinions with enough expertise to be taken seriously. Also, it might take a student a couple years to feel established-enough at Columbia to distinguish that dissenting against SJW fads doesn't-mean the student doesn't belong there.

(I spent a couple years there.)

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Aneris wrote: <snip>
I wasn't aware that she quit for good after the CPAC appearance, but it seems like she did indeed. Was there ever an official note somewhere, or did she just quietly dropped the matter and moved on, as it looks like?

Comhcinc: great to hear, good luck with your new Uranium polishing job. Is this in Iran?
I think she just left without kicking too much of a fuss. The Horde said some incredibly stupid stuff about her, and after writing a post titled "CPAC was awesome!" (archive link) she left for good.

She wrote stuff like this:
Jamila Bey wrote:I’m a conservative on issues of economics, immigration, and a few others. I’m socially liberal and I often agree with voices who exist on either/both sides of the political spectrum. The problem in this modern era is that folks define themselves based on one label or another, and often refuse to hear anything outside of their own viewpoint. That ain’t me. While I’m also not a senator’s son, I become restless and bored in echo chambers. I am a Freethinker. I am free to think. And I do this a great deal.
Way too much freedom of thought for FreeThoughtBlogs!

It's interesting to note that some of the Horde behaved better than I expected and actually defended Bey:
Tabby Lavalamp wrote:There is likely a lot I’d disagree with you about, I’m pretty much a socialist, and I think Republicans (as they currently stand) controlling the United States isn’t just bad for your country but for my country and the rest of the world. However, I was shocked by some of the reaction you received. You didn’t suddenly turn into Rush Limbaugh or anything like that.

We were told that one of the points of this blog network was to provide a more diverse range of voices. If one of those voices is a little or even somewhat more diverse than the others, that’s a good thing. I’ll likely disagree with you about economics, immigration, or the value of a Republican government, but I know I’ll agree with you about plenty as well (I’ve been a Twitter follower for a while now (please ignore that I just accidentally unfollowed and refollowed, I was just bringing up your feed and clicked the wrong button).

Anyway, my point – diversity in voices on this blog network is a good thing
Give credit where credit's due. Even Tibo tried to stop the cannibal feeding frenzy:
Jason Thibeault wrote:I don’t agree with almost anything about Republicans in their present iteration, or conservatism in general (trying to keep the status quo when the status quo is objectively harmful is, itself, objectively harmful, and pining for the way things never used to be is rather delusional), but I will say that once upon a time the Republicans used to be “the loyal opposition”.

If every Republican was like you, Jamila, we wouldn’t be in the dire straits we’re in now. But they aren’t. I can only hope that you can effect some change from within while we push back against their theocratic goals from the outside.
Of course St. Nick Gotts was the first in line to ask they burn the witch of the week:
Nick Gotts wrote: I find it odd that people care what is my personal political bent. I find it absolutely bizarre that you find it odd that people care what your politics are. I’m a conservative on issues of economics, immigration, and a few others. Translation: I don’t give a damn about poor people.

People claim to feel some betrayal that I identified myself as a part of a growing Republican family. (I can’t help the family I was born to, and I happen to love my GOP relations!) Utterly disingenuous: we know, and you know we know, that when you talked about the “conservative family” you were not talking about your relatives. Look up, if you might, the legacy of the recently deceased Senator Edward Brooke. Of a piece with the flagrant dishonesty in your speech. You know very well that today’s Republican Party is completely different to that of 1966 – when Brooke was elected – let alone that of 1863. And that CPAC is the hard right of the party, willing to take sponsorship from overt white supremacists while excluding gays.

But make no mistake, if or not AA had a booth at CPAC, there were plenty of atheists at the event already! So? Atheist bigots and corporate shills are my enemies just as much as Christian bigots and corporate shills.
An heretic-sympathizer persevered in their errors:
yazikus wrote:If every Republican was like you, Jamila, we wouldn’t be in the dire straits we’re in now. But they aren’t. I can only hope that you can effect some change from within while we push back against their theocratic goals from the outside.
Yup, to this. Jamila, I applaud your good faith in people and the work you do to promote change.
But the reaction from the Political Commissars was strong. Comrade Thibeault was asked to step back in line:
John Horstman wrote:@Jason #3: Did you read this bit?
I’m a conservative on issues of economics, immigration, and a few others.

Emphasis mine. As bad as all of the various social-identity-category marginalizations that Republicans near-unanimously back are, far and away the worst thing about the Right wing is its “I got mine, screw you” economic policies. Were so many of those social marginalizations not intertwined deeply with poverty – for the specific reason that economic opportunity in a market system is directly proportional to one’s degree of privilege – they would still be bad, but not nearly as harmful as they are. If every Republican was like Jamila, every Republican would also be like the (pro-gay-rights, pro-abortion-access, probably-atheist) Koch brothers – people who delight in exploiting the poor and vulnerable, but who aren’t especially bigoted. Gross. We’d still be in dire straights; the corruption of our democracy and extreme wealth (and thus opportunity) disparities are almost solely a function of Right-wing economic policy, which is utterly indefensible.
St. Nick Gotts proceeded to excommunicate Jamila Bey:
Nick Gotts wrote:CPAC is the extremist wing of a party that considers the President illegitimate because he is black. The party where no serious contender for high office can admit to accepting the science of evolutionary biology, or of anthropogenic climate change. The party that has taken active steps, in the states where it has power to do so, to prevent black people and poor people from voting. The party that that has taken active steps, in the states where it has power to do so, to prevent women exercising their right to bodily autonomy. Whose convention are AA sending you to next, Ms. Bey? The Ku Klux Klan? The League of the South? The Constitution Party? The American Nazi Party?
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Tibo grew a bit of a spine and stood up for Jamila Bey (probably because she was the first WOC American Atheist they had on FTB). He said that he was only trying to redeem a sinner who wasn't irredeemable:
Jason Thibeault wrote:Yes, John @6, I read it, and I stand by what I said. If most Republicans were like Jamila, we could discuss the ways that their economic stance hurts society generally and impact privilege specifically, and we would have a reasonable debate on all the things we think they’re getting wrong. As it stands, the Republicans you’re talking about are intractable, self-serving assbags. Jamila is not that. That is what I’m saying.
Nate Hevens quickly corrected Tibo's misguided mercy:
NateHevens wrote:Yes, John @6, I read it, and I stand by what I said. If most Republicans were like Jamila, we could discuss the ways that their economic stance hurts society generally and impact privilege specifically, and we would have a reasonable debate on all the things we think they’re getting wrong. As it stands, the Republicans you’re talking about are intractable, self-serving assbags. Jamila is not that. That is what I’m saying.

emphasis mine
They’re called “Democrats”.
Trav Mamone offered one last chance to Jamila, too:
Trav Mamone wrote:I appreciate AA’s efforts to open their doors to conservative and right-of-center atheists. It’s true; atheism does not equal leftist politics. Penn Jellitte is a Libertarian, George Will is an agnostic, Charles Krauthammer is a secular Jew, Nat Henthoff is an anti-abortion Libertarian atheist, etc. And I also thought you gave a great speech.

However, the folks of CPAC tend to be the conservatives that swing so far to the Right that they’re borderline-fascist. And don’t we have enough sexists and transphobes in the atheist community without RWNJs?
But kelly w. sealed the deal. Jamila Bey had to go, and American Atheists with her, too:
kelly w. wrote:Social issues and the economy are completely intertwined. It’s impossible to care about marginalized people and be fiscally conservative. Marginalized people tend to be the most poor….and Republicans absolutely hate poor people (and women, and people of color, and lgbtqi people, and people with disabilities, etc.). They’ve made their bigotry unambiguously clear. They have nothing to offer me–in fact, they’re completely focused on making my life and the lives of millions of others as difficult as possible. I know very little about American Atheists, but I’m quickly getting the impression that it’s an organization full of rich (well, at least not poor), white, straight, cis dudes (with perhaps a sprinkling of women) who like being all “fiscally conservative” and all that THAT entails. Barf.
Jamila Bey never posted anything on FTB anymore.

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About the Author
Nashid Al-Amin is a native New Yorker born and raised in Harlem. A Vietnam-era Army veteran who served three years, Al-Amin was stationed in France and Germany during the mid-1960s and spent time in five other European countries, including a two-week leave in Copenhagen, Denmark. He earned a master’s degree in English and is an adjunct professor at Essex County College in Newark, N.J. Al-Amin has been studying history for more than 40 years and began focusing on the Vikings in 1991.
Trafford Publishing, an Author Solutions, Inc. author services imprint, was the first publisher in the world to offer an “on-demand publishing service,” and has led the independent publishing revolution since its establishment in 1995. Trafford was also one of the earliest publishers to utilize the Internet for selling books. More than 10,000 authors from over 120 countries have utilized Trafford’s experience for self publishing their books. For more information about Trafford Publishing, or to publish your book today, call 1-888-232-4444 or visit trafford.com.


Two-week leave in Copenhagen! County-college adjunct professor! A bio worthy of Richard Carrier! tee-heeeee!

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Shatterface as Guest wrote:Can't link but fuck, The Guardian's latest brainfart ''Google doodles aren’t just naff – they’re trying to rebrand the past'' beats theit Racist BBQ article for stupidity.
It’s not just that the doodle, the corporate-branding equivalent of dress-down Friday, has that naff novelty air about it: all those cute animated Thanksgiving turkeys, faux silent films and puzzle-piece Nietzsches. Or even that, presumably driven in part by Google employees’ hobby horses (“How about Giambattista Tiepolo’s 318th birthday?”), they feel like textbook “wackaging”; the ingratiating, infantilising tone that has been smeared all over marketing for the past decade. It’s that behind the fun is something more pernicious: by weaving historic and cultural milestones into its logo, Google is trying to retroactively brand the whole of human progress – perhaps the very notion of progress – as its own.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Here's a link. The author is Phil Hoad and I really hope he's a Godfrey Elfwick.

More top lel:
Phil Hoad wrote:Google is photobombing history on a grand scale; Photoshopping itself into the edited snapshots of homo sapiens’ march out of monkeydom at a time when, through its Tomorrow’s World laboratory Google X, it’s also laying strong claims to our future.
He can't be serious, can he? He must have written this article as a joke or when he was high as a kite and didn't have enough clickbait material.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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I heard the most common inscription found on Viking coins is 'Allah is Great'

Mainly because they stole culturally appropriated them.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
rayshul wrote: SJW fannishness of Harley always weirds me out. She's infantilised, she's a beaten girlfriend who keeps going back to a guy (who she also stalks) and she's fucking pathetic. WHY does every SJW see her as teh bestest character evar.
You may have answered your own question there.
And who is a big fan?
  1. The good bad girl
  2. We used to be a duo
Zvan, link A wrote:
I’ve been watching the DC comics reboot commentary without much personal stake. It bothers me that the universe is losing Oracle in a redesign touted as promoting diversity, but at a slight remove. I’m not part of the audience for these comics. Watching a bunch of white guys of a certain age decide that they knew how to increase their appeal to everyone else was painful but predictable.

Then, while following a link from Bug Girl, I saw this.
The wonderful thing about Harley’s original design is that it’s inviting, welcoming even. If you saw her on the street, you wouldn’t expect her to suddenly draw out a gun and steal all your money. The general public would be won over with her megawatt grin until her mallet knocked them unconscious. If you put the new Harley in a city, people would start asking if Marilyn Manson was shooting a new music video, pedestrians would avoid her all together and the police would be called. She’s more intimidating and easily more suspicious than the original.
Uh-uh. You don’t mess with my Harley Quinn.

Yes, my Harley Quinn, for two reasons: No comic book character stays static, and Harley’s been part of several reimaginings. At least one has had a very different Harley origin story, which includes a female Joker. A few show us an older, grown up Harley. I’m not talking about those.

More importantly, Harley is mine because she’s a beloved part of my id. You see, Harley is such a pretty little anti-feminist’s nightmare.

No, really. What is Harley before she meets the Joker? We know what kind of practice and injury and self-denial goes into being a gymnast. More work and self-denial puts her in a profession that is all about helping others, thanklessly. And all of it done coming out of a family where the men are allowed to fail but Harley is supposed to remain a “good girl.”

Then comes the Joker. Our little Harley falls in love, exactly as she’s been told good girls do. And there is hell to pay.

Harley adopts Mr. J’s ends as her own–and gets in his way helping him, when she isn’t showing him up. After all, she doesn’t have to be crazy to do what she does. It all makes sense in her world. She idolizes Mr. J, creating a fictionalized, idealized Joker in her own mind that he can never live up to. She maddeningly maintains her cheer when things are going wrong for him. She is so perfectly devoted to him that he has to kill her to get rid of her–or try, at any rate, since she insists on staying alive.

For all her mayhem, Harley remains the quintessential good girl, and I love that this only makes her all the more terrifying and formidable. Harley is the bit of me that looks out from under her eyelashes and says, “Yes, I can be exactly what you want me to be. I can follow those rules and present the front that you require. You’re going to hate it.”

That isn’t this Harley. I don’t know what this Harley is. Maybe she’ll give us something else we need in the place of that chaotic, amoral creature we’re told we should aspire to be. But if we lose our good girl in the process of remaking the bad, then we’ve lost too much.
Zvan, link B wrote:I’ve mentioned before [goes to link A] that I tend to think of Harley Quinn as my id (were ids real things). Thus, this made me very happy.

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["A Harley Quinn version of the song Do You Wanna Build A Snowman from Disney's Frozen"]
An anti-feminist nightmare? I don't even see how anything about this character is feministic, but with postmodernist literary critique everything is possible, it seems. Stephanie Zvan is neither eccentric, nor a “good girl”, nor a playful psychopath. She has as much with Harley Quinn in common as a Yeti with a Belgian waffle.

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Service Dog wrote:

About the Author
Nashid Al-Amin is a native New Yorker born and raised in Harlem. A Vietnam-era Army veteran who served three years, Al-Amin was stationed in France and Germany during the mid-1960s and spent time in five other European countries, including a two-week leave in Copenhagen, Denmark. He earned a master’s degree in English and is an adjunct professor at Essex County College in Newark, N.J. Al-Amin has been studying history for more than 40 years and began focusing on the Vikings in 1991.
Trafford Publishing, an Author Solutions, Inc. author services imprint, was the first publisher in the world to offer an “on-demand publishing service,” and has led the independent publishing revolution since its establishment in 1995. Trafford was also one of the earliest publishers to utilize the Internet for selling books. More than 10,000 authors from over 120 countries have utilized Trafford’s experience for self publishing their books. For more information about Trafford Publishing, or to publish your book today, call 1-888-232-4444 or visit trafford.com.



Two-week leave in Copenhagen! County-college adjunct professor! A bio worthy of Richard Carrier! tee-heeeee!
Black Vikings may not have been completely out of the question. The Varangian Guard served in Byzantium as an elite guard. It could be possible that some people may have traveled back with some vikings after they had served their time in the Guard either as slaves or as children. Now..... There is absolutly no evidence that this ever happened but when did a lack of evidence stop an SJW inserting black people into every piece of history. Cos history can't be correct if if there are no black people or women in it

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We know what kind of practice and injury and self-denial goes into being a gymnast.
Pretty sure you don't.

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Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.

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Aneris wrote:An anti-feminist nightmare? I don't even see how anything about this character is feministic, but with postmodernist literary critique everything is possible, it seems. Stephanie Zvan is neither eccentric, nor a “good girl”, nor a playful psychopath. She has as much with Harley Quinn in common as a Yeti with a Belgian waffle.
Stephanie Zvan probably isn't a former gymnast either.

Anyway, you're right Aneris, Harley Quinn is probably the least feminist female character out there. She's incredibly devoted and dependent on the Joker. She does everything for him out of "love". She sacrificed a very promising career to become a badly battered henchwoman. She's often implied to take care of his "domestic" stuff (mending his socks, doing his laundry etc.) Moreover she's the poster child for domestic abuse: the Joker kicks her in the ass, beats her up, throws her out of windows, even shoots at her on a regular basis, and she's always there for him in the end.

She's a fun character and I like her, but it's very telling that despite her role as a love slave for a man feminists love her. She's the Patriarchy personified to a cartoonish degree and secretly most radfem actually harbor patriarchal and rape fantasies. They secretly enjoy "being sinful" in their mind just like many conservative Christians secretly enjoy fantasies about satanic rituals and depraved sex acts or devoted Communists who enjoyed "capitalist propaganda" like adverts and soap operas.

Repressed people often have a complex love-hate relationship with the things they claim to hate so much.

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Kirbmarc wrote:I think she just left without kicking too much of a fuss. The Horde said some incredibly stupid stuff about her, and after writing a post titled "CPAC was awesome!" (archive link) she left for good.
And no big loss for her. It was shameful watching her colleagues make such a tepid attempt to defend her then just sitting back and letting the piranhas have their way. PZ especially, who has no problem wielding his mod power in service of pettier slights against himself or other FTB friends, but has a spine made of jelly when it comes to his precious hordelets.

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Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
If I ever go back to England I'm never even stepping into a pub, or if I do I'll go there wearing clothes which reek of piss and I'll only talk to guys. I've been kissed by random women who were probably intoxicated. According to these standards I was probably guilty of sexual harassment and assault.

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Couch wrote:
KenD wrote:Obviously that's not much of a sample to draw any conclusions, but considering that transwomen make up under 1% of the population, I really do get the impression that they're over represented in IT, or at least in the more SJW wing of it.
The only person I know IRL who is trans is a programmer.
It's almost as if choosing a career in IT is like being trans-species from human to midwife toad. You join a community that is highly lopsided in favor of males and immediately make a d6 saving throw: on a six, you change sex.

There is also a card in Munchkin that does this.

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Sunder wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:I think she just left without kicking too much of a fuss. The Horde said some incredibly stupid stuff about her, and after writing a post titled "CPAC was awesome!" (archive link) she left for good.
And no big loss for her. It was shameful watching her colleagues make such a tepid attempt to defend her then just sitting back and letting the piranhas have their way. PZ especially, who has no problem wielding his mod power in service of pettier slights against himself or other FTB friends, but has a spine made of jelly when it comes to his precious hordelets.
He didn't do anything, because he condones the behaviour.

There is no greater racist than an ideologue.

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KiwiInOz wrote:Fine, then. That's the last time that I'm going to answer a direct question from grass.
If this was a fifth-grade-or-higher way to tell me not to answer questions that were addressed to someone else, please forgive me for being so enthusiastic about the show. I agree that I was rude.

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Service Dog wrote:The bar to being a SJW is low... what's required? An internet connection?
A miswired internal connection.

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Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
Jake looks suspiciously like the drummer of Arctic Monkeys.

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bhoytony wrote:
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Hey, nice avatar. Love the guy, but I do feel I am owed a refund after going to see two of his farewell gigs. What a con man.
A face only a mother could love. Rather poor form not to die after all that hype. Maybe I'll get to see him on his "Can't get rid of the Bastard" tour.
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Whatever you do, don't do a GIS for "ring avulsion."

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On the bright side, now you have a good excuse for not wearing your wedding ring when you're tomcarriering around town.

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Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
And remember, the law was changed so that a man can be charged with raping his wife.

Quite right too, but try not to get too carried away if the pair of you have a couple of drinks to celebrate your wedding.

You don't want to spend your honeymoon in jail.

So when you toast the bride at the wedding reception, make sure her glass is empty.

Because the law is the law.

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Brive1987 wrote:Nah, last time he didn't react to a "joke" - that there was an honest to god online diagnosis.

Actually it wasn't even a focussed dox - rather it was a back hander for Matt. The method was incidental - though no doubt peripherally orgasmic.

At a certain age I guess you enjoy what quivers you can get.
There never was any goddamn "online diagnosis ". It was an obvious, taste-of-your-own-medicine joke -- and for me at least, an intentionally mean-spirited one, cuz that odious, anti-social, fat sack of lying shit puts me in mean spirits.

PZ Myers, that rape-porn-promoting, rape-joke-making, bestiality-condoning, alleged sexual harasser, got his yellow-in-front-brown-in-back BVDs all in a twist because: 1) the joke indirectly maligned the honor of his damsel-skank, beckybooze, for jesting that she and the other polyamorous, ball-pit-groping, Carrier-jizz-sharing skankchicks might be at higher risk for acquiring STDs, and; 2) Peez the Perv likely does lust after said damsel-skank, fapping his 4" pud with a rubber tentacle while watching her youtubes.

No, Peez didn't come after me because: 1) I'm self-doxxed; 2) I'm self-employed; 3) I'm a dude. Like the sexually repressed dork social misfit rape/rescue/reward fantasizing mangina "male feminist ally" he is, Peez actually despises women; so he picked on the girl. I'm easy enough to find if he wants to have a go, whether on a pier, in a public debate, or in California Small Claims Court. But Peez, while a rabid, foaming, vindictive little shit of a bully behind the safety of his banhammer, is a craven, simpering weasel in person. He'd soil his trousers if he ever came face-to-face with a real live "slymepitter", especially a man. (cf. "the pogsurf encounter".)

I look forward to enjoying from afar his pathetic existence as pariah & laughing stock, and his continued slide into obscurity and irrelevance.

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comhcinc wrote:So hey I got mes a job.
conga rats!

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With regard to books (or movies) (or games) with black vikings, please keep in mind that a huge majority of Americans believe that Amazon warriors lived in South America, so feel free to sell us anything that pops into your head ... just don't cut off one of their boobs because that's icky.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Nah, last time he didn't react to a "joke" - that there was an honest to god online diagnosis.

Actually it wasn't even a focussed dox - rather it was a back hander for Matt. The method was incidental - though no doubt peripherally orgasmic.

At a certain age I guess you enjoy what quivers you can get.
There never was any goddamn "online diagnosis ". It was an obvious, taste-of-your-own-medicine joke -- and for me at least, an intentionally mean-spirited one, cuz that odious, anti-social, fat sack of lying shit puts me in mean spirits.

PZ Myers, that rape-porn-promoting, rape-joke-making, bestiality-condoning, alleged sexual harasser, got his yellow-in-front-brown-in-back BVDs all in a twist because: 1) the joke indirectly maligned the honor of his damsel-skank, beckybooze, for jesting that she and the other polyamorous, ball-pit-groping, Carrier-jizz-sharing skankchicks might be at higher risk for acquiring STDs, and; 2) Peez the Perv likely does lust after said damsel-skank, fapping his 4" pud with a rubber tentacle while watching her youtubes.

No, Peez didn't come after me because: 1) I'm self-doxxed; 2) I'm self-employed; 3) I'm a dude. Like the sexually repressed dork social misfit rape/rescue/reward fantasizing mangina "male feminist ally" he is, Peez actually despises women; so he picked on the girl. I'm easy enough to find if he wants to have a go, whether on a pier, in a public debate, or in California Small Claims Court. But Peez, while a rabid, foaming, vindictive little shit of a bully behind the safety of his banhammer, is a craven, simpering weasel in person. He'd soil his trousers if he ever came face-to-face with a real live "slymepitter", especially a man. (cf. "the pogsurf encounter".)

I look forward to enjoying from afar his pathetic existence as pariah & laughing stock, and his continued slide into obscurity and irrelevance.
Me thinks you have a wee bit of a crush of the fat sack of lard. You can borrow my squid outfit if you like

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
KenD wrote: I've seen that 47%/61% statistic highlighted in a number of articles as showing a general rejection of sexual imagery/objectification in games, when it actually looks like it came from a single leading question about bikini clad fighters in Mortal Kombat. You can think that the way they're dressed doesn't fit that particular game, and that the fighters should have "dignity" (OMG the slut shaming!), without necessarily having a problem with prostitutes and strippers in GTA, or the countless other things that SJWs find "problematic".
I used to work in market research & political polling, and I could craft a survey question that'd get 61% of anyone to agree with anything.
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Kirbmarc wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
If I ever go back to England I'm never even stepping into a pub, or if I do I'll go there wearing clothes which reek of piss and I'll only talk to guys. I've been kissed by random women who were probably intoxicated. According to these standards I was probably guilty of sexual harassment and assault.
Given that the small text in the lower right apparently says "Coastal Carolina University", it seems unlikely to have made it to a doctor's office in the UK. From what I've seen, no one has been able to figure out the actual origin of the poster. It may just be a content submission to a student newsletter. It should be mocked, of course, and does represent the implied beliefs of campus "rape awareness activists" and "rape safety officers". But it probably doesn't have much real world significance. It could even be a Poe.

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Richard Dworkins wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
Jake looks suspiciously like the drummer of Arctic Monkeys.
Is it just me or does Jake look like he is drinking a glass of his own cum, or have I been watching too much porn again

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
If I ever go back to England I'm never even stepping into a pub, or if I do I'll go there wearing clothes which reek of piss and I'll only talk to guys. I've been kissed by random women who were probably intoxicated. According to these standards I was probably guilty of sexual harassment and assault.
Now that's just lazy, refusing to change your ways.

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Shakesville's war on history's greatest monster, Bernie Sanders continues. Trigger warnings for rape and white supremacy.
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/look ... 2.html?m=1

Last I looked there was a respectful dissenting opinion in the comments. Curious if it will last.

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jugheadnaut wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
If I ever go back to England I'm never even stepping into a pub, or if I do I'll go there wearing clothes which reek of piss and I'll only talk to guys. I've been kissed by random women who were probably intoxicated. According to these standards I was probably guilty of sexual harassment and assault.
Given that the small text in the lower right apparently says "Coastal Carolina University", it seems unlikely to have made it to a doctor's office in the UK. From what I've seen, no one has been able to figure out the actual origin of the poster. It may just be a content submission to a student newsletter. It should be mocked, of course, and does represent the implied beliefs of campus "rape awareness activists" and "rape safety officers". But it probably doesn't have much real world significance. It could even be a Poe.
I suspect poe. It hits all the points that would annoy the likes of us. Either the creator is a dip shit or its a poe.

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katamari Damassi wrote:Shakesville's war on history's greatest monster, Bernie Sanders continues. Trigger warnings for rape and white supremacy.
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/look ... 2.html?m=1

Last I looked there was a respectful dissenting opinion in the comments. Curious if it will last.
Comment stands, but the Queen of Hearts warned the dissenter that her comment is a "derail" and further such "derails" will not be permitted.

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jugheadnaut wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
If I ever go back to England I'm never even stepping into a pub, or if I do I'll go there wearing clothes which reek of piss and I'll only talk to guys. I've been kissed by random women who were probably intoxicated. According to these standards I was probably guilty of sexual harassment and assault.
Given that the small text in the lower right apparently says "Coastal Carolina University", it seems unlikely to have made it to a doctor's office in the UK. From what I've seen, no one has been able to figure out the actual origin of the poster. It may just be a content submission to a student newsletter. It should be mocked, of course, and does represent the implied beliefs of campus "rape awareness activists" and "rape safety officers". But it probably doesn't have much real world significance. It could even be a Poe.
I suspected as much. (I thought that the line about clothes reeking of piss was a bit too over the top, but apparently some of you really thought I was concerned).

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Guest wrote:
Harley is fantasy fulfillment because she can (sort of) make it work for her and her actions make her popular in fandom whereas in rl, that shit gets you a ring of clear blue waterr around you socially in about a second. But it's easy to overlook Harley as the perpetual victim that she is (to the whims of the Joker, to the emotional storm inside her the size of something on Jupiter, and icy vacuum of her own lack of identity) when you have some or all of these traits to certain degrees.

That'll be 50 cents, Charlie Brown.
I agree that her popularity within this group is primarily fantasy fulfillment for depressive, frustrated feminists who get a rhetorical beat down when they venture out of their safe spaces. The gleeful chaos that she brings in taking on, and sometimes getting the upper hand over, the square, rational, male enforcer of order is intoxicated to them. I don't think they look much beyond this. Maybe for some it's also a secret fantasy to ally with a powerful male figure who basically shares the same goals, but is a much more ambitious and effective planner and can focus her emotions and keep her in line when necessary.

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Two-week leave in Copenhagen! County-college adjunct professor! A bio worthy of Richard Carrier! tee-heeeee!
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Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
So as a man you have to take a breath test, or better yet a blood sample (which you keep with you until after the statute of limitations? What's the promillage?

If a woman drives drunk, she must surely also be off the hook, or at least get reduced sentence?

Is this something in the law, or something the police cooked up?

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Konrad_Cruze wrote:
Richard Dworkins wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
Jake looks suspiciously like the drummer of Arctic Monkeys.
Is it just me or does Jake look like he is drinking a glass of his own cum, or have I been watching too much porn again
If a female drives a car when she is "drunk", on what grounds does the state prosecute her? Surely by the rational of that health service poster, a female brain should be viewed the same way society views that of the retarded, therefore they shouldn't be permitted to drink alcohol, drive, or anything else that requires a measure of responsibility.

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Feminism doesn't do logic, it's oppressive

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Yeah, most people on the interwebs seem to think it's a hoax. Onion-quality though. It just might make some university leaders think twice before implementing sexist rules.

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Aneris wrote:
An anti-feminist nightmare? I don't even see how anything about this character is feministic, but with postmodernist literary critique everything is possible, it seems. Stephanie Zvan is neither eccentric, nor a “good girl”, nor a playful psychopath. She has as much with Harley Quinn in common as a Yeti with a Belgian waffle.
Well she may not be playful, but she is a psychopath.
Maybe it's a call for help? Is she trying to tell us that her hubby is a vicious criminal that abuses and beats her? She then uses the pent up anger to fuel her revolting behavior?
If so, Steph, it is still no excuse to lash out at innocent people. :naughty:

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SM12 wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Real poster from a doctor's waiting room in South Shields, U.K. Only women can't consent when drunk. Only men commit sex crimes. Equality for all.
And remember, the law was changed so that a man can be charged with raping his wife.

Quite right too, but try not to get too carried away if the pair of you have a couple of drinks to celebrate your wedding.

You don't want to spend your honeymoon in jail.

So when you toast the bride at the wedding reception, make sure her glass is empty.

Because the law is the law.
I hope that one of those nice ladies at the forefront of modern feminism steps up and gets the ball rolling to make it illegal to serve or sell alcohol to women, and also illegal for women to knowingly endanger themselves by wilfully drinking. It puts them in danger and it takes away their adult agency, unlike whatever it does to men. Perhaps Rebecca or someone like that can start the campaign.

Make booze illegal for women now! What do we want? Women's alcohol prohibition! When do we want it? Now!!!!

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Kirbmarc wrote:(I thought that the line about clothes reeking of piss was a bit too over the top, but apparently some of you really thought I was concerned).
Actually, the problem with your "clothes reeking of piss" idea is that it will not prevent a woman from going home with you (to be raped), but will seriously lower the "quality" of said woman.

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jugheadnaut wrote:
Guest wrote:
Harley is fantasy fulfillment because she can (sort of) make it work for her and her actions make her popular in fandom whereas in rl, that shit gets you a ring of clear blue waterr around you socially in about a second. But it's easy to overlook Harley as the perpetual victim that she is (to the whims of the Joker, to the emotional storm inside her the size of something on Jupiter, and icy vacuum of her own lack of identity) when you have some or all of these traits to certain degrees.

That'll be 50 cents, Charlie Brown.
I agree that her popularity within this group is primarily fantasy fulfillment for depressive, frustrated feminists who get a rhetorical beat down when they venture out of their safe spaces. The gleeful chaos that she brings in taking on, and sometimes getting the upper hand over, the square, rational, male enforcer of order is intoxicated to them. I don't think they look much beyond this. Maybe for some it's also a secret fantasy to ally with a powerful male figure who basically shares the same goals, but is a much more ambitious and effective planner and can focus her emotions and keep her in line when necessary.
I think most of them have not read the comics and only really know Harley from the animated series. Which if you are just a purest is where her first appearance is, but I don't think the kid's show really drives deep in the how fucked up her life really is. It's one of those things were people claim more knowledge than they have.

Note: I am not a big fan of DC and have not read much of the Harley Quinn stuff myself but I have heard from friends that the movie is looking completely spot on.

Note 2: I am writing this at work. :banana-dance:

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comhcinc wrote: Note 2: I am writing this at work. :banana-dance:
Careful, now.

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Sulman wrote:
comhcinc wrote: Note 2: I am writing this at work. :banana-dance:
Careful, now.

It's allowed and I am on my lunch break anyhow.

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Apparently, these critters favor fetid swampland.

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