Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[Really?]

people making up nonstop lies.

What is a "nonstop lie"? Perchance he meant to say "making up lies nonstop." Or perhaps he doesn't the order words of matters much think very.

Great. Already a word use Steersman we have. Now a grammar Steersman to the scene emerges.

[Pitchguest]

From PZ's post about Tauriq, in the comments:

Once again, the target the Gators choose to harass isn’t a games journalist.

...

I hadn’t realized Tariq was writing for Polygon. So, I’m wrong in #5. They actually did manage to target a game journalist for once.

http://mm-bbs.org/public/style_emoticon ... cepalm.gif

You fucking moron.

[Steersman]

Is Steers a troll or an actual racist? Real racists are so rare that I find them hard to identify, but I think he's made an admirable effort to qualify himself for the label.

He doesn't realize all his arguments about barbaric belief systems apply equally to Christians (he has made the comparison himself between doctrines), yet I hear no call for the mass deportation of all Christians in the western world who won't piss on the Bible.

This combined with his nigger arguments makes me suspicious.

I don't think the question is if he is a troll-he is, by nearly every definition. Does he know he's a troll? That I honestly don't know. I've riled him up a bit at times to see if he is personally invested in his arguments, and he does seem upset. Most trolls maintain a certain distance, but I really can't tell with any reliability.

That he is a racist seems beyond doubt. There is no reason to want to use the word nigger unless you want to shame somebody for the color of their skin. If you're having a problem with that person, you address the behavior of the person without resorting to things that they can't control. The only reason to use it is because of the color of their skin. There is no other rational applicability. So the only reason to use the term is racist. Even most African-Americans only use the word ironically or not at all.

You really can't have read Croom's article very closely, or fairly, if that is what you think:

... while Hoggard (2006) also pointed out how “Rock claimed it was socially acceptable for black people to refer to segments of the black population that degraded the black community through laziness and stupidity as “Niggas” [rather than “Black People”]” (my emphasis; see also Jeshion, 2013b, p. 309, 314–315)

You might try again.

He really has crossed the line into evil though. Mass deportations have never, ever gone well. Every attempt to segregate an element of the population for protecting the rest has gone very badly. ....

Well it's evil, wicked, mean and nasty
(Don't step on the grass, Sam)
And it will ruin our fair country
(Don't be such an ass, Sam)
Well, it will hook your Sue and Johnny
(You're so full of bull, Sam)

Allowing people into a country who have no willingness to assimilate or to accept the principles on which it is founded has frequently not gone very well either. You may wish to give some thought to the costs and benefits in each case - do consider 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo in your deliberations.

So fuck him for a racist, [ethnic]-cleansing troll.

And your grandmother wears army boots.

[Karmakin]

Yeah, PZ, Gamergate drove Tauriq from Twitter. They absolutely did.

OR

Self-professed games writer/columnist/journalist was called out on his bad practices admitting he doesn't actually know about the shit he's writing about on social media by a leaderless consumer revolt intent on improving games journalism. Also, criticism. That's a thing that most writers have to deal with when they write complete horse hockey. Except most writers don't call it 'harassment'. They can dish it out but they can't take it. Sensitive Joss Whedon makes his presence known yet again.

You know, I'm actually open to the idea that we shouldn't directly criticize other people and instead talk in more positive, constructive tones.

But that goes for everybody. Just because you have a byline doesn't make you above that..in fact, it gives you a higher level of responsibility.

[Steersman]

[.youtube]5wU1Dr5Vj_w[/youtube]
A good bet, methinks. :-) At least in my case - couldn't even find a decent translation although I gather it's a rock band of sorts. Amused to note the many English words scattered throughout the Dutch text.

Erm ... sounded pretty German to me. Anyway, according to Google Translate :

Where are you, does not matter
They are now everywhere
Every time they are again
In the majority
<snip>

You're surrounded by idiots, living dead - they smell quite bad
You are surrounded by weak Maten, they know nothing, they recommend - and are always right
And you want this world that finally brain falls from the sky
It would be nice if they understand you: belongs to Homo Sapiens geh'n more than upright

Not a perfect job at any rate, but good enough for government work?

Thanks. Thought it might have been German but thought I'd seen a reference to the Dutch as well - my mistake.

[Pitchguest]

In the comments at PZ's:

Now banned, Ansatz wrote:
“I’m making the observation that many here engage in behaviors that they ostensibly decry.”
Yes, I notice how full of doxxing, stalking, death threats, and shock pics these forums are…
[/snark]

Let's see. Skep tickle was doxxed, Abbie was stalked, a bunch of them threatened to shove rotting dead rodents and/or rusty knives up people's arses and I'm not sqeamish but this is pretty shocking. (Warning: PZ Myers tries dressing up as a pirate, looking menacingly into the camera with a letter opener in his gob.) And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Skep tickle]

and the story of Tauriq Moosa continues, some people over at KiA dug up this gem where he argues for antinatalism and that having a child of your own instead of adopting is immoral, and invents a new version of racism for those who don't heed his advice:

"When people create children they discriminate based on genetics. This I termed genecism."

You have no idea how much it amuses me when non-Slymepit people who are completely uninvolved in the "schism" make fun of FTB. Hensley's "crazy" pic is a meme, too. Beautiful.

Well, to be fair, they aren't making fun of FTB, they are making fun of a complete moron who wrote one of the most batshit insane SJW gaming articles ever written for a major gaming site. I haven't actually seen anyone on KiA even mention that he's a FTBer.

Personally I didn't even know he was an FTBer even though I laughed my ass off at his racism in Witcher 3 article, it took me quite some time to make the connection that the FTB blogger people here were laughing at and the moron all the GGers had been laughing at the whole month were one and the same person.

Forgive my ignorance, but what's KiA?

The linked blog post is from 2011 - I'm willing to consider that his views may have changed since then, though it is fascinating to see that what he wrote there would probably not pass muster at FTB/A+ now. (I added the phrase in <> for clarification; the parenthetical comments were in the original):

(b) you would not pass acceptance <to adopt> (you are mad, too poor, unemployed or make too little money, live alone, or have too many children already that you can’t look after another).

If (b), then obviously we would not want that person to breed. It would bring more misery into the world by having another being suffer...

And I did see his comments on PC master race. :doh:

[Skep tickle]

In the comments at PZ's:

Now banned, Ansatz wrote:
“I’m making the observation that many here engage in behaviors that they ostensibly decry.”
Yes, I notice how full of doxxing, stalking, death threats, and shock pics these forums are…
[/snark]

Let's see. Skep tickle was doxxed, Abbie was stalked, a bunch of them threatened to shove rotting dead rodents and/or rusty knives up people's arses and I'm not sqeamish but this is pretty shocking. (Warning: PZ Myers tries dressing up as a pirate, looking menacingly into the camera with a letter opener in his gob.) And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

IIRC, there was that dude over at FTB who offered to break legs & mark certain people by painting a butterfly in the driveway.

[Bourne Skeptic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/

It's a gamergate hub

[jet_lagg]

Is Steers a troll or an actual racist? Real racists are so rare that I find them hard to identify, but I think he's made an admirable effort to qualify himself for the label.

He doesn't realize all his arguments about barbaric belief systems apply equally to Christians (he has made the comparison himself between doctrines), yet I hear no call for the mass deportation of all Christians in the western world who won't piss on the Bible.

This combined with his nigger arguments makes me suspicious.

Not sure. In general I'm hesitant to call people racists, because the word (at least in my lifetime) has been used to describe truly hateful individuals. The sort you'd go to literal war with. I see no reason to go to war with steers. Maybe if he was a political leader with an entire nation following him. He's an asshole, to be sure. He's casually bigoted toward a large group of people based on stupid reasoning, but I also really trend toward the idea that bigoted thought should be seen as silly, something to be ridiculed rather than eradicated by any means necessary. It's a more nuanced perspective. My uncle (now deceased) was a racist IMO. I loved him. He was a genuinely good guy. I don't think he'd go out and "lynch a nigger", but his attitudes were harmful toward social cohesion in general.

[SoylentAtheist]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's KiA?

KiA = reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction

It is a primary gamergate discussion group. The name is a riff off of /r/TumblrInAction discussion group that would laugh at Tumblr idiocy.
Kotaku is pulled from a "gaming" review website that was notoriously shitty, unethical and spewed bullshit left and right. A hub of "journalists" without ethics. deepfreeze.it/outlet.php?o=kotaku

That subreddit was one of the few that managed to survive the purges of other gamergate reddits by the admins. Today it is one of the most active subreddits on reddit.

[Pitchguest]

Yeah, PZ, Gamergate drove Tauriq from Twitter. They absolutely did.

OR

Self-professed games writer/columnist/journalist was called out on his bad practices admitting he doesn't actually know about the shit he's writing about on social media by a leaderless consumer revolt intent on improving games journalism. Also, criticism. That's a thing that most writers have to deal with when they write complete horse hockey. Except most writers don't call it 'harassment'. They can dish it out but they can't take it. Sensitive Joss Whedon makes his presence known yet again.

You know, I'm actually open to the idea that we shouldn't directly criticize other people and instead talk in more positive, constructive tones.

But that goes for everybody. Just because you have a byline doesn't make you above that..in fact, it gives you a higher level of responsibility.

Assuming that's not what they were doing. The problem is that any criticism, any at all, were usually met with:

tauriqmoosablock.jpg

Tauriq Moosa blocks constructive criticism

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And frankly, if you start calling people 'old timey racists' like Tauriq did, in addition to sexist and misogynist, then you should be able to take it the same way you dish it out. If you claim the "PC Master Race" on Reddit is really about race and "excluding POC" then you should be prepared for some pushback. Not bitch and moan and call it 'harassment.' Or Googling your own name and telling people you've already blocked to leave you alone.

http://i.imgur.com/aTEpggT.png

Because that happened. The idiocy of FT bloggers never ceases to amaze.

[Skep tickle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/

It's a gamergate hub

Forgive my ignorance, but what's KiA?

KiA = reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction

It is a primary gamergate discussion group. The name is a riff off of /r/TumblrInAction discussion group that would laugh at Tumblr idiocy.
Kotaku is pulled from a "gaming" review website that was notoriously shitty, unethical and spewed bullshit left and right. A hub of "journalists" without ethics. deepfreeze.it/outlet.php?o=kotaku

That subreddit was one of the few that managed to survive the purges of other gamergate reddits by the admins. Today it is one of the most active subreddits on reddit.

Thanks - I knew it under the full name, not the abbreviation - have only gone there when following a link, so far.

Poking around a little bit just now, there's lulz to be had, including this comment from this thread:

I'll have you know the PC Master race is a diverse culture of PCs! Ranging from towers of all colors and sizes to CPUs of different chipsets and processor speeds.

[Pitchguest]

In the comments at PZ's:

Now banned, Ansatz wrote:
“I’m making the observation that many here engage in behaviors that they ostensibly decry.”
Yes, I notice how full of doxxing, stalking, death threats, and shock pics these forums are…
[/snark]

Let's see. Skep tickle was doxxed, Abbie was stalked, a bunch of them threatened to shove rotting dead rodents and/or rusty knives up people's arses and I'm not sqeamish but this is pretty shocking. (Warning: PZ Myers tries dressing up as a pirate, looking menacingly into the camera with a letter opener in his gob.) And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

IIRC, there was that dude over at FTB who offered to break legs & mark certain people by painting a butterfly in the driveway.

Absolutely. There were also julian 'I'll break your fucking spine' francisco, Greg 'I'll kick your fucking ass' Laden (defended and still is by the supposed moral arbiters at FtB) and Brownian (aka Anthony K) who threatened all sorts of bodily harm. Now for the life of me I can't remember a single instance where this has happened on the 'Pit. We are the worst. Worst. Hate site. Ever.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Bad Tigzy- you erased Yemmy:http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynistin ... l-dolezal/

Yeah, well...that was still a pretty half-assed effort from Yemmy. If she'd really been into it, she'd have done a poem about it.

Yo, Rachel Dolezal
Yo ain't no brown girl
Yo is white
Like the opposite of nite
But yo ain't bright
Like me
Ho.

'To Rachel Dolezal, Yo Ain't My Pal' by Yemisi Ilesanmi

Rachel. Dolezal.
Richard. Dawkins.
One is a woman,
Of African might,
Soul of the lion,
Skin black as night.
One is a white man,
Evil of course,
But he will tremble,
When the lion roars.

Rachel Dolezal,
You are my gal,
African sisters we are definitely,
Hot lesbian lovers I hope becomes reality,
Me licking your nipples while you writhe like a snake,
With delight and so tasty,
Like a nice piece of hake.

Richard Dawkins,
You are a man,
You cannot come into me,
For my vagina says No Entry,
The melons I like are not those called water,
For I do prefer,
The ones on a woman: a mom or a daughter.

[Really?]

Yeah, PZ, Gamergate drove Tauriq from Twitter. They absolutely did.

OR

Self-professed games writer/columnist/journalist was called out on his bad practices admitting he doesn't actually know about the shit he's writing about on social media by a leaderless consumer revolt intent on improving games journalism. Also, criticism. That's a thing that most writers have to deal with when they write complete horse hockey. Except most writers don't call it 'harassment'. They can dish it out but they can't take it. Sensitive Joss Whedon makes his presence known yet again.

You know, I'm actually open to the idea that we shouldn't directly criticize other people and instead talk in more positive, constructive tones.

But that goes for everybody. Just because you have a byline doesn't make you above that..in fact, it gives you a higher level of responsibility.

I can agree to some extent. But how can you be constructive with writers and editors of sites who think that the majority of gamers are racists and sexists? That most games are sexists and racists? Who ignore that Brianna Wu and Anita Sarkeesian have sent themselves the threats they claim are oppressing them?

Do you really think that PZ can be brought around to reason if we speak to him in positive, constructive tones? Mick Nugent tried that.

You know how that went.

[Billie from Ockham]

You know, I'm actually open to the idea that we shouldn't directly criticize other people and instead talk in more positive, constructive tones.

But how do you feel about wearing red polo shirts for the rest of your life?

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

In the comments at PZ's:



Let's see. Skep tickle was doxxed, Abbie was stalked, a bunch of them threatened to shove rotting dead rodents and/or rusty knives up people's arses and I'm not sqeamish but this is pretty shocking. (Warning: PZ Myers tries dressing up as a pirate, looking menacingly into the camera with a letter opener in his gob.) And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

IIRC, there was that dude over at FTB who offered to break legs & mark certain people by painting a butterfly in the driveway.

Absolutely. There were also julian 'I'll break your fucking spine' francisco, Greg 'I'll kick your fucking ass' Laden (defended and still is by the supposed moral arbiters at FtB) and Brownian (aka Anthony K) who threatened all sorts of bodily harm. Now for the life of me I can't remember a single instance where this has happened on the 'Pit. We are the worst. Worst. Hate site. Ever.

Was it Julian who offered to paint a star of david butterfly on the storefronts driveways of Germany's FfTB's enemies, so that they could be easily identified and abused?

If not, add that cunt to the list.

[Karmakin]

Yeah, PZ, Gamergate drove Tauriq from Twitter. They absolutely did.

OR

Self-professed games writer/columnist/journalist was called out on his bad practices admitting he doesn't actually know about the shit he's writing about on social media by a leaderless consumer revolt intent on improving games journalism. Also, criticism. That's a thing that most writers have to deal with when they write complete horse hockey. Except most writers don't call it 'harassment'. They can dish it out but they can't take it. Sensitive Joss Whedon makes his presence known yet again.

You know, I'm actually open to the idea that we shouldn't directly criticize other people and instead talk in more positive, constructive tones.

But that goes for everybody. Just because you have a byline doesn't make you above that..in fact, it gives you a higher level of responsibility.

I can agree to some extent. But how can you be constructive with writers and editors of sites who think that the majority of gamers are racists and sexists? That most games are sexists and racists? Who ignore that Brianna Wu and Anita Sarkeesian have sent themselves the threats they claim are oppressing them?

Do you really think that PZ can be brought around to reason if we speak to him in positive, constructive tones? Mick Nugent tried that.

You know how that went.

Just because I'm open to the idea doesn't mean that I think it's plausible. Just because it's my ideal doesn't mean that I think it's in any way shape or form realistic.

I think one thing that's important to understand is the MASSIVE bait and switch being done with those terms..."sexism" and "racism". I mean, there's this massive flip flop between racism/sexism being the OMG WORST THING EVER EVIL EVIL EVIL, and then when people get offended when they're called that..Oh no! it's just a light mild rebuke. Nothing really. No need to get upset.

You can't have it both ways. And it's that dichotomy which makes my ideal unrealistic and unachievable IMO. Because to be constructive requires something constructive to build upon, either something you agree or disagree with. What the fuck do FemFreq ever do that's in any way, shape or form constructive?

[Sunder]

In the comments at PZ's:

“I’m making the observation that many here engage in behaviors that they ostensibly decry.”

Well shit, isn't that a pretty accurate description of their "we need to stop scaring off new people" discussion thread that went nowhere fast?

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Was it Julian who offered to paint a star of david butterfly on the storefronts driveways of Germany's FfTB's enemies, so that they could be easily identified and abused?

If not, add that cunt to the list.

Haha! And right on cue...

http://i.imgur.com/hBf4NRY.png

[AndrewV69]

At the risk of stirring the pot : *trigger warning* Link leads to Breitbart.


Apparently Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott doesn’t just talk tough on terrorism – he acts on it. On Wednesday his conservative coalition government will introduce new legislation stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorism.

The article cites two other newspapers one the Dail Mail and the other ABC (AUZ) so it might be a thing I suppose.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Have you ever seen Nerd using his "Idjit. Killfiled" subroutine on someone? More recently it became "hushfiled", presumably because "kill" was a bit triggering to Cainaji et all (though "hush does seem to erase the lived experiences of our deaf brothers and sisters. Still, what do I know of such moral conundrums?).

Do you also remember the recent case where Nerd cited a website to support his argument, but which in fact argued against his position? And that his excuse was he didn't have time to read beyond the landing page?

Well, he has now come up with another admission of laziness, sloppiness, and all around cuntishness:

http://i.imgur.com/9D0XXA0.png

Talking about kill/hushfiling, he says:

I just threaten to use it.

Firstly, I hope that there is no one loose in society who would feel "threatened" by Nerd of fucking Redhead telling them they were killfiled. Secondly, Nerd: you are a dishonest piece of shit. As well as an ignoramous. And a sad cartoon of a man, with no dignity, no self-respect, no point. Oh, and a cunt.

[acathode]

Yeah, he's been on a multi-week rampage attacking gamers and developers because The Witcher 3, based loosely on Poland of the early 1200s, wasn't full of minorities. No shit, asshole, neither was Poland.

If anyone missed it, here's the article.

There's so much fucking wrong in his article that it's hard to know where to start.

Many players have responded to concerns about the lack of people of color in the game by saying it’s because the world is based on Slavic mythology.
Because Slavic people are predominantly white, it therefore is in keeping with nods to that mythology to only feature white people in the game’s world. Just as you would feature Indian people if you were making a game based on Indian mythology, so you would do the same for Slavic.
But this misses a crucial point: Things are not equal. We are not in a medium that features predominantly Indian men, Chinese women, or focuses on stories from Africa. We’re part of an industry that frequently tells the stories of white people and stars white people.
That’s why whitewashing — casting a white actor to play a character of color — is not the same as race-bending — casting a black actor to play a white character.

Because other games are full of white people, Slavic people don't get to make authentic games featuring Slavic mythology/culture...

It’s "What about me?" when everything is already about you.

You don't even realize Slaves are a own ethnic group with their own history, culture and mythology that is barely represented at all in today's culture... nope, instead you just group them in with all other white crackers!

I talked to one polish guy I used to play with about this article and he were fucking furious about this... the gall to tell an Eastern Europeans that in the current US-dominated culture "everything is already about you" is so fucking insanely arrogant that the guy sounded close to violence.

Further, the defense of excluding people of color from a fantasy game is nonsensical. We are talking about being comfortable with the inclusion of wraiths and magic, but not the mere existence of people of color. Accuracy and realism flew out the window with the harpies.
"Historically accurate" is another common defense for many awful actions in fiction; but also doesn’t make sense when you’re not talking about actual events or even the Planet Earth.

Apparently he don't even understand basic storytelling and suspension of disbelief, since he brings up the most stupid of stupid arguments, ie. fantasy = not needing realism and accuracy - and apparently he don't even understand the value of keeping true to the source material that makes up the basis of the whole Witcher universe.

It should be mentioned the game deals with "racism," but other races literally means different species: Elves, dwarves and other non-humans face bigotry.
Indeed, it shows again that humans are white humans and everyone else is non-human and oppressed. I’m not against racism being depicted; the game actually shows racism and bigotry as bad. But even Elves have the opportunity to exist. People of color don’t.

So even though the game actually deals with racism, he's still gonna whine and complain and draw the most ridiculous and far fetching "woe is me" conclusion he can come up with...

Again: This is literal dehumanising of people of color. We are relegated to non-human species, their treatment is supposed to mimic real-world racist policies. This sci-fi/fantasy trope of dealing with racism by showing inter-species treatment could work — if all the humans weren’t all white.

This doesn't even make sense. No, that doesn't actually follow. It most certainly can work, even if all humans are white.

Consider: In Witcher 3, all humans are white and every other being is non-human. That’s not exactly friendly or inclusive of people of color. A game can include diverse number of monsters, but not a diverse number of skin colours or races for humans?

It's only "not inclusive" if you think that black people are so thin skinned that they can't handle one single game that doesn't have black people in it (since after all there are tons and tons of games that feature both playable and non playable characters of all kinds of races).

... I could continue for ages, but the whole text is so fucking condescending and so ignorant I could basically paste the whole thing and analyze each and every line with simply "No, you're a fucking moron"... It would be one thing if this tripe were published on FTB or some other shitty blog no one gave a shit about, but this guy managed to get this published on Polygon, which is unfortunately still one of the major gaming news-sites around.

In some ways though, you have to thank this guy. This and some other stunts the SJWs pulled during E3 were so over the top that it seems several game devs etc decided to break their silence and openly start mocking the SJWs... which ofc led to SJWs trying to get those devs fired.

[Sunder]

Do you also remember the recent case where Nerd cited a website to support his argument, but which in fact argued against his position? And that his excuse was he didn't have time to read beyond the landing page?

He did it twice in the space of three weeks.

[Bhurzum]

Now for the life of me I can't remember a single instance where this has happened on the 'Pit.

In all fairness, shortly after breaking radio silence (abandoning my "lurker" status), I posted a meme from the "I'll murder your whole fucking family" series. If anyone thinks that's a genuine threat, I really don't know how to respond other than heaping derision upon them.

Note: I was rapidly "gripped" for posting the image.

Meh.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploa ... family.jpg

I think this was the offending image.

Don't blame me, every time I threaten to kill a woman, God rewards me with loud music and pretty flashing lights in my head.

[Badger3k]

Pretty sure it's the biologist. The physicist was raked over the coals by the SJWs a bit back, but it could be an attempt to curry favor with them. I did think of tweeting - "this is a white male speaking, we are free to ignore anything he says" or something with more bite.

Nope, physicist.

Couple of clues, including the link to the twitter account ;)

Seriously? Then am I mistaken and it was the biologist who was attacked (over what his wife said, IIRC), or if it was this guy? If so, then he could be trying to suck up to the SJWs for whatever reason.

[Steersman]

At the risk of stirring the pot : *trigger warning* Link leads to Breitbart.

When did that ever stop you? ;-)

Apparently Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott doesn’t just talk tough on terrorism – he acts on it. On Wednesday his conservative coalition government will introduce new legislation stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorism.

The article cites two other newspapers one the Dail Mail and the other ABC (AUZ) so it might be a thing I suppose.

Bloody good show, eh? :-)

Though somewhat in passing, I'm frequently struck with the somewhat analogous case of the many Americans, Canadians, British, and those of various other Commonwealth countries who went to fight in the Spanish Civil War. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, I guess. Though of course I think the principles being fought for were/are different kettles of fish.

[Badger3k]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ithtauriq/

Our colleague here at FtB, Tauriq Moosa, had enough of the nonstop harassment on Twitter, and has left the medium. This is a real loss; his was an entertaining, humane, and vigorous voice

Even if the guy was being harassed for realz, jfc they're tweets. No great loss

(please don't harass me by saying this post of mine is shit)

Christ, their idea of nonstop harassment was the guy talking out of his ass, telling other people what to do and how they were bad people, and then being called on the fact that he knew nothing about what he was pontificating about. They only mourn his loss because he fits the narrative of POCs being driven away from gaming.

A "gamer" who has absolutely no clue about what he was talking about? I'm mainly consoles and a few mobile games myself, gave up computer gaming decades ago and haven't kept up much, but I know more about the topics than he does. I suspect it is more for the narrative than for them thinking his uninformed ignorant opinions is a real loss. Well, they could consider him a culture warrior and everything he does is therefore good, even if it is total shit. Besides, a lot of the 'harassment" was the standard - disagreements, commenting about the article, retweets, etc.

[Badger3k]

and the story of Tauriq Moosa continues, some people over at KiA dug up this gem where he argues for antinatalism and that having a child of your own instead of adopting is immoral, and invents a new version of racism for those who don't heed his advice:

You have no idea how much it amuses me when non-Slymepit people who are completely uninvolved in the "schism" make fun of FTB. Hensley's "crazy" pic is a meme, too. Beautiful.

Well, to be fair, they aren't making fun of FTB, they are making fun of a complete moron who wrote one of the most batshit insane SJW gaming articles ever written for a major gaming site. I haven't actually seen anyone on KiA even mention that he's a FTBer.

Personally I didn't even know he was an FTBer even though I laughed my ass off at his racism in Witcher 3 article, it took me quite some time to make the connection that the FTB blogger people here were laughing at and the moron all the GGers had been laughing at the whole month were one and the same person.

Skimming the article gives some hope - he won't be breeding more of him, although if he adopts he could corrupt the child with his ideology. I wonder if there is more, less, or the same, teenage rebellion towards a parents ways in adopted vs genetic children?

[Steersman]

In the comments at PZ's:

Now banned, Ansatz wrote:
“I’m making the observation that many here engage in behaviors that they ostensibly decry.”
Yes, I notice how full of doxxing, stalking, death threats, and shock pics these forums are…
[/snark]

Let's see. Skep tickle was doxxed, Abbie was stalked, a bunch of them threatened to shove rotting dead rodents and/or rusty knives up people's arses and I'm not sqeamish but this is pretty shocking. (Warning: PZ Myers tries dressing up as a pirate, looking menacingly into the camera with a letter opener in his gob.) And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

IIRC, there was that dude over at FTB who offered to break legs & mark certain people by painting a butterfly in the driveway.

Bapco? Bapapco? Seem to remember it was someone on Benson's blog - hence the butterfly. And that she had said something to the effect that she would have deleted it at the time it showed up if she'd been there. So at one time she did have a moderation policy that wasn't quite so draconian and narrow-minded. But I also seem to recollect that she let the comment stand - which probably says something not particularly flattering about her and FfTB.

[Billie from Ockham]

If I started the hashtag #NotYourDrizzt to complain about the token "good" dark elf in a series of books with myriad dad guys with dark skin, which of the following is most likely to happen:

1) my Twitter account would gain thousands of followers

2) my Twitter account would be banned

3) the BBC would invite me onto the radio

4) at least one serious R. A. Salvator fan would argue with me that Jarlaxle was also a good guy

5) Steersman would argue that "elf-nigger" is a compliment

[Billie from Ockham]

"dad guys" for "bad guys"?

Freud would have a field day with that one.

[Bhurzum]

If I started the hashtag #NotYourDrizzt to complain about the token "good" dark elf in a series of books with myriad dad guys with dark skin, which of the following is most likely to happen:

1) my Twitter account would gain thousands of followers

2) my Twitter account would be banned

3) the BBC would invite me onto the radio

4) at least one serious R. A. Salvator fan would argue with me that Jarlaxle was also a good guy

5) Steersman would argue that "elf-nigger" is a compliment

6) There would be a #drowlivesmatter backlash

[KiwiInOz]

At the risk of stirring the pot : *trigger warning* Link leads to Breitbart.


Apparently Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott doesn’t just talk tough on terrorism – he acts on it. On Wednesday his conservative coalition government will introduce new legislation stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorism.

The article cites two other newspapers one the Dail Mail and the other ABC (AUZ) so it might be a thing I suppose.

He's playing dog whistle politics. He also threatened to shirtfront Putin at the G20, but humped his leg instead.

Nevertheless, we should be very afraid because they want the power to do this given to one Minister based on suspicion of engaging in terrorism overseas.

[rayshul]

I'm pretty open on the citizenship stripping. But I also think countries should stop aid and trade to countries where the politicians kill their citizens.

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) when fighting against ISIS. It's fucked these kind of people don't get half as much coverage.

[KiwiInOz]

I'm pretty open on the citizenship stripping. But I also think countries should stop aid and trade to countries where the politicians kill their citizens.

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) when fighting against ISIS. It's fucked these kind of people don't get half as much coverage.

I'm a dual citizen of NZ (native) and Australia. How long before my Aussie citizenship is revoked for engaging in Slymepit?

[comhcinc]

I'm pretty open on the citizenship stripping. But I also think countries should stop aid and trade to countries where the politicians kill their citizens.

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) when fighting against ISIS. It's fucked these kind of people don't get half as much coverage.

I'm a dual citizen of NZ (native) and Australia. How long before my Aussie citizenship is revoked for engaging in Slymepit?

7 months.

[Skep tickle]

Pretty sure it's the biologist. The physicist was raked over the coals by the SJWs a bit back, but it could be an attempt to curry favor with them. I did think of tweeting - "this is a white male speaking, we are free to ignore anything he says" or something with more bite.

Nope, physicist.

Couple of clues, including the link to the twitter account ;)

Seriously? Then am I mistaken and it was the biologist who was attacked (over what his wife said, IIRC), or if it was this guy? If so, then he could be trying to suck up to the SJWs for whatever reason.

The wife-husband pair you're referring to was Gia Milinovich & Brian Cox (she a TV presenter & writer, he a physicist at University of Manchester). (Found that here, from 4 months ago in this thread.)

Sean M Carroll, the theoretical physicist at Caltech, is married to Jennifer Ouellette, who is a science writer & a 2-time panelist on RW's Quiz-o-tron.

The biologist Sean Carroll seems to be married but AFAICT his spouse isn't involved in the drama.

[Pitchguest]

Francisco Bacopa. The nutcase who said he would paint a butterfly on someone's driveway in Ophelia's honour.

[Old_ones]

Hat's off to Old_ones for replying to Steersman's abstract "analogical" arguments with an excellent post based on estimates of real statistics.

Empiric evidence >> a priori abstract analyses. Well done!

Thanks. Coming from you, that means something.

Is Steers a troll or an actual racist? Real racists are so rare that I find them hard to identify, but I think he's made an admirable effort to qualify himself for the label.

He doesn't realize all his arguments about barbaric belief systems apply equally to Christians (he has made the comparison himself between doctrines), yet I hear no call for the mass deportation of all Christians in the western world who won't piss on the Bible.

This combined with his nigger arguments makes me suspicious.

I think it would be wrong to believe that Steers is either a true racist or a troll. IMO Steers is an under appreciated comedian who tries to make subtle points about the limitations of an overly philosophical approach to issues. He does this by setting up a question, and then using logic and semantics to run off into a neverland of absurdities, while we try to haul him back to reality, usually by talking about things from the real world, like evidence and data. He never listens to us because he's trying to warn us about the kind of crap someone might come up with if they regard a dictionary as the sole authority on language, or devise foreign relations strategies for dealing with Muslims while using only passages from the Koran and polemics against Islam as a basis to understand them. Personally, I've always been a bit suspicious of philosophy and the a priori approach, so I find it hilarious and play along for fun. I do hope people aren't coming to the board and taking him seriously though...

[Billie from Ockham]

If I started the hashtag #NotYourDrizzt to complain about the token "good" dark elf in a series of books with myriad dad guys with dark skin, which of the following is most likely to happen:

1) my Twitter account would gain thousands of followers

2) my Twitter account would be banned

3) the BBC would invite me onto the radio

4) at least one serious R. A. Salvator fan would argue with me that Jarlaxle was also a good guy

5) Steersman would argue that "elf-nigger" is a compliment

6) There would be a #drowlivesmatter backlash

Touché and good-night!

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Hat's off to Old_ones for replying to Steersman's abstract "analogical" arguments with an excellent post based on estimates of real statistics.

Empiric evidence >> a priori abstract analyses. Well done!

Thanks. Coming from you, that means something.

Is Steers a troll or an actual racist? Real racists are so rare that I find them hard to identify, but I think he's made an admirable effort to qualify himself for the label.

He doesn't realize all his arguments about barbaric belief systems apply equally to Christians (he has made the comparison himself between doctrines), yet I hear no call for the mass deportation of all Christians in the western world who won't piss on the Bible.

This combined with his nigger arguments makes me suspicious.

I think it would be wrong to believe that Steers is either a true racist or a troll. IMO Steers is an under appreciated comedian who tries to make subtle points about the limitations of an overly philosophical approach to issues. He does this by setting up a question, and then using logic and semantics to run off into a neverland of absurdities, while we try to haul him back to reality, usually by talking about things from the real world, like evidence and data. He never listens to us because he's trying to warn us about the kind of crap someone might come up with if they regard a dictionary as the sole authority on language, or devise foreign relations strategies for dealing with Muslims while using only passages from the Koran and polemics against Islam as a basis to understand them. Personally, I've always been a bit suspicious of philosophy and the a priori approach, so I find it hilarious and play along for fun. I do hope people aren't coming to the board and taking him seriously though...

Yeah, they are actually. I refered an old friend from college here after he was complaining about the incursions of SJW into his field. It would have to happen in the middle of the original "nigger" debate. As philosophical as some people find it, that term is not looked upon by nearly anyone kindly. Especially if they happen to be of that persuasion, a melanin-endowed individual.

[Skep tickle]

IIRC, there was that dude over at FTB who offered to break legs & mark certain people by painting a butterfly in the driveway.

Bapco? Bapapco? Seem to remember it was someone on Benson's blog - hence the butterfly. And that she had said something to the effect that she would have deleted it at the time it showed up if she'd been there. So at one time she did have a moderation policy that wasn't quite so draconian and narrow-minded. But I also seem to recollect that she let the comment stand - which probably says something not particularly flattering about her and FfTB.

Quoted by cunt here: viewtopic.php?p=54110#p54110

Someone on Ophelia's blog:

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Francisco Bacopa
January 22, 2013 at 6:54 pm (UTC -8)
Seriously y’all, lawyer up. Hire private investigators. They will never stop until you can prove you can hit harder than they hit you. The long arm of the law is a pretty powerful fist. Make an effort to find out what legal recourse you have. Hire private investigators to dig up dirt. Find one of your worst harassers and hit him with a civil suit and release of embarrassing information at the same time.

You have to hit back hard, and with such shocking violence (and by violence I mean civil court injunctions and such, along with old 1995 Usenet posts about bedwetting domination fantasies) that others are deterred. They will never stop until you can instill fear.

If I were supplied with any address in Southeast Texas of one of your harassers I would gladly paint a butterfly on their driveway to send a message.

You can’t make them stop until they are afraid of you. Use the law when you can, and call for a higher level of harassment when you can’t. I am serious. I can tag anywhere from Austin to Lake Charles.

It's comment #18 in the "Loop loop loop" post at FTB B&W, still there & archived in 11/2014, but see the 3 subsequent comments from that thread quoted below, in which Ms Benson stated she did not want the escalation Francisco offered, & he apologised and said his comment had been inappropriate. Huzzah for that; I'd forgotten that part. (The apology might have been requested or brokered behind stage, of course.)

I've added bolding to one section in the exchange below.

“Call for a higher level of harassment”? Why on earth would I want to do that? I don’t want ever-escalating harassment; I want an end to harassment.

I don’t have any addresses and if I did I wouldn’t share them (except with law enforcement if necessary).

I just wanted to make an apology here. I suggested that I should be supplied with addresses of anyone harassing Ophelia anywhere between Austin and Lake Charles and that I should graffiti tag their property. At this time that is an inappropriate response.

I was moved to suggest this level of threatening behavior by the whole “acid in the face” Twitter comment. I take this comment seriously and still suggest exploring legal action.

Thanks, Francisco. Perhaps you’ve seen that your comment has been made into a new meme to beat me over the head with? They claim that I encourage it, which is odd, given that I disagreed with it. Odd, but typical.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

I'm pretty open on the citizenship stripping. But I also think countries should stop aid and trade to countries where the politicians kill their citizens.

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) when fighting against ISIS. It's fucked these kind of people don't get half as much coverage.

I'm a dual citizen of NZ (native) and Australia. How long before my Aussie citizenship is revoked for engaging in Slymepit?

I say we start our own country, with blackjack and hookers!

[Pitchguest]

Skep: Ha! Nicgugnetr'd.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

...

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) ...

:bjarte:

[Pitchguest]

...

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) ...

:bjarte:

:lol:

I'm hoping the 'kids' in this context has to do with soldiers he was mentoring. Otherwise, damn. The guy was pretty liberal with his seed.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

...

We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) ...

:bjarte:

:lol:

I'm hoping the 'kids' in this context has to do with soldiers he was mentoring. Otherwise, damn. The guy was pretty liberal with his seed.

Please tell me he adopted or at least had more than one woman (or male-identifying person with a functional womb ) bearing those kids.

[jimthepleb]

[quote="Steersman"]
You must be the owner of a 100 acres or more of hay to come up with so many strawmen. Or you're not a very careful or honest thinker. For one thing, seems to me that your "logically follow that [such] people ... are less human" is only your inference, your assessment of what is implied. For another, you might note that "we", as a matter of course, deprive people who commit various crimes of any number of various rights, not least to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" - a "mistreatment" that many seem to consider the epitome of "moral". And relative to the fairly credible charge that the Quran, in large part, constitutes hate speech, while US law stipulates that "hate speech is permissible unless it will lead to imminent hate violence", one might argue that other countries have a more sensible view - for instance, the UK:
[quote]
You can't make a straw man from hay.

[Steersman]

You must be the owner of a 100 acres or more of hay wheat [barley, oats, rice, rye] to come up with so many strawmen. .... And relative to the fairly credible charge that the Quran, in large part, constitutes hate speech, while US law stipulates that "hate speech is permissible unless it will lead to imminent hate violence", one might argue that other countries have a more sensible view - for instance, the UK:

You can't make a straw man from hay.

:lol: I stand corrected. FTFY. :-)

[Steersman]

Is Steers a troll or an actual racist? Real racists are so rare that I find them hard to identify, but I think he's made an admirable effort to qualify himself for the label.

He doesn't realize all his arguments about barbaric belief systems apply equally to Christians (he has made the comparison himself between doctrines), yet I hear no call for the mass deportation of all Christians in the western world who won't piss on the Bible.

This combined with his nigger arguments makes me suspicious.

Not sure. In general I'm hesitant to call people racists, because the word (at least in my lifetime) has been used to describe truly hateful individuals. The sort you'd go to literal war with. I see no reason to go to war with steers. Maybe if he was a political leader with an entire nation following him. He's an asshole, to be sure. He's casually bigoted toward a large group of people based on stupid reasoning ....

Well, thanks for apparently being willing to consider all the facts before making a judgement, a least a final one as to being a racist. However, I question both your “stupid reasoning”, and your “casually bigoted toward a large group of people”. While it is true that I’ve frequently framed my argument in terms of the epithet “nigger”, that was generally for the purposes of conciseness, impact, and clarity rather a desire to target any one particular group.

More particularly and for a point of reference, my argument, more or less from day one, has been: “cunt is to sexism as nigger is to racism”, which supports two different constructions: if “cunt” is necessarily sexist then “nigger” is necessarily racist, and, if “cunt” isn’t necessarily sexist then “nigger” isn’t necessarily racist. Although the second one was developed largely in response to the claim here, and by Ally Fogg among others, that “cunt” isn’t necessarily sexist. But I still think it is highly moot which of the two constructions holds more water, athough I think Croom’s paper adds some support to the second one.

And I’ve also argued, expanding the scope of the analogy, that other epithets can be used in place of “nigger” with appropriate changes to the corresponding classification. All of which I think is also supported by Croom’s paper; a few related portions:

Slurs such as nigger, cracker, kike, chink, and slut are linguistic expressions that are primarily used and understood to derogate certain group members on the basis of their descriptive attributes (such as their race or sex) and expressions of this kind have been considered by many to pack some of the nastiest punches natural language has to offer. ….. As Anderson and Lepore (2013a) write, there are a wide variety of slurs “that target groups on the basis of race (‘nigger’), nationality (‘kraut’), religion (‘kike’), gender (‘bitch’), sexual orientation (‘fag’), immigrant status (‘wetback’) and sundry other demographics” (p. 25). So one basic fact about slurs is that an application of a particular slur in context occurs based on considerations of its systematic differential application-conditions, which concern descriptive attributes of targets such as their racial or sexual identity.

.....

Here I challenge prior scholarship on slurs by arguing for the claim that slurs and descriptors are not coreferential expressions with precisely the same extension, and accordingly, that the latter are not simply nonpejorative correlates (NPCs) of the former. The relationship between slurs and descriptors is more complex than that and I will clarify this relationship by introducing the notion of a conceptual anchor in section five. …. The first source of supporting evidence suggesting that slurs and descriptors are not coreferential expressions with precisely the same extension comes from the discussion Szekely (2008) provides in “Offensive Words”. Here Szekely (2008) discusses how slurs were used in his linguistic community and reports that the slur faggot was in fact used to apply to some but not all male homosexuals.

So the essential claim – for all of those epithets and, presumably, for “cunt”, although that is not explicitly addressed in that paper – is that they have been used, at least by members of the groups supposedly targeted (the NPCs), to target other members of the group who, in Chris Rock’s words, “degraded the black community through laziness and stupidity”. Which can then be extended – mutatis mutandis – to other groups (Jews, homosexuals, Germans, etc.) without that justifying the contention that the use of such terms are either sexist or racist.

Which reminds me of a case-in-point, more or less: Josh the Spokesgay had, if I remember correctly, referred to another gay guy as an “uncle Mary” because he had somehow “degraded the gay community”, presumably through a lack of group solidarity – justifiably or not. But maybe of some passing interest, to some at least, is the fact (?) that that epithet has been, maybe, “reappropriated” from a different community, i.e., it’s a variation on “Uncle Tom”, presumably for similar or analogous reasons.

In any case, I think the question is one of whether the epithet – in all cases – is targeting the entire group, in which case the charge of sexism or racism holds water, or whether it is only targeting those who are “degrading their communities”, in which cases the charges don’t. Regardless of who uses them.

[James Caruthers]

Yeah, he's been on a multi-week rampage attacking gamers and developers because The Witcher 3, based loosely on Poland of the early 1200s, wasn't full of minorities. No shit, asshole, neither was Poland. Then he fucked the interpretation of the whole PC Master Race joke to indicate gamers are racist.

Total moron. People called him out on his stupidity. He claims victimhood and rage-deletes his Twitter account. So, of course, he gets his twitter victim points for quitting even though he was just a massive douche canoe.

There really is no defense for how stupid SJWs are being, attacking a Polish game from Polish developers about medieval Poland... Because it didn't have enough black people in it.

Maybe they could have a point if the game was about Medieval Florence, Rome or Egypt. But how many black people would have even been able to get to Poland?

[Crabman]

RE: the Tariq situation.

Aren't they all fond of saying "freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence"?

He's clearly facing the consequences of not knowing jack shit about a subject, jumping in it to call everyone racist, and then crying when people who are insulted and vilified by a hack who can't google a phrase to know it's a joke react accordingly. The most infuriating SJW aspect is wanting to set up a set of rules for everyone else that they can then avoid themselves by special opt out emergency handbrakes ("I'm harassed!") that only SJWs may pull.

Fuck hypocritical shitstains.

[James Caruthers]

Is Steers a troll or an actual racist? Real racists are so rare that I find them hard to identify, but I think he's made an admirable effort to qualify himself for the label.

He doesn't realize all his arguments about barbaric belief systems apply equally to Christians (he has made the comparison himself between doctrines), yet I hear no call for the mass deportation of all Christians in the western world who won't piss on the Bible.

This combined with his nigger arguments makes me suspicious.

Not sure. In general I'm hesitant to call people racists, because the word (at least in my lifetime) has been used to describe truly hateful individuals. The sort you'd go to literal war with. I see no reason to go to war with steers. Maybe if he was a political leader with an entire nation following him. He's an asshole, to be sure. He's casually bigoted toward a large group of people based on stupid reasoning, but I also really trend toward the idea that bigoted thought should be seen as silly, something to be ridiculed rather than eradicated by any means necessary. It's a more nuanced perspective. My uncle (now deceased) was a racist IMO. I loved him. He was a genuinely good guy. I don't think he'd go out and "lynch a nigger", but his attitudes were harmful toward social cohesion in general.

I don't see racists as people to "go to war with" as much as people who have great lulz potential. I'm not trying to "smear" him with the label, if you will. Just attempting to figure out if the word, as a description of his beliefs and behavior, is accurate. I think it may be.

I don't know if Steers is a good person or not. I do think it's funny he accused me of a strawman for taking his arguments and extrapolating them to their natural, racist conclusions. :lol:

If one group of people can be deported en masse or moved into camps for "barbaric" thoughts or religious beliefs (as interpreted by Steersman's understanding of their beliefs of course) then it logically follows we can target any group of people who have "barbaric" thoughts or religious beliefs (as interpreted by a Steersmanian interpretation of what this group believes.)

[James Caruthers]

Steersman, would you admit that your understanding of all the various sects, beliefs and doctrines of Islam in total is as lacking as your comprehension of Novum Organum? :lol:

[Michael J]

At the risk of stirring the pot : *trigger warning* Link leads to Breitbart.


Apparently Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott doesn’t just talk tough on terrorism – he acts on it. On Wednesday his conservative coalition government will introduce new legislation stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorism.

The article cites two other newspapers one the Dail Mail and the other ABC (AUZ) so it might be a thing I suppose.

Everytime he screws up Abbott tries to whip up a bit of fear. The power to do this is already there. The difference is that he wants politicians to be able to do it arbitrarily without going to the judiciary.

[Couch]

At the risk of stirring the pot : *trigger warning* Link leads to Breitbart.

When did that ever stop you? ;-)

Apparently Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott doesn’t just talk tough on terrorism – he acts on it. On Wednesday his conservative coalition government will introduce new legislation stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorism.

The article cites two other newspapers one the Dail Mail and the other ABC (AUZ) so it might be a thing I suppose.

Bloody good show, eh? :-)

Though somewhat in passing, I'm frequently struck with the somewhat analogous case of the many Americans, Canadians, British, and those of various other Commonwealth countries who went to fight in the Spanish Civil War. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, I guess. Though of course I think the principles being fought for were/are different kettles of fish.

No it's not a 'bloody good show' at all; and nor is that an Australianism, you drongo, it's a Britishism.

It's dog-whistle politics of the basest form, by one of its most shameless practitioner. The policy would bulldoze a hundred years of jurisprudence on citizenship along with the burden of proof in criminal and extra-territorial law.

Racist cunt, aren't you.

[Pitchguest]

"We had a bloke from NZ who died recently (leaving 18 kids behind) ..."

:bjarte:

:lol:

I'm hoping the 'kids' in this context has to do with soldiers he was mentoring. Otherwise, damn. The guy was pretty liberal with his seed.

Please tell me he adopted or at least had more than one woman (or male-identifying person with a functional womb ) bearing those kids.

Well, at least if he adopted he wouldn't "discriminate based on genetics." Right, Tauriq?

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[Kirbmarc]

Yeah, he's been on a multi-week rampage attacking gamers and developers because The Witcher 3, based loosely on Poland of the early 1200s, wasn't full of minorities. No shit, asshole, neither was Poland. Then he fucked the interpretation of the whole PC Master Race joke to indicate gamers are racist.

Total moron. People called him out on his stupidity. He claims victimhood and rage-deletes his Twitter account. So, of course, he gets his twitter victim points for quitting even though he was just a massive douche canoe.

There really is no defense for how stupid SJWs are being, attacking a Polish game from Polish developers about medieval Poland... Because it didn't have enough black people in it.

Maybe they could have a point if the game was about Medieval Florence, Rome or Egypt. But how many black people would have even been able to get to Poland?

Medieval Florence or Rome didn't have a staggering number of black people, either. There were more than people thought until a few years ago, but far less than in modern Florence or Rome.

In general in the middle ages black people were a rarity in Europe. People knew that they existed, you could see some of them in the capitals and especially in the commercial districts and in the courts but not nearly as much as the SJWs claim. Many of those who the SJWs call "POCs" were North African Arabs or Berbers, not Sub-Saharan Africans. And even the Arabs/Berbers were only very common only in Muslim-dominated Spain and Sicily. Many of them weren't much darker than the local population.

Black people were more common in the courts. They were likely to become favorites of a king, prince or duke because the color of their skin and their origin was seen as "exotic". However in the Early Middle Ages and pretty much until the 1500s (and the establishment of some some European commercial hubs in Sub-Saharan Africa) they were pretty rare among nobility, too.

They were even more common among the courts and nobility during the Renaissance and especially during the early period of the Enlightenment. Famous ones included Alexandre Dumas' father and Alexander Pushkin's son. Even then they were much more rare than in modern Europe.

To sum it up: black people weren't an incredibly uncommon sight, especially in Southern Europe and in the largest cities and ports, but they accounted for a very low percentage of the population, especially before the 1500s. Complaining about the lack of black people in a game set in Poland before the 1500s is absurd.