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Karmakin wrote:Example #908098646 of Pop Feminism run amok.

http://www.themarysue.com/david-goyer-c ... x-fantasy/
Goyer: I have a theory about She-Hulk. Which was created by a man, right? And at the time in particular I think 95% of comic book readers were men and certainly almost all of the comic book writers were men. So the Hulk was this classic male power fantasy. It’s like, most of the people reading comic books were these people like me who were just these little kids getting the shit kicked out of them every day… And so then they created She-Huk, right? Who was still smart… I think She-Hulk is the chick that you could fuck if you were Hulk, you know what I’m saying? … She-Hulk was the extension of the male power fantasy. So it’s like if I’m going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then let’s create a giant green porn star that only the Hulk could fuck.
However there's a very good response.
Just to clarify some points, She-Hulk was indeed created in 1980 by men: Stan Lee and John Buscema. And generally, She-Hulk is not portrayed as the only woman the Hulk can have sex with because first and foremost, they’re cousins, and the Hulk has had several romantic interests in the comics. Also, we’d be remiss if we didn’t add it’s an extremely offensive thing to say about a female character. Since her introduction, She-Hulk has been a woman of agency and strength, one who quickly took control of her mutation to become a hero and who has never let herself be held back by sexist double-standards and the expectations of others who can’t handle her power, intelligence and sexual confidence.
And then, Goyer comes back again with:
Goyer asked, “How many people in the audience have heard of Martian Manhunter?” After hearing some light applause and cheers, he added, “How many people that raised their hands have ever been laid?”
Yeaaaaah.

And this is the guy writing the new Batman/Superman cross-over. Joy oh joy.
WTF? Has he ever been laid? When you say crossover, do you mean the movie? If not, and this is in the comics, then it's a dark day. How someone so ignorant of comics, heroes, fuck - life itself, can work in the medium....shit. Not sure what else I can say.

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Southern wrote:
John D wrote:Men are really terrible... for sure. When I was young (and ever more rude than I am now) we would comment about a woman with a great body and a plain face by saying something along the lines of "I would totally fuck her, but she would have to put a bag on her head!" This evolved into the shortened phrase of calling a woman a "two bagger."

The first time I heard this I totally fell for the joke. My friend told me someone was a "two bagger" and I asked what a "two bagger" was. His reply: "You want to use two bags in case the first one falls off!"

Ophie.... please feel free to reference this on your blog. You are welcome.
I hope you do not believe that young women don't use similar endearing expressions to refer to people they don't like. Because they do, and they do a lot more than men, since they usually can't shut up.
I'm sure I've posted this before, but here's a man going on at great length about how women talk so much...

[youtube]QmSezwugtd8[/youtube]

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deLurch wrote:
Dave wrote:I find it quite implausible that Ophie was unaware of the term "coyote ugly" until now, the term has been in wide circulation for over 30 years. This seems like just another attempt at manufacturing outrage.
Perhaps people try to avoid using that term while Ophelia is within ear shot.

That and she now knows why the few men she has had relations with in the past are missing an arm.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

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Mr Radio wrote:
Did this dumb bitch even check to see if "we" is the Pit's preferred pronoun? I/Aye/Eye/Eh/Oy feel erased and am going to blog so hard about this.
I thought it was common knowledge that Steers was a hive-mind collective.

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Badger3k wrote:
Mr Radio wrote:
Did this dumb bitch even check to see if "we" is the Pit's preferred pronoun? I/Aye/Eye/Eh/Oy feel erased and am going to blog so hard about this.
I thought it was common knowledge that Steers was a hive-mind collective.
Is that why he's speaking in tongues? :shifty:

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Kind of a must-read by Curtis Sittenfeld:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/c ... inist.html

Excerpts:
... In what I think of as either the apotheosis or the nadir—maybe both—of my stint as a prep-school feminist, I once followed Gloria Steinem into a bathroom to get her autograph. It’s actually even worse than it sounds: first, I lurked outside the stall she was using, then I intercepted her when she emerged, before she could wash her hands. Looking back, I’m pretty sure that this encounter, with its misguided and supremely awkward assertiveness, perfectly encapsulates my entire foray into gender politics.

But I’ve got ahead of myself; let me start at the beginning. In the spring of 1991, the coed boarding school that I attended in Massachusetts, the Groton School, offered senior girls the chance to take a self-defense class. I was a sophomore, but I went to the class’s graduation, which featured the girls fending off and beating up “attackers” in heavy padding and helmets. Back in the dorm afterward, some other students and I chatted with a teacher about gender issues at our school.

As it happened, our dorm had been the site of two unsettling incidents that year. One, which had occurred in the middle of the night, involved a male student entering the room of a female student who’d previously been his girlfriend and staying after she told him to leave; though none of us besides the two of them knew what had transpired, when the boy was subsequently expelled there was such widespread anger toward the girl that she ended up voluntarily leaving Groton.

The second incident was when boys in an adjacent dorm put human shit into a pan, brought it into the kitchen in our dorm, turned on the burner, then departed as the smell permeated the building. ...

... It wasn’t that I didn’t know that forming a feminist group might be off-putting to other students, male and female alike. It was that suspecting it would be off-putting served as evidence that I ought to do it; to shirk this opportunity for moral upgrade would be an act of cowardice. Awash in privilege, living on a campus swarming with healthy, attractive, mostly rich teen-agers, I somehow believed that life should probably be difficult and I should probably suffer: not quite like Jesus—nothing that intense—but maybe like, you know, Susan B. Anthony. I conflated doing something unpopular with doing something important.

Thus armed with little besides erratic social skills and the vague conviction that Groton could be more hospitable to girls, we—mostly I—formed the Group for Female Awareness, a name that makes me cringe to type even now. But we—I—didn’t want to call it the Groton Feminist Group because of the willful tendency, widespread then and persistent still, to misunderstand what feminism is. What if other students thought we didn’t shave our legs? We couldn’t, of course, call it the Female Awareness Group because of the unfortunate acronym. And so we became the G.F.F.A., an appropriately unwieldy moniker for a group that never found its footing.

Was Groton sexist? For the first ninety years of its existence, it had been an all-boys school, and it retained a certain masculine energy—a raucousness at meals, a bawdy kind of joking, the enduring popularity of a particular kind of sharp-tongued senior boy. But is that sexism or is it just adolescence? Once I had become the self-appointed gender police, it hardly mattered. I believed my duty was to ferret out examples of boys misbehaving and girls being mistreated, and ferreting these out wasn’t hard because I soon became a magnet for such misbehavior and mistreatment. It turned out that a lot of what being the head of the G.F.F.A. entailed was sitting at lunch in the dining hall, listening while a boy made some offensive joke because I was present, because I was head of the G.F.F.A., and then acting outraged; it was weirdly like I was practicing to be a guest on a cable-news shoutfest. ...

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Lsuoma wrote: Also called BOBFOC: body off Baywatch, face off Crimewatch.
The modern version is 'butterface' -- as in, 'great body, but her face...'

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deLurch wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:There are plenty more pictures like this, basically showing a drunken party full of drunk skeptics (including Pamela Gay.)
http://i.imgur.com/Mt2dIs9.jpg
I only see one person's breast being groped in those pictures.
This pic gives me the creeps, because in it I can see all the things that happened later on when the cameras were turned off. And judging from Phil Plait's face, he seemed to have the same thought.

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Leave Her Alone!

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Mr Radio wrote:http://imgur.com/ZziJPNx.jpg

Did this dumb bitch even check to see if "we" is the Pit's preferred pronoun? I/Aye/Eye/Eh/Oy feel erased and am going to blog so hard about this.
Leave Ophelia alone you hateful misogynistic bitches! Hasn't she been through enough? Someone tried to throw acid in her face and all you hateful shits do is make fun of her.

Just leave her alone!
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[youtube]QWKHx1ExoQY[/youtube]

Worth a listen. He's talking to some extent about what goes on in performance, but also broader application.

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Pitchguest wrote:So long as the Pit is on top of it, Ophelia has an article up about the firing of New York Times editor, Jill Abramson, and is, as usual, not very charitable.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... o-explain/

It's all about gender. Of course it is. She was fired because she was a woman. She was not fired because of, quote, "arbitrary decision-making, a failure to consult and bring colleagues with her, inadequate communication and the public mistreatment of colleagues." Oh no. It was all about that what's between her legs. Sure, there are some caveats to bring to the table. For example that Jill Abramson was allegedly paid less than the former male editor, Bill Keller, and evidence of Sulzberg's previous incompetence, but let's be frank. That last part is key. She wasn't fired because she was "difficult", Ophelia, you obfuscating hag. She was fired because she publicly mistreated her colleagues! (Among other things.) Stop making everything about gender!
Has there been a defining moment in time that OB burned the bridges of reason and went full SJW?

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James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Exactly, it seems she is working some agenda.

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:lol: :lol:

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Skep tickle wrote:[.youtube]QWKHx1ExoQY[/youtube]

Worth a listen. He's talking to some extent about what goes on in performance, but also broader application.
Brilliant. SJWarriorism/FBB/A+/Skepchick utterly destroyed in 6 mins.

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http://aeon.co/magazine/living-together ... have-ptsd/
I was curious at the growing hold that this one diagnosis, PTSD, had on the professional and public imagination. PTSD appeared to be taking hold of the professional and public imagination even when it did not apply. Perhaps it was because PTSD was a diagnosis without stigma. The rise of biological psychiatry and its focus on mental illnesses as ‘brain diseases’ had failed to remove the taint of moral and personal failing associated with the majority of psychiatric disorders. But here was a disorder that came packaged with a clear-cut cause that was obviously not the patient’s fault, and which set them in the sympathetic and dramatic light of victimhood. Here was a diagnosis that could be taken as a badge of suffering.

...The revision of the DSM classification in 1994 added to the confusion. The definition of a ‘traumatic event’ was broadened. According to DSM IV, you no longer had to be directly exposed to an extreme stressor that would cause distress in anyone to qualify for a PTSD diagnosis. The stressor could be anything that you personally found extremely distressing. Indeed your exposure might be second-hand. You might have heard about the event from a friend or witnessed it on television. This meant that the same diagnosis was now being used for a woman traumatised by having hot tea spilt over her in a hotel, children who had become terrified after watching a ghost story on TV, and soldiers or civilians who had seen their friends blown up or been raped or tortured in prison.

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Skep tickle wrote:[youtube]QWKHx1ExoQY[/youtube]

Worth a listen. He's talking to some extent about what goes on in performance, but also broader application.
That was excellent.

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By the way, while I'm here (and reasonably well), I might as well tell you about the nightmarish situation that's occurred the past week.

It started with a visit to the emergency room. I was there for pain suspecting kidney stone. Got in after five minutes, spoke to a doctor and he listened to what I had to say. So far, so good. The hell began when I was assigned to a different ER. In Sweden the regions of the country are divided into groups, and in that group there are the smaller ER's and the big, main one, and that was the one I was assigned to. (For Swedish readers, that would be NÄL.) For reasons unknown to me I didn't eat before entering the ER and subsequently the waiting period that followed so I ended up becoming very, very, VERY hungry - famished, on the brink to insanity - and I waited for sixteen hours. And that's just the beginning. (Since they suspected kidney stone I wasn't allowed to eat or drink in case I needed immediate surgery.)

The pain that was only a tingle at first turned into a pinch which eventually turned into an intense throbbing jackhammer constantly pounding my left side, and it didn't help that everytime I requested something for the pain they took their sweet time coming back. During a roughly sixteen hour period, I was given two suppositories (one supposedly stronger than the other one), four paracetamols, three pills to ease my nausea and two to ease gastric acid from building, on top of several that was given intravenously. Apart from the nausea, nothing helped. After about twelve hours of nothing to eat, I was going mad. I could think of nothing else. I started making demands. Give me something! Anything! Whatever you can! I'm not proud of it, but then I wasn't exactly in my right mind. I was obsessed. But as I said, this was the only the beginning.

Eventually I was given a sandwich and a glass of water. But here's the thing: it didn't help. At that point I was already so worked up, or my body was already so worked up, that it didn't matter if I ate the sandwich or not. I was still anxious, still nauseous, still restless, still very much in pain.

After sixteen hours of waiting I finally had my x-ray. The x-ray showed I had a 6mm stone lodged on the urinary tract near the left kidney and I was swiftly (though one might argue not swiftly enough) driven back to the hospital where I'd started to have an operation. End of story? Not quite. The operation was successful. Kind of. It had lodged itself pretty hard and the surgeons didn't want to risk it so they shattered it into tinier pieces with laser, inserted a so-called "pigtail" catheter to lead the urine away from the area of the stone, and scheduled a second x-ray in two weeks. The problem? The first day following the operation was poison.

Whenever I sighed or exhaled I felt a painful pinch in my left side. I kept telling myself there was no problem but my body wouldn't listen. I couldn't calm down, I could hardly eat or drink, I couldn't sleep. It was, believe it or not, actually worse than the day before. But I figured it was just something temporary and would blow over in a few hours and I wasn't feeling particularly comfortable with the hospital environment (plus there was this guy who kept grinding his teeth which kept me awake), so after doing some mandatory tests before I could leave, I left and went for home. And it STARTED to feel a lot of better, familiar place, my own bed, cooler (the room in the hospital was very hot, then again I felt uncharacteristically warm the whole time). But it didn't last. If I sat down or laid down to rest, my body would go to overdrive. Simultaneously it felt like part of me was on fire and the other submerged in a vat of ice. The only thing that seemed to quiet it was when I moved around, so for HOURS I wandered around the apartment like a lost ghost.

(Or as a Swedish comedian once famously remarked to an Icelandic reporter, "I was so nervous, all I did was wank, wank, wank!" (The Swedish word for wander is "vanka.")

Anyway. I think I tuned it out eventually. Like an out-of-body experience. I hadn't slept for more than twenty four hours. I was a wreck. So because it had gotten so bad I had to go back to the hospital. I don't know what turned it around in the end, I don't really remember much, but I was released (again) the next day with a packet of sleeping pills (I still hadn't slept a wink), got back home, took the pills, and a plethora of other pills (mostly painkillers), and I think I must've collapsed. I have no recollection of anything past this point except for a craving hunger, something I hadn't had for two days. Or it could have been three days. Like I said, I don't remember. It's a bit fuzzy beyond this point. I went to the ER Friday last week, had the operation the night before Saturday. On second thought, it could've been four. All I know is, those three (alternatively four) days were murder. I never want to experience something like that again. I still have a bit of nausea, a bit of a sore throat, a bit of pain, now and again but it's trivial in comparison. It sounds sensationalistic when I write it out for all to see, and it was only for three/four days, but for me it felt like an age.

Kidney stone. Fucking hell. Hope you never get it. Seriously.

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Celebrities read mean tweets about themselves... hilarious.

[youtube]imW392e6XR0[/youtube]

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Kenteken wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Exactly, it seems she is working some agenda.
I think she's just angry at DJ and some of the other big names, no idea why. She is a member of (and employed by) PETA, which I hope is not supported by skeptics in general. Maybe that has something to do with it? It could also just be more general identity politics, and she's aligned herself with the Watson/FfTB clique. This really looks like the things I've seen from students when I was teaching high school.

I also wonder how her podcast is going. Her cohost has been on Emory Emory's show several times, and EE is one of the persona non Greta's with her clique.

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Pitchguest wrote:By the way, while I'm here (and reasonably well), I might as well tell you about the nightmarish situation that's occurred the past week.

It started with a visit to the emergency room. I was there for pain suspecting kidney stone. Got in after five minutes, spoke to a doctor and he listened to what I had to say. So far, so good. The hell began when I was assigned to a different ER. In Sweden the regions of the country are divided into groups, and in that group there are the smaller ER's and the big, main one, and that was the one I was assigned to. (For Swedish readers, that would be NÄL.) For reasons unknown to me I didn't eat before entering the ER and subsequently the waiting period that followed so I ended up becoming very, very, VERY hungry - famished, on the brink to insanity - and I waited for sixteen hours. And that's just the beginning. (Since they suspected kidney stone I wasn't allowed to eat or drink in case I needed immediate surgery.)

The pain that was only a tingle at first turned into a pinch which eventually turned into an intense throbbing jackhammer constantly pounding my left side, and it didn't help that everytime I requested something for the pain they took their sweet time coming back. During a roughly sixteen hour period, I was given two suppositories (one supposedly stronger than the other one), four paracetamols, three pills to ease my nausea and two to ease gastric acid from building, on top of several that was given intravenously. Apart from the nausea, nothing helped. After about twelve hours of nothing to eat, I was going mad. I could think of nothing else. I started making demands. Give me something! Anything! Whatever you can! I'm not proud of it, but then I wasn't exactly in my right mind. I was obsessed. But as I said, this was the only the beginning.

Eventually I was given a sandwich and a glass of water. But here's the thing: it didn't help. At that point I was already so worked up, or my body was already so worked up, that it didn't matter if I ate the sandwich or not. I was still anxious, still nauseous, still restless, still very much in pain.

After sixteen hours of waiting I finally had my x-ray. The x-ray showed I had a 6mm stone lodged on the urinary tract near the left kidney and I was swiftly (though one might argue not swiftly enough) driven back to the hospital where I'd started to have an operation. End of story? Not quite. The operation was successful. Kind of. It had lodged itself pretty hard and the surgeons didn't want to risk it so they shattered it into tinier pieces with laser, inserted a so-called "pigtail" catheter to lead the urine away from the area of the stone, and scheduled a second x-ray in two weeks. The problem? The first day following the operation was poison.

Whenever I sighed or exhaled I felt a painful pinch in my left side. I kept telling myself there was no problem but my body wouldn't listen. I couldn't calm down, I could hardly eat or drink, I couldn't sleep. It was, believe it or not, actually worse than the day before. But I figured it was just something temporary and would blow over in a few hours and I wasn't feeling particularly comfortable with the hospital environment (plus there was this guy who kept grinding his teeth which kept me awake), so after doing some mandatory tests before I could leave, I left and went for home. And it STARTED to feel a lot of better, familiar place, my own bed, cooler (the room in the hospital was very hot, then again I felt uncharacteristically warm the whole time). But it didn't last. If I sat down or laid down to rest, my body would go to overdrive. Simultaneously it felt like part of me was on fire and the other submerged in a vat of ice. The only thing that seemed to quiet it was when I moved around, so for HOURS I wandered around the apartment like a lost ghost.

(Or as a Swedish comedian once famously remarked to an Icelandic reporter, "I was so nervous, all I did was wank, wank, wank!" (The Swedish word for wander is "vanka.")

Anyway. I think I tuned it out eventually. Like an out-of-body experience. I hadn't slept for more than twenty four hours. I was a wreck. So because it had gotten so bad I had to go back to the hospital. I don't know what turned it around in the end, I don't really remember much, but I was released (again) the next day with a packet of sleeping pills (I still hadn't slept a wink), got back home, took the pills, and a plethora of other pills (mostly painkillers), and I think I must've collapsed. I have no recollection of anything past this point except for a craving hunger, something I hadn't had for two days. Or it could have been three days. Like I said, I don't remember. It's a bit fuzzy beyond this point. I went to the ER Friday last week, had the operation the night before Saturday. On second thought, it could've been four. All I know is, those three (alternatively four) days were murder. I never want to experience something like that again. I still have a bit of nausea, a bit of a sore throat, a bit of pain, now and again but it's trivial in comparison. It sounds sensationalistic when I write it out for all to see, and it was only for three/four days, but for me it felt like an age.

Kidney stone. Fucking hell. Hope you never get it. Seriously.
Fuck man. Sorry to hear that. I had a stone a while back, the period where the stone is passing the kidney really is killer, and I only had it for 6 hours or so. The doctor who was working told off the nurse for not getting me on to a painkiller right away (which was funny 'cos the doctor was a little Pakistani woman). Although for me, that was fine because the IV painkiller put me to sleep right away, as those things basically knock me the hell out. I was groggy and not feeling a thing for the next day or so, which is good because that took me through the worse period.

Some people say actually passing the stone through the urethra is the worst part, but for me that shot right through like a little torpedo.

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Pitchguest wrote:By the way, while I'm here (and reasonably well), I might as well tell you about the nightmarish situation that's occurred the past week.

It started with a visit to the emergency room. I was there for pain suspecting kidney stone. Got in after five minutes, spoke to a doctor and he listened to what I had to say. So far, so good. The hell began when I was assigned to a different ER. In Sweden the regions of the country are divided into groups, and in that group there are the smaller ER's and the big, main one, and that was the one I was assigned to. (For Swedish readers, that would be NÄL.) For reasons unknown to me I didn't eat before entering the ER and subsequently the waiting period that followed so I ended up becoming very, very, VERY hungry - famished, on the brink to insanity - and I waited for sixteen hours. And that's just the beginning. (Since they suspected kidney stone I wasn't allowed to eat or drink in case I needed immediate surgery.)

The pain that was only a tingle at first turned into a pinch which eventually turned into an intense throbbing jackhammer constantly pounding my left side, and it didn't help that everytime I requested something for the pain they took their sweet time coming back. During a roughly sixteen hour period, I was given two suppositories (one supposedly stronger than the other one), four paracetamols, three pills to ease my nausea and two to ease gastric acid from building, on top of several that was given intravenously. Apart from the nausea, nothing helped. After about twelve hours of nothing to eat, I was going mad. I could think of nothing else. I started making demands. Give me something! Anything! Whatever you can! I'm not proud of it, but then I wasn't exactly in my right mind. I was obsessed. But as I said, this was the only the beginning.

Eventually I was given a sandwich and a glass of water. But here's the thing: it didn't help. At that point I was already so worked up, or my body was already so worked up, that it didn't matter if I ate the sandwich or not. I was still anxious, still nauseous, still restless, still very much in pain.

After sixteen hours of waiting I finally had my x-ray. The x-ray showed I had a 6mm stone lodged on the urinary tract near the left kidney and I was swiftly (though one might argue not swiftly enough) driven back to the hospital where I'd started to have an operation. End of story? Not quite. The operation was successful. Kind of. It had lodged itself pretty hard and the surgeons didn't want to risk it so they shattered it into tinier pieces with laser, inserted a so-called "pigtail" catheter to lead the urine away from the area of the stone, and scheduled a second x-ray in two weeks. The problem? The first day following the operation was poison.

Whenever I sighed or exhaled I felt a painful pinch in my left side. I kept telling myself there was no problem but my body wouldn't listen. I couldn't calm down, I could hardly eat or drink, I couldn't sleep. It was, believe it or not, actually worse than the day before. But I figured it was just something temporary and would blow over in a few hours and I wasn't feeling particularly comfortable with the hospital environment (plus there was this guy who kept grinding his teeth which kept me awake), so after doing some mandatory tests before I could leave, I left and went for home. And it STARTED to feel a lot of better, familiar place, my own bed, cooler (the room in the hospital was very hot, then again I felt uncharacteristically warm the whole time). But it didn't last. If I sat down or laid down to rest, my body would go to overdrive. Simultaneously it felt like part of me was on fire and the other submerged in a vat of ice. The only thing that seemed to quiet it was when I moved around, so for HOURS I wandered around the apartment like a lost ghost.

(Or as a Swedish comedian once famously remarked to an Icelandic reporter, "I was so nervous, all I did was wank, wank, wank!" (The Swedish word for wander is "vanka.")

Anyway. I think I tuned it out eventually. Like an out-of-body experience. I hadn't slept for more than twenty four hours. I was a wreck. So because it had gotten so bad I had to go back to the hospital. I don't know what turned it around in the end, I don't really remember much, but I was released (again) the next day with a packet of sleeping pills (I still hadn't slept a wink), got back home, took the pills, and a plethora of other pills (mostly painkillers), and I think I must've collapsed. I have no recollection of anything past this point except for a craving hunger, something I hadn't had for two days. Or it could have been three days. Like I said, I don't remember. It's a bit fuzzy beyond this point. I went to the ER Friday last week, had the operation the night before Saturday. On second thought, it could've been four. All I know is, those three (alternatively four) days were murder. I never want to experience something like that again. I still have a bit of nausea, a bit of a sore throat, a bit of pain, now and again but it's trivial in comparison. It sounds sensationalistic when I write it out for all to see, and it was only for three/four days, but for me it felt like an age.

Kidney stone. Fucking hell. Hope you never get it. Seriously.
Shorter PG: "wut about Teh Menz?!"

Check your rapey male privilege. Come back and try again when the Patriarchy is sexually assaulting you via microaggressions on a daily basis.

Oh, and a "pigtail" catheter? Could you have made your whiny kidney stone story any more misogynistic? I'm literally shaking with rage, and it only gets worse when I think about how you have the nerve to complain about your "nightmarish situation" as if it's anything comparable to the rage I'm currently shaking with. Who the hell do you think you are? Why are you making this all about you? Tears are flowing down my red cheeks, I'm so angry. Are you happy now, fucker?

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Also, welcome back, PG. Sounds like you went through hell. Glad you're feeling better.

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acathode wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:If a woman fires a man, he probably did something to deserve it.

If a man fires a man, he probably did something to deserve it.

If a woman fires a woman, she might have done something to deserve it if the women doing the firing is a proper feminist, and not a gender traitor scumlord sister punisher.

If a man fires a woman, OMG RAPE! OPPRESSION! THIS IS RAPE CULTURE! THIS IS WHY I NEED FEMINISM!

I need feminism because women being fired for not doing their jobs correctly is patriarchy. I envision a world where all female employees are lazy and worthless because they know they cannot be fired.
It's kinda fascinating, in a sick sort of way, to see how media handles this sort of stuff. When something happens to men, it's treated as a general problem, when the same thing happen to women, it's treated as a woman's issue that is extra bad and need extra attention (in the name of equality!).

Boys being burned alive by a terrorist group - meh everyday African problem. Girls being kidnapped by same terrorist group - OMG WOMEN BEING OPPRESSED! Now I don't mind media paying attention to Boko Haram, and yes I do very much get the media logic behing why 250 kidnapped girls become international news while 30 boys being burnt alive do not, but the flood of articles trying to make it into a women issue is quite bizarre to see. Boko Haram obviously are fine killing or fucking up anyone no matter of their gender, yet when they fuck up girls it's a "women's issue", but when they fuck up boys it's just a generic, non-gendered problem...
Any problem that affects men or boys by a statistically-significant margin is their own fault. Even if the main perpetrators of violence or abuse against those men/boys are women. Its still mens' fault. They must have done something to deserve it. Because patriarchy/privilege. Men want to commit suicide because of patriarchy. Men lose their sons to abusive mothers because of male privilege. Men get falsely accused of rape because, well, he must have done something to deserve it. Men who are beaten by their wives probably provoked their wives into beating them (but don't you dare suggest the reverse could be true for a man who beats his wife!) And we all know that men are incapable of being harmed by an abusive woman, because *men are so much stronger.* Don't talk to me about slut-shaming, you misogynist pig! But you know, of course men can't be raped by women, because if he got an erection, he must have wanted it. :naughty: It's horrible RAPE when an older male school teacher has sex with his 14 year-old female student, but it's a cute love story when an older female teacher has sex with her 14 year-old female student. :snooty: FGM is horrible, but circumcision is necessary because boys are filthy and gross. :snooty: A wife slapping her husband is acceptable, but a man withholding money from his wife is financial abuse! Male-only spaces are sexist and patriarchal, but womyn-only spaces are empowering and liberating!

And for any problem you mention, you'll always hear back that WOMEN SUFFER MORE, even if the problem is workplace death, life in a ghetto or warfare. :roll:

By contrast, any problem that affects any individual woman or girl is a huge societal problem we have to deal with right now, omg guys! Reblog and tumblr and tweet this to all your activist friends!! HASHTAG #SOLVETHISPROBLEMANINDIVIDUALWOMANISFACINGRIGHTNOW

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Kenteken wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Exactly, it seems she is working some agenda.
I could create such a trolling utopia at FTB if someone like Carrie were to lend me her accounts for a few days. :dance:

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Sabine Futura
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RuPaul is a transmisogynist cis male who encourages and normalises the use of transphobic slurs, I don't know why cis ppl listen to him on trans issues, except sometimes he looks like one of us, and cis ppl are too ignorant to know the difference.
Transmisogynist? Is this a new victim class? Does it refer to people who used to be misogynists and are transitioning out of misogyny? Or does it refer to people who grew up confused, feeling this urge to tell women to make them sandwiches, and they didn't realize until late in life, after they had already been treating women nicely for so many years, that they were secretly misogynists? Did they come out of the closet by screaming "bitch get back in the kitchen" to their daughters? Do they have misogyny pride parades now? They go down the street in groups screaming "You sluts need to cover up or you'll be raped and it will be 100% your fault!"

Transmisogyny sounds like a hard road. I can only hope these underprivileged victims make their transition. It's tough to feel like a misogynist trapped in an egalitarian's body.

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Pitchguest wrote:<snip>

Kidney stone. Fucking hell. Hope you never get it. Seriously.
Hope you're done with it now. From what I've seen kidney stones are hell.

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Pitchguest wrote:By the way, while I'm here (and reasonably well), I might as well tell you about the nightmarish situation that's occurred the past week.

It started with a visit to the emergency room. I was there for pain suspecting kidney stone. Got in after five minutes, spoke to a doctor and he listened to what I had to say. So far, so good. The hell began when I was assigned to a different ER. In Sweden the regions of the country are divided into groups, and in that group there are the smaller ER's and the big, main one, and that was the one I was assigned to. (For Swedish readers, that would be NÄL.) For reasons unknown to me I didn't eat before entering the ER and subsequently the waiting period that followed so I ended up becoming very, very, VERY hungry - famished, on the brink to insanity - and I waited for sixteen hours. And that's just the beginning. (Since they suspected kidney stone I wasn't allowed to eat or drink in case I needed immediate surgery.)

The pain that was only a tingle at first turned into a pinch which eventually turned into an intense throbbing jackhammer constantly pounding my left side, and it didn't help that everytime I requested something for the pain they took their sweet time coming back. During a roughly sixteen hour period, I was given two suppositories (one supposedly stronger than the other one), four paracetamols, three pills to ease my nausea and two to ease gastric acid from building, on top of several that was given intravenously. Apart from the nausea, nothing helped. After about twelve hours of nothing to eat, I was going mad. I could think of nothing else. I started making demands. Give me something! Anything! Whatever you can! I'm not proud of it, but then I wasn't exactly in my right mind. I was obsessed. But as I said, this was the only the beginning.

Eventually I was given a sandwich and a glass of water. But here's the thing: it didn't help. At that point I was already so worked up, or my body was already so worked up, that it didn't matter if I ate the sandwich or not. I was still anxious, still nauseous, still restless, still very much in pain.

After sixteen hours of waiting I finally had my x-ray. The x-ray showed I had a 6mm stone lodged on the urinary tract near the left kidney and I was swiftly (though one might argue not swiftly enough) driven back to the hospital where I'd started to have an operation. End of story? Not quite. The operation was successful. Kind of. It had lodged itself pretty hard and the surgeons didn't want to risk it so they shattered it into tinier pieces with laser, inserted a so-called "pigtail" catheter to lead the urine away from the area of the stone, and scheduled a second x-ray in two weeks. The problem? The first day following the operation was poison.

Whenever I sighed or exhaled I felt a painful pinch in my left side. I kept telling myself there was no problem but my body wouldn't listen. I couldn't calm down, I could hardly eat or drink, I couldn't sleep. It was, believe it or not, actually worse than the day before. But I figured it was just something temporary and would blow over in a few hours and I wasn't feeling particularly comfortable with the hospital environment (plus there was this guy who kept grinding his teeth which kept me awake), so after doing some mandatory tests before I could leave, I left and went for home. And it STARTED to feel a lot of better, familiar place, my own bed, cooler (the room in the hospital was very hot, then again I felt uncharacteristically warm the whole time). But it didn't last. If I sat down or laid down to rest, my body would go to overdrive. Simultaneously it felt like part of me was on fire and the other submerged in a vat of ice. The only thing that seemed to quiet it was when I moved around, so for HOURS I wandered around the apartment like a lost ghost.

(Or as a Swedish comedian once famously remarked to an Icelandic reporter, "I was so nervous, all I did was wank, wank, wank!" (The Swedish word for wander is "vanka.")

Anyway. I think I tuned it out eventually. Like an out-of-body experience. I hadn't slept for more than twenty four hours. I was a wreck. So because it had gotten so bad I had to go back to the hospital. I don't know what turned it around in the end, I don't really remember much, but I was released (again) the next day with a packet of sleeping pills (I still hadn't slept a wink), got back home, took the pills, and a plethora of other pills (mostly painkillers), and I think I must've collapsed. I have no recollection of anything past this point except for a craving hunger, something I hadn't had for two days. Or it could have been three days. Like I said, I don't remember. It's a bit fuzzy beyond this point. I went to the ER Friday last week, had the operation the night before Saturday. On second thought, it could've been four. All I know is, those three (alternatively four) days were murder. I never want to experience something like that again. I still have a bit of nausea, a bit of a sore throat, a bit of pain, now and again but it's trivial in comparison. It sounds sensationalistic when I write it out for all to see, and it was only for three/four days, but for me it felt like an age.

Kidney stone. Fucking hell. Hope you never get it. Seriously.
Had a kidney stone.. fucking fuck... they hurt. I was in so much pain I just stumbled around screaming till my wife took me to the hospital. Here in the US they start a IV right away and wack you up with some Dilaudid. Yeha! Fucking Dilaudid is love!

Why didn't those Swedish fuckers give you some dilaudid? Do they think you will become a junky in two days? Cruel fuckers those Swedes.

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John D wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:By the way, while I'm here (and reasonably well), I might as well tell you about the nightmarish situation that's occurred the past week.

It started with a visit to the emergency room. I was there for pain suspecting kidney stone.

<snip tale of horror>
Had a kidney stone.. fucking fuck... they hurt. I was in so much pain I just stumbled around screaming till my wife took me to the hospital. Here in the US they start a IV right away and wack you up with some Dilaudid. Yeha! Fucking Dilaudid is love!

Why didn't those Swedish fuckers give you some dilaudid? Do they think you will become a junky in two days? Cruel fuckers those Swedes.
How godawful, PG. Glad you're feeling better, finally.

I'm with John D. Why did it take so long to get the pain under control once you were in the emergency room? (On the other hand, you have access to health care, that's a good thing.)

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Linus wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:But I think you're misinterpreting Todd's use of the word "experimental." You're reading it as 'lab vs. field study', when I believe he means 'evidence-based vs. I-pulled-it-out-of-my-ass traditional psychology.' In any case, reliance on lab experiment vs. field observations does not make one field inherently superior to another.
I guess ethology can involve experimental manipulations (my bad), but my understanding is that it focuses on animals in their natural environment as opposed to the laboratory. Peter Todd does laboratory experiments in his approach to evo psych. It's possible he does field studies as well, but I'm quite certain that by "experimental" he doesn't simply mean "evidence based". Having spent the amount of time I have as a psych student, I can almost guarantee that it means controlled experiments. But you are right that "experimental" could include controlled experiments in the field / natural settings.

I agree that neither field observations nor laboratory experiments are inherently superior. Both have their pros and cons and should ultimately compliment each other.
I'm sure you're right on Todd's meaning. That was just my dig at psych, which for its first ninety years or so, was mostly about making shit up, like rolfing and ... Orgone Accumulators.

She should have made the subject of her talk "Beware bad evolutionary psychology in the media that promotes sexist stereotypes" and gotten rid of the generalizations and false claims about EP. Then it wouldn't have been a horrible talk IMO.
Instead of disingenuous sniping at the heels of EP, Becca should have come right out and stated, 'Evo Psych can't be for realz, cuz usn's sez humans haz no genetic-based behaviors.' And then made a case for pure plasticity. But she couldn't, because there is no such case, other than, "So say we all!'

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Kenteken wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Exactly, it seems she is working some agenda.
An agenda known as: 'Hey, look at me! Look at me! Hey, hey, over here, It's me, Carrie -- Look at me!'

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PZ has an opinion piece at time.com, religion section:

http://time.com/109050/a-nation-of-grow ... e-country/

I'd give it a C- for content & construction.

Aside from that, PZ, you may want to contact your editor there & have him/her/xir correct the typo in the bolded blurb at the top, which currently reads:
American religiosity is rapidly declining, bit [sic] it's no surprise that this trend is met with resistance and fear.
I'm a little surprised your editor didn't keep this sentence at the start of the 3rd paragraph from seeing the light of day without a rewrite:
As someone who speaks a fair amount at atheist conferences, Americans’ declining religiosity has been vivid over the last few decades: audiences are getting younger, larger and more diverse; there are rapidly rising numbers of new atheist organizations, especially among college-aged students; and atheism is attaining greater respectability and visibility.
And then there's the whole problem of having PZ Myers write about atheism in the US today, including ironic bits like his line about the internet allowing "fair and open exchange of ideas".

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PG, horrible situation. Glad you're on the other side of it.

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#CancelKidneyStones

Had them twice, had to call ambulance because I was passing out from the pains.

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Going to bed after this. First, thanks for all the pouncetugs. Second, why didn't they put me on painkiller sooner?

I ask myself that same question. After about twelve hours of experimenting with substances and pills that might help ease the pain, they gave me (intravenously) ketobemidone and after that some diazepam. The latter put me right out of commision for at least two hours. I don't really know for how long, I just know that my dad who was with me said I was knocked out almost straight away. I'd never had valium before, but holy shit is it effective. Good lord. The former took away the pain after a few minutes, but annoyingly it didn't eradicate the hunger I felt, nor the thirst, nor the dryness of my throat (I had no saliva, I couldn't speak, I had to hydrate dabbing a damp cloth on my tongue), nor the nausea that kept building, so it really did nothing except reduce the pain. Which was frustrating because I wondered why they hadn't done it sooner. If they had, maybe I wouldn't have been in the state I was in.

Anyway. It's a closed chapter and hopefully it will remain shut.

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I have PTKSD (Post Traumatic Kidney Stone Disorder) that I got while serving in the military. I was a punk kid who didn't know what kidney stones were. One day I was standing in the head next to a Marine passing a stone. It seemed painful. He tore the urinal off the wall. Since then, I've dreaded getting this affliction. I worried more about kidney stones than getting shot. I can only sympathize with those who have gone through this experience first hand and I never ever want to experience it. I'd rather take a shovel to the face.

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Mr Radio wrote:
Did this dumb bitch even check to see if "we" is the Pit's preferred pronoun? I/Aye/Eye/Eh/Oy feel erased and am going to blog so hard about this.
All of us "Otherkins" at the Slymepit should stick together!

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James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Inquiring bald men want to know.

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Linus wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Linus wrote:... Peter Todd, who lists "experimental approaches to evolutionary psychology" as one of his main research areas. However, his "experimental approaches" would not be consistent with Matt Cavanaugh's "ethology applied to homo sapiens". Ethology does not use controlled experiments.
The hell it doesn't. The field was essentially born with Tinbergen's controlled experiments on seagull chick feeding behavior. But I think you're misinterpreting Todd's use of the word "experimental." You're reading it as 'lab vs. field study', when I believe he means 'evidence-based vs. I-pulled-it-out-of-my-ass traditional psychology.' In any case, reliance on lab experiment vs. field observations does not make one field inherently superior to another.
I guess ethology can involve experimental manipulations (my bad), but my understanding is that it focuses on animals in their natural environment as opposed to the laboratory. Peter Todd does laboratory experiments in his approach to evo psych. It's possible he does field studies as well, but I'm quite certain that by "experimental" he doesn't simply mean "evidence based". Having spent the amount of time I have as a psych student, I can almost guarantee that it means controlled experiments. But you are right that "experimental" could include controlled experiments in the field / natural settings.

I agree that neither field observations nor laboratory experiments are inherently superior. Both have their pros and cons and should ultimately compliment each other.
I said she made valid points against "the specific studies" she chose to talk about. And you are saying no she didn't make valid points against "the field". Surely you can see the difference between "the specific studies" and "the field".
IIRC, the only EP paper Watson referenced was by a charlatan of low repute, whos' finding had already been thoroughly trashed by other EP researchers. For her to present that "specific study" as indicative of the entire field was fatuous as best, willfully deceptive more likely. The rest of her talk was filled by trite snarks such as 'cavewomen didn't gather purses and shoes from trees, QED.'
She should have made the subject of her talk "Beware bad evolutionary psychology in the media that promotes sexist stereotypes" and gotten rid of the generalizations and false claims about EP. Then it wouldn't have been a horrible talk IMO.
My God, a civil disagreement in which one person admitted they had their facts incorrect.

Where's the needless drama?
You two are a fucking disgrace to the internet.
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HBO just posted a shit ton of shows to Amazon Prime. So if you already pay for prime, you just got loads of top-quality HBO programming for free.

Also, my sympathies to Pitchguest about the kidney stones. That sounds horrible.

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Damn, Pitchguest, the kidney stone sounds horrific - hope you never have to suffer through one again. Did they tell you what the composition of the stone was? It seems that the incidence of certain kinds of kidney stones, in people who are prone to them, can be reduced by a few relatively minor dietary changes:

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/Kudiseases/ ... index.aspx

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Pitchguest wrote:By the way, while I'm here (and reasonably well), I might as well tell you about the nightmarish situation that's occurred the past week.

It started with a visit to the emergency room. I was there for pain suspecting kidney stone. Got in after five minutes, spoke to a doctor and he listened to what I had to say. So far, so good. The hell began when I was assigned to a different ER. In Sweden the regions of the country are divided into groups, and in that group there are the smaller ER's and the big, main one, and that was the one I was assigned to. (For Swedish readers, that would be NÄL.) For reasons unknown to me I didn't eat before entering the ER and subsequently the waiting period that followed so I ended up becoming very, very, VERY hungry - famished, on the brink to insanity - and I waited for sixteen hours. And that's just the beginning. (Since they suspected kidney stone I wasn't allowed to eat or drink in case I needed immediate surgery.)

The pain that was only a tingle at first turned into a pinch which eventually turned into an intense throbbing jackhammer constantly pounding my left side, and it didn't help that everytime I requested something for the pain they took their sweet time coming back. During a roughly sixteen hour period, I was given two suppositories (one supposedly stronger than the other one), four paracetamols, three pills to ease my nausea and two to ease gastric acid from building, on top of several that was given intravenously. Apart from the nausea, nothing helped. After about twelve hours of nothing to eat, I was going mad. I could think of nothing else. I started making demands. Give me something! Anything! Whatever you can! I'm not proud of it, but then I wasn't exactly in my right mind. I was obsessed. But as I said, this was the only the beginning.

Eventually I was given a sandwich and a glass of water. But here's the thing: it didn't help. At that point I was already so worked up, or my body was already so worked up, that it didn't matter if I ate the sandwich or not. I was still anxious, still nauseous, still restless, still very much in pain.

After sixteen hours of waiting I finally had my x-ray. The x-ray showed I had a 6mm stone lodged on the urinary tract near the left kidney and I was swiftly (though one might argue not swiftly enough) driven back to the hospital where I'd started to have an operation. End of story? Not quite. The operation was successful. Kind of. It had lodged itself pretty hard and the surgeons didn't want to risk it so they shattered it into tinier pieces with laser, inserted a so-called "pigtail" catheter to lead the urine away from the area of the stone, and scheduled a second x-ray in two weeks. The problem? The first day following the operation was poison.

Whenever I sighed or exhaled I felt a painful pinch in my left side. I kept telling myself there was no problem but my body wouldn't listen. I couldn't calm down, I could hardly eat or drink, I couldn't sleep. It was, believe it or not, actually worse than the day before. But I figured it was just something temporary and would blow over in a few hours and I wasn't feeling particularly comfortable with the hospital environment (plus there was this guy who kept grinding his teeth which kept me awake), so after doing some mandatory tests before I could leave, I left and went for home. And it STARTED to feel a lot of better, familiar place, my own bed, cooler (the room in the hospital was very hot, then again I felt uncharacteristically warm the whole time). But it didn't last. If I sat down or laid down to rest, my body would go to overdrive. Simultaneously it felt like part of me was on fire and the other submerged in a vat of ice. The only thing that seemed to quiet it was when I moved around, so for HOURS I wandered around the apartment like a lost ghost.

(Or as a Swedish comedian once famously remarked to an Icelandic reporter, "I was so nervous, all I did was wank, wank, wank!" (The Swedish word for wander is "vanka.")

Anyway. I think I tuned it out eventually. Like an out-of-body experience. I hadn't slept for more than twenty four hours. I was a wreck. So because it had gotten so bad I had to go back to the hospital. I don't know what turned it around in the end, I don't really remember much, but I was released (again) the next day with a packet of sleeping pills (I still hadn't slept a wink), got back home, took the pills, and a plethora of other pills (mostly painkillers), and I think I must've collapsed. I have no recollection of anything past this point except for a craving hunger, something I hadn't had for two days. Or it could have been three days. Like I said, I don't remember. It's a bit fuzzy beyond this point. I went to the ER Friday last week, had the operation the night before Saturday. On second thought, it could've been four. All I know is, those three (alternatively four) days were murder. I never want to experience something like that again. I still have a bit of nausea, a bit of a sore throat, a bit of pain, now and again but it's trivial in comparison. It sounds sensationalistic when I write it out for all to see, and it was only for three/four days, but for me it felt like an age.

Kidney stone. Fucking hell. Hope you never get it. Seriously.
I don't know you personally from a hole-in-the-head and yet I still feel for you.
Glad you pulled through and I do hope you never go through something like that again.
I really wish I could commiserate more with you but so far (lucky rabbits foot and all that) my only real hospital stay was two days and one night as a child for a pulled leg muscle.

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:

Shorter PG: "wut about Teh Menz?!"

Check your rapey male privilege. Come back and try again when the Patriarchy is sexually assaulting you via microaggressions on a daily basis.

Oh, and a "pigtail" catheter? Could you have made your whiny kidney stone story any more misogynistic? I'm literally shaking with rage, and it only gets worse when I think about how you have the nerve to complain about your "nightmarish situation" as if it's anything comparable to the rage I'm currently shaking with. Who the hell do you think you are? Why are you making this all about you? Tears are flowing down my red cheeks, I'm so angry. Are you happy now, fucker?
Go back to A+!!!!

*Well, actually go there and show those FAUX SJW how it is REALLY done!*

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[quote="John D"
Why didn't those Swedish fuckers give you some dilaudid? Do they think you will become a junky in two days? Cruel fuckers those Swedes.[/quote]


Why? Because they are VIKING SPAWN, motherfucker, and painkillers are for SISSIES!

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Dave2 wrote:
Linus wrote:She should have made the subject of her talk "Beware bad evolutionary psychology in the media that promotes sexist stereotypes" and gotten rid of the generalizations and false claims about EP. Then it wouldn't have been a horrible talk IMO.
No - it wouldn't have been a horrible talk.

It would have amounted to her getting on the stage, saying "beware bad evolutionary psychology in the media that promotes sexist stereotypes" and then getting off the stage.

So, one of her better talks.
You don't think she gave actual examples of bad evo psych in the media that promotes stereotypes?

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: I'm sure you're right on Todd's meaning. That was just my dig at psych, which for its first ninety years or so, was mostly about making shit up, like rolfing and ... Orgone Accumulators.
There was some good work back in the day by people like Hermann Ebbinghaus and a few others, but yeah as a whole it sucked until pretty recently.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Kenteken wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Exactly, it seems she is working some agenda.
An agenda known as: 'Hey, look at me! Look at me! Hey, hey, over here, It's me, Carrie -- Look at me!'
I might be tempted to say that she just enjoys gossip. But if she is actually checking with a lawyer prior to spilling that latest tidbit, that clearly goes well beyond the love of gossip.

Bleeding heart based cause overload?

How long do you think it will take prior to her turning sour on PETA? Most anyone who has done a decent shred of research on PETA have dumped them from their cause list.

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I agree with the others, Pitchguest. I just had surgery for an inguinal hernia, and as bad as the pain is now...yours sounds worse than mine. Glad you're better.

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Linus wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
Linus wrote:She should have made the subject of her talk "Beware bad evolutionary psychology in the media that promotes sexist stereotypes" and gotten rid of the generalizations and false claims about EP. Then it wouldn't have been a horrible talk IMO.
No - it wouldn't have been a horrible talk.

It would have amounted to her getting on the stage, saying "beware bad evolutionary psychology in the media that promotes sexist stereotypes" and then getting off the stage.

So, one of her better talks.
You don't think she gave actual examples of bad evo psych in the media that promotes stereotypes?
I'd agree with that, with the inclusion that her talk was another bad example. Unfortunately, that wasn't her point, just a side effect of her talk.

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Ouch Pitch! Glad you're better, have some rest. Cheers!

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Never had a kidney stone (yet), cross my fingers. I did once bruise a kidney after a bad bicycle accident. Sounds funny, but I was in the hospital for a week, and it was hell the whole time. There's something about kidney injuries. I guess there's a reason punching someone in the kidneys is considered dirty fighting.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Kenteken wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:I wonder just how many rumors about famous atheist skeptics being sexual abusers/rapists can trace themselves back to Carrie Poppy... And no further.
Exactly, it seems she is working some agenda.
An agenda known as: 'Hey, look at me! Look at me! Hey, hey, over here, It's me, Carrie -- Look at me!'
If only it were just that. I have a close friend who knows Carrie Poppy only too well. From what he's told me of her she is a poisonous character who will do and say anything to push her agenda of the week; each one of which is a rung on a social climbing ladder to her becoming an established voice. Others have told me similar things about her. I have heard her been called a sociopath, an "issue whore" and a "toffee nosed Stalin". All by people who formerly knew her and all from people who were on the left, some of whom, if they were younger and more naive, could be described as SJW's.

Normally I'd not bother with hearsay but if it's good enough for her to use as a weapon then it's good enough for her to be beaten with it.

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@ Pitchguest.

You have my sympathies. I've never suffered from them myself but have known a few of my friends who have, one of whom said it was like giving birth to a razor blade.

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TheMan wrote:Celebrities read mean tweets about themselves... hilarious.

[youtube]imW392e6XR0[/youtube]
"David Blaine looks like his voice is putting his face to sleep" is actually pretty good.

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paddybrown wrote:
TheMan wrote:Celebrities read mean tweets about themselves... hilarious.

[youtube]imW392e6XR0[/youtube]
"David Blaine looks like his voice is putting his face to sleep" is actually pretty good.
Hilarious. Especially the last 2.

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James Caruthers wrote:Transmisogyny sounds like a hard road. I can only hope these underprivileged victims make their transition. It's tough to feel like a misogynist trapped in an egalitarian's body.
:)

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Atheism Plus "Recommended" list of comic books, movies and series.

Highlights:
Of course, we could go the other direction like the hivemind site did, and name it something the detractors would go for. Like A+ Thought Control Pearl Safety Fainting Couch for Manginas and Lesser Wussies and Self-appointed Dictators of All Atheism and Also Taliban I Guess List. A+ Recommended List tho. That doesn't sound bad.
I don't know if I can grade an anime fairly on racism since all the characters are Japanese and therefore PoC
Maybe add, like, a shaming category for slut shaming, body shaming, fat shaming etc. and an ageism category as well.
I can't think of any media that isn't fail somehow.
No comments necessary.

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For some reason I thought some of you might get a kick out of this. I did
http://blog.estately.com/2014/05/you-ca ... h-history/

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Linus wrote:You don't think she gave actual examples of bad evo psych in the media that promotes stereotypes?
I don't think she gave a single example that wasn't somehow wrong or irrelevant for EP as practised. Media distortion - where she mentioned it - was generally down to the habits of journalists. This she laid at the feet of the scientists and she was overwhelmingly incorrect. And I'm not talking pedantic quibbles or captious gotcha type stuff from those who object to her talk, I mean she's just fucking misleading people.

There are a couple of times when she comes close to a genuine complaint - like the Kanazawa example I gave earlier - but like that example there's always some fundamental misconception at work (to repeat, in the Kanazawa case she presents something he gave as a list of optional ideas as his holistic impression, and so on).

What is it she said that you take to be a genuine problem for EP?

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