If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Sunder wrote:

Beta Neckbeard wrote:Lose the name, but leave the comment?

http://imgur.com/a0f2CY6.jpg

Of course not. Good moderation, Peezus. :bjarte:

In the unmoderated Thunderdome that is totally never moderated.

Except when it is moderated.

Which is all the time.

Thunderdome! Two men enter, one man leaves is banned!

NobleLeatherstrap wrote:

JackSkeptic wrote:

JacquesCuze wrote:Hey um, there's a few people I haven't seen at the pit recently. Hope all is well to the Kitty overlord.

I am even left wondering where John Calhoun is. He last posted 10 days ago.

I'm a bit worried about our Overlord too. He seemed a bit down in some of his recent posts.

Also, welcome to all the new people.

Thank you for the warm welcome Jack.

Its nice to be in the pit. Even if there are a lot of meanie pants who need to collectively check their reasoning and comedic privileges.

Edited photos of people that are totes hilarious?

Questioning conclusions derived from logical fallacies?

Cause PTSD much?

I'll say it louder this time...MEANIE PANTS. You should all feel ashamed by what your doing to the poor narcissists. I bet you a-holes didn't consider that if you deflate these fuckers then there will be fewer divisive people in the world. Then what? We can have nice things?
Pfffft...overrated.

Welcome aboard. Fuck off. Standby for your basket of silly sausage links.

Za-zen wrote:Zen master shiwongreilly once taught:

Tide goes in, tide goes out

Magnets!

bhoytony wrote:

Za-zen wrote:In zen your not supposed to give a "moral of the story is" as that's for the reader....

My moral of the story is; later on down the road the zen master drops dead, because he refused to learn the fucking lesson that the scorpion didn't want him to touch it.

I see Radford as the scorpion and this is the FTB zen masters' response to him.

http://imgur.com/5zYhr73.jpg

Brive1987 wrote:Alas, his blog was far more mundane than his current profile would suggest.

http://iambilly.wordpress.com

I'd be interested in Skeptickle's views on PZs anti dox views.

It'd be interesting for someone, with a better memory than me, to have a look to see how this short story about the scouts squares with what he's said at ftb:

http://iambilly.wordpress.com/2009/06/2 ... to-belong/

Ape+lust wrote:
http://imgur.com/5zYhr73.jpg

Heh-heh-heh

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Did Chas C Peterson just semi-dox Ogvorbis? "Billy" reference seems to occur in the midst of an Ogvorbis hugfest in the Thunderdome.

http://i.imgur.com/aYHsivU.png

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-778566

Did you see what the crazy rat lady wrote later in that thread?

Inaji
5 April 2014 at 6:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lofty:

Trolls be nocturnal cos they can’t stand the scrutiny of broad daylight.

I resent this comment, and this sentiment in general. I’m awake right now, at 6:55 a.m. because I’ve been working all night. I am nocturnal, not diurnal, and I’m sick and tired of people assigning all bad things to those of us who are nocturnal. There’s nothing all that fucking splendid about being diurnal, like most every other person on the planet.

I’ll also point out the global nature of the internet – people aren’t all on the same fucking time, y’know.

Fuck me, she's found another way to be oppressed - by staying up all night and seething at microaggressions from those privileged daybro assholes who associate the night with things like vampires and shit.

Either that, or she's just cross cos no-one can see smoke signals when it's dark.

Za-zen wrote:A Zen master saw a scorpion drowning and decided to draw it from the water, and when he did, the scorpion stung him. Because of the pain, the master dropped the animal which fell in the water. The master attempted a second time to get it out of the water and the animal stung him again. Someone who was observing approached the master and said:-.

Excuse me, but you are stubborn! Don’t you understand that whenever you’ll attempt to pull it out of the water, it will sting you? The master replied:-the nature of the scorpion is to sting, and this will not change mine which is to help.

Then, using a leaf, the master drew the water scorpion from the water and saved its life and continued.

Then the water scorpion died since the zen master 'rescued' it out of its natural habitat. :bjarte:

http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/2010/mcc ... branch.jpg

Inaji
5 April 2014 at 6:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lofty:

Trolls be nocturnal cos they can’t stand the scrutiny of broad daylight.

I resent this comment, and this sentiment in general. I’m awake right now, at 6:55 a.m. because I’ve been working all night. I am nocturnal, not diurnal, and I’m sick and tired of people assigning all bad things to those of us who are nocturnal. There’s nothing all that fucking splendid about being diurnal, like most every other person on the planet.

I’ll also point out the global nature of the internet – people aren’t all on the same fucking time, y’know.

http://i.imgur.com/IBbvugR.png

Avalyne wrote: Hahaha!! Too busy committing cup size to his memory, by chance? That list of tweets was just a bizarre little trip down narcissist lane. Everybody look at John!

http://thedeclination.com/wp-content/up ... medium.jpg

Totes not doing it for the attention, just totes making an an important point about feminism.

Ape+lust wrote:http://imgur.com/5zYhr73.jpg

It's not just that you're good - it's that you're fast.

Za-zen wrote:That koan, to my understanding is about value. Ask it a different way:

You're in a desert, carrying a backpack with all your worldly possessions, but the weight of them may mean you don't get to the otherside. What do you do?

Go by car.

mary (abbie's ilk) wrote:I'm with Kristine.. I'll probably point and laugh.. Honestly, all this time the SJW have been screaming about how unsafe the conferences have been..and it's been one of there own who people should be afraid of...

seriously guys...(at least)2 men kept going back for more knowing she is batshit crazy...

be honest...how many men here would have sex with her knowing everything we now know about her?

well, the more I think this through..women go back to their violent partners all the time..so why not men..

I must say...that we have to have some great content for my next infusion.. makes for a perfect way to get it..

Hope you're feeling ok today, mary :)

An ex boyfriend and I once overheard a huge fight outside our apartment building, we looked out, watched the couple as they stomped around outside, and eventually saw the guy hit the girl. I went for the phone to call the cops and my boyfriend ... lol, he was so pissed but he was being kind of silly, he grabbed our kitchen knife and stood rigidly in the kitchen for a lonnnng second until his rational mind got the better of him.

Anyway the cops got there pretty quickly, I suspect we weren't the only ones who called, and after a bit of a chase on foot and hiding in bushes, the couple were in custody and one of the cops came to our apartment to talk to us about what we saw. He told us what had happened outside. The girl actually hit one of the cops and was pissed as hell at them for taking her boyfriend away.

All three of us found it depressing, and of course the cop saw that kind of thing all the time.

But regardless of her reaction, all three of us (at least, certainly my ex and I) would still do what we did that night, for the exact same couple. Kind of like the Zen master and his scorpion.

As to psychologically abusive relationships, people get kind of addicted to the drama and intensity. My short-lived marriage was short primarily because he would wake up most mornings in the mood to pick a fight with me, whereas I'm the type to wake up hopeful for the new day. Went from that marriage directly into a new relationship with a very different sort of man, a gentle one. I remember clearly making some sort of domestic mistake and stealing myself up for an attack and a fight, and when it didn't happen I was almost dizzy. Truly felt like I was standing on air. It was then that I realized just how somehow "normal" fighting like that, awful raging anger and yelling, had become in my brain during the years with the ex husband. Insidious stuff, and powerful. I've never had another relationship like my marriage, once was plenty for me.

Stollznow's kind of crazy is like a drug to both her hubby and her ex. Radford's her victim but I'm sure he did some wacked shit too, it's inevitable when actually riding the crazy train. I hope eventually he can find some peace, and even moreso that he can make some very needed personal changes, or he'll keep making the same mistakes when choosing a partner.

Ape+lust wrote:

bhoytony wrote:

Za-zen wrote:In zen your not supposed to give a "moral of the story is" as that's for the reader....

My moral of the story is; later on down the road the zen master drops dead, because he refused to learn the fucking lesson that the scorpion didn't want him to touch it.

I see Radford as the scorpion and this is the FTB zen masters' response to him.

http://imgur.com/5zYhr73.jpg

Love the way you slay me, Ape!
That is fantastic :D
I like how .. lol.. Radford's almost cheerily going about his bizarre huge metallic stinging bug business, while PZ just freaks the hell out so much he and his badges have to hide on the -wainscotting-! .. lol

Tigzy wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Did Chas C Peterson just semi-dox Ogvorbis? "Billy" reference seems to occur in the midst of an Ogvorbis hugfest in the Thunderdome.

http://i.imgur.com/aYHsivU.png

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-778566

Did you see what the crazy rat lady wrote later in that thread?

Inaji
5 April 2014 at 6:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lofty:

Trolls be nocturnal cos they can’t stand the scrutiny of broad daylight.

I resent this comment, and this sentiment in general. I’m awake right now, at 6:55 a.m. because I’ve been working all night. I am nocturnal, not diurnal, and I’m sick and tired of people assigning all bad things to those of us who are nocturnal. There’s nothing all that fucking splendid about being diurnal, like most every other person on the planet.

I’ll also point out the global nature of the internet – people aren’t all on the same fucking time, y’know.

Fuck me, she's found another way to be oppressed - by staying up all night and seething at microaggressions from those privileged daybro assholes who associate the night with things like vampires and shit.

Either that, or she's just cross cos no-one can see smoke signals when it's dark.

I was going to cry foul on that - my first thought was that she had a job at night. I just couldn't see her holding any kind of job. But then I thought it could be her hobbies she was working on, and when else are you going to dig up corpses, rat or otherwise?

Ape+lust wrote:

bhoytony wrote:

Za-zen wrote:In zen your not supposed to give a "moral of the story is" as that's for the reader....

My moral of the story is; later on down the road the zen master drops dead, because he refused to learn the fucking lesson that the scorpion didn't want him to touch it.

I see Radford as the scorpion and this is the FTB zen masters' response to him.

http://imgur.com/5zYhr73.jpg

Hey hey that's excellent, you could also swap out the characters, for another take, stalls is the scorpion, and rad/baxter are the idiots who just can't help themselves.

JacquesCuze wrote:Hey um, there's a few people I haven't seen at the pit recently. Hope all is well to the Kitty overlord.

I am even left wondering where John Calhoun is. He last posted 10 days ago.

I was busy. Macworld and work.

welch wrote:

JacquesCuze wrote:Hey um, there's a few people I haven't seen at the pit recently. Hope all is well to the Kitty overlord.

I am even left wondering where John Calhoun is. He last posted 10 days ago.

I was busy. Macworld and work.

You didn't miss anything

Tigzy wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Did Chas C Peterson just semi-dox Ogvorbis? "Billy" reference seems to occur in the midst of an Ogvorbis hugfest in the Thunderdome.

http://i.imgur.com/aYHsivU.png

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-778566

Did you see what the crazy rat lady wrote later in that thread?

Inaji
5 April 2014 at 6:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lofty:

Trolls be nocturnal cos they can’t stand the scrutiny of broad daylight.

I resent this comment, and this sentiment in general. I’m awake right now, at 6:55 a.m. because I’ve been working all night. I am nocturnal, not diurnal, and I’m sick and tired of people assigning all bad things to those of us who are nocturnal. There’s nothing all that fucking splendid about being diurnal, like most every other person on the planet.

I’ll also point out the global nature of the internet – people aren’t all on the same fucking time, y’know.

Jeez, she's such an angry mindless little cockroach.

Fuck me, she's found another way to be oppressed - by staying up all night and seething at microaggressions from those privileged daybro assholes who associate the night with things like vampires and shit.

DAYBRO ASSHOLES!
:lol:
Damn straight. I work nights, screw all you damn daybro assholes with your awake-during-business-hours privilege!

Either that, or she's just cross cos no-one can see smoke signals when it's dark.

:D
lol

welch wrote:

JacquesCuze wrote:Hey um, there's a few people I haven't seen at the pit recently. Hope all is well to the Kitty overlord.

I am even left wondering where John Calhoun is. He last posted 10 days ago.

I was busy. Macworld and work.

Ah. Macworld sounds fun. I saw a photo of the new Microsoft CEO in a turtle neck a few days ago that made it look as though he was channeling Jobs.

Anyway, good to know you weren't caught in a hydraulic press.

bhoytony wrote: I see Radford as the scorpion and this is the FTB zen masters' response to him.

[youtube]1p_dLlBxGkI[/youtube]

Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair. You can tell that they're suburban/urban kids too, since one of them calls the hoe a "shovel." :mrgreen:

Shoes are the best way to kill a bark scorpion - step on it or smack it really hard.

Ape+lust wrote: http://imgur.com/5zYhr73.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Brilliant! I love the expression on PeeZus' face.

BarnOwl wrote: Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair.

:shock:
You always seem so calm. What do you do when the scorpions do terrible things like that, serenely flick it off then find a shoe?
Just the thought alone is making my mind scream and I feel all wigged out.

zenbabe wrote:

BarnOwl wrote: Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair.

:shock:
You always seem so calm. What do you do when the scorpions do terrible things like that, serenely flick it off then find a shoe?
Just the thought alone is making my mind scream and I feel all wigged out.

Obviously a redneck, so the logical conclusion is;

Lock and load the flame thrower and burn the motha fuckin house down yeeeeeehaaaa, 2nd amendment baby!

Tigzy wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Did Chas C Peterson just semi-dox Ogvorbis? "Billy" reference seems to occur in the midst of an Ogvorbis hugfest in the Thunderdome.

http://i.imgur.com/aYHsivU.png

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-778566

Did you see what the crazy rat lady wrote later in that thread?

Inaji
5 April 2014 at 6:58 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Lofty:

Trolls be nocturnal cos they can’t stand the scrutiny of broad daylight.

I resent this comment, and this sentiment in general. I’m awake right now, at 6:55 a.m. because I’ve been working all night. I am nocturnal, not diurnal, and I’m sick and tired of people assigning all bad things to those of us who are nocturnal. There’s nothing all that fucking splendid about being diurnal, like most every other person on the planet.

I’ll also point out the global nature of the internet – people aren’t all on the same fucking time, y’know.

Fuck me, she's found another way to be oppressed - by staying up all night and seething at microaggressions from those privileged daybro assholes who associate the night with things like vampires and shit.

Either that, or she's just cross cos no-one can see smoke signals when it's dark.

What's the opposite of daybro? Nyghtkin?

It all starts to make sense. The opposite of daybro is zombie.

zenbabe wrote:

BarnOwl wrote: Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair.

:shock:
You always seem so calm. What do you do when the scorpions do terrible things like that, serenely flick it off then find a shoe?
Just the thought alone is making my mind scream and I feel all wigged out.

I was told by a number of locals (I'm originally from a scorpion-less part of Texas) that you absolutely must remain calm and suppress the heebie-jeebies, and flick the scorpion off, then stomp it. Otherwise you're much more likely to get stung.

I've seen scorpions deliberately embedded in candy, that you're supposed to eat. That seems totally cray-cray to me.

Skep tickle wrote:pulchritudinous

:text-bravo:

Za-zen wrote: Obviously a redneck, so the logical conclusion is;

Lock and load the flame thrower and burn the motha fuckin house down yeeeeeehaaaa, 2nd amendment baby!

Did you see the chupacabra video I posted a few pages back? Those are some real Texas rednecks. One of them is named Bubba, and the woman has big hair.

BarnOwl wrote:

zenbabe wrote:

BarnOwl wrote: Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair.

:shock:
You always seem so calm. What do you do when the scorpions do terrible things like that, serenely flick it off then find a shoe?
Just the thought alone is making my mind scream and I feel all wigged out.

I was told by a number of locals (I'm originally from a scorpion-less part of Texas) that you absolutely must remain calm and suppress the heebie-jeebies, and flick the scorpion off, then stomp it. Otherwise you're much more likely to get stung.

I've seen scorpions deliberately embedded in candy, that you're supposed to eat. That seems totally cray-cray to me.

Same applies to all critters with a sting, slow steady movement till your out of it's strike range, sweep them off with the back of your hand (not slowly!) then run fuck fuck or nuke em.

Brive1987 wrote:Alas, his blog was far more mundane than his current profile would suggest.

http://iambilly.wordpress.com

I'd be interested in Skeptickle's views on PZs anti dox views.

LOL, good point. Even ignoring the moderated un-moderated Thunderdome, we have PZ saying:

"No doxxing on my blog network of my followers, even the one using my comment threads to gain sympathy for past acts of sexual assault against children that I won't call him out on!"

Myers' position re protecting Ogvorbis' (sp?) identity fits quite nicely with his own policy re doxxing posted at
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... onymously/:

[P]ost anonymously if you want, but realize that I expect responsible and reasonable behavior if you do so.

Myers closed that same OP with this insightful comment, which one (on "the other side" anyway) could be excused for thinking might pertain to posting defamatory claims:

I have absolutely no respect for someone who insists on the privilege of simultaneously being a shithead and being free of any responsibility for what they say.

BarnOwl wrote:

zenbabe wrote:

BarnOwl wrote: Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair.

:shock:
You always seem so calm. What do you do when the scorpions do terrible things like that, serenely flick it off then find a shoe?
Just the thought alone is making my mind scream and I feel all wigged out.

I was told by a number of locals (I'm originally from a scorpion-less part of Texas) that you absolutely must remain calm and suppress the heebie-jeebies, and flick the scorpion off, then stomp it. Otherwise you're much more likely to get stung.

So, screaming and screaming and flailing and swatting and screaming and jumping onto the wainscotting is not the plan to take huh :)

I've seen scorpions deliberately embedded in candy, that you're supposed to eat. That seems totally cray-cray to me.

I would probably try that actually.

You've seen Zimmerman on Bizarre Foods?
Yesterday or the day before (I lose track of time a little, because I'm a nyghtkin), he was eating tarantulas.
:bjarte:
It was horrible to watch but I couldn't look away.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ligion.png

Professor Derp wrote:(By the way, I’m not a fan of graphs that mislead by having different scales: the percent change in the adoption of the internet is far, far greater than the percent change in the adoption of atheism — this chart illustrates a similarity in timing, only.)

Far from showing a similarity of timing, it is unlikely from these charts that the internet is causing atheists. This is because as the internet becomes more pervasive, you should expect a cummulative effect in the number of atheists, if one was causing the other. You would expect the atheist chart to be concave for the period 1990 - 2010, with the greatest rate of increase towards 2010.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... n-atheism/

JackSkeptic wrote: So you say, I am yet to be convinced either way.... maybe she is in the right, I don't know yet, it's all guesswork

What do you find still uncertain? I'm confident that Stollznow:
* On at least two occasions, made baseless charges of sexual harassment involving employers she was angry at for other reasons;
* Made false accusations against at least two men she was romantically involved with;
* Perpetrated emotional & physical domestic abuse, yet attempts destroy someone over far lesser (or possibly non-existent) acts, which she labels "abuse";
* Willfully falsified dates of events;
* Made a public accusation of felonious activity, when any reasonable person would know that the acts she had in mind do not meet the legal definitions of the felonies Sexual Harassment or Sexual Assault.

She staged a hoax, which was exposed. She should not be invited to speak at conferences about exposing hoaxes.

So she may need professional help and sympathy in that case, not more pressure.

I'm detecting a fair amount of coddling around here. Is her Damsel-in-Distress mojo that powerful?

... the organizations involved ... can and should be allowed to make their own decisions as we have a right to respond to those by no longer supporting them.

Umm, that's known as a "boycott."

this is a personal, highly complex and nasty disagreement between three people with real lives being affected.

All that is there, for sure. Still, those do not mitigate, much less justify, Stollznow's commission of libel and fraud.

Then there's Zvan and the debacle over her post regarding Christie whatshername and that guy, whatshisname; her selective moderation to manipulate the message (at least that presented by undesirable commenters); her doxxing; and I forget what other illustrious moves on her part but there have been a few

This weekend she's moderating a panel at Skeptech, subtitled "Do read the comments: creating a constructive online community", which includes (among others) Miri . It's clearly aimed at bloggers, not commentres; "do read the comments" means reading them before letting them see the light of day. The blurb says:

How to we go beyond the trolls in our online spaces? Preventing malicious comments is fine, but the goal of many online communities is to exhibit robust and nuanced discussion in the comments. How do we reach this goal? What are the effective techniques used? What is the role of moderation, whether used too little, too much, or just used badly?

Anyone interested in attending might wish to check which dimension he/she is in, not only for the head-spinning assumption that Zvan knows anything about "robust and nuanced discussion" much less "creating a constructive online community". Even, perhaps, check which time zone you're in, as her panel discussion is listed as being in 3 different slots. Minor thing, but amusing:

It might be (from the skeptech schedule) on Saturday at 5:30pm, or
it might be (from the google calendar linked to the event entry in the schedule above) on Saturday at 6:30pm, or
It might be (as Zvan says in a post on her blog) on "Sunday at 11am" (even though, amusingly, in that phrase she links to the skeptech schedule showing it on Saturday at 5:30pm).

Guestus Aurelius wrote:

dogen wrote: The whole level of technical analysis on Canuck's blog is laughable. It's a dick waving competition where nobody realizes that the largest cock in the room barely clears 2 inches (yes, Marcus Ranum, that's you!).

:lol:

Yes, and the Canuck post itself cracks me up with its transparently disingenuous "I'm the one being skeptical, see, because I don't claim with 100% certainty that Radford is guilty" platitudes. Hilarious how he called out everyone who jumped the gun by rushing to Radford's FB page when the retraction first came out, but refuses to acknowledge the now-obvious fact that his whole fucking blog network jumped the gun by assuming Stollznow was being truthful from the beginning, even though she provided zero evidence to back up her allegations.

Meet the new boss—same as the old boss.

And the party on the left is now the party on the right.

Thibedolt's sub-horde, led by HJ Huffenpuff, were certain the FB retraction was an whole-cloth fraud by Rads. We now know at worst, it represented a slight revision of a draft by Bax. Yet the baboons ignore that now, and instead focus on 'if Mykeru sez it, it must be false.'

zenbabe wrote: You've seen Zimmerman on Bizarre Foods?
Yesterday or the day before (I lose track of time a little, because I'm a nyghtkin), he was eating tarantulas.
:bjarte:
It was horrible to watch but I couldn't look away.

I couldn't stop thinking about Gumby's horrific bar fight story, from an anatomist's point of view. There are all sorts of places in the oral cavity, throat, and neck at which glass shards could damage major branches of the external carotid artery, or poke through relatively thin layers to emerge on the external neck. Even if the guy managed to survive the blood loss, I'd think he would have damaged several important nerves in the face, tongue, and throat.

It all makes sense if you think of the neck as a poorly-designed conduit for several types of plumbing, A/C, and electric/fiber optics cables.

Unfortunately the story is far too grotesque and extreme to use as a clinical vignette for an exam question.

IronyLOL

welch wrote:

JacquesCuze wrote:Hey um, there's a few people I haven't seen at the pit recently. Hope all is well to the Kitty overlord.

I am even left wondering where John Calhoun is. He last posted 10 days ago.

I was busy. Macworld and work.

Too busy for us?

:evil:

BarnOwl wrote:

zenbabe wrote: You've seen Zimmerman on Bizarre Foods?
Yesterday or the day before (I lose track of time a little, because I'm a nyghtkin), he was eating tarantulas.
:bjarte:
It was horrible to watch but I couldn't look away.

I couldn't stop thinking about Gumby's horrific bar fight story <snip>

You're not alone. Christ on a stick that was fucked up.

BarnOwl wrote:

bhoytony wrote: I see Radford as the scorpion and this is the FTB zen masters' response to him.

Pfft. Yankee furiners. Wait until a bark scorpion drops out of an A/C vent or flings off a ceiling fan into your hair. You can tell that they're suburban/urban kids too, since one of them calls the hoe a "shovel." :mrgreen:

Shoes are the best way to kill a bark scorpion - step on it or smack it really hard.

I find wanking on them does the trick.

[youtube]NYt1S2TSteA[/youtube]

Never really come across a scorpion, but once in a bar in Phnom Penh I saw people looking behind me and freaking out. Apparently a huge poisonous tropical centipede had scuttled across the floor and under a seat behind me. Despite a long hunt they couldn't find where it was and I spent the rest of the night waiting for it to crawl up my trouser leg.

[youtube]ooFSFR2s7Ig[/youtube]

BarnOwl wrote:
I couldn't stop thinking about Gumby's horrific bar fight story, from an anatomist's point of view. There are all sorts of places in the oral cavity, throat, and neck at which glass shards could damage major branches of the external carotid artery, or poke through relatively thin layers to emerge on the external neck. Even if the guy managed to survive the blood loss, I'd think he would have damaged several important nerves in the face, tongue, and throat.

I expected the story to end with him dying as blood poured out of his mouth and ass, as the glass made its way down, shredding everything inside. And then instead the story got worse and worse and ugh.

It all makes sense if you think of the neck as a poorly-designed conduit for several types of plumbing, A/C, and electric/fiber optics cables.

:lol:

Unfortunately the story is far too grotesque and extreme to use as a clinical vignette for an exam question.

Maybe for a high level course?
Perhaps that's all you teach.
Do you ever get the random, misplaced SJW in your classes?
I'm imagining Melody facing that question and the twittering about the PTSD she got from it.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:

JackSkeptic wrote:

So she may need professional help and sympathy in that case, not more pressure.

I'm detecting a fair amount of coddling around here. Is her Damsel-in-Distress mojo that powerful?

I agree. She's an adult human being who doesn't help, she needs consequences.

Towards the end of the last thread, we learned that Hugo Schwyzer is getting the help he needs in the psych ward of the community hospital, and how that's going. He's still pulling the same shit, preying on vulnerable young women.

Look, I'm a liberal, I believe in rehabilitating offenders, otherwise what's the point? But you've got to punish them as well, because some people just don't have a functioning conscience. It's all very well trying to get them to understand the consequences of their actions on other people, because they don't care. There's got to be consequences for them that outweigh what they get out of their offences. They need negative reinforcement. Do that again, and you'll regret it. People like Schwyzer and Stollznow are used to not getting that, so they don't stop.

Really? wrote:IronyLOL

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

Really? wrote:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Really? wrote:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

Guestus Aurelius wrote:

Really? wrote:IronyLOL

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

Really? wrote:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Really? wrote:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

Agreed, spot on. But here's what I was thinking:

YOU IGNORE THE FIRST-PERSON NARRATIVE OF OGVORBIS AND LOOOOOOVE THE HEARSAY OF CARRIE POPPY.

FTBTARDS ATTACK EACH OTHER CONSTANTLY AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LIKE WITH OUTSIDERS.

THE TENSION IS CAUSED BY YOUR FALLACIOUS THINKING AND LACK OF REGARD FOR LAWS AND STUFF.

Guestus Aurelius wrote:

Really? wrote:IronyLOL

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

Really? wrote:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Really? wrote:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon and https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

Agreed, spot on. But here's what I was thinking:

YOU IGNORE THE FIRST-PERSON NARRATIVE OF OGVORBIS AND LOOOOOOVE THE HEARSAY OF CARRIE POPPY.

FTBTARDS ATTACK EACH OTHER CONSTANTLY AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LIKE WITH OUTSIDERS.

THE TENSION IS CAUSED BY YOUR FALLACIOUS THINKING AND LACK OF REGARD FOR LAWS AND STUFF.

Really? wrote:

zenbabe wrote:

Jan Steen wrote:http://i.imgur.com/LJy1i4p.jpg

:laughing-rofl: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rofl:

Wait a minute...has anyone speculated as to why Radford apparently fucks with his glasses on? I don't wear glasses yet. Is that normal?

Further, the SJW "revenge porn" narrative seems crazy. I've seen porn. Porn is a good friend of mine. That, my friend, is not porn.

Do you think Clark Kent takes his glasses off when fucking Lois Lane?

And it's just me, or the fucking Amazing Atheist, when confronted with some form of "revenge porn" (aka a girl releasing the infamous banana up his ass video) took it much more maturely than the SJW brigade took this mild bullshit of Stollznov and Radford?

When you react to something with less grace and maturity than TJ, you must be a 5-years old or a fucking retarded.

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I'll see your bark scorpion in your hair and raise you a Space Herpe on your ship.

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zenbabe wrote:
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Maybe for a high level course?
Perhaps that's all you teach.
Do you ever get the random, misplaced SJW in your classes?
I'm imagining Melody facing that question and the twittering about the PTSD she got from it.

There's a lot of social justice built into policies, administration, and activities at my university, and I'm honestly on board with, or actively involved in, most of it. Of course some people are going to carry it to the SJW extreme, and we have a few of those (not just students). When it becomes so extreme as to be a ridiculous, counter-productive circle jerk, I feel compelled to adopt a subversive approach.

It's possible the bar fight story could be adapted so it's not so extreme, like have the guy stop chewing the glass after one piece cuts an artery, or pierces through his cheek, or something like that. I kind of wonder whether the guy in Gumby's story had congenital insensitivity to pain, due to a mutation in a nerve growth factor receptor. Kids with the disorder bite off pieces of their own tongue, burn and cut their fingers, etc. and don't cry when they're being stitched up in the ER.

Ah, scorpions. My wife twice went as medical officer on scorpion collecting expeditions (in the Sinai and the Negev) and brought back hundreds of the critters. I got a call when she got back to rush across London and do something for the expedition leader who had been stung by one of their captives. Not knowing any better I put a ring block in his finger so at least it didn't hurt; these days I'd give him an antihistamine and some ice. She became quite enamoured of the little creatures, and the solifugae they caught as well (really ugly beasts - see here) and ended up keeping an emperor scorpion as a pet. The silly thing was that she felt it would compromise her vegetarian principles to feed it, so I had to go and buy a bags of live cricket (pet shops keep them for snakes) to feed it once a week. You could hear the crunching of the chitin as he chowed down. Fortunately he/she drowned in the water dish before getting hand-sized. A sting from it fully grown would be, well, outrageous. :bjarte:

This pic and the one from last night make me think that they're just ignoring the fact most people think they're a bunch of cunts. It's funny in a way, because they've effectively poisoned their own movement with their bullshit. Equal rights for everyone, cool. Women are oppressed? Nah, everyone's oppressed. White privilege? Yup, I'm just gonna fuck off and watch y'all eat yourselves.

BarnOwl wrote:

zenbabe wrote:
:shock:
You always seem so calm. What do you do when the scorpions do terrible things like that, serenely flick it off then find a shoe?
Just the thought alone is making my mind scream and I feel all wigged out.

I was told by a number of locals (I'm originally from a scorpion-less part of Texas) that you absolutely must remain calm and suppress the heebie-jeebies, and flick the scorpion off, then stomp it. Otherwise you're much more likely to get stung.

I've seen scorpions deliberately embedded in candy, that you're supposed to eat. That seems totally cray-cray to me.

I've got a scorpion story for Robokitty. When I was in Africa I wanted a cat and another Peace Corps volunteer's cat had kittens so I took one. The family I lived with never had a cat and they weren't enthused about it. My village mom told me she'd kill it if it went after the chickens. And it turned out my village dad was afraid of cats. So of course the kitten took a liking to him and would always approach him. It was especially funny to his wife when the cat would approach him while he was doing his evening prayers on his mat. Anyway..one day he's on his mat and the cat is there only it's not attempting to rub up against him it's batting something around. The something was a scorpion. Well my dad thought the cat saved him from a scorpion sting and got to like it so much that when the time came for me to leave I left the cat with him.
The cat never did go after the chicks, and that was interesting to me because it didn't have to be trained not to. It just seemed to know they were off limits and kept his hunting confined to lizards and mice and the like.

I don't know anything about intrarectal bananas, and I don't think I want to.

feralandproud wrote:

This pic and the one from last night make me think that they're just ignoring the fact most people think they're a bunch of cunts. It's funny in a way, because they've effectively poisoned their own movement with their bullshit. Equal rights for everyone, cool. Women are oppressed? Nah, everyone's oppressed. White privilege? Yup, I'm just gonna fuck off and watch y'all eat yourselves.

Lemme guess. Jen McCreight handled publicity using her own advice.

(I'm sorry her parent died, but still...)

Southern wrote: Do you think Clark Kent takes his glasses off when fucking Lois Lane?

And it's just me, or the fucking Amazing Atheist, when confronted with some form of "revenge porn" (aka a girl releasing the infamous banana up his ass video) took it much more maturely than the SJW brigade took this mild bullshit of Stollznov and Radford?

When you react to something with less grace and maturity than TJ, you must be a 5-years old or a fucking retarded.

They obviously aren't really offended. It's just something to beat off to Ben Radford with in the time remaining before Stollznow finally 'fesses up. And then we will laugh. Oh how we will laugh.

zenbabe wrote:
So, screaming and screaming and flailing and swatting and screaming and jumping onto the wainscotting is not the plan to take huh :)

I've seen scorpions deliberately embedded in candy, that you're supposed to eat. That seems totally cray-cray to me.

I would probably try that actually.

You've seen Zimmerman on Bizarre Foods?
Yesterday or the day before (I lose track of time a little, because I'm a nyghtkin), he was eating tarantulas.
:bjarte:
It was horrible to watch but I couldn't look away.

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screwtape wrote:Ah, scorpions. My wife twice went as medical officer on scorpion collecting expeditions (in the Sinai and the Negev) and brought back hundreds of the critters. I got a call when she got back to rush across London and do something for the expedition leader who had been stung by one of their captives. Not knowing any better I put a ring block in his finger so at least it didn't hurt; these days I'd give him an antihistamine and some ice. She became quite enamoured of the little creatures, and the solifugae they caught as well (really ugly beasts - see here) and ended up keeping an emperor scorpion as a pet. The silly thing was that she felt it would compromise her vegetarian principles to feed it, so I had to go and buy a bags of live cricket (pet shops keep them for snakes) to feed it once a week. You could hear the crunching of the chitin as he chowed down. Fortunately he/she drowned in the water dish before getting hand-sized. A sting from it fully grown would be, well, outrageous. :bjarte:

:shock:

Fortunately the bark scorpions aren't particularly venomous, though their sting does hurt briefly. My brother-in-law likened stepping on one barefoot to stepping on a piece of glass, and I think that's a pretty fair description. Whereas a bite from a brown recluse spider will be less painful initially, but cause many more problems for a prolonged period.

I had a lab mate who kept a large black widow spider in a glass jar (in a drawer in her lab bench) as a pet. OK, I had a rough-skinned newt Taricha granulosa in an aquarium on my desk, but you'd have to have eaten it, for it to be dangerous.

BarnOwl wrote:I kind of wonder whether the guy in Gumby's story had congenital insensitivity to pain, due to a mutation in a nerve growth factor receptor. Kids with the disorder bite off pieces of their own tongue, burn and cut their fingers, etc. and don't cry when they're being stitched up in the ER.

We'll never know, but I remember the whole thing quite clearly, and while he wasn't rapidly gobbling it down like popcorn, he didn't act like he was in any real pain. I mean, both of them were pretty drunk, but come on, I would think one would have to be drunk almost to the point of unconsciousness to do what he did and not feel pain.

In any case, I'm glad my anecdote is grossing y'all out :D