Richard Carrier shooting more blanks with his intellectual artillery on his Primer of 4th wave feminism post:
abear says
April 5, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Richard Carrier writes:
" This is because the feminism culturally communicated to people is largely a mythical creation of feminism’s enemies, rather than what is really going on among feminists themselves."
There are plenty of people that consider themselves feminists that say and do things that discredit feminism such that it doesn’t need “enemies†to give it bad PR. Take Andrea Dworkin. twisty faster, witchwind, or Hugo Schwyzer.
Likewise, “feminism†has lots of disagreement in its’ ranks. Women like Camille Paglia or Christina Hoff Sommers get a lot of criticism from the more radfem types. Also there is the TERF faction that whip up more than a little controversy.
You can’t blame the bad behavior of some feminists on outsiders, do you?
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Richard Carrier says
April 13, 2015 at 2:26 pm
Said the man who ignored literally everything I have ever written about this subject.
And who is so foolishly deceived by MRA propaganda, he actually thinks Sommers isn’t actually an anti-feminist.
And who thinks Dworkin hasn’t been dead since forever.
And who thinks the Sad Puppies aren’t pathetic whining asshats.
What is laughable is it took him about a week to come up with this dishonest non-answer.
He decides to read my mind and tell me what my opinions are- I must be an enemy because I pointed out a stupid thing he said that he couldn't honestly defend.
People that call themselves feminists that he disagrees with are not real feminists.
Andrea Dworkin is dead so it doesn't count that 4th wave feminists often agree with her loony misandrist ravings.
He conveniently ignored modern feminists like twisty faster, witchwind, and Hugo Schwyzer*. Are they false feminist MRA propagandists like Christina Hoff Sommers or are they real feminists that he agrees with and aren't at all embarrassing?
I thought I would put my rebuttal up here because I don't care to wait for his response, which would more than likely be another ad hominem attack claiming my mind is poisoned by MRAs or just incapable of understanding his profound philosophy.
* Gee I wonder why he didn't want to talk about Hugo?
