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Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:01 pm
by Steersman
Nec_V20 wrote:John Greg wrote:Knock it off, Nec. Just knock it the fuck off.
Where the hell do you get off with some crock of shit like this?
....
No I am not going to "knock off" something which she took to the next level.
I don't mind animosity, but I draw the line at deliberate mischaracterisation.
That's a bit of a hoot considering that "lying" might be construed as "deliberate mischaracterization". Something you insist is one of your "claims to fame":
Nec_V20 wrote:The beauty of it is that neither you nor anyone else will ever be able to catch me out in my lies and I find that really amusing.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:02 pm
by jugheadnaut
Aneris wrote:Stephanie Zvans
“Why I Am Not A Rationalist†(frozen) piece got some critique from Slate Star Codex...
Scott Alexander wrote:
Imagine that somebody wrote:
- Some of my friends support Ron Paul. I think that’s wrong. After all, he’s a libertarian, and Wikipedia says a libertarian is a person who believes in free will. But free will is impossible in a deterministic universe. Ron Paul’s belief in free will is clearly why there are so few Swiss people among Ron Paul supporters, since Swiss people are Calvinists and so understand determinism better.
This is sort of how I feel reading Why I Am Not A Rationalist on Almost Diamonds.
ouch.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/27/wh ... descartes/
Scott Alexander wrote:As best I can tell, it is conflating a misunderstood version of rationalism (Descartes) with a misunderstood version of rationalism (Yudkowsky) and ending up with something unrelated to either, in the most bizarre possible way. But since there are commenters there who seem to agree with it, better nip this in the bud before it spreads.
It's nothing new for us that her commenters of course agree with everything, however, there you have it from someone else: “most bizarre possible way†yet people
agree.
PS_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
And here is some weirdness. The word below reads as "Z v a n ' s" yet it is rendered "Nec_V20's" in preview.
Nec_V20's Nec_V20's Nec_V20's Nec_V20's
Zvanatee's pretentious gibberish was discussed a bit a few pages ago. Also, we discovered the issue with the name subsitution: the FT's anti-Zimmerman filter replaces any word that starts with 'Z' and ends in 'N' to Nec_V20.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:09 pm
by KiwiInOz
Here is a quick lesson on lying techniques for those who are interested.
[youtube]awY1MRlMKMc[/youtube]
I would love anyone with the spoons to mash this video with statements from our esteemed Liar in Chief, PM Tony Abbott. YMMV.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:10 pm
by Badger3k
In my feed I saw that the huzvanatee has another post up about the same topic, a Q&A if I remember the title correctly. Haven't bothered to look at the tripe, but it is out. I doubt she has addressed any critiques (at least in any honest way). Just FYI.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:11 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Scented Nectar wrote:free thoughtpolice wrote:Funny thing Nec, some people don't pay attention to that tiny little square. I had a PM that I didn't notice for a few weeks even though I was on the forum every day.
I'm sure everyone is curious as to what the PM was...Care to share?
He was still trying to semi-coherently convince me that he had learned a secret lying technique from his grandfather and tried to explain what it was. The errors in his attempt at logic were glaring, but I'm not going to waste my time explaining why I think so if he reposts it here.
OK, Nec was kind enough to PM me and it was just a rerun. My voracious curiousity has been quenched. :drool:
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:11 pm
by bovarchist
I'm pretty sure that this post is Peezus' version of pulling a girl's ponytail. He knows Megan Fox is his soul-mate.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:13 pm
by Steersman
jimthepleb wrote:Excellent article on gamergate and the larger Social Justice debate.
http://gamergate.me/2014/11/war-on-humanism/
The author frames the opposition as Post-Structuralist rather than Post-Modernist.
Interesting read so far.
Interesting read - at least on skimming.
But maybe of some interest, and not known by all and sundry, is the fact that most of the individual tweets quoted in the article were by one Jonathan McIntosh who
Milo Yiannopoulos identifies as Sarkeesian's producer.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:13 pm
by Nec_V20
Steersman wrote:Nec_V20 wrote:John Greg wrote:Knock it off, Nec. Just knock it the fuck off.
Where the hell do you get off with some crock of shit like this?
....
No I am not going to "knock off" something which she took to the next level.
I don't mind animosity, but I draw the line at deliberate mischaracterisation.
That's a bit of a hoot considering that "lying" might be construed as "deliberate mischaracterization". Something you insist is one of your "claims to fame":
Nec_V20 wrote:The beauty of it is that neither you nor anyone else will ever be able to catch me out in my lies and I find that really amusing.
I also said "I lie perfectly" and I thought that one of the brainiacs here would have sussed out that the claim negates the statement itself.
I can however make that statement with no fear of contradiction.
Seriously, you guys still can't work it out?
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:13 pm
by Tigzy
Aneris wrote:Stephanie Zvans
“Why I Am Not A Rationalist†(frozen) piece got some critique from Slate Star Codex...
Scott Alexander wrote:
Imagine that somebody wrote:
- Some of my friends support Ron Paul. I think that’s wrong. After all, he’s a libertarian, and Wikipedia says a libertarian is a person who believes in free will. But free will is impossible in a deterministic universe. Ron Paul’s belief in free will is clearly why there are so few Swiss people among Ron Paul supporters, since Swiss people are Calvinists and so understand determinism better.
This is sort of how I feel reading Why I Am Not A Rationalist on Almost Diamonds.
ouch.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/27/wh ... descartes/
Scott Alexander wrote:As best I can tell, it is conflating a misunderstood version of rationalism (Descartes) with a misunderstood version of rationalism (Yudkowsky) and ending up with something unrelated to either, in the most bizarre possible way. But since there are commenters there who seem to agree with it, better nip this in the bud before it spreads.
It's nothing new for us that her commenters of course agree with everything, however, there you have it from someone else: “most bizarre possible way†yet people
agree.
I just tweeted the cow a link to the article, mostly cos I know it'll really wind her up. :D
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:17 pm
by bovarchist
BlueShiftRhino wrote:The real Jews of fantasy and sci-fi are the Jedi.
Hello? Ferengi?
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:17 pm
by Nec_V20
free thoughtpolice wrote:Scented Nectar wrote:free thoughtpolice wrote:Funny thing Nec, some people don't pay attention to that tiny little square. I had a PM that I didn't notice for a few weeks even though I was on the forum every day.
I'm sure everyone is curious as to what the PM was...Care to share?
He was still trying to semi-coherently convince me that he had learned a secret lying technique from his grandfather and tried to explain what it was. The errors in his attempt at logic were glaring, but I'm not going to waste my time explaining why I think so if he reposts it here.
OK, Nec was kind enough to PM me and it was just a rerun. My voracious curiousity has been quenched. :drool:
Sheesh, it's not like it's fucking rocket science and I expected someone to work out what I was meaning within a post or two.
And yet here we are.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:22 pm
by piero
I also said "I lie perfectly" and I thought that one of the brainiacs here would have sussed out that the claim negates the statement itself.
I don't see how the claim negates the statement: "I lie perfectly" is not self-referential. It could be taken to mean "when I lie, I lie perfectly."
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:35 pm
by Nec_V20
piero wrote:I also said "I lie perfectly" and I thought that one of the brainiacs here would have sussed out that the claim negates the statement itself.
I don't see how the claim negates the statement: "I lie perfectly" is not self-referential. It could be taken to mean "when I lie, I lie perfectly."
See inbox
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:38 pm
by Nec_V20
piero wrote:I also said "I lie perfectly" and I thought that one of the brainiacs here would have sussed out that the claim negates the statement itself.
I don't see how the claim negates the statement: "I lie perfectly" is not self-referential. It could be taken to mean "when I lie, I lie perfectly."
The fact that I say it would mean that I would be telling the truth in stating "I lie perfectly" although the fact of the matter is that I have lied perfectly up to now.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:45 pm
by free thoughtpolice
bovarchist wrote:BlueShiftRhino wrote:The real Jews of fantasy and sci-fi are the Jedi.
Hello? Ferengi?
I thought they were stereotypical "Yankee Traders".
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:48 pm
by Nec_V20
free thoughtpolice wrote:bovarchist wrote:BlueShiftRhino wrote:The real Jews of fantasy and sci-fi are the Jedi.
Hello? Ferengi?
I thought they were stereotypical "Yankee Traders".
Well you know the old one about what you get when you cross a Ferengi with a Borg?
A Scientologist.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:50 pm
by Pitchguest
jimthepleb wrote:Excellent article on gamergate and the larger Social Justice debate.
http://gamergate.me/2014/11/war-on-humanism/
The author frames the opposition as Post-Structuralist rather than Post-Modernist.
Interesting read so far.
Thanks for the link.
I don't think I've ever seen those tweets by McIntosh (or I've forgotten about them), but is he being serious? Is he saying that players having less control is better than more control? So, turn them all into interactive movies, essentially? No wonder he doesn't like video games.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:51 pm
by Aneris
Tigzy wrote:I just tweeted the cow a link to the article, mostly cos I know it'll really wind her up. :D
You're as edgy as Dan Fincke
:D
Scott Alexander's rebuttal to Stephanie Zvan's post I linked to the other day that took swipes indirectly at less...
http://fb.me/3mfbIhsUR
currently enjoying...
[youtube]enStpI6AdCM[/youtube]
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:52 pm
by jugheadnaut
piero wrote:I also said "I lie perfectly" and I thought that one of the brainiacs here would have sussed out that the claim negates the statement itself.
I don't see how the claim negates the statement: "I lie perfectly" is not self-referential. It could be taken to mean "when I lie, I lie perfectly."
The ignoramus is equating "I lie perfectly" with "Everything I say is a lie". "Perfect liar" is self-consistent. It would mean someone who, when they choose, can say things that they know are false but people listening will nonetheless tend to believe. Of course, he can, and probably will, say this mistake is part of the ruse. But his game right now is probably a deluded idea of revenge. His addled mind is frequently confused by what people's real meaning and intent are, so he tries to do the same.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:53 pm
by katamari Damassi
Steersman wrote:jimthepleb wrote:Excellent article on gamergate and the larger Social Justice debate.
http://gamergate.me/2014/11/war-on-humanism/
The author frames the opposition as Post-Structuralist rather than Post-Modernist.
Interesting read so far.
Interesting read - at least on skimming.
But maybe of some interest, and not known by all and sundry, is the fact that most of the individual tweets quoted in the article were by one Jonathan McIntosh who
Milo Yiannopoulos identifies as Sarkeesian's producer.
It was good. I have to admit that I often confuse or conflate post-modernism with post-structuralism.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:57 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Nec wrote:
Well you know the old one about what you get when you cross a Ferengi with a Borg?
A Scientologist.
:bjarte: I thought the punchline was "an Assburglar with big ears and bad teeth".
Depends on what year you hear it I guess.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:57 pm
by Nec_V20
jugheadnaut wrote:piero wrote:I also said "I lie perfectly" and I thought that one of the brainiacs here would have sussed out that the claim negates the statement itself.
I don't see how the claim negates the statement: "I lie perfectly" is not self-referential. It could be taken to mean "when I lie, I lie perfectly."
The ignoramus is equating "I lie perfectly" with "Everything I say is a lie". "Perfect liar" is self-consistent. It would mean someone who, when they choose, can say things that they know are false but people listening will nonetheless tend to believe. Of course, he can, and probably will, say this mistake is part of the ruse. But his game right now is probably a deluded idea of revenge. His addled mind is frequently confused by what people's real meaning and intent are, so he tries to do the same.
That's another twist in a pretzel that already is tied up in knots.
And yet still you miss the obvious.
To those I have sent a PM to, do you see what I mean?
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:06 pm
by dog puke
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Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:07 pm
by Nec_V20
free thoughtpolice wrote:Nec wrote:
Well you know the old one about what you get when you cross a Ferengi with a Borg?
A Scientologist.
:bjarte: I thought the punchline was "an Assburglar with big ears and bad teeth".
Depends on what year you hear it I guess.
I don't know so much about the bad breath, but I have lost a few teeth over the past couple of years or so.
It comes with the years.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:14 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
bovarchist wrote:BlueShiftRhino wrote:The real Jews of fantasy and sci-fi are the Jedi.
Hello? Ferengi?
I wish I had some come-back, such as "too obvious," but it's too obvious that you are correct. They're shorter than average, too. No personal data on erogenous pinnae.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:16 pm
by Nec_V20
dog puke wrote:-. . -.-. / ...- ....- ----- / .. ... / .- / -.. ..- -- -... / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / --- ..-. / - .... . / .... .. --. .... . ... - / --- .-. -.. . .-. .-.-.-
Really? V40?
Simple Morse code with only two symbols and you can't even get that right?
Sorry to say you have not made the team of infinite chimps who have been hired under RFC 2795 to write the works of Shakespeare.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:26 pm
by CaptainFluffyBunny
Nec, if you have to advertise that you're clever, you ain't. Give it a rest. Count your remaining teeth, raid the couch cushions for beer money and give us a rest.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:26 pm
by ConcentratedH2O, OM
jugheadnaut wrote:Southern wrote:BlueShiftRhino wrote:I, personally, don't see much difference between those Boobs for Science pictures and a majority of Cristina Rad videos....
Italian boos are sexies than Anglo-Saxon boobs.
Discuss.
http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/x/www ... F5VtB4.jpg
Best photo ever.
Also: discussion closed, no comebacks allowed.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:36 pm
by Nec_V20
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:Nec, if you have to advertise that you're clever, you ain't. Give it a rest. Count your remaining teeth, raid the couch cushions for beer money and give us a rest.
One problem with that plan, I don't have a couch - not even a chaise longue. I do have some really nice chairs though.
It is not a case of me advertising any cleverness, it is however about others proclaiming their abysmal stupidity.
I still have more teeth that your normal Red State extended family - not on average, but added together. So I think my blessings are pretty well taken care of as far as that goes.
Your concern trolling does touch me, but not half as touched as you must be to even consider addressing me in this fashion.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:36 pm
by dog puke
Nec_V20 wrote:dog puke wrote:-. . -.-. / ...- ..--- ----- / .. ... / .- / -.. ..- -- -... / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / --- ..-. / - .... . / .... .. --. .... . ... - / --- .-. -.. . .-. .-.-.-
Really? V40?
Simple Morse code with only two symbols and you can't even get that right?
Sorry to say you have not made the team of infinite chimps who have been hired under RFC 2795 to write the works of Shakespeare.
Thou appeareth nothing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:37 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Szvan says she is an "analyst" and not a philosopher yet shows her versatility by getting all profound:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... d-answers/
It is pathetic to see her grasp at trying to portray herself as a great feminist thinker.
Come on Steph! Dish out what ever dirt you can get on that hottie Christie Wilcox or just shut up because otherwise you are just boring.
Just look at your readership and comments. The very few people that read your amateur philosophy are unimpressed.
The only times you get readers to tour dismal blog are when you toss around gossip about sexual impropriety in the a/s or scifi community.
Get back on board or fade away, baby beluga.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:43 pm
by Southern
Anyone claiming to be a perfect liar and having a perfect technique for lying and not on politics is a liar. And a bad one, to booth.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:44 pm
by Nec_V20
dog puke wrote:Nec_V20 wrote:dog puke wrote:-. . -.-. / ...- ..--- ----- / .. ... / .- / -.. ..- -- -... / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / --- ..-. / - .... . / .... .. --. .... . ... - / --- .-. -.. . .-. .-.-.-
Really? V40?
Simple Morse code with only two symbols and you can't even get that right?
Sorry to say you have not made the team of infinite chimps who have been hired under RFC 2795 to write the works of Shakespeare.
Thou appeareth nothing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
The Bard wrote:
"Brevity is the soul of wit"
In your case I think it could be expanded to "Brevity of the soul and of the wit".
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:49 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
Svan and many others are really having a hard time with: “Date rape is bad. Stranger rape at knifepoint is worse. If you think that’s an endorsement of date rape, go away and learn how to think.†They are going to keep bringing it up (in trickier ways, as they layers on top of the original shit) for a long time.
I'm so tempted at times to suggest that it's due to the fact that they are at zero risk of being date-raped, but that would be unfair. True, but unfair. Pretend that I didn't bring it up, please.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:52 pm
by Nec_V20
Southern wrote:Anyone claiming to be a perfect liar and having a perfect technique for lying and not on politics is a liar. And a bad one, to booth.
I have the feeling that you gave that statement as much thought as you did to its spelling.
And before you whine, English is my second language.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:53 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
I'm assuming that people saw the Oafie post setting up a smear against Michael Nugent for something Sinn Fein may have done. Maybe she was looking forward to a new MN post as much as I was. We are joined in our mutual disappointment.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:11 pm
by Steersman
katamari Damassi wrote:Steersman wrote:jimthepleb wrote:Excellent article on gamergate and the larger Social Justice debate.
http://gamergate.me/2014/11/war-on-humanism/
The author frames the opposition as Post-Structuralist rather than Post-Modernist.
Interesting read so far.
Interesting read - at least on skimming.
But maybe of some interest, and not known by all and sundry, is the fact that most of the individual tweets quoted in the article were by one Jonathan McIntosh who
Milo Yiannopoulos identifies as Sarkeesian's producer.
It was good. I have to admit that I often confuse or conflate post-modernism with post-structuralism.
Can't say that I've got a good handle on either - pretty convoluted at the best of times if not outright idiocy, at least the former as a review by
Dawkins suggests.
But what seems "problematic" is that both still seem to have some currency - as the GamerGate article suggests, and as does the article linked in this tweet exchange I had recently:
From the article:
Elizabeth Smith wrote:The women’s narratives are viewed through a postmodern lens that draws on the work of Foucault and his feminist contemporaries. Specifically utilising Butler’s notion of overplay and Foucault’s later work on ethics, I argue that there are possibilities for women in the sex industry to (re)create their ethical substances – or senses of self – in ways that allow them to resist appropriating dominant and stigmatising discourses about who they are, both as sex workers and as women.
:?
Though there is maybe a grain or two of truth in some of their blatherings. For instance, consider this tweet from that GamerGate article:
http://gamergate.me/wp-content/uploads/ ... age-16.png
The implication there being, apparently, that the culture itself is some sort of autonomous entity that is capable of imposing or inducing certain behaviour patterns on its members - a perspective or philosophy that is apparently prevalent in sociology, and which Pinker elaborates on in some detail in his
The Blank Slate. While one might argue that that is a misapprehension or reification - asserting that the abstraction of the behaviour of all individuals has substance and reality on its own - there is maybe some remote possibility that that collection is an
emergent property of sorts that has some limited causal efficacy of its own - sort of like the coupled metronomes I've discussed in some detail here earlier. Or sort of like consciousness itself that seems to "emerge" - as if by magic, so to speak - out of the supposedly unconscious operations of "simple" neurons. Curious & curiouser as Alice used to say .... :-)
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:23 pm
by Parody Accountant
Holy fuck. Why didn't you assholes tell me that the Replacements were pretty much the best band ever?
I've devoured their first four LP's in a row. Plus booze.
Still though, it's like discovering VU, X, Flaming Lips, Chris Knox, Social D, The Feelies, etc... all at once.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:24 pm
by CaptainFluffyBunny
Nec_V20 wrote:CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:Nec, if you have to advertise that you're clever, you ain't. Give it a rest. Count your remaining teeth, raid the couch cushions for beer money and give us a rest.
One problem with that plan, I don't have a couch - not even a chaise longue. I do have some really nice chairs though.
It is not a case of me advertising any cleverness, it is however about others proclaiming their abysmal stupidity.
I still have more teeth that your normal Red State extended family - not on average, but added together. So I think my blessings are pretty well taken care of as far as that goes.
Your concern trolling does touch me, but not half as touched as you must be to even consider addressing me in this fashion.
Did I address you impertinently, your Douchebaginess? You test the pit, and are found lacking. A good troll is amusing, clever and hard to detect. You are but like unto a genital wart upon a SJW, obvious but denied.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:24 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
My impression of Pinker on these sorts of issues is greatly determined by his "the mind is what the brain does" followed by a near refusal to discuss the issue further.
Best thing he ever did, even if it wasn't original.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:29 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
Parody Accountant wrote:Holy fuck. Why didn't you assholes tell me that the Replacements were pretty much the best band ever?
Now go watch The Replacement Killers for one of the best man/woman hit-man/chick relationships evah!
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:29 pm
by Parody Accountant
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Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:30 pm
by Parody Accountant
BlueShiftRhino wrote:Parody Accountant wrote:Holy fuck. Why didn't you assholes tell me that the Replacements were pretty much the best band ever?
Now go watch The Replacement Killers for one of the best man/woman hit-man/chick relationships evah!
Fuck you into the sky.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:38 pm
by Nec_V20
Scented Nectar wrote:comhcinc wrote:Nec_V20 wrote:You can't be too interested in the answer to your question otherwise you would have opened the PM I sent.
Scented Nectar wrote:No, I didn't even know there was a pm waiting. I'll look later. Meanwhile, you fucking idiot, don't bring a public conversation private and expect me to continue the topic in a one on one with you. What the fuck is the matter with you? Answer it here, in the thread. If you even have an answer, that is, and not just more garbled nonsense.
He pm'ed you? That's fucking creepy.
And puzzling and boring. He's getting very predictable, and his posts are all sounding the same. He knows full well he's unlikeable, that he's unable/unwilling to discuss anything truthfully or logically, and that he's an asshole who pretends his personality flaws are aspergers. Why the fuck is he here? Hard up for company much? Maybe he's into humiliation or something and tricking strangers into giving it to him. Why else would someone keep making themselves look stupid so much? I will not reply to his idiocy any more. I don't put anyone on ignore, but I sure can skim past stuff. :)
Seriously, if I want your opinion, then I'll give it to you.
If I recall correctly, aren't you the one who tells others that not overstep the boundaries of their professional competence? Just asking, because there are some videos out there with you saying exactly that.
As far as I know Psychology is not on your résumé, it is however on mine (from the University of Bonn). So take your own advice that you lavishly give to creationists when they meander onto your turf and keep your extraneous psychological counsel to yourself.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:40 pm
by Steersman
BlueShiftRhino wrote:My impression of Pinker on these sorts of issues is greatly determined by his "the mind is what the brain does" followed by a near refusal to discuss the issue further.
Best thing he ever did, even if it wasn't original.
I thought his discussion, in his
How the Mind Works, of Penrose's
The Emperor's New Mind - "how's
that for in-your-face impugnment!" - was rather superficial and dogmatic if not actually narrow-minded. For instance, he said:
Pinker wrote:The computational theory fits so well into our understanding of the world that, in trying to overthrow it, Penrose had to reject most of contemporary neuroscience, evolutionary biology, and physics! [my emphasis; pg 98]
But, from my recollection, Penrose said nothing of the sort; he only said that "contemporary physics" was incomplete. And that his point was that fine details can have very broad and far-reaching effects - as the theories of relativity and quantum physics rather convincingly prove.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:40 pm
by fuzzy
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:44 pm
by Steersman
fuzzy wrote:
:lol: "The foregoing has been a paid political announcement" ....
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:44 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
Sorry, Steersman, but I hardly remember the book. I was remembering his standard colloquium talk before the book, which was my first exposure to "the mind is what the brain does."
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:46 pm
by CaptainFluffyBunny
And a swing and miss by Nec_v20. Fuzzy wraps it up.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:47 pm
by Nec_V20
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:Nec_V20 wrote:CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:Nec, if you have to advertise that you're clever, you ain't. Give it a rest. Count your remaining teeth, raid the couch cushions for beer money and give us a rest.
One problem with that plan, I don't have a couch - not even a chaise longue. I do have some really nice chairs though.
It is not a case of me advertising any cleverness, it is however about others proclaiming their abysmal stupidity.
I still have more teeth that your normal Red State extended family - not on average, but added together. So I think my blessings are pretty well taken care of as far as that goes.
Your concern trolling does touch me, but not half as touched as you must be to even consider addressing me in this fashion.
Did I address you impertinently, your Douchebaginess? You test the pit, and are found lacking. A good troll is amusing, clever and hard to detect. You are but like unto a genital wart upon a SJW, obvious but denied.
The fact that you address me at all is impertinent but what can I say, I'm a generous person.
I believe in a site where every orifice should be allowed to exude diarrhoea and I must say you are taking full advantage of that.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:47 pm
by jugheadnaut
Nec_V20 wrote:
Your concern trolling does touch me, but not half as touched as you must be to even consider addressing me in this fashion.
And what a surprise, he doesn't know what 'concern trolling' means.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:49 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
Why should he know what concern trolling is when so many of you have no fucking clue about feeding trolls?
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:51 pm
by Nec_V20
fuzzy wrote:
You just got to love Pugs, I had two of them and they punch way above their weight.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:52 pm
by Steersman
BlueShiftRhino wrote:Sorry, Steersman, but I hardly remember the book. I was remembering his standard colloquium talk before the book, which was my first exposure to "the mind is what the brain does."
No problemo - one of his books that I've broken down and bought (I generally check them out of the library - several times - and only buy them if they're particularly good), and which is extensively annotated. I think it a fantastic book and was one of my main entry points into the field and genre. But, as mentioned, I think he misses an important concept and perspective or two.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:53 pm
by Nec_V20
jugheadnaut wrote:Nec_V20 wrote:
Your concern trolling does touch me, but not half as touched as you must be to even consider addressing me in this fashion.
And what a surprise, he doesn't know what 'concern trolling' means.
Unfortunately your lack of cognition does not surprise me in the least.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:57 pm
by BlueShiftRhino
I taught a freshman seminar based on How the Mind Works, so I'm embarrassed by how little I remember. The class turned into a hilarious series of "just-so" stories, such as the adaptiveness of PMS bitchiness, that I had to suppress laughing along with the frat boys a lot of the time.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:00 pm
by NoGodsEver
Parody Accountant wrote:Holy fuck. Why didn't you assholes tell me that the Replacements were pretty much the best band ever?
I've devoured their first four LP's in a row. Plus booze.
Still though, it's like discovering VU, X, Flaming Lips, Chris Knox, Social D, The Feelies, etc... all at once.
Because it's common knowledge?
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:01 pm
by Nec_V20
BlueShiftRhino wrote:Why should he know what concern trolling is when so many of you have no fucking clue about feeding trolls?
:lol:
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:01 pm
by jugheadnaut
BlueShiftRhino wrote:Why should he know what concern trolling is when so many of you have no fucking clue about feeding trolls?
Sorry, you're right. I was diligently observing the "do not feed the trolls" rule until the last hour. Somehow it got into my head that a bit of accurate ridicule might help ward him off. It works sometimes, but not with severe aspie trolls, who can just feed off of it in creating their own reality.
Whoops, am I still feeding the troll? That's definitely the last time.
Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:02 pm
by Parody Accountant
NoGodsEver wrote:Parody Accountant wrote:Holy fuck. Why didn't you assholes tell me that the Replacements were pretty much the best band ever?
I've devoured their first four LP's in a row. Plus booze.
Still though, it's like discovering VU, X, Flaming Lips, Chris Knox, Social D, The Feelies, etc... all at once.
Because it's common knowledge?
NOW YOU TELL ME. FFS I'M 31. COULDA HELPED ME OUT EARLIER?!?
What the fuck, amazing shit. Going to bed, because I know half/most you don't music the same way. You like what you like, it's cool.