Bleeding from the Bunghole

[Tribble]

I forgot to mention a U-2 buzzed me yesterday (there's a base nearby) and today there was a stream of firefighting planes directly overhead.

Well, it still hasn't found what it's looking for.

Anyway, Alex Gabriel fits right in. Writes a post on that Cardemon guy (who it seems is the darling of the SJWs) on how we need to get people to stop asking for coffee when they mean sex, or something like it. I think his mom told him he was funny or something. Yawn.

He's probably ok with the 90%+ rejection rate of initial contact. Initial contact, I've noticed in my life, that is seldom made by girls/women and they would much, much better at because, as far as I can tell, most guys would at least settle with anyone that's interested in them.

I also saw the Stefunny article on the Beast "interview". I read it and thought it a parody as well. But she is so confident she even added an update. Of course, this is the one who got their own hosting service wrong, so take that for what you will. Considering that Shermer hasn't directly said anything about PZ's allegations, probably on the advice of a lawyer, does she (or anyone else) think he would give an interview on it? Seriously?

I just did a google search on "sheerer" "beast" and "interview" and saw the storify that elevatorgate did. I saw Renee saying these were an email exchange. So far, the only source we have is the beast, and I think the bias is a bit noticeable, so I'm still skeptical that it was even an email exchange - I'd hate to think Shermer was that stupid, but I could be wrong. Anyone have anything on this? Any twitter followers of Shermer know if he has seen this or responded? I can't believe the usual suspects didn't send it to him to gloat, although they may have all blocked him with the Block Bot, so who knows.

It's a sticky one. I think The Beast gets it right with the libel. At least in the early parts. But there is confidentiality case law and there is potential 'run afoul' of that. In my old careers everything was confidential and required a subpoena to disclose so I don't know the ins-and-outs as it was 'keep your mouth shut at all times.'

[Tribble]

New research reveals that highly sexualized advances from boys as young as middle school are the norm. 15 year-old boys are texting their peers for Fellate Dates

I always take these reports with a grain of salt. Every couple of years there's a new panic about some fad the kids are doing, and they inevitably turn out not to be true. Remember "rainbow parties", where a bunch of girls wear different colored lipstick and blow a kid until his dick looks like a rainbow? Or remember girls inserting vodka soaked tampons to get buzzed?*

*Fun Fact: Rebecca Watson's tampons aren't vodka soaked until she removes them.

I think this one might be true, at least in the UK. There was a documentary (Either BBC or Channel 4) a year or so ago that followed up on this kind of research and found that children were indeed sexting and sending naked pictures to their peers at far younger ages (like 10-13).

We never did that as kids. We had to take pictures, get them developed, then distribute them. Took a LOT of effort and then there was the embarrassment of Mom picking up your photos from Walgreens and going through them and giving you the lecture of how we don't take pictures of 12-year-old Mr. Happy because Dirty Old Men will see them.

Just saying.

[Gefan]

It is entirely possible that I may have too much free time on my hands...

[youtube]xl9kGhLKkbI[/youtube]

Cease and Desist from Natalie Merchant arriving in...3...2...1...

[Tribble]

It is entirely possible that I may have too much free time on my hands...

[youtube]xl9kGhLKkbI[/youtube]

Cease and Desist from Natalie Merchant arriving in...3...2...1...

I for one am glad you have so much time on your hands. You're doing a great job with your videos.

[Linus]

Social Sciences are part of STEM.

Sociology is a soft baby science, much like psychology. Too soft as of right now to be of any real application.

I can't speak to sociology, but psychology is absolutely a science and has real applications. Calling it "soft" doesn't really mean much.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

He tried working outside his field on a few occasions and didn't do very well.

Like when he bolloxed the space shuttle crash investigation?

[welch]

New research reveals that highly sexualized advances from boys as young as middle school are the norm. 15 year-old boys are texting their peers for Fellate Dates

I always take these reports with a grain of salt. Every couple of years there's a new panic about some fad the kids are doing, and they inevitably turn out not to be true. Remember "rainbow parties", where a bunch of girls wear different colored lipstick and blow a kid until his dick looks like a rainbow? Or remember girls inserting vodka soaked tampons to get buzzed?*

*Fun Fact: Rebecca Watson's tampons aren't vodka soaked until she removes them.

I think Snopes, or one of the other similar sites talked about this. It happens a couple times a generation. I think when I was in high school, supposedly, it was nothing but coke whores. We were all doing mountains of coke off of cheerleader tits or something silly.

Basically, older people don't like what younger people are doing and make shit up to justify it.

[welch]

I've been reading various messageboards on the skeptical blogosphere regarding the likelihood that PZ's accusations against Shermer constitute libel and it's just making me more confused.
There seems to be two serious groups of people arguing the point (let's ignore the pharyngulite horde who are just true believers in whatever Big Blogger writes)

Group 1.
PZ published a de facto libel against Shermer - an accusation that Shermer is a serial rapist.
He doesn't have any mitigating factors (save the unlikely chance that the charge can be proven true.)
He will lose big.

Group 2.
PZ is in the clear because he had a sincere belief that the accuser was telling the truth, and he simply passed on the words of the actual accuser. Therefore he did not commit a libel against Shermer.

Now to me I am having a great difficulty in accepting that the arguments of group 2 will stand up in court, for the simple reason that these kind of allegations almost NEVER appear in serious news publications. Given the drama of making such accusations, they would be prime sources of publicity for print news media, tabloids, internet news sites etc.

Why aren't the news sites filled with such salacious gossip (such and such hollywood star or politician is a serial rapist, child molestor or murderer)
Sure, if police are involved and an arrest is made THEN the stories suddenly come out, but not beforehand.

This factor leaves me with the impression that the argument of group 2 does not correspond with the law as understood by journalists.

This won't be the trial order as Shermer is plaintiff and controls some aspects while Myers, as defendant, controls others.

1. Accusations of rape are per se defamation. That is, Shermer, barring Myers has actual, credible proof of Shermer raping a woman, has lost the per se phase of defamation. Failing proof of rape, we go to Stage 2:

2. Myers puts on a 'public person' defense. That is, Shermer is a Public Person or Limited Public Person and must prove malice OR reckless disregard to its truth. Shermer will have to go with reckless disregard unless Myers left a smoking gun of malice in his back-channel. Also, Myers does have a history of being a malicious turd, but I don't how much that will play into the actual malice standard.

3, Damages. Those will have to be demonstrated and can include punative as well as actual damages.

4. Complications. Myers will use inapplicable or novel defense stratagies such as Innocent Dissemination. Juries can get confused and loud-mouthed, biased jurors can sway the vote to either direction.

5. Collections. It can take time. Twana Bradley, the lying girl who claimed she was raped by Steven Pagones has finally been found and her wages garnished. Bradley made these charges in 1987. Pagones got his first garnishment check of $627 in early August or so.

I bet the warrants for the server data are flying fast and furious right now. I wonder if PZ and Brayton expected their host to protect them. Because if so, as soon as the first one showed up, that's fiction. Everyone I know in that business says the same thing: "We won't allow any access until the legal docs show up. Then we allow whatever access is in the warrant, and the client wishes are immaterial."

[justinvacula]

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[debaser71]

Fair enough.

Every field has its fringe elements. Even String Theory has nothing testable so far, but someone thinks it's worth pursuing. And you never know, sometimes thinking about why a marginal theory doesn't quite work tells you more than thinking about why a better one does.

The thing that gets me riled up enough to go keyboard warrior is that most fields are judged by their best practitioners, but mine tends to be judged by its worst. No one looked at the Cold Fusion bunglers and said "Ha ha! Chemists are ALL booger heads!" But let a social scientist say something stupid in public and even Card Carrying Skeptics decide that's all they need to know.

I know how you feel. It's probably because many people feel that they have strong intuitive answers to the problems that social scientists deal with, and it's easier to mock when a social scientist says something silly (hard to mock a crazy physicist if you have absolutely no clue what they're on about). Most people interact with other humans on a daily basis, whereas they probably never touch a chem lab outside of highschool, this probably adds to the feeling of being an 'expert' or at least having an informed opinion on social science. If we've learned anything from research on risk and judgement it's that peoples' intuitions are pretty shoddy.

And some people took (or work professionally in) physics, astronomy, chemistry, or other real science and can spot wanna-be science rather easily.

[jmpea81]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

[yomomma]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

But if he were a woman, wouldn't this be considered attempted rape?

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Every field has its fringe elements. Even String Theory has nothing testable so far, but someone thinks it's worth pursuing. And you never know, sometimes thinking about why a marginal theory doesn't quite work tells you more than thinking about why a better one does.

String has testable claims -- our testing methods just aren't up to the task yet. Kinda like how Darwin made a claim about some unseen randomizing agent, that later turned out to be DNA. Or the Higgs boson.

Not sure if you intended to frame a forty year-old field that dominates many physics departments and publications as "fringe" or "marginal".

[Tribble]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

Sounds like a 'just so' story. Of course, that's because I've come to the point in my life that I don't believe a fucking thing he says seeing as how easy and fast the lies, bullshit and self-justifications drop from his poison pen.

[yomomma]

Wait a minute. I think there might be something more going on here.

Reread this part:

"It was an opportunity lost because signals were misunderstood. And you know, it also struck me that many women who have the potential to be my good friends could be feeling exactly what I felt that night — that good company can be made awkward by unreturned desire, and that while there’s nothing wrong with desire, there’s also nothing wrong with lacking it, while sharing other interests."

That part is interesting. I wonder if it's about Becky, or the women who may be rejecting him, but feeling awkward about his persistence?

[jmpea81]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

But if he were a woman, wouldn't this be considered attempted rape?

Of course. There is also some elevator intersectionality involved. Add that kind of confined space with the question for coffee, and PZ might just have logged on to the university VAX and post a damning message ("Gays, don't do that")... nah. Never.

Whatever he writes nowadays, I don't feel like giving him the tiniest bit of trust that would be sufficient to take anything he says at face value.

[windy]

And some people took (or work professionally in) physics, astronomy, chemistry, or other real science and can spot wanna-be science rather easily.

Yes, just ask Nerd of Redhead.

[Ä uest]

Wait a minute. I think there might be something more going on here.

Reread this part:

"It was an opportunity lost because signals were misunderstood. And you know, it also struck me that many women who have the potential to be my good friends could be feeling exactly what I felt that night — that good company can be made awkward by unreturned desire, and that while there’s nothing wrong with desire, there’s also nothing wrong with lacking it, while sharing other interests."

That part is interesting. I wonder if it's about Becky, or the women who may be rejecting him, but feeling awkward about his persistence?

It seems to make sense only if you believe that even today (since "have the potential" is present and/or future tense) PZ awkwardly tries to pick up shit tons of women who are skeeved off.

[Ä uest]

I recommend this video, "Nail him to the wall": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE9VfmsjVz8

:clap: :clap: :clap:

I'm Gumby dammit, and I approve this message.

(Although I am sick of the "vidding while driving" schtick).

I think Dillahunty should stfu and drive, and I think this guy needs to keep his eyes on the damn road as well.

[yomomma]

Of course. There is also some elevator intersectionality involved. Add that kind of confined space with the question for coffee, and PZ might just have logged on to the university VAX and post a damning message ("Gays, don't do that")... nah. Never.

Yeah, I picked up on that too. The hypocrisy is staggering.

[debaser71]

We never did that as kids. We had to take pictures, get them developed, then distribute them. Took a LOT of effort and then there was the embarrassment of Mom picking up your photos from Walgreens and going through them and giving you the lecture of how we don't take pictures of 12-year-old Mr. Happy because Dirty Old Men will see them.

Just saying.

As a parent I would find value in public service announcements regarding video taping, what is and what is not appropriate. Oh first world troubles!

[Verklagekasper]

Crommie and the Queen, getting snippy with each other about that Fuson guy.

http://i.imgur.com/VsLSE0q.png

Isn't it odd how she references the lynching of black people, out of context? If you talk with a PoC about something absolutely unrelated to race, it's pathetic if all you can think about is "black, black, black". I don't understand why Crommunist puts up with this bs.

[yomomma]

It seems to make sense only if you believe that even today (since "have the potential" is present and/or future tense) PZ awkwardly tries to pick up shit tons of women who are skeeved off.

Wouldn't surprise me if many of those women have written him and called him out on it, in the wake of the Salem witch trials.

[Guest]

The difference is that physics and chemistry have delivered tangible results for society for several centuries now.

[hostile] No, the difference is that social sciences speak to things people think they already understand, and frequently say things they don't want to hear. It's like everyone's a biblical literalist and we're studying fossils. [/hostile]

This wasn't meant as provocation. Take away the insights from physics and chemistry and we are back in the 18th century. This is clear to most people, the impact of social sciences on the other hand is not that obvious.

Ultimately to answer your question you will probably need to conduct some social science and collect empirical data on this...

Every field has its fringe elements. Even String Theory has nothing testable so far, but someone thinks it's worth pursuing. And you never know, sometimes thinking about why a marginal theory doesn't quite work tells you more than thinking about why a better one does.

String has testable claims -- our testing methods just aren't up to the task yet. Kinda like how Darwin made a claim about some unseen randomizing agent, that later turned out to be DNA. Or the Higgs boson.

Not sure if you intended to frame a forty year-old field that dominates many physics departments and publications as "fringe" or "marginal".

I take all my info on string theory from Peter Woit. His observation is that ST is on the way out in terms of new people starting in the field. But of course he might be tainted by confirmation bias.

[debaser71]

And some people took (or work professionally in) physics, astronomy, chemistry, or other real science and can spot wanna-be science rather easily.

Yes, just ask Nerd of Redhead.

Who? Floosh guy? Doesn't this person also espouse notions of privilege, patriarchy, rape culture, etc? Sounds like he eats some social science right up.

[Hemisphere]

And some people took (or work professionally in) physics, astronomy, chemistry, or other real science and can spot wanna-be science rather easily.

Yes, just ask Nerd of Redhead.

NoR is clearly just operating on a different level of genius. There's no way that someone who studies real science could possibly be as ignorant and as dimwitted as the average person.

[bhoytony]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

I expect a lot of people will call me a bigot for this, but I could never mix with those sort of people and I find their lifestyle distasteful, shameful and downright strange. I'm sorry, perhaps it's just the way I was raised, but I don't want anything to do with the kind of people who would play wargames, yeech!

[Git]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

I expect a lot of people will call me a bigot for this, but I could never mix with those sort of people and I find their lifestyle distasteful, shameful and downright strange. I'm sorry, perhaps it's just the way I was raised, but I don't want anything to do with the kind of people who would play wargames, yeech!

As a 3.5 D&Der I feel the same about 1st Edition.

[Git]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

I expect a lot of people will call me a bigot for this, but I could never mix with those sort of people and I find their lifestyle distasteful, shameful and downright strange. I'm sorry, perhaps it's just the way I was raised, but I don't want anything to do with the kind of people who would play wargames, yeech!

As a 3.5 D&Der I feel the same about 1st Edition.

Or people who only have Alliance characters (FOR THE HORDE!!!)

[Git]

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2 ... 30z5xz.jpg

[bhoytony]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

I expect a lot of people will call me a bigot for this, but I could never mix with those sort of people and I find their lifestyle distasteful, shameful and downright strange. I'm sorry, perhaps it's just the way I was raised, but I don't want anything to do with the kind of people who would play wargames, yeech!

As a 3.5 D&Der I feel the same about 1st Edition.

Like I said, distasteful, shameful and downright strange.

P.S. I also hate cats.

and children

[LurkerPerson]

If you wanted to be a complete doucehbag, you could probably score SJW points by saying wargamers trivialize one of the worst things in the world (war) for their own petty enjoyment. Maybe throw in something about social constructionism and male attitudes towards violence and obsession with death, promotion of imperialism/colonialism. Also can't forget about the race thing, probably they enjoyed wargames due to being white, because PoC abhor war and are way more affected by the consequences of it on average than any priviledged honky. All bullshit of course, but proper SJW bullshit that hits many of the right notes.

[welch]

Social Sciences are part of STEM.

Sociology is a soft baby science, much like psychology. Too soft as of right now to be of any real application.

I can't speak to sociology, but psychology is absolutely a science and has real applications. Calling it "soft" doesn't really mean much.

The whole "is it real" thing strikes me as silly, and slagging a field of study because it's different from yours or has fringe idiots in it makes little sense. Philosophy isn't exactly the most concrete field, you won't use it to build a house, or whatever. But, the idea of studying how and why we think about things the way we do isn't idiocy just because it's not something else. There's a lot of value in that, if nothing else, I don't see any other way to help people be more self-aware. Chemistry and physics are great for a lot of things, but they're kind of useless for that. Well chemistry may accidentally help, but LSD is a bit random.

As someone else said, sociologists who are actually trying to do good work aren't in the news all the time. They're too busy studying and doing work to blow casting agents for a slot on GMA. Yes, there are a lot of people in the psych field who view their entire job as that of a pharmacy agent, but that doesn't mean the entire field is crap.

[bhoytony]

If you wanted to be a complete doucehbag, you could probably score SJW points by saying wargamers trivialize one of the worst things in the world (war) for their own petty enjoyment. Maybe throw in something about social constructionism and male attitudes towards violence and obsession with death, promotion of imperialism/colonialism. Also can't forget about the race thing, probably they enjoyed wargames due to being white, because PoC abhor war and are way more affected by the consequences of it on average than any priviledged honky. All bullshit of course, but proper SJW bullshit that hits many of the right notes.

I'd probably just say they are supposed to be grown ups and they are playing kid's games they got in their Christmas stockings.

[Git]

I expect a lot of people will call me a bigot for this, but I could never mix with those sort of people and I find their lifestyle distasteful, shameful and downright strange. I'm sorry, perhaps it's just the way I was raised, but I don't want anything to do with the kind of people who would play wargames, yeech!

As a 3.5 D&Der I feel the same about 1st Edition.

Like I said, distasteful, shameful and downright strange.

P.S. I also hate cats.

and children

You big grump you.

[Tribble]

And some people took (or work professionally in) physics, astronomy, chemistry, or other real science and can spot wanna-be science rather easily.

Yes, just ask Nerd of Redhead.

NoR is clearly just operating on a different level of genius. There's no way that someone who studies real science could possibly be as ignorant and as dimwitted as the average person.

And with Nerd, that's certainly true. He is not as dimwitted as the average person. He has taken dimwitted to entirely new levels. If they made a Nobel Prize for Obliviously Dimwitted, he'd win the first one and they'd have to retire the award.

[Shitting Jesus]

You just know he's on the vinegar strokes in that profile pic.

Yeah, you'll fit right in here.

I'm still staying away from your "Alaskan Pipeline" reference.

Christ almighty. If I hadn''t already wanked myself into a blood-soaked near-coma watching the "Purity" video, the concept of an Alaskan Pipeline would just about put the tin hat on it.

[Jan Steen]

The print is a bit small, but you can click on the magnifying glass icon to see a larger version.

[.url=http://s225.photobucket.com/user/gumbyt ... 3.png.html]http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... 46a4f3.png[/url]

I like it. :lol:

I had a related idea for a 'shop, but am suffering from Greta Christina syndrome right now, so let me just describe it here.

A largely empty book store. In a corner, behind a small table with stacks of The Happy Atheist, sits Peezus. Nobody is paying attention to him, except for this old lady who holds a book up to him and says: "Can you sign this please? It's for my daughter." The book is Gardening for Dummies.

hahaha.

I had somewhat the same idea for the second panel of my shop, except it involved PZ at his book signing, alone except for your Nerd of Redhead robot saying "Please make mine out to 'To Nerd of Redhead, my most rational commenter, love PZ'". To which PZ replies "Just pay Mr. Shermer and get the fuck out!" Shermer would be standing behind a cash register labeled "DAMAGES", with a big smile on his face.

I almost PM'ed you asking for permission to borrow your Nerdbot character, but I decided to just go with the empty parking lot idea. Much simpler :)

You or anybody else are welcome to (ab)use the Nerdbot in any way you like. Here is a 'shop that should make this easier to do.

http://i.imgur.com/2me79Sv.jpg

[Percentage]

Is Watson seriously trying to claim that that gloating malicious post about Cecil Fuson was "making a point"? Jesus Christ. Own your shit, woman.

[Shitting Jesus]

It is entirely possible that I may have too much free time on my hands...

[youtube]xl9kGhLKkbI[/youtube]

Cease and Desist from Natalie Merchant arriving in...3...2...1...

Brilliant! Although - and we all get it wrong sometimes, even the most progressive of us - the rubber horn effect at the end may trigger people who've been run over by a bicycle. JUST ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG AND APOLOGIZE.
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN, WEASELCANOEHOLE.

[Zenspace]

While Mykeru's latest shops are all about the dark, creepy, terrible truths (and are fantastic),

Love the playful Gumby shop.
Love the playful Jan thought.
But god help me, both of them actually engage, minimal though it is, my sympathy for PZ!
Aww.. poor PZ! 'The happy atheist', so lonely and sad and old and horrible and gone wrong.

I've been pretty successful at getting through life without wishing truly bad things on people. But I have absolutely zero sympathy for Myers, and hope he gets the misery he so richly deserves.

I'm sick of him and his insufferably smug self-elected position as judgment-casting "moral guardian" of the community. I'm sick of the fact that for years now, he has been pointing his pudgy finger at people who don't kowtow to him and smearing them as Lepines, misogynists, dudebros, and rapists. And I'm sick of this rabid collection of unskeptical, unthinking and hysterical sycophants he calls his "Horde", those cultish bottom-feeders he sends fanning out across the internet to do his bidding by disrupting the whole community and spreading his libels, with no regard for the feelings, rights or reputations of others.

Myers doesn't deserve the least bit of sympathy. Like all self-appointed religious moral guardians, he shows himself to be vastly more immoral than the "sinners" he condemns. He deserves to end up a bitter and broken old man shitting himself in his wheechair in some neglected state-run nursing home, looking back on his life and realizing in horror that it could have all gone so differently if he hadn't royally fucked it all up by being a weapons-grade unethical and unscrupulous shitstain.

Fuck PZ Myers, and fuck his ignorant, limp-dicked "horde". I hope Shermer and his lawyers. accomplish the civil litigation equivalent of ramming a broken bottle up PZ's ass, because this shit needs to stop. Now. Otherwise it just gets worse and worse.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I walk the same path. The world is a big and varied place and not for one second do I entertain the idea that my opinions on anything carry any weight whatsoever beyond my front door. Accordingly, I am very big on live and let live and wishing no ill towards anyone. That said, there is a class of human whose entirety of self-worth is based on building themselves up by pushing others down. Myers is one of those sorry bastards, and he has gathered his so called Horde of like minded little sycophantic attack monkeys (with apologies to the rest of the worlds monkeys, no insult intended) to spread as much misery as possible towards anyone who even hints at disagreement.

For this type, I hold neither empathy nor sympathy. I hope Shermer grinds him into legal dust, but I'm not going to get any joy out of it, just the satisfaction of knowing that miserable bullshit behavior can occasionally be stopped.

[justinvacula]

The Daily Dot
"Misogynist trolls have turned Storify into a harassment tool"
http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/eleva ... arassment/

Online harassment has completely taken over Melody Hensley's life.

As an atheist and feminist activist, Hensley said, she was a target for "atheist misogynists" and men's rights activists. She was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, which on Thursday prevented her from leaving home to go to an unfamiliar place.

Hensley wants to know the identity of the man who she claims is behind a two-year harassment campaign on Storify against her and numerous other women.

Now, Watson has a cadre of bullies sending her threats. Even so, she says ElevatorGate has been stalking her for years. He used Twitter, a blog, and YouTube to share dirt he found on Watson, make up lies, and leave insulting messages on her videos, she told the Daily Dot over email. This was before he got to Storify.

"Either he was simply obsessed with me with no endgame in mind or else he was actively trying to scare me. Judging by the fact that he has moved on to harassing other outspoken feminists, I'd say the latter," she said.

Hensley, executive director of the Center for Inquiry in Washington and organizer of the Women in Secularism national conference, spoke out early on when ElevatorGate targeted Watson, a friend of hers. Hensley said her PTSD was a direct result of his harassment, along with a cybermob of more than 400 people, including men's rights activists.

"I was being Storified every single tweet by ElevatorGate and still am to this day. This has been going on for nearly two years. I know I'm constantly being monitored," she told the Daily Dot. "[ElevatorGate] spends all day and all night doing this. I'm quite certain he doesn't have a job. He's definitely obsessive."

At a broader level, Watson says she receives insults and threats every day. "Despite the fact that I can deal with it better than most, it's very difficult," she said, noting she's had prescription medication for anxiety and depression.

Same old bullshit.

[yomomma]

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.)



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[yomomma]

And with Nerd, that's certainly true. He is not as dimwitted as the average person. He has taken dimwitted to entirely new levels. If they made a Nobel Prize for Obliviously Dimwitted, he'd win the first one and they'd have to retire the award.

If we had the ability to up-vote a post, I'd create a 1,000 sock puppets for this one.

[dogen]

The Daily Dot
"Misogynist trolls have turned Storify into a harassment tool"
http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/eleva ... arassment/

Online harassment has completely taken over Melody Hensley's life.

As an atheist and feminist activist, Hensley said, she was a target for "atheist misogynists" and men's rights activists. She was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, which on Thursday prevented her from leaving home to go to an unfamiliar place.

Hensley wants to know the identity of the man who she claims is behind a two-year harassment campaign on Storify against her and numerous other women.

Now, Watson has a cadre of bullies sending her threats. Even so, she says ElevatorGate has been stalking her for years. He used Twitter, a blog, and YouTube to share dirt he found on Watson, make up lies, and leave insulting messages on her videos, she told the Daily Dot over email. This was before he got to Storify.

"Either he was simply obsessed with me with no endgame in mind or else he was actively trying to scare me. Judging by the fact that he has moved on to harassing other outspoken feminists, I'd say the latter," she said.

Hensley, executive director of the Center for Inquiry in Washington and organizer of the Women in Secularism national conference, spoke out early on when ElevatorGate targeted Watson, a friend of hers. Hensley said her PTSD was a direct result of his harassment, along with a cybermob of more than 400 people, including men's rights activists.

"I was being Storified every single tweet by ElevatorGate and still am to this day. This has been going on for nearly two years. I know I'm constantly being monitored," she told the Daily Dot. "[ElevatorGate] spends all day and all night doing this. I'm quite certain he doesn't have a job. He's definitely obsessive."

At a broader level, Watson says she receives insults and threats every day. "Despite the fact that I can deal with it better than most, it's very difficult," she said, noting she's had prescription medication for anxiety and depression.

Fuck, I can get vodka on prescription???!!!!

[Aneris]

Breaking News

Following Slate's example, Ed Brayton and PZ Myers, now working like journalists, have begun to release corrections to claims made on their blog network FreeThoughtBlogs to the #Corrections hashtag. Twitter went temporarily down. A twitter representative: “We’re adding new servers to accommodate the flood of tweets”. Then I woke up.

You're too fast, I'm pages behind.

[justinvacula]

[youtube]gXloqvGehqE[/youtube]

[Zenspace]

It is entirely possible that I may have too much free time on my hands...

[youtube]xl9kGhLKkbI[/youtube]

Cease and Desist from Natalie Merchant arriving in...3...2...1...

:lol:

The actor credits are priceless!

[Zenspace]

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.)



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Well, if you we're wondering if the lawyers might be lurking at the Pyt, that might be a bit of a clue.

Unfortunately, they don't seem to recognize a joke when they see it.

Damn newbies. :doh:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I take all my info on string theory from Peter Woit. His observation is that ST is on the way out in terms of new people starting in the field. But of course he might be tainted by confirmation bias.

I have a thing or two to say about Woit, but I'm not going to engage someone who won't use a goddamn 'nym.

[Zenspace]

[youtube]gXloqvGehqE[/youtube]

Ok. It's official. I really like Brian Dalton and it is time to subscribe.

[Kevin Solway]

"Online harassment has completely taken over Melody Hensley's life"

Who is this "Online Harassment" guy? Is this her new boyfriend?

And why are these "bad guys" always so popular with the ladies?

[Zenspace]

...and Matt Cavavaugh blows my first trifecta.

Fucker.

:naughty:

[uberfeminist]

"Online harassment has completely taken over Melody Hensley's life"

Who is this "Online Harassment" guy? Is this her new boyfriend?

And why are these "bad guys" always so popular with the ladies?

Are you referring to the Holt article?

It says Hensley was prevented from doing something. But I don't get that from reading Melody's tweets. It seems she was terrified of something, but did it anyways...?

:?

[welch]

The Daily Dot
"Misogynist trolls have turned Storify into a harassment tool"
http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/eleva ... arassment/

Online harassment has completely taken over Melody Hensley's life.

As an atheist and feminist activist, Hensley said, she was a target for "atheist misogynists" and men's rights activists. She was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, which on Thursday prevented her from leaving home to go to an unfamiliar place.

Hensley wants to know the identity of the man who she claims is behind a two-year harassment campaign on Storify against her and numerous other women.

Now, Watson has a cadre of bullies sending her threats. Even so, she says ElevatorGate has been stalking her for years. He used Twitter, a blog, and YouTube to share dirt he found on Watson, make up lies, and leave insulting messages on her videos, she told the Daily Dot over email. This was before he got to Storify.

"Either he was simply obsessed with me with no endgame in mind or else he was actively trying to scare me. Judging by the fact that he has moved on to harassing other outspoken feminists, I'd say the latter," she said.

Hensley, executive director of the Center for Inquiry in Washington and organizer of the Women in Secularism national conference, spoke out early on when ElevatorGate targeted Watson, a friend of hers. Hensley said her PTSD was a direct result of his harassment, along with a cybermob of more than 400 people, including men's rights activists.

"I was being Storified every single tweet by ElevatorGate and still am to this day. This has been going on for nearly two years. I know I'm constantly being monitored," she told the Daily Dot. "[ElevatorGate] spends all day and all night doing this. I'm quite certain he doesn't have a job. He's definitely obsessive."

At a broader level, Watson says she receives insults and threats every day. "Despite the fact that I can deal with it better than most, it's very difficult," she said, noting she's had prescription medication for anxiety and depression.

Same old bullshit.

The only thing worse than "being constantly monitored" for them would be for them to realize how many people don't pay a lick of attention to them.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.)



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My old GF's favorite quip was, "Yeah, so I'm a lawyer. But you're sleeping with one, so what does that make you?"

[Kevin Solway]

Are you referring to the Holt article?

Sorry, I mistook "Online Harassment" for somebody's name.

I think I was being too obscure for my own good. :-)

[ERV]

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.)



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Good lord.

Dear Popehat:
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/ori ... stewie.png

Apparently PZ has his top men on this.

[Ape+lust]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXloqvGehqE

Well, he's fucked. Mr Diety is about to learn Intent is Not Magic. This won't make a whit of difference -- he didn't grovel.

Just give them the finger, Mr Diety. This has fuck all to do with victim-blaming or even the victim, for that matter. They're professional character assassins who want you on their leash.

[Rystefn]

Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable...

http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/17/my-gay-date)

All without throwing a tantrum...

Sounds like a 'just so' story. Of course, that's because I've come to the point in my life that I don't believe a fucking thing he says seeing as how easy and fast the lies, bullshit and self-justifications drop from his poison pen.

It's also another edition of PZ trying to pretend to be a hipster and failing even at that. "I was a geek before it was cool" he says, and the stupid hipsters pretending to geeks buy it. Yeah, I believe he played a wargame once in college, but no one even tangentially connected to the world of nerds thinks playing with physical dice and tables and toy soldiers in your youth shows how old you are. It makes me wonder if there's anything he's honest about in his public persona...