Don't call me Ishmael, but here is your traditional basket of lynx (background). And now fuck off.*queequack wrote:Matt Cavanaugh, is all that junk about Prof. Myers actually true? Does he really let a child rapist comment on his blog?
What a fucking piece of shit, seriously.Gumby wrote:Yep. He basically just told his cult members to fuck with her career, without specifically saying the words.strayling wrote:PZ just doxxed Skep Tickle in his "Turning over a rock" article. This is getting nasty.
No link because doxxing.
I'm tempted to adopt Peezusian tactics and make some phone calls. Doxxing and trying to fuck with real-world careers because you can't handle the OPINION someone offered about your medical condition is really over the line.Master Myers: Using first hand public information and making an interpretation with your knowledge, for example of medicine, is unethical. Especially when it makes me or my friends look bad. Putting this on small blogs few people read is no excuse. It is however ethical to determine someone was a rapist with second and third hand information and publish that information on multiple highly visible blogs and on social media.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzI1LQrIYAEaELD.pngqueequack wrote:I didn't realize that Myers was so controversial. I used to watch TAM videos of that guy when I was in high school, and I just remember him as a soft-spoken firebrand type. I always found him pretty likable.
Quee, I don't think anyone here disagrees with your assessment. The reason Oggy's case figures prominently is because Peez's commenters fall all over him, smothering him with virtual hugs, reassurances and even tell him they'd let him babysit their own kids. Which in a vacuum looks relatively normal. But then they turn around and accuse all sorts of people not in their tribal unit of being rapists. Ogvorbis does what he said he did, great. Some other guy has consensual sex with his tipsy girlfriend or something, that's rape.queequack wrote:Tony, ok, I looked through that thread. The guy, "ogvorbis" seems to indicate that he participated in some kind of sexual assault when he was a preteen and still in emotional turmoil from his own childhood abuse. Which doesn't erase what he did, but I also don't think it's quite the same thing as an fully functional adult who rapes children.
Manlet queequack must be instructed!Tony Parsehole wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzI1LQrIYAEaELD.pngqueequack wrote:I didn't realize that Myers was so controversial. I used to watch TAM videos of that guy when I was in high school, and I just remember him as a soft-spoken firebrand type. I always found him pretty likable.
queequack wrote:Tony, ok, I looked through that thread. The guy, "ogvorbis" seems to indicate that he participated in some kind of sexual assault when he was a preteen and still in emotional turmoil from his own childhood abuse. Which doesn't erase what he did, but I also don't think it's quite the same thing as an fully functional adult who rapes children.
Ok. I went to FTB (reluctantly) and yes, Myers did doxx Skep Tickle in no uncertain ways. That is beyond disgusting.strayling wrote:PZ just doxxed Skep Tickle in his "Turning over a rock" article. This is getting nasty.
No link because doxxing.
So it's true: Sea Monkeys can be trained!Tigzy wrote:It's incredible to read Peez's Pharyngula piece on the Cavanaugh article - the commentariat have taken Matt's speculation that Peez might have a venereal disease from no more than a link to the condition from Skeptickle, and in the space of a few comments have morphed it into a serious consideration that Skep might actually have been rifling through actual medical records in order to get some dirt on PZ.
Somehow, they still manage to amaze me in their excesses. It's truly astonishing.
It has been discussed to the death, but in a nutshell...queequack wrote:Tony, ok, I looked through that thread. The guy, "ogvorbis" seems to indicate that he participated in some kind of sexual assault when he was a preteen and still in emotional turmoil from his own childhood abuse. Which doesn't erase what he did, but I also don't think it's quite the same thing as an fully functional adult who rapes children.
You are better than sinking to his level.(I believe I can say that with full confidence)James Caruthers wrote:What a fucking piece of shit, seriously.Gumby wrote:Yep. He basically just told his cult members to fuck with her career, without specifically saying the words.strayling wrote:PZ just doxxed Skep Tickle in his "Turning over a rock" article. This is getting nasty.
No link because doxxing.
The brave warriors of social justice, and the first thing they turn to is? Doxxing and trying to get someone fired (censorship essentially) based off a mild observation (IIRC it was more of a joke, and certainly wasn't some sort of "ahaha I have your file peezus" medical betrayal.)
Meanwhile PZ accuses others of rape willy-nilly and hasn't seen the inside of a courtroom yet.
I'm tempted to adopt Peezusian tactics and make some phone calls. Doxxing and trying to fuck with real-world careers because you can't handle the OPINION someone offered about your medical condition is really over the line.Master Myers: Using first hand public information and making an interpretation with your knowledge, for example of medicine, is unethical. Especially when it makes me or my friends look bad. Putting this on small blogs few people read is no excuse. It is however ethical to determine someone was a rapist with second and third hand information and publish that information on multiple highly visible blogs and on social media.
A man with a very long... breath. Very long.Matt Cavanaugh wrote:The man is seriously depraved across the board. But what creeps me out the most is the bestiality. What kind of person would have sex with a dolphin?
I'd encourage you to read Skepticle's original "gonorrhea" post before you parrot how it has been characterized. (TL;DL: she *didn't* seriously diagnose his condition as being due to gonorrhea).James Caruthers wrote:... Doxxing and trying to fuck with real-world careers because you can't handle the OPINION someone offered about your medical condition is really over the line.
yeah - "serious breach of medical ethics" my ass. It's pure bullshit, and IMO tickle has absolutely nothing to worry about in terms of her employer or the AMA or certifying boards or whatever.katamari Damassi wrote:I'm not worried about Skep. Even if one of Peezus' minions decides to contact someone in the organization Skep works for, there's nothing to report. Skep did nothing wrong. Whoever does the contacting will just reveal s/h/itself to be just another internet lunatic.
I swear I made my tweet saying the same thing before I read this.Dick Strawkins wrote:So a man makes a blog post listing the problematic behavior of Myers and what's his response?
He tries to vindictively destroy the career of a woman.
What a brave hero.
:roll:
Skeppers was obviously joking in that post, but tell that to the pathetic losers who comprise his commentariat. They're foaming at the mouth... over absolutely fucking nothing.James Caruthers wrote: The brave warriors of social justice, and the first thing they turn to is? Doxxing and trying to get someone fired (censorship essentially) based off a mild observation (IIRC it was more of a joke, and certainly wasn't some sort of "ahaha I have your file peezus" medical betrayal.)
Jeffrey Dahmer was abused as a child,too.Brive1987 wrote:Yes. self confessed. But earlier he had been allegedly interfered with. So. You know. Victim of the patriarchal rape culture. But he has now repented and seen the light.queequack wrote:Matt Cavanaugh, is all that junk about Prof. Myers actually true? Does he really let a child rapist comment on his blog?
Which removes him from all the other original sinned men here abouts.
.....
Btw everything here is meta. Welcome and fuck off. I suspect our supply of lyncs have dried up in the rush. :D
I PM'd Skep tickle when this first hit the fan, but haven't heard back. I feel terrible that a courtesy h/t for providing the medical links brought all the hate of the FtBullies upon her.Gumby wrote:Yep. He basically just told his cult members to fuck with her career, without specifically saying the words.strayling wrote:PZ just doxxed Skep Tickle in his "Turning over a rock" article. This is getting nasty.
No link because doxxing.
So it's even more harmless than I thought it was. Just Skep being Skep and offering interesting medical info about illness.some guy wrote:I'd encourage you to read Skepticle's original "gonorrhea" post before you parrot how it has been characterized. (TL;DL: she *didn't* seriously diagnose his condition as being due to gonorrhea).James Caruthers wrote:... Doxxing and trying to fuck with real-world careers because you can't handle the OPINION someone offered about your medical condition is really over the line.
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I tend to agree, and I'm optimistic that it will be yet another opportunity for the a/s community to see just what a verminous piece of shit PZ Myers is. I'm hoping this gets discussed in detail at many places and not just here.katamari Damassi wrote:I'm not worried about Skep. Even if one of Peezus' minions decides to contact someone in the organization Skep works for, there's nothing to report. Skep did nothing wrong. Whoever does the contacting will just reveal s/h/itself to be just another internet lunatic.
Yeah I think Nugent not rolling over and pissing himself, plus some of the tweets from other names in the community, might finally have pushed Peezus over the edge of realization.Tony Parsehole wrote:Panicking seems about right. Why else dox somebody for that? He's not thinking straight. I bet his hands are shaking while he's typing.katamari Damassi wrote:Wow Matt! Hornbeck is still smarting from the thrashing you gave him. Peezus seems a bit panicky. I think it's finally sinking in just how he's fucked up his dream of being a well known and respected atheist spokesperson.
I guess when you're a cowpoke college nobody ever heard of, you have to take what you can get in terms of publicity.BlueShiftRhino wrote:Want some irony? Go here and scroll to the bottom: http://www.morris.umn.edu/urelations/weeklybulletin/ UMinn-Morris is actually proud of PZ's tweeting.
And she would know, because who do you think gave it to him?NoGodsEver wrote:BTW I know for a FACT that he had gonorrhea, and it was a very bad case of it, too. I know it the same way you know anything for certain. Carrie Poppy fucking told me.
Why don't you just quote my entire fucking article and be done with it? Everybody else seems to think that's ok.Tony Parsehole wrote:Fucking hell, Matt. You've had me in stitches tonight.And I surely wouldn’t feel comfortable having my daughter sit in your class while you imagine her a naked mermaid.
You should know by now that it's not about what you've actually done, it's about what they can lie and say you've done.katamari Damassi wrote:I'm not worried about Skep. Even if one of Peezus' minions decides to contact someone in the organization Skep works for, there's nothing to report. Skep did nothing wrong. Whoever does the contacting will just reveal s/h/itself to be just another internet lunatic.
You rock Gumby.Gumby wrote:Skeppers was obviously joking in that post, but tell that to the pathetic losers who comprise his commentariat. They're foaming at the mouth... over absolutely fucking nothing.James Caruthers wrote: The brave warriors of social justice, and the first thing they turn to is? Doxxing and trying to get someone fired (censorship essentially) based off a mild observation (IIRC it was more of a joke, and certainly wasn't some sort of "ahaha I have your file peezus" medical betrayal.)
PZ says "If I were a litigious person (I’m not, they’re safe), I’d find the implication by an MD that I acquired gonorrhea at a conference actionable…" He acts as if he's above such things as litigation, but he dangles her name linked to her medical profile for his commenters. Uh huh, Peez, tell us how you have no idea what is likely to happen when you do that. You despicable piece of shit.
And as for PZ's comment "but this is, of course, a slymepit MD, so she has no credibility", well, Skep is a Harvard-educated doctor, active and respected in her profession. You're a long-faded minor scientist teaching bored college kids at Podunk U. who relies on rage-blogging to an audience of gullible idiots in a pathetic attempt to be noticed... by anybody. Fuck you, asshole.
Correct, but then I don't think any of them (Horde) has shown the slightest concern or interest in his supposed victims' welfare. These are people for whom the victim's perspective is supposed to be paramount. The victims aren't members of the Horde though, so fuck them.queequack wrote:Tony, ok, I looked through that thread. The guy, "ogvorbis" seems to indicate that he participated in some kind of sexual assault when he was a preteen and still in emotional turmoil from his own childhood abuse. Which doesn't erase what he did, but I also don't think it's quite the same thing as an fully functional adult who rapes children.
Ok, fair enough. Like I said, I don't know much about Myers or his followers at all, except that they've been involved in an extended controversy over social justice stuff, which I guess also includes this site.Quee, I don't think anyone here disagrees with your assessment. The reason Oggy's case figures prominently is because Peez's commenters fall all over him, smothering him with virtual hugs, reassurances and even tell him they'd let him babysit their own kids. Which in a vacuum looks relatively normal. But then they turn around and accuse all sorts of people not in their tribal unit of being rapists
You're biased.another lurker wrote:Gumby, best avatar yet. :clap:
Wonder how proud they would be of "The Google Glass feature no one is talking about"BlueShiftRhino wrote:Want some irony? Go here and scroll to the bottom: http://www.morris.umn.edu/urelations/weeklybulletin/ UMinn-Morris is actually proud of PZ's tweeting.
I hate to tell you this. THIS is precisely the problem I have with what I've dubbed "Pop Feminism". I'm not against equality for all, though I will nitpick over perceived oppression. The things people do in the name of equality for women is downright disgusting. :|EdwardGemmer wrote:PZ Myers gets his feelings hurt, decides to try and get a woman fired. Because he's a feminist!
The more you know:James Caruthers wrote: Everyone was a dick to everyone else since the dawn of time, and it's still happening. But yeah, it was more acceptable in the past to openly advocate genocide, because hey, fuck those guys, our tribe wants all that cool shit they have! This happened regardless of race. I have never heard of a modern black man crying over the plight of Egyptians conquered by the Nubians. :)
But in the SJW world, whitey has to apologize, kiss ass and become a SJW toilet slave in order to forgive their Original Sin. It makes me sad to see groups like the Swedes, Finns and Swiss accused of "white privilege" and "white supremacy." When did they ever enslave black people?
He is so desperate for a distractor he had to think of something. It is all about him avoiding what is happening and damn the consequences. I now feel he is actually sick and needs to seek help. A part of me feels sorry for him. He is reaching Jim Jones levels of rhetoric.James Caruthers wrote:So it's even more harmless than I thought it was. Just Skep being Skep and offering interesting medical info about illness.some guy wrote:I'd encourage you to read Skepticle's original "gonorrhea" post before you parrot how it has been characterized. (TL;DL: she *didn't* seriously diagnose his condition as being due to gonorrhea).James Caruthers wrote:... Doxxing and trying to fuck with real-world careers because you can't handle the OPINION someone offered about your medical condition is really over the line.
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Myers thinks this is worth a dox and call to get Skep fired?
:eabod:
You have an H index of 8 and you teach at the school ranked 139th http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandrevie ... orris-2389 . You go, girl!bhoytony wrote:The comments are suddenly rolling in again at Pezus' shithole. I think somebody has hit a nerve. Ouch!
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Ok, but it's a pretty serious accusation though. And even beyond the rapist himself, just allowing an adult to talk about his sex crimes on your Web site is deeply shitty. But the ogvorbis situation, I really do think that's categorically different.If you expect nuance, subtlety and careful consideration from a "suck site" (which is pretty much what the Slymepit is), you may need to Lurk Moar.
To be far more fair to him than he is to his enemies: "good" is subjective. It could just mean a university that puts up with his bullshit.BlueShiftRhino wrote:You have an H index of 8 and you teach at the school ranked 139th http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandrevie ... orris-2389 . You go, girl!bhoytony wrote:The comments are suddenly rolling in again at Pezus' shithole. I think somebody has hit a nerve. Ouch!
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Approving of Doxxing is like having skulls on uniforms.James Caruthers wrote:You should know by now that it's not about what you've actually done, it's about what they can lie and say you've done.katamari Damassi wrote:I'm not worried about Skep. Even if one of Peezus' minions decides to contact someone in the organization Skep works for, there's nothing to report. Skep did nothing wrong. Whoever does the contacting will just reveal s/h/itself to be just another internet lunatic.
That said, even by those standards, Skep is probably safe.
I'm more angry about the doxxing. I think it's telling I can determine the ideological side I'd most like to be on by which group encourages doxxing and which group considers it, in Andrew's words "absolutely haram."
"Am I bovvered? Yeah, but am I bovvered? I'm not even bovvered tho..."bhoytony wrote:The comments are suddenly rolling in again at Pezus' shithole. I think somebody has hit a nerve. Ouch!
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Part of the problem is that PZ and others of his personality type are about as intellectually stubborn and dishonest as your average creationist. PZ, has a blog where the commetariat pours praise over a confessed child rapist (and it's true, as you pointed out, that while that story is literally true, it leaves out important details), and then has the gall to declare, outraged, and with literally no evidence whatsoever, that Nugent is providing a safe haven for rapists on his blog. When dealing with assholes of that magnitude I think even the best of us will stoop to giving stories about his a less charitable characterization. Not an excuse, just an explanation.queequack wrote:Ok, fair enough. Like I said, I don't know much about Myers or his followers at all, except that they've been involved in an extended controversy over social justice stuff, which I guess also includes this site.Quee, I don't think anyone here disagrees with your assessment. The reason Oggy's case figures prominently is because Peez's commenters fall all over him, smothering him with virtual hugs, reassurances and even tell him they'd let him babysit their own kids. Which in a vacuum looks relatively normal. But then they turn around and accuse all sorts of people not in their tribal unit of being rapists
Yep, exactly. Fucking fuck! Going to bed angry, again.tina wrote:PZ - "To say I’m disgusted is an understatement. I think the UW hospital should know what one of their doctors does in her spare time, so I’m not going to shy away from mentioning her name."
Really?
Maybe the University of Morris should know that one of their employees goes around accusing people of rape, sexual harrasment, misogyny bla bla bla, in his spare time?
So he doxxes a scientist over a minor vibe at his ego, encourages his fans to do who-knows-what with her info, and he's still thinking about "boo hoo why are people saying my career is in a spiral?"bhoytony wrote:The comments are suddenly rolling in again at Pezus' shithole. I think somebody has hit a nerve. Ouch!
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Taking Oggy's story at face value:- Three little girls were raped by him and those rapes are still unreported.queequack wrote:Ok, but it's a pretty serious accusation though. And even beyond the rapist himself, just allowing an adult to talk about his sex crimes on your Web site is deeply shitty. But the ogvorbis situation, I really do think that's categorically different.If you expect nuance, subtlety and careful consideration from a "suck site" (which is pretty much what the Slymepit is), you may need to Lurk Moar.
That was kind of my point earlier about the telephone calls.tina wrote:PZ - "To say I’m disgusted is an understatement. I think the UW hospital should know what one of their doctors does in her spare time, so I’m not going to shy away from mentioning her name."
Really?
Maybe the University of Morris should know that one of their employees goes around accusing people of rape, sexual harrasment, misogyny bla bla bla, in his spare time?
Its a fair point. I'd be happy with a career similar to Peezus' small time college professor gig. Then again, I never had any pretensions about being the horsemen of internet atheism.bhoytony wrote:The comments are suddenly rolling in again at Pezus' shithole. I think somebody has hit a nerve. Ouch!
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