Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[KiwiInOz]

Service Dog - if that is for reals your life then set up a Patron or something so that we can buy you a bloody sleeping bag or at least one of those air freshener things to hang from your mirror. You have a way with words that is compelling, and a story that is worth telling.

[KiwiInOz]

snip comment from that fearless warrior for justice, another lurker

I thought the "She doxxed herself" claim from the fact that she signed up to the freethoughtsblog forum with her real email address. And if the admins of free thought blogs have access to your email, well fuck, the whole world does too now.

I found a link (can't recall where) to a forum in which ST posts her nym and her real name. So, the 'self-doxxing' claim is not totally without merit. However, it's not clear whether this forum post would have become widely visible if it weren't for the actions of FTB.

Just as long as the same rules apply to Justin Vacula.

[dog puke]

So PeeZus has just called Nuggers "a demented fuckwit"? I think that could be classified as burning bridges, no?

Perhaps... let's look at the evidence:

Facts:

1) We know (thanks to Ophie B. ) that 'fuckwit' is not an epithet, so here PeeZus is exonerated. :naughty:
2) But 'demented' does sound a bit neurotypical/ableist. :think:

Conclusion:

Michael Nugent actively encourages, spawns, hosts, promotes and cultivates all rapists, misogynists, harassers and not nice people. And he burns bridges too.

[dog puke]

http://i.imgur.com/H1bnCkb.png

[subbie1957]

Myers comments on Nugent's most recent post. Try to guess which of the six points he's focused on.

http://i.imgur.com/kKFqxoq.jpg

http://www.freezepage.com/1416372759EBVDSENXBA

It's almost as if he didn't bother reading the punchline.

Has Peezus prevented an investigation?

Anybody reading Michael's quotes of Peezus can see for themselves that Peezus wanted no investigation. he writes that an investigation could have destroyed his career.

But with his newly invented time-machine, he has launched an investigation - the very thing he claimed he had to stop because it could have hurt him.

[Skep tickle]

Get scrolling finger ready, unless you're interested in my sad tale of not protecting my ID online. Well, not "sad" so much as a cautionary tale of what can happen when your name's a little unique & you aren't as tech savvy as the ideal internet user should be & luckily you don't live somewhere where people will actually target you for being an atheist but unfortunately there could actually be RL ramifications for some people with whom you work, oh and you end up one of the targets of the A/S Heathers' rage, while they claim, ironically, to be sooo totally concerned about women being harassed in A/S.

[.quote="another lurker"]Kitty just doxxed skep AGAIN. I flagged the comment. Someone should email Hemant and ask him to either give her a stern warning or, as KD suggested, ban her ass. [./quote]

What is the actual context they're using to support the 'she doxxed herself' narrative? I thought the course of events ran from ST mentioning her first name and obliquely where she worked, giving Svan enough details to put 2 and 2 together [a challenging mathematical equation for her no doubt] and doxx her full name, after which ST basically said 'yes she doxxed me' confirmation on heathen-hub?

I thought the "She doxxed herself" claim from the fact that she signed up to the freethoughtsblog forum with her real email address. And if the admins of free thought blogs have access to your email, well fuck, the whole world does too now.

I found a link (can't recall where) to a forum in which ST posts her nym and her real name. So, the 'self-doxxing' claim is not totally without merit. However, it's not clear whether this forum post would have become widely visible if it weren't for the actions of FTB.

Near as I can tell, & remember, it's like this:
1) I originally posted at FtB at Zvan's, using my first name, a couple of years ago (defending a woman, an online friend for whom English is not her first language, who was defending a woman, who defended Gurdur, when Gurdur was Zvan's WoW)

2) I used that first-name logon and skeptixx in overlapping time periods at various blogs at FTB, because I couldn't always logon under the account w/ my name and because I was starting to get a little nervous about some of the FTB bloggers; each of those was associated with an email account which includes some or all of my name.

Someone, probably Zvan, pointed out w/ the Benson/Zvan doxxing in about 8/2013 that I used both (name & nym) in 1 thread & pointed from one to the other; I'm not sure why I did that, as it seems quite shortsighted, particularly in retrospect.

Also, Zvan pointed out that if you search my first name & atheist, my full name pops up right away, multiple hits*.

Someone else at FTB, a commenter, pointed out later that whichever of those was through Gravatar & by hovering on the avatar one can see the associated email address.

3) I used Skep tickle at A+ forum until banned, then here, then at some point used it at FTB (associated with a throw-away email), and don't recall trying to hide it being the same snarky poster as skeptixx

4) I used my real name in email & Skype discussions with Michael Nugent & Zvan's moderator (who prefers not to have her name posted at the 'Pit, which I will honor) and one of the email addresses that includes my full name; however, I don't have reason to suspect that that provided information to FTB bloggers that they didn't already have from my logon information in (2) above.

5) After Zvan & Benson dragged me through the mud under my real name in about 8/2013, I did post in the comments at Gurdur's open letter post at Heathen Hub acknowledging my name. I don't intend to have them own my name & steal its use from me, but on the other hand I would really rather not use it for online (vs real life) stuff. I've gone in to the reasons before.

6) Zvan, I think it was, pointed out that my full name appears online in association with [my local] Atheists organization and therefore concluded that I was lying about wanting to keep my name & atheism separate & that I had doxxed myself, apparently.

*History is that I was closeted (as an atheist) for more than 30 years, and that I used to only use the internet for email & news. Then in 2006 I saw the WSJ front page story about Hemant Mehta, was amazed that an atheist would be "out", checked out the Christian-atheist dialog blog set up by the former pastor who'd bought Hemant's soul, gulped, got involved, and found it really interesting & useful & thought-provoking. Not realizing there could be long-term consequences, I used my first name there, then later was interviewed by that former pastor & said he could put my full name on that file, again being naive about potential find-a-bility & consequences.

Stemming from the experience at that site, I got involved in 2 related sites that sprang up (including the forum at Friendly Atheist when it first started), then branched out to other atheist/skeptic sites, switching from first name to a nym around 2008 or 2009. I also got involved for the first time in [my local] skeptic meetup then atheist meetup. Soon after, a friend from the skeptic meetup nominated me for the Board of [my local] atheist group, which is a 501(c)(3). I agreed to the nomination, & was elected. I've been on the Board for 4 non-continuous yrs since then. I don't know that my name has to be on that organization's website, but the identity of Board members of nonprofit corporations is public information, on file with the state, etc. I agreed to have my name on the group's website (gulping a little), but not to having my photo posted, figuring that would leave it a little unclear if patients found the site whether it was me or someone w/ same name.

So, yeah, it's been out there. I just would really prefer not to link it with A/S online if possible because of the low public opinion of atheism wrt morals and while I think that implicit association needs to go the way of the dodo bird, I don't care to be a sacrificial lamb in that effort, because of who else could be affected.

If they have an argument to make with me, they are welcome to make the argument and allow response. AFAICT the use of my name is for some other purpose - some combination of punishment (retribution for what they feel have been heinous acts), perhaps a show of power, & even to control others by impressing on them the punishment they could "earn" if they cross these bloggers.

Sorry so long. 'Night.

[Brive1987]

Myers comments on Nugent's most recent post. Try to guess which of the six points he's focused on.

http://i.imgur.com/kKFqxoq.jpg

http://www.freezepage.com/1416372759EBVDSENXBA

Equivocating lies. He ran and begged for a full, open, transparent independent inquiry? Bwhahahah.

[Brive1987]

Skep, of course it is about shaming and punishment. They simply look for lose thread to give themselves permission.

It is blatantly obvious that you wish for your online activities to be associated with a nym.

Doxxing is simple to define. Its the calculated publishing of personal information, outside the context in which it was provided, with the objective of causing RL damage, where the target desires to operate under a nym.

[Brive1987]

Actually you all have PZ wrong. He is very concerned about online anonymity.

You see, it's a matter of principle.

http://i.imgur.com/RnzlAX7.jpg

[subbie1957]

Myers comments on Nugent's most recent post. Try to guess which of the six points he's focused on.

http://i.imgur.com/kKFqxoq.jpg

http://www.freezepage.com/1416372759EBVDSENXBA

Equivocating lies. He ran and begged for a full, open, transparent independent inquiry? Bwhahahah.

To be fair to Myers, perhaps a full, open , transparent independent inquiry in his university only lasts the 10 minutes that Myers was worried for.

Does his university know about this new admission by Myers - that university policy is to lock the girl away with friends of her aggressor while he goes to put his side of the story?

[subbie1957]

Did PeeZus (PBUH) really just claim that locking the girl away with colleagues of the person being investigated is 'proper procedure'?

I think he did.

Hey, PeeZus (PBUH) , get somebody to read your posts before you trash your university's reputation.

[Brive1987]

"She recanted and apologised"

Seems appropriate.

http://i.imgur.com/Wq0ePEM.jpg

[Brive1987]

Project Indiegogo is cruising through the $19,000s heading for the 20K touch-down.

[pajh]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Myers is such a misogynistic privileged shit, since when does the accused "invite" an investigation into themselves? When they feel they are the one with all the power perhaps?

I feel (given the current US college environment) that Myers has produced enough incriminating evidence to hang himself, it would be superb if someone like Myers was the first major casualty of this hysterical rape culture fightback.

[Diva Ex Machina]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Myers is such a misogynistic privileged shit, since when does the accused "invite" an investigation into themselves? When they feel they are the one with all the power perhaps?

I feel (given the current US college environment) that Myers has produced enough incriminating evidence to hang himself, it would be superb if someone like Myers was the first major casualty of this hysterical rape culture fightback.

The moment a woman with some clout inside the in group (Watson most likely) decides he's no longer useful or gets a bit upset with him, he'll be going down. First there will be anonymous rumours of sexual assault by an unnamed FtB blogger. Over time more info will 'leak' and more women will come forward. Eventually all of these incidents on Nugent's blog will be trotted out as proof that he was really never an ally of women to begin with.

[Tony Parsehole]

Could someone shoop the Taylor shirt onto my avatar?

No problem, mate:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7506/158 ... f20c_o.png

[Tony Parsehole]

I love how Parsehole has become the automatic suspect whenever someone finds something too crazy to be believed. Maybe in another decade, his name will replace Poe. "That's gotta be a Parsehole..."

That will be the day I shoot myself as life will have nothing left to offer me.

[Hunt]

:bjarte:

Hi

Thought you folks might appreciate this. Earlier today PZ posted a jab at some dude who made a very naive calculation on a person's chances of dying in the next year and suggested that by using an actuarial table he (PZ) had reduced his odd of dying from 1/130 to 1/192. Turns out PZ can't read an actuarial table as he chose the odds for a 57 year old female.

I was recently looking at actuarial tables in the wake of the US elections to see what the chances were of a Supreme Court judge dying in the next two years. Probably the biggest short term impact of the Republicans controlling the Senate is that Obama no longer would have his choice of SC justice replacement. If there's a vacancy, it will precipitate something of a crisis. If a conservative judge is being replaced, I think there's almost no chance of agreement and the spot will remain vacant at least until the next election. Even it it's a liberal judge being replaced I think there's a good chance at an impasse as the GOP will insist on a moderate and Obama will want a firebrand.

Anyway, here are estimates of death in the next two years for each judge based on this table:

Conservatives:
Scalia: 10%
Kennedy: 10%
Thomas: 3.5%
Roberts: 2%
Alito: 3%

Liberals:
Ginsburg: 9.5%
Breyer: 8%
Sotomayor: 1.3%
Kagan: 0.8%

Probability of at least one judge dying: ~40%
Probability of at least one conservative judge dying: ~26%
Probability of at least one liberal judge dying: ~18%

This is, at best, an estimate. Thomas likely has a significantly higher chance of death due to his race, as does Ginsburg due to her previous serious cancer. Roberts may be higher because of his seizure issues, and Sotomayor due to her weight. All the others likely have a lower probability of death due to good health.

Any chance we can add a 0 to Scalia?

Note to Secret Service: Just a joke! A joke! Sheesh, you guys are so serious.

[Kirbmarc]

The moment a woman with some clout inside the in group (Watson most likely) decides he's no longer useful or gets a bit upset with him, he'll be going down. First there will be anonymous rumours of sexual assault by an unnamed FtB blogger. Over time more info will 'leak' and more women will come forward. Eventually all of these incidents on Nugent's blog will be trotted out as proof that he was really never an ally of women to begin with.

I doubt that. They need his blog, it's pretty much the only popular platform they have. He's not Elyse. He can't be cast aside that easily.

They might be use the "accidents" to browbeat him into submission every once in a while if he steps out of line, but if PZ crashes and burns, so does Skepchick and pretty much all the SJW brigade within the Atheism/Skeptic movement.

[comhcinc]

The moment a woman with some clout inside the in group (Watson most likely) decides he's no longer useful or gets a bit upset with him, he'll be going down. First there will be anonymous rumours of sexual assault by an unnamed FtB blogger. Over time more info will 'leak' and more women will come forward. Eventually all of these incidents on Nugent's blog will be trotted out as proof that he was really never an ally of women to begin with.

I doubt that. They need his blog, it's pretty much the only popular platform they have. He's not Elyse. He can't be cast aside that easily.

They might be use the "accidents" to browbeat him into submission every once in a while if he steps out of line, but if PZ crashes and burns, so does Skepchick and pretty much all the SJW brigade within the Atheism/Skeptic movement.

I don't think either is likely to happen. They are a tight little cabal and as such protect their own. It would take something major to happen to break that up and frankly PZ just seems to boring a person to do anything like that.

Even if that were to happen it they would all announce they are moving to another blog group (skeptichic or whatever) and their minions would follow.

[Kirbmarc]

So PeeZus has just called Nuggers "a demented fuckwit"? I think that could be classified as burning bridges, no?

I'd say that all bridges were burnt when he accused Nugent of protecting rapists.

[Tony Parsehole]

Myers comments on Nugent's most recent post. Try to guess which of the six points he's focused on.

http://i.imgur.com/kKFqxoq.jpg

http://www.freezepage.com/1416372759EBVDSENXBA

I urge everybody to keep repeating the story of Myers being accused of rape as much as possible to anybody who will listen. It's obvious that he loathes it being mentioned yet he can't deny what he wrote.

[Tony Parsehole]

I personally enjoy Myers whining at this point. I love how pathetic he is.

/wicked

I wish I could use his tears to lube my masturbation session.

[comhcinc]

Myers comments on Nugent's most recent post. Try to guess which of the six points he's focused on.

http://i.imgur.com/kKFqxoq.jpg

http://www.freezepage.com/1416372759EBVDSENXBA

I urge everybody to keep repeating the story of Myers being accused of rape as much as possible to anybody who will listen. It's obvious that he loathes it being mentioned yet he can't deny what he wrote.

If I ever get a chance to do a Q&A session I am going to ask him why we should believe him instead of the victim. I was taught to always believe the victim, to not question the victim, believe the victim, do not believe the man especially if he is white and has any type of power over her, believe the victim.

[Snapfingers]

If one of the very talented shoopers could do PZ in a felating mermaids/hentai-tentacle-rape-Hawaii-shirt I would buy the person or persons one of those diet Sgt. Pepper sodas them americans like so much.

[Brive1987]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Personally I prefer calling human "females" women. Or has this been discussed? :mrgreen:

[Kirbmarc]

I don't think either is likely to happen. They are a tight little cabal and as such protect their own

Not always. They're ready to purge the ones that they deem to be too "problematic". But PZ is too much of a name with thin the "cabal" to get rid of him that easily, even if he openly attacked Watson or Benson (which is unlikely to happen any time soon).

Even if that were to happen it they would all announce they are moving to another blog group (skeptichic or whatever) and their minions would follow.

Maybe, but a rift within a rift would leave casualties on the ground. If PZ were to be blacklisted by the SJWs, some of the FTB minions would no doubt protest. The readership of skepchick or the other blog group where they would move would decline, and they would become another A+ forum, where five or ten regular members would deal with the occasional clueless newbies or "misogynistic trolls".

[Brive1987]

I doubt they'd dump PZ even if it could be proved he was an octopus fucking, rape-fiction loving, assault victim blaming, lying sack of doxxing shit.

[Kirbmarc]

I doubt they'd dump PZ even if it could be proved he was an octopus fucking, rape-fiction loving, assault victim blaming, lying sack of doxxing shit.

I doubt they'd dump PZ even if he publicly called Watson or Benson "cunts".

[Michael J]

The moment a woman with some clout inside the in group (Watson most likely) decides he's no longer useful or gets a bit upset with him, he'll be going down. First there will be anonymous rumours of sexual assault by an unnamed FtB blogger. Over time more info will 'leak' and more women will come forward. Eventually all of these incidents on Nugent's blog will be trotted out as proof that he was really never an ally of women to begin with.

I doubt that. They need his blog, it's pretty much the only popular platform they have. He's not Elyse. He can't be cast aside that easily.

They might be use the "accidents" to browbeat him into submission every once in a while if he steps out of line, but if PZ crashes and burns, so does Skepchick and pretty much all the SJW brigade within the Atheism/Skeptic movement.

I don't think either is likely to happen. They are a tight little cabal and as such protect their own. It would take something major to happen to break that up and frankly PZ just seems to boring a person to do anything like that.

Even if that were to happen it they would all announce they are moving to another blog group (skeptichic or whatever) and their minions would follow.

I think that even if he did something major it would still be forgiveness and hugs all around. Now these guys are pretty small in the SJW world. What would happen if one of the big names/groups outside of the FTB/Skepchic crowd takes a dislike to PZ?

Say if Anita takes a dislike to PZ and starts to talk about him being an accused rapist, protecting a rapist, watching tentacle rape porn (etc) and of course anybody who defends him is a misogynist or chill girl.

I think that the FTB crowd would then have a very tough decision to make, whether to jump ship or defend PZ and be hated by most of the skeptical community and most of the SJW community.

[piero]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Personally I prefer calling human "females" women. Or has this been discussed? :mrgreen:

Don't know whether it's ben discussed here, but I agree with you.
I've read somewhere that using "female" as an adjective is Ok, but using it as a noun is not, and I find that reasonable: "I was treated by a female doctor" = Ok; "The doctor was a female" = not Ok. In the latter case, "The doctor was a woman" is much better.

[piero]

I personally enjoy Myers whining at this point. I love how pathetic he is.

/wicked

I wish I could use his tears to lube my masturbation session.

With vitriol?

[Hunt]

Did PeeZus (PBUH) really just claim that locking the girl away with colleagues of the person being investigated is 'proper procedure'?

I think he did.

Hey, PeeZus (PBUH) , get somebody to read your posts before you trash your university's reputation.

It would be great to find out exactly what proper procedure is or was when this happened. (Where's Mykeru when you need him?) We don't know when this happened. We don't know what laws were in effect when it happened. But I think I speak for the entire Slymepit when I say that we are eagerly awaiting a full disclosure and long, meticulous, nerve racking, trying, and very, very overwrought discussion about it.

[comhcinc]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Personally I prefer calling human "females" women. Or has this been discussed? :mrgreen:

Don't know whether it's ben discussed here, but I agree with you.
I've read somewhere that using "female" as an adjective is Ok, but using it as a noun is not, and I find that reasonable: "I was treated by a female doctor" = Ok; "The doctor was a female" = not Ok. In the latter case, "The doctor was a woman" is much better.

I prefer more modern terms such as chic, ladyparts, sammich maker. You people need to get with the times.

[Michael J]

That's why I think that if you really wanted to break FTB up you could become a deep undercover troll and butter up all of the non FTB/Skepchick SJWs. After a while you can just drop that you think that PZ is a creep. When asked why just mention some of his many sins. Even make up some new ones.

[piero]

Myers said:

I had to work fast, because I knew that if it turned into a he-said-she-said story, it wouldn’t matter that she was lying, it could get dragged out into an investigation that would easily destroy my career, no matter that I was innocent.

Myers said:

Where the hell did that fantasy come from? In that incident, I went straight to the chair to invite an open investigation — that’s what you do when there’s an accusation. If I’d not gone to university officials immediately, and had instead tried to cover it up, there would be an appearance of guilt. Suddenly, in the minds of these fuckheads, reporting an incident becomes preventing an investigation.

Should we believe Myers or Myers?

Trick question! The answer is "We should believe the victim"!

[Tony Parsehole]

I prefer more modern terms such as chic, ladyparts, sammich maker. You people need to get with the times.

Or split-arse. That always goes down well at the domestic violence shelter I work at.

[comhcinc]

That's why I think that if you really wanted to break FTB up you could become a deep undercover troll and butter up all of the non FTB/Skepchick SJWs. After a while you can just drop that you think that PZ is a creep. When asked why just mention some of his many sins. Even make up some new ones.

I am willing to go off the grid and train one of my children as deep operative. I will need access to a secluded cabin in the woods, ten year supply of triple ply toilet paper, a print out of all of FtB; a cassette tape of Lover boy's greatest hits, a sample of Greta Christina's pubic hair, a roll of duct tape; and a subscription to Better Homes and Gardens.

[James Caruthers]

I doubt they'd dump PZ even if it could be proved he was an octopus fucking, rape-fiction loving, assault victim blaming, lying sack of doxxing shit.

I doubt they'd dump PZ even if he publicly called Watson or Benson "cunts".

Just look at how they still are buddy-buddy with Dillahunty after his little fracas with Atheism Plus. One which, as far as I can remember, he never truly apologized for. Say what you will about his attempts to cowardly rationalize why A+ was nuts but the concept of A+ was still brillo bananas, he never did get on hands and knees and prostrate himself before the raving SJW shit-throwing monkeys. No true, heartfelt apology for him, to be delivered on pain of doxxing and attempting to get him fired. Oh no!

For much less, much less, Skep had her name dragged through the muck and continues to.

Tribal motherfuckers.

Enough internet for one day, gonna go read Lovecraft and dream about tentacle rape monsters far more ethical than PZ.

[Southern]

I didn't care much for the first movie, so I haven't seen the second, but a friend of mine is a big fan of the books and she said that Katniss plays up the Peeta romance when they're on camera together because it's popular with the audience and endears her to them.

I'm not a fan, but I have a teenage daughter.

Katniss is required to play up the Peeta romance when on camera because that's the deal that she made with Snow at the end of the first book/movie. To avoid what she and Peeta did (at the end of the 74th Hunger Games) from becoming a huge embarrassment to the capital and Snow, she agree to keep playing at being love-sick with Peeta.

The Snow character is a bit more fleshed out in the book and almost sympathetic until mid-way through the second book. He is trying to hold an unworkable situation together. It's a parallel to end-stage Soviet Union, I believe - at least, that's how I took it.

Damn. I had to google to find who this Peeta character was, because I thought it might make these books/movies interesting. Turns out Peeta is a guy. Shattered dreams, I tell you. At least he could be a trap-looking guy with that name, you know.

[James Caruthers]

Broverbs Set 3: Rep 23: "And let thy glutes grace the bottom of the earth when squatting, like the soaring eagle who dives to the grass to catch its prey. For, it is he who comes from the deepest valley that climbs the highest mountain".

Only the v olkisch need apply to this reddit. Lumbersexuals and log-lifting OCD sloots are also welcome.

http://www.reddit.com/r/swoleacceptance/

[comhcinc]

Will you people quit talking about Twilig.....Hunger Games.

Geez go watch some Battle Royale.

[Richard Dworkins]

After Latsot's failure to convince anyone that it can function even as an SJWbot, we meet WMDkitty who reminded me so much of having the communication style of a child. "OMG how can you like 1D? The'yre like made of rape! Like that video where their singer Tony totally felt Iggy Azalea's boob?"

Then we have shirtstorm and this kind of victim feminism jumps the shark. Such a mean spirited attempt at complaint. Why? What does it gain you, how does it serve you? It's like that snide, joyless exhibition of Dunning Kruger's syndrome, Daria Morgendorffer became a role model. We skirt round it nowadays but if the fluevog fits...

Shirtstorm is just some people being bitches. Only happy when they can make others unhappy. I dub them The Miserabble.

Here's the thing. I'm out at a thing and end up watching to an interview with a young transgender woman who claims that she is biologically male, is sexually attracted to females but also feels that she herself is culturally a woman. She wants to dress like a woman and behave in a way she is comfortable with rather than putting on an act to pacify people who are rigidly set in the idea of a gender binary. She used the phrase gender gamut, which I liked.

Her explanation was clear, we've been stuck performing two gender roles based on specific cultural definitions of what those two genders signified and many people are not happy with performing roles they are unhappy or uncomfortable in.

Which is all fine, right? However aside from the occasional juvenile sniggers from the type of juveniles who snigger at all and sundry, who really cares? Well according to this woman she blamed Religion and, surprising, SJW's (though she didn't name them). Her gist was that that in the case of the SJW's they didn't seem interested in transgender issues. They were only interested in fomenting infighting while using the transgender cause as a shield to protect them from criticism while lashing out at all and sundry. Words to that effect. She called them "Haters."

So it seems that the SJW's are perhaps a problem within the transgender community. Makes sense, they are a problem everywhere else they turn up.

[Southern]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Myers is such a misogynistic privileged shit, since when does the accused "invite" an investigation into themselves? When they feel they are the one with all the power perhaps?

I feel (given the current US college environment) that Myers has produced enough incriminating evidence to hang himself, it would be superb if someone like Myers was the first major casualty of this hysterical rape culture fightback.

"Woman faculty person"... is that even proper English? It sounds stupid. "Woman" and "person" are nouns, aren't they? How the hell do you use two nouns to refer to the same subject? Is there something else that makes that acceptable, or that came right of Physioproffe's Grammar Revised Edition?

[SoylentAtheist]

AFAICT the use of my name is for some other purpose - some combination of punishment (retribution for what they feel have been heinous acts), perhaps a show of power, & even to control others by impressing on them the punishment they could "earn" if they cross these bloggers.

Punishment? What do you expect them to do? Something like post your name and employer and encourage readers to harass your place of employment?

[comhcinc]

AFAICT the use of my name is for some other purpose - some combination of punishment (retribution for what they feel have been heinous acts), perhaps a show of power, & even to control others by impressing on them the punishment they could "earn" if they cross these bloggers.

Punishment? What do you expect them to do? Something like post your name and employer and encourage readers to harass your place of employment?

Hahahahahahahahaha jokes on them I am totally out of work right now and my wife is willing to leave me at any hint of wrong doing and if that was to happen I would be homeless right as the cold start and am not even able to hobble to a bridge to sleep under. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :? :? :shock: :oops: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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[SoylentAtheist]

So PeeZus has just called Nuggers "a demented fuckwit"? I think that could be classified as burning bridges, no?

I'd say that all bridges were burnt when he accused Nugent of protecting rapists.

Nope. Nugent asked him for either proof or an apology. Nugent was explicitly offering pz an easy out for mouthing off the way he did. Even his 2nd or 3rd request for apologies were outs for pz.

But now, with the page of documentation, instead of an "OK, great let's get back to business," the best that pz can hope for is that Nugent will stop bringing it up and showing the rest of Europe and other Atheist/Skeptic leaders what a royal piece of shit pz is by slaughtering pz with his own words & actions.

[Southern]

AFAICT the use of my name is for some other purpose - some combination of punishment (retribution for what they feel have been heinous acts), perhaps a show of power, & even to control others by impressing on them the punishment they could "earn" if they cross these bloggers.

Punishment? What do you expect them to do? Something like post your name and employer and encourage readers to harass your place of employment?

They also (through Smellody and Stephat Slump) threatened to drop the doxx on Mykeru - Lah-den actually drop his (old) address, so the rabid idiots could go and harass the completelly oblivious people that probably lived there when the doxxing occurred.

[Tribble]

Myers comments on Nugent's most recent post. Try to guess which of the six points he's focused on.

http://i.imgur.com/kKFqxoq.jpg

http://www.freezepage.com/1416372759EBVDSENXBA

Equivocating lies. He ran and begged for a full, open, transparent independent inquiry? Bwhahahah.

He ran to tattle first and put himself into the 'story-telling' advantage by starting the narrative in a favorable light. It was a pre-emptive strike and one, IMO, any rational person would make if given the opportunity.

But that's not really the point. We talk about it in context of he preaches 'always believe the accuser' because the claims of rape are 'rarely lies.' Yet in many areas of inquiry into the accuracy and truthfulness of rape claims (case reviews, questionnaires, DNA studies) we have quality research that indicates that there is a huge problem with false accusations. Despite his denials.

The only thing the 'Pit is doing is to point out his double-standard. When he, or an in-group ally, is falsely accused, it shouldn't be believed because it is 'self-evident' that nobody who is a member of the 'in-group' could do such a thing. After all, they're the ones with the morals.

But if someone else (out-group) is accused, no matter how ludicrous the story, it must be believed because we know those 'out-group' people are 'just bad people, because...' So they would do that... Totally.

It's not the story. It's the hypocrisy of the blatant double-standard.

[Tribble]

I don't think either is likely to happen. They are a tight little cabal and as such protect their own

Not always. They're ready to purge the ones that they deem to be too "problematic". But PZ is too much of a name with thin the "cabal" to get rid of him that easily, even if he openly attacked Watson or Benson (which is unlikely to happen any time soon).

Even if that were to happen it they would all announce they are moving to another blog group (skeptichic or whatever) and their minions would follow.

Maybe, but a rift within a rift would leave casualties on the ground. If PZ were to be blacklisted by the SJWs, some of the FTB minions would no doubt protest. The readership of skepchick or the other blog group where they would move would decline, and they would become another A+ forum, where five or ten regular members would deal with the occasional clueless newbies or "misogynistic trolls".

Scientology didn't drop L. Ron Hubbard, no matter how embarrassing he became:

Hubbard was a blood brother of Montana's Blackfeet Indians at only like 4 -- or was it 6? (Um, no. Never happened.) Well, in 1924 at the age of 13 he became the youngest Eagle Scout in the U.S. (In 1924, the Boy Scouts didn't keep track of who was the youngest Eagle Scout, so Hubbard couldn't have known if that was true.) While still a teenager, he had extensive travels through Asia, and had profound discussions with holy men while few Westerners could penetrate these strange lands. (Actually, he made a couple of brief trips and complained about the "gooks" he found, and after a later trip, concluded, "The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here.") In college, at George Washington University in Washington D.C., the young Hubbard used his experiences in nuclear physics to launch his explorations into the mind. (Actually, he took only one class in atomic physics, and failed it. He left without a degree.) Well, he was too busy becoming a barnstorming pilot, one of the best in the country. (Actually, his pilot's license was only for gliders, not powered flight, and he didn't renew the license because he didn't have the money.) Later, in World War II, he commanded an anti-submarine vessel and sank two Japanese submarines off the Oregon coast. (Actually, he didn't sink anything, and he lost his command after shooting up some Mexican islands for gunnery practice.) He was injured severely during the war with machine-gun fire, which left him blind and lame, and he was twice declared dead. It was in search for a cure to his debilitating wounds that he healed himself and discovered the concepts that would become Dianetics. (Sigh. It was an ulcer that brought Hubbard low, not enemy fire. And even his military doctors considered him a pain in the ass.)

I think he'd really fit in at FTB as a member of "the Horde.' They're bunch of gullible liars who not only lie on this scale, but readily support the same load of crap out of the in-group and allies, too. It's got to be the least-thinking, most credulous place in the Universe at this point in time.

OTOH, poor Nec does 1/50th of this at the 'Pit and he becomes #1 on the 'ignored' list after a bunch of people gave him the run-up.

[piero]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Myers is such a misogynistic privileged shit, since when does the accused "invite" an investigation into themselves? When they feel they are the one with all the power perhaps?

I feel (given the current US college environment) that Myers has produced enough incriminating evidence to hang himself, it would be superb if someone like Myers was the first major casualty of this hysterical rape culture fightback.

"Woman faculty person"... is that even proper English? It sounds stupid. "Woman" and "person" are nouns, aren't they? How the hell do you use two nouns to refer to the same subject? Is there something else that makes that acceptable, or that came right of Physioproffe's Grammar Revised Edition?

"A female lecturer," if sex/gender are relevant; "a lecturer" if it's not. Bloody Americans and their faculties!

[pajh]

I quite like "a woman faculty person", obviously you can no longer describe someone as "female" because Ferengi or some shit.

Myers is such a misogynistic privileged shit, since when does the accused "invite" an investigation into themselves? When they feel they are the one with all the power perhaps?

I feel (given the current US college environment) that Myers has produced enough incriminating evidence to hang himself, it would be superb if someone like Myers was the first major casualty of this hysterical rape culture fightback.

"Woman faculty person"... is that even proper English? It sounds stupid. "Woman" and "person" are nouns, aren't they? How the hell do you use two nouns to refer to the same subject? Is there something else that makes that acceptable, or that came right of Physioproffe's Grammar Revised Edition?

Yeah exactly = PZ felt the need to convey the fact that the person he "invited to investigate" him had a vagina, but you can see how he struggles to find words that convey that using the current SJW lexicon. I mean if he leaves out the word person he's saying women aren't people isn't he?

I love also how his defense seems to be an almost textbook "Bitches be lying" and "Bitched be crazy" combination ... bravo Myers!

At mentioned at above, it's unlikely that the current band of in-group atheist bloggers will turn on him (unless there's real power to be gained somewhere and PZ jumps for it first). However, given the current anti-STEM SJW crap coming from the greater mob it would not take much for them to attack him - fat white privileged biology professor with a proven history of sexism and misogyny.

MC and Nugent have started this documentation - what we need is a definitive list of all the women PZ had harassed, belittled, bullied, shamed and mocked. After all as a privileged white western male he has to "shut up and listen" doesn't he? Does anyone have a definitive list of his attacks on women - From Rose and Abbie to Jaklyn and Skep Tickle - or do I need to enact the fucking labour myself?

[BarnOwl]

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MC and Nugent have started this documentation - what we need is a definitive list of all the women PZ had harassed, belittled, bullied, shamed and mocked. After all as a privileged white western male he has to "shut up and listen" doesn't he? Does anyone have a definitive list of his attacks on women - From Rose and Abbie to Jaklyn and Skep Tickle - or do I need to enact the fucking labour myself?

If you include his bullying and mocking interactions outside the internetz, the list will be longer.

It's no accident that Myers has that eye-rolling disgusted look of smug superiority in so many of the photos used for 'shoops.

[feathers]

If I ever get a chance to do a Q&A session I am going to ask him why we should believe him instead of the victim. I was taught to always believe the victim, to not question the victim, believe the victim, do not believe the man especially if he is white and has any type of power over her, believe the victim.

Also ask him, if false rape accusations are vanishingly rare, why he experienced one himself and dare not stay alone with any other female students for fear of repetition.

[Brive1987]

Alas you can only imagine.

[Ape+lust]

Alas you can only imagine.

Imagine these?

Strawkins pulled them together and put them in the Pit months ago. The outside world, as usual, is behind the curve.

[Ape+lust]

If I ever get a chance to do a Q&A session I am going to ask him why we should believe him instead of the victim. I was taught to always believe the victim, to not question the victim, believe the victim, do not believe the man especially if he is white and has any type of power over her, believe the victim.

Also ask him, if false rape accusations are vanishingly rare, why he experienced one himself and dare not stay alone with any other female students for fear of repetition.

Him, Thibeault, and Loftus. 3 out of the couple dozen original FtBers. It's like they were running rapist affirmative action over there.

[Ape+lust]

If I ever get a chance to do a Q&A session I am going to ask him why we should believe him instead of the victim. I was taught to always believe the victim, to not question the victim, believe the victim, do not believe the man especially if he is white and has any type of power over her, believe the victim.

Yup. Bu'leeeeeeeve first and hope you don't look idiotic later, like Greta here:

http://imgur.com/Th7zOX4.png

The next day, Ophelia posted excerpts from the "threats" and conceded they weren't threats. But go fuck yourself anyways, Johnny Gutierrez.

[Brive1987]

Damn that is desperate Canute level hope. I was imagining some new drunken wallowing.

Since when do you get to control people's party happy snaps? And how suspicious is it that she is memory-holing imagery from the night of boob-gate?

[JackSkeptic]

Kitty just doxxed skep AGAIN. I flagged the comment. Someone should email Hemant and ask him to either give her a stern warning or, as KD suggested, ban her ass.

What is the actual context they're using to support the 'she doxxed herself' narrative? I thought the course of events ran from ST mentioning her first name and obliquely where she worked, giving Svan enough details to put 2 and 2 together [a challenging mathematical equation for her no doubt] and doxx her full name, after which ST basically said 'yes she doxxed me' confirmation on heathen-hub?

It's a straight lie. She was doxxed using information that should have remained confidential. FtB have no integrity or decency.

I still wonder why Ally Fogg and a few others stay there, they are also being smeared by association with a doxxing site. FtB is becoming a laughing stock amongst gamers who have heard of it. It comes up sometimes during conversations as a typical SJW place that is named the opposite of what it is (against free thought)

It bears repeating that once a site is known as a doxxing site, as FtB is, it instantly puts itself into junk status. So WMDkitty is doing a lot of damage. It is a shame it is as Skep's expense.