Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

[Gumby]

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[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

H>KORBAN: what's the source for your avatar? Thanks.

[Gumby]

Thanks to Phil, I just noticed this comment of Mykeru's:

Hey, it's not easy waking ass-end up on a chair, having to reach into your own mouth and scoop out a plug of nearly aspirated vomit, somehow get to your feel, pull worn-for-three days granny panties out of the crack of your spotty, flaccid ass and duck-walk to the fridge for a beer or, ideally, some wine because you passed out before you could polish it off and get that into your maw before the little bouncy DT critters get to you, shotgun it and it's brother for breakfast and then plop yourself down in front of the computer, just like yesterday, to rule an empire of fucking morons.

You're talking about Lsuoma, right?

No, Lsuoma's morning often consists of waking up, stepping on a piece of tape carelessly left on the floor, then spending most of the day shaking that foot while walking in circles.

Oh, my mistake. I think what made me think it was Lsuoma was the whole "rule an empire of fucking morons" thing.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

This really is pathetic. A bunch of people who know and like each other are planning to meet in a hotel bar. Fucking lmao at that.

Or tweeting on their flight and that they arrived. I mean who uses social media for that? We know that Twitter and other media channels are reserved for only the most important things, like sharing the picture of one's meals. I also actually think that PZ Myers looks like a likeable person. And he probably is. That doesn't make the hypocrisy and the million levels on which the horde attitudes are wrong going away, but fair's fair.

It's more that it looks like the most interesting thing PZ can think of doing in a foreign country is to find an irish pub and gather around him all the folks he saw at the last convention 3 weeks ago. Like there aren't irish pubs everywhere. It's like a North American going to France and eating at the McDonalds.

Hey now! Although I'm quite the gournet (and incidental chief), I love a greasy quarter pounder* from time to time!

*Yeah, that famous Royal Cheese. Mc Donalds was closed when I left the theatre, sucks to be me/first world problems.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Justin Griffiths has a pop at Greggy and Peez. Oddly, he doesn't seem to like them much. Parting shot, "PZ, stop washing your hands of people. Just wash your hands."

http://www.skepticink.com/debunkingchri ... pous-ass/#

[Lsuoma]

H>KORBAN: what's the source for your avatar? Thanks.

It's 'Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer' by Caspar David Friedrich.

[Lsuoma]

Thanks to Phil, I just noticed this comment of Mykeru's:

You're talking about Lsuoma, right?

No, Lsuoma's morning often consists of waking up, stepping on a piece of tape carelessly left on the floor, then spending most of the day shaking that foot while walking in circles.

Oh, my mistake. I think what made me think it was Lsuoma was the whole "rule an empire of fucking morons" thing.

I feel I do do rather well in that department - someone was asking me about the Pit recently, and I told them to imagine a kindergarten with a significant proportion of deranged, drug-addled fantasists.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I think what I like most with the Pit is the classiness. Being back from the pub after a great theatric night, I would be dismayed if I didn't get my nice slice of Pit before calling it a night.

Fortunately, we have those holding us to their exacting standard.

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I hope I wasn't too snarky. I'm quite drnuk rihgt nwo. It was just a bit of fun. Lulz and all that...

[Steersman]

JAB said:
"It's more that it looks like the most interesting thing PZ can think of doing in a foreign country is to find an irish pub and gather around him all the folks he saw at the last convention 3 weeks ago. Like there aren't irish pubs everywhere. It's like a North American going to France and eating at the McDonalds."

Sounds as if they're at the hotel bar, which seems even more boring. This time of year in Northern Europe, I'd want to be outdoors, especially after being on a plane for hours. I'm no Rick Stevesesque world traveler, mind you, but I think it's possible to be a) outdoors, b) at a pub, and c) socializing with friends, all at the same time, in Ireland. It's not as if they're stuck in some soulless 'burb near Dulles Airport, or in a blazing 102F fucking hellhole (like I am at the moment, and, apparently, for the next 4 months).

FTB Rule #1: You never leave the bubble.

Also, I think the user name "Cunt" is sort of a misnomer. He should change it to "Cloaca", because mostly what comes out of him is watery shit.

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Kind of like the woman who was called by her first name, Carmen, by her mother, but called by her last name, Cohen, by her father: she never really knew whether she was Carmen or Cohen .... :rimshot:

[Wonderist]

Lsuoma said:

As far as the slowness goes, I have a ticket open with the hosting company.

TedDahlberg said:

Yup, was painfully slow for me at work earlier today.

Tony Parsehole said:

Same problem here. It's still taking ages to get into the forum or refresh a page.

Lsuoma said:

Looks like some intermittent weird internal routing issue at dreamhost. traceroute is showing at least 120 internal hops once I reach their border host.

Angry_Drunk said:

And yet, on my shitty-ass work PC on our penny-ante network while I am simultaneously transferring gigabytes of data, the 'Pit flies as the veritable wind. So your anecdotal "evidence" can suck a gigantic satchel of cock.

You were saying?

Actually, you still are wrong. Based on what lsuoma said, you know, actual details and useful info, it's not the server. It's the route into the server, and oh, based on the actual detail I posted, it's not universal. 16 hops between me and, as near as I can tell, LA, is not bad. If the SERVER were actually slow, then everyone would have a similar result, because that apache instance is the one commonality between all visitors to the pit.

So the fact that YOUR route to the server is suboptimal is not the same as the server being slow. My traceroutes are fine. If I had to guess, looks like someone induced a routing loop.

I got 14 hops, and I'm not even in the US, *but*, I've also noticed slowness a lot recently. Unfortunately it's a new laptop and I don't have my usual plugins and whatnot, so I can't give any better info than that at the moment. (Actually, until I read these comments, I thought there might have been something wrong with my new laptop.) Somebody mentioned imgur? It could be that the slymepit.com site itself is fine, but all the embedded images and whatnot linking to other domains might be slowing down page rendering. I've noticed this on other sites with lots of embedded images and ads sometimes.

[Steersman]

[Post #35641]

I feel worse for Mykeru than Walter Ego. At least Walter is able to openly admit how much his life sucks right now.

Not true, transparently edgy troll-dude. Me and my little friend here discuss exactly that on a regular basis.

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Do you have anything specific in mind to bring up at the next meeting?

Richard Cory? The rather remarkable frequency with which we are all misunderstood (maybe even by ourselves)? Apropos of which, and to provide my obligatory daily quote from Pinker’s The Blank Slate, here he is quoting Robert Trivers’ forward in Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene:

Darwinian social theory gives us a glimpse of an underlying symmetry and logic in social relationships which, when more fully comprehended by ourselves, should revitalize oru political understanding and provide the intellectual support for a science and medicine of psychology. In the process it should give us a deeper understanding of the many roots of our suffering.

But join the crowd .... you might wish to take a look at a recent post by Miri over at Brute Reason ....

[Gumby]

Justin Griffiths has a pop at Greggy and Peez. Oddly, he doesn't seem to like them much. Parting shot, "PZ, stop washing your hands of people. Just wash your hands."

http://www.skepticink.com/debunkingchri ... pous-ass/#

Given his description of TentacleRapeGate, I must surmise Justin Griffiths still reads the Pit.

Hi Justin! :dance:

[Gumby]

H>KORBAN: what's the source for your avatar? Thanks.

It's 'Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer' by Caspar David Friedrich.

You're so smurt. I bet you didn't even have to drag the avatar into the Google Images search box.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

H>KORBAN: what's the source for your avatar? Thanks.

It's 'Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer' by Caspar David Friedrich.

Thanks.

Sorry: thanks, you ball of carroty vomit falling from the mouth of a disinterested whore on the subway who has just taken a hit of methadone.

[Gumby]

I feel I do do rather well in that department - someone was asking me about the Pit recently, and I told them to imagine a kindergarten with a significant proportion of deranged, drug-addled fantasists.

A bit disappointing. I thought we had reached the first grade level by now.

[Aneris]

JT seems to be starting to see through the cracks a wee bit. Soon to be witch of the week.

A few days ago on the Thinking Atheist JT came across as a thoughtful and decent guy. But his comments about the Slympit and how lovely Zvan was did tell me he had fallen under the same trap of not grasping some use any excuse to shut down dissent, including crocodile tears. They use all the usual tropes of 'Shut up and Listen' and 'Ban, Ban Ban' . I do not want him to change his mind but I do find it amazing that so many intelligent people consistently fail to grasp that things are always more nuanced than they want them to be.

Post Modernist thinking is a perfect foil for narcissists to get their kicks. The genuine people, like most of humanity, who have genuine empathy often fail to spot that. Zvan is a prime example of someone you need to be careful of as she will bury you no matter how good her relationship was with you. She is nasty, vindictive and an attention seeker who puts up a smoke screen of diversion and lies to get what she wants. What she wants is adulation and approval. Her biggest weakness is her arrogance and obvious belief people will not catch her out as she's 'too smart'. That is the only way she is being caught out with the deluded as, I am afraid, JT is when it comes to her.

I now only read two texts by the JT guy and he is a complete, transparent, douche. He just plays along with the Atheism Plus liturgy; patting the backs of Atheism Plus clergy, flattery of their awesome character and demonisation of the anti-christ Justin Vacula and denouncing of hell the Slymepit. Meanwhile he mentions bad arguments, untruths as if it was a bad thing. It clearly isn't, given his standards. He is also unfair and a liar (plus a sleazy douche). He made his issue with Zvan and Laden about the Slymepit and painted everyone here with a broad brush. Those people are a disgrace for anything that has to do with atheism, skepticism or (critical) thinking.

[AndrewV69]

Oh, my mistake. I think what made me think it was Lsuoma was the whole "rule an empire of fucking morons" thing.

From time to time it certainly looks like it.

[Hunt]

No one doubts the existence of idiots. The extent of their influence is very much in doubt.

I have not seen much in the way of argument for the proposition that the influence/power/control of the RadFems/Feminists is over rated but here is a good one I think:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013 ... mment-3249

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Gingko (97)

Tis all rests on the assumption that feminists are somehow outside rebels against the society that enofrces all this when in fact feminists were in very privileged positions in that society and for the most part still are.

Here’s a crucial point, and one I disagree with strongly. The idea that feminists exercise considerable control over politics / society etc.

They don’t. They have certain platforms in media and political lobbies, they have more influence than men’s activists certainly, but that doesn’t make them all-powerful, or even especially influential.

I’ll tell you who is influential in politics: Goldman Sachs; RBS; Rupert Murdoch; Ernst & Young; Exxon; Toyota; Warren Buffet; Lord Rothermere; Paul Dacre; elected politicians (80% male) government cabinet ministers (90% male) religious leaders; Halliburton; British Aerospace; British-American Tobacco; Glaxo Smith-Klein; Monsanto; etc etc etc etc etc.

All these people wield a thousand times more power and influence than the combined efforts of every feminist on the planet. Occasionally these people will throw feminists a few scraps from the table, especially if its on something they can make money out of (eg women in the workplace) but the truth is that feminists influence, in the big picture, is utterly marginal.

Of course I am always interested in a better argument than the one above, so if you have one I would like to see it.

At least here in Amurka, feminism, and to a certain extent radfems, rule academia, and therefore control a large chunk of public funding in public universities. They also, by associated politics, control a lot of funds in private universities. As we've seen, they have much influence in nonprofit organizations (conferences, of course) and workplace environments by virtue of leverage given by harassment policies, threatening funding (the Lindsay affair), etc. I'm not going the radical MRA route and claiming all of this, or even most, is bad, just cataloging possible influence. I think there are a lot of feminists who would love, LOVE, to extend their influence into civil and criminal law. For instance, I don't doubt that some would just squee over getting cat calling ("street harassment") outlawed.
But it's true, in general, their political and business influence is limited. Just look at Donglegate for example. It died almost out of the "gate." There was no place it could really go, and feminists realized it pretty early. Richards was fired, as was the corporate prerogative, and there wasn't really anything to be done about it. They couldn't control funding of a private business; there was no avenue for effective boycott, etc.
Feminism, and activism in general, goes where it can influence stuff either through funding or public perception. The problem for feminism is that the public already doesn't like it (at least by name). Only around a quarter of all women self identify as feminist. More people consider "feminist" an insult than a compliment, a fact that has held firm for decades.

[Dave]

I got 14 hops, and I'm not even in the US, *but*, I've also noticed slowness a lot recently. Unfortunately it's a new laptop and I don't have my usual plugins and whatnot, so I can't give any better info than that at the moment. (Actually, until I read these comments, I thought there might have been something wrong with my new laptop.) Somebody mentioned imgur? It could be that the slymepit.com site itself is fine, but all the embedded images and whatnot linking to other domains might be slowing down page rendering. I've noticed this on other sites with lots of embedded images and ads sometimes.

I got a 503 earlier in the day. I dare anyone to explain how that was a problem on my end. :)

[AndrewV69]

Kind of like the woman who was called by her first name, Carmen, by her mother, but called by her last name, Cohen, by her father: she never really knew whether she was Carmen or Cohen .... :rimshot:

Have mercy Steers! What have we done to you to deserve that? :o

[welch]

THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE I.T. GUYS.



/that is all

Why else do you think people BECOME I.T. Guys?

I thought it was to punish the jocks for picking them after the fat kid...

What is this "team sports" you speak of? Is this one of those "out-side" things under the burning daystar?

[welch]

Why else do you think people BECOME I.T. Guys?

I thought it was to punish the jocks for picking them after the fat kid...

I think this pretty much sums up the day-to-day usefulness of most network guys.

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Also, I really shouldn't be so hard on Cunt. After all, I remember when I had my first Shandy.

wait, which one is the network guy and which one is the user?

[welch]

Write a 24-point epistle. Barring actual evidence to the contrary, and based on the evidence I've both collected and seen, I'm pretty fucking comfortable in saying you were wrong about it being a server issue, instead of a routing issue.

I once knew where the on/off button was. Since I've switched to external screen/keyboard/mouse, my laptop seems to hate me. It will be back to desktop machine soon enough (I hope lappy doesn't read this).

if you type too loud, they know what you say by analyzing the sounds emitted by each key, as they are slightly different.

[welch]

Ya'll hate IT Guys? Today I fucking hate "tech" support people. I put tech in quotes because *CLEARLY* the people I've dealt with over the past 2 days haven't a fucking clue what they're doing. I'm pretty convinced that the hour I spent in a live chat yesterday getting 1 small question answered took as long as it did because the "tech" person went to the local fucking bookstore and got "Server Admin For Dummies". My question? "Why is our VPS down?" (we couldn't access the control panel at the time to find out that the server was full)

60 fucking minutes. And that was just to get the answer not the solution. It was another fucking 60 minutes during which time their nifty live chat kept dropping me.

I want so badly to poke "tech" people like that right in the eye with a fork.

Actual convo with VPS support folks once.

"Hey, our VPS is a bit off"
"Are you sure it's not your web server?"
"Yes <long string of examples showing this exists outside the VPS environment>"
"Oh...well, I'll have to elevate this to tier two"
"okay"
"wait several hours, this is causing actual problems, it's production, not test."
"Hey, what's the deal with the VPS"
"Are you sure it's not your web server"
<lather, rinse, repeat>
"Oh...well, I'll have to elevate this to tier three"
"Okay"
wait several hours
"Guys?"
"Oh, you're right, it is a VPS issue, fixing it now."
<headdesk>

[Wonderist]

JT seems to be starting to see through the cracks a wee bit. Soon to be witch of the week.

A few days ago on the Thinking Atheist JT came across as a thoughtful and decent guy. But his comments about the Slympit and how lovely Zvan was did tell me he had fallen under the same trap of not grasping some use any excuse to shut down dissent, including crocodile tears.

Sure, sure, but that wasn't what I meant. I meant that he's starting to see, first hand, that Zvan's antics cannot be countered by even bending over backwards to appease her. Her demands are simply unreasonable. He decided to take a stand on how far he'd be willing to go to denounce Zvan's critics, and he's done out of his way to appease Zvan *up to* that limit, but when she's still not happy, he has not backed down (so far as I know, I haven't read the whole thread yet) from his stance. But she keeps pestering, and so do her sycophants.

Again, as I've said before, deconversions take a long time. This, in my eyes, is JT's first 'testing the waters', and what he's seeing is not lining up with what he expected to see. The seeds of doubt have been planted, the cognitive dissonance has sprouted. The deconversion process has begun. He no longer sees Zvan as entirely reasonable. She's knocked herself down a few pegs with her dogmatism.

[welch]

Actually, you still are wrong. Based on what lsuoma said, you know, actual details and useful info, it's not the server. It's the route into the server, and oh, based on the actual detail I posted, it's not universal. 16 hops between me and, as near as I can tell, LA, is not bad. If the SERVER were actually slow, then everyone would have a similar result, because that apache instance is the one commonality between all visitors to the pit.

So the fact that YOUR route to the server is suboptimal is not the same as the server being slow. My traceroutes are fine. If I had to guess, looks like someone induced a routing loop.

I got 14 hops, and I'm not even in the US, *but*, I've also noticed slowness a lot recently. Unfortunately it's a new laptop and I don't have my usual plugins and whatnot, so I can't give any better info than that at the moment. (Actually, until I read these comments, I thought there might have been something wrong with my new laptop.) Somebody mentioned imgur? It could be that the slymepit.com site itself is fine, but all the embedded images and whatnot linking to other domains might be slowing down page rendering. I've noticed this on other sites with lots of embedded images and ads sometimes.

When I was running the various benchmarks, the imgur stuff did take a long time to load. Why, I've no idea, but it was significant.

[ReneeHendricks]

I have to turn off my Gmail notifications now during work time due to the new title here. A quick desktop snapshot of "Topic reply notification - 'Justin Fucks Up in Dublin'" could raise some eyebrows.

[Badger3k]

I have to turn off my Gmail notifications now during work time due to the new title here. A quick desktop snapshot of "Topic reply notification - 'Justin Fucks Up in Dublin'" could raise some eyebrows.

I'm trying to figure out how to turn off email notifications completely. I keep getting emails from the board when there are replies, even after I have disabled the notify me of replies by default type thing on my control panel. Anyone have any ideas how to stop them?

[Aneris]

Posted, again, vote up and down as you feel like. Would be nice if you do throw in your 2cents, let's challenge their narratives. :)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2013 ... -945984779

[Steersman]

Kind of like the woman who was called by her first name, Carmen, by her mother, but called by her last name, Cohen, by her father: she never really knew whether she was Carmen or Cohen .... :rimshot:

Have mercy Steers! What have we done to you to deserve that? :o

:lol: Sorry about that Chief - the devil made me do it .... :)

[ReneeHendricks]

I have to turn off my Gmail notifications now during work time due to the new title here. A quick desktop snapshot of "Topic reply notification - 'Justin Fucks Up in Dublin'" could raise some eyebrows.

I'm trying to figure out how to turn off email notifications completely. I keep getting emails from the board when there are replies, even after I have disabled the notify me of replies by default type thing on my control panel. Anyone have any ideas how to stop them?

I know on my setup, in the systray, Google Talk is the culprit. Right-click, select "Disable All Notifications", and all is golden.

[Lsuoma]

H>KORBAN: what's the source for your avatar? Thanks.

It's 'Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer' by Caspar David Friedrich.

You're so smurt. I bet you didn't even have to drag the avatar into the Google Images search box.

No, I didn't. I studied German Romantic art when doing my A Levels in the 1970s.

[ERV]

ANERIS!

That Dawkins review you posted is, apparently, real... ish? I thought it was just someone who used the handle (it didnt say 'amazon verified name' or anything)

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... rnalSearch

[Darth Cynic]

I am the barman and I pissed in that drink.

Given the swill his Holiness is quaffing, pissing in it would only improve it immeasurably; you would be doing him a favour.

[Guest]

I can't sleep. If anyone wants to call me on Skype and read my beads, feel free. My ID is buddhaglass.

[Zenspace]

Dear stefhoney, a message from reality as a wake up call from your control freaking neurosis

6LQlLTaaOAs

That JT thread is amazing. Shorter Stefunny: "Clean my toe cheese. No - not with your finger, with your tongue, scumbag."

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2013 ... are-jerks/

It really is an amazing display. Svan is really putting the effort in to try and fuck JT into the ground, but the harder she pushes her idiotic point, the more transparent her game becomes and the general commentariat over there is picking up on it, apparently including JT. One poster, KacyRay really nailed her game, but has only made three comments and hasn't gotten the notice he should - only 9 up votes on his home run post. Even I posted a comment in support of that one. :popcorn:

[surreptitious57]

The problem for feminism is that the public already does not like it at least by name . Only
around a quarter of all women self identify as feminist . More people consider feminist an
insult than a compliment a fact that has held firm for decades

The problem is one of image then rather than of ideology because after all what is feminism in its most
basic format but the demand for gender equality : The belief that men and women should be treated as
equals in every regard : And no one in a liberal democracy should have any problem with that now : And
anyone who does is doing so from ignorance or malice : And so this should not even be a subject up for
debate : It should be taken as a given : But what should be and what actually is are not always mutually compatible : In spite of that significant progress has been made though there is much more to be done

[Parody Accountant]

http://i.imgur.com/JDwPhxI.png

[welch]

Latest one at JT's:

Clearly people should comment in a way that Stephanie both supports and defends. They should find a veteran that disagrees with them, and threaten to kick their ass while trying to trigger PTSD incidents.

Stephanie CLEARLY approves of that behavior, so does Jason T. They must, given that both have actively defended it on multiple occasions.

So, saying things Stephanie Zvan doesn't like? Mortal sin, burn the heretic. Threatening physical violence and playing games with potential PTSD issues as long as the target is on Stephanie's shit list? TOTES okey-dokey.

Oh, and emailing someone's employer to silence them is just fine as well. As long as the target is on Stephanie's shit list.

So, things that Stephanie Z. and Jason T. approve of, as long as the target is a Suppressive Person, or "SP":

1) Clear, unambiguous threats of violence.
2) Clear, unambiguous attempts to trigger PTSD
3) Trying to get someone's employer to make them take down blog entries they disapprove of.

Fair Game Indeed.

[Skep tickle]

EWTS2013 starts in 4.5 hrs.

Will there be a replacement for Rebecca Watson on the "Separation of Church and State" panel?

And who is "To Be Confirmed" on the Human Rights" panel?

This is the schedule for the conference. There may be some minor adjustments.

Saturday 29th of June

9.30am-10.15am - Introduction – Annie Laurie Gaylor

10.15am-11.30am Session 1 – Reproductive rights and Irish abortion law
Ophelia Benson, Clare Daly, Anthea McTiernan, Ailbhe Smyth, Doctors for Choice

11.45am-1 pm - Session 2 – Secular Values in Society
Leonie Hilliard, Nina Sankari, Farhana Shakir, PZ Myers

2.15pm-3.30pm - Session 3 – Separation of Church and State
Ann Brusseel, Annie Laurie Gaylor, Rebecca Watson, Michael Nugent

4.45pm-6.00pm - Session 4 – Human Rights
Jane Donnelly, Maryam Namazie, To Be Confirmed, Dan Barker

6.15pm-7.00pm - Keynote Speaker – Taslima Nasrin

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

EWTS2013 starts in 4.5 hrs.

Will there be a replacement for Rebecca Watson on the "Separation of Church and State" panel?

And who is "To Be Confirmed" on the Human Rights" panel?

This is the schedule for the conference. There may be some minor adjustments.

Saturday 29th of June

9.30am-10.15am - Introduction – Annie Laurie Gaylor

10.15am-11.30am Session 1 – Reproductive rights and Irish abortion law
Ophelia Benson, Clare Daly, Anthea McTiernan, Ailbhe Smyth, Doctors for Choice

11.45am-1 pm - Session 2 – Secular Values in Society
Leonie Hilliard, Nina Sankari, Farhana Shakir, PZ Myers

2.15pm-3.30pm - Session 3 – Separation of Church and State
Ann Brusseel, Annie Laurie Gaylor, Rebecca Watson, Michael Nugent

4.45pm-6.00pm - Session 4 – Human Rights
Jane Donnelly, Maryam Namazie, To Be Confirmed, Dan Barker

6.15pm-7.00pm - Keynote Speaker – Taslima Nasrin

Absolutely amazing that people continue to pay good money to attend these repetitive displays of mutual congratulation. Church would be cheaper.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

http://i.imgur.com/RJeQmIV.png

[Skep tickle]

Latest one at JT's:

Clearly people should comment in a way that Stephanie both supports and defends. They should find a veteran that disagrees with them, and threaten to kick their ass while trying to trigger PTSD incidents.

Stephanie CLEARLY approves of that behavior, so does Jason T. They must, given that both have actively defended it on multiple occasions.

So, saying things Stephanie Zvan doesn't like? Mortal sin, burn the heretic. Threatening physical violence and playing games with potential PTSD issues as long as the target is on Stephanie's shit list? TOTES okey-dokey.

Oh, and emailing someone's employer to silence them is just fine as well. As long as the target is on Stephanie's shit list.

So, things that Stephanie Z. and Jason T. approve of, as long as the target is a Suppressive Person, or "SP":

1) Clear, unambiguous threats of violence.
2) Clear, unambiguous attempts to trigger PTSD
3) Trying to get someone's employer to make them take down blog entries they disapprove of.

Fair Game Indeed.

Good comment. Steersman & Aneris also posted good stuff there w/in past few hours, and Pitchguest & Metalogic yesterday.

Hard thread to navigate, though; that's irritating.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

http://i.imgur.com/RJeQmIV.png

Meyers: I'm sure all those shitty little people you had to talk to after you sent this Tweet are fucking thankful that you spent just a couple of seconds with them.

God bless you, Priest Meyers.

[VAXherd]

. . . what is feminism in its most basic format but the demand for gender equality . . .

Well, that's the way it's presented. Indeed, because no one disagrees anymore.

In spite of that significant progress has been made though there is much more to be done

Ah, but that usually means that women are to be handed a lot more free goodies. When what it should mean is that women are to be required to uphold the same responsibilities as men.

Most people seem to relate to authorities the way children relate to their parents. Somebody out there has so much, that they can give "me" ten times what I have and still have many times more than that. Whether it's "the government", "the rich", or simply "men".

Personally, I very much liked realizing that I was now a grownup. That Mr. VAXherd wasn't just my father.

[Sulaco]

EWTS2013 starts in 4.5 hrs.

Will there be a replacement for Rebecca Watson on the "Separation of Church and State" panel?

Yep. A fern from the rotunda on Capitol Hill was flown in.

[Sulaco]

http://i.imgur.com/RJeQmIV.png

Nugent's accountants feel the same.

[Lsuoma]

This is it. With Twatson's likely deliberate decision not to fly to DUB, and PeeZus' expressed wish to be with her, the apparently impenetrable and insuperable Stalinist FfTB/Skepsnatch/A+Theism facades are revealed for the damp, crumbling thin drywall curtains they really are.

WiSCFI2 is late 1917, Lindsay's capitulation is the March 1918 offensive, and we are now seeing the collapse of the German Army (this is all analogy, BTW, and VERY pre-Nazi).

This particular batch of Feminists has blown their wad. There'll be more along soon, but the current bunch of gadflys are done.

And not a moment too soon.

I, for one, will gloat as Twatson and the rest (Feefles, the Huge Zvanatee, PeeZus, Grag, reGreta, etc. ad nauseam) gradually, and ragefully come to understand this.

Karma is a bitch, bitches!

[sacha]

This is it. With Twatson's likely deliberate decision not to fly to DUB, and PeeZus' expressed wish to be with her, the apparently impenetrable and insuperable Stalinist FfTB/Skepsnatch/A+Theism facades are revealed for the damp, crumbling thin drywall curtains they really are.

WiSCFI2 is late 1917, Lindsay's capitulation is the March 1918 offensive, and we are now seeing the collapse of the German Army (this is all analogy, BTW, and VERY pre-Nazi).

This particular batch of Feminists has blown their wad. There'll be more along soon, but the current bunch of gadflys are done.

And not a moment too soon.

I, for one, will gloat as Twatson and the rest (Feefles, the Huge Zvanatee, PeeZus, Grag, reGreta, etc. ad nauseam) gradually, and ragefully come to understand this.

Karma is a bitch, bitches!

what did I miss?

[Steersman]

This is it. With Twatson's likely deliberate decision not to fly to DUB, and PeeZus' expressed wish to be with her, the apparently impenetrable and insuperable Stalinist FfTB/Skepsnatch/A+Theism facades are revealed for the damp, crumbling thin drywall curtains they really are.

WiSCFI2 is late 1917, Lindsay's capitulation is the March 1918 offensive, and we are now seeing the collapse of the German Army (this is all analogy, BTW, and VERY pre-Nazi).

This particular batch of Feminists has blown their wad. There'll be more along soon, but the current bunch of gadflys are done.

And not a moment too soon.

I, for one, will gloat as Twatson and the rest (Feefles, the Huge Zvanatee, PeeZus, Grag, reGreta, etc. ad nauseam) gradually, and ragefully come to understand this.

Karma is a bitch, bitches!

Maybe not the beginning of the end, but, one hopes, the end of the beginning. So to speak.

But, in passing, I note, with some amusement and substantial agreement, your diplomatic reframing of this thread’s title … iron fist in the velvet glove, and all that ….

However one might also wonder at the potential outcome of Myer’s intimation that he would take Nugent to task for creating another “outpost” of the Pit (shades of Fort Zinderneuf) …

[Steersman]

Latest one at JT's:

Clearly people should comment in a way that Stephanie both supports and defends. They should find a veteran that disagrees with them, and threaten to kick their ass while trying to trigger PTSD incidents.

Stephanie CLEARLY approves of that behavior, so does Jason T. They must, given that both have actively defended it on multiple occasions.

So, saying things Stephanie Zvan doesn't like? Mortal sin, burn the heretic. Threatening physical violence and playing games with potential PTSD issues as long as the target is on Stephanie's shit list? TOTES okey-dokey.

Oh, and emailing someone's employer to silence them is just fine as well. As long as the target is on Stephanie's shit list.

So, things that Stephanie Z. and Jason T. approve of, as long as the target is a Suppressive Person, or "SP":

1) Clear, unambiguous threats of violence.
2) Clear, unambiguous attempts to trigger PTSD
3) Trying to get someone's employer to make them take down blog entries they disapprove of.

Fair Game Indeed.

Good comment. Steersman & Aneris also posted good stuff there w/in past few hours, and Pitchguest & Metalogic yesterday.

Hard thread to navigate, though; that's irritating.

Thanks.

But, as for the navigation, I’m not sure of course what browser you’re using, but I’ve found that Disqus really doesn’t work too well under Windows XP at least. I generally find that Crome or Firefox are the better bets. And I also find that selecting the “Newest” format produces some readable displays. But, to coin a phrase, YMMV …. ;-)

[ERV]

http://i.imgur.com/RJeQmIV.png

Creepy.

[Steersman]

This is it. With Twatson's likely deliberate decision not to fly to DUB, and PeeZus' expressed wish to be with her, the apparently impenetrable and insuperable Stalinist FfTB/Skepsnatch/A+Theism facades are revealed for the damp, crumbling thin drywall curtains they really are.

WiSCFI2 is late 1917, Lindsay's capitulation is the March 1918 offensive, and we are now seeing the collapse of the German Army (this is all analogy, BTW, and VERY pre-Nazi).

This particular batch of Feminists has blown their wad. There'll be more along soon, but the current bunch of gadflys are done.

And not a moment too soon.

I, for one, will gloat as Twatson and the rest (Feefles, the Huge Zvanatee, PeeZus, Grag, reGreta, etc. ad nauseam) gradually, and ragefully come to understand this.

Karma is a bitch, bitches!

what did I miss?

Most recently, that Zvan got all pissy – not without some justification – that “SocraticGadFly” posted a comment that echoed Mykeru’s “Zvan-Laden sex-tapes” on one of JT Eberhard’s threads, and is insisting that JT burn SGF at the stake. More or less. Details at 11.

[cunt]

EWTS2013 starts in 4.5 hrs.

Will there be a replacement for Rebecca Watson on the "Separation of Church and State" panel?

Why, because Justin should be invited up to replace her and its really a problem if he's not? :roll:

[cunt]

http://i.imgur.com/MJFTM9G.png

[Skep tickle]

Latest one at JT's:
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Good comment. Steersman & Aneris also posted good stuff there w/in past few hours, and Pitchguest & Metalogic yesterday.

Hard thread to navigate, though; that's irritating.

Thanks.

But, as for the navigation, I’m not sure of course what browser you’re using, but I’ve found that Disqus really doesn’t work too well under Windows XP at least. I generally find that Crome or Firefox are the better bets. And I also find that selecting the “Newest” format produces some readable displays. But, to coin a phrase, YMMV …. ;-)

Firefox. The "recent comments" at the right are useful to find the newer stuff. I don't see a way of selecting between formats (but I'm also not registered, am viewing as Guest, which may limit the options).

[Dick Strawkins]

Justin Griffith, on John Loftus' 'Laden is a pompous ass' thread:

That comment from Greg Laden about releasing emails associated with your departure is hilarious, John. Does Greg not remember his exit?

Greg spent days sending the whole back channel into a frenzy over my post. Days into the sustained vitriol, his FtB 'career'-ending move was disclosed. An hour or two after the rest of FtB caught wind of Greg's undeniably unethical behavior, Greg lost his shit. He then demanded to be removed from the backchannel while everybody else (except Zvan) realized they had backed the wrong horse. I sincerely regret any bit of groveling I ever did. I can't believe I let a guy who is a sock-puppet away from a South Park character trigger me like that.

Speaking of hypocrisy... PZ Myers!?!

PZ posted the day Laden was shit-canned over that incident... PZ publicly washed his hands of me? If PZ had his hands on me for any reason, I'd need a goddamn shower. Did you know that he recommended and linked to cartoons of women being *raped* by octopus-like tentacled animals? He's made several 'under the sea' adult references in his posts over the years.

All apologies for the kink-shaming there, but when your apparent fetish breaks multiple laws in just about every country you don't get to publicly wash your hands of people. Incredibly, PZ has recently chided the nation of Japan for their 'rape culture', pointing to the very rape comics that he previously recommended to his audience.

PZ, stop washing your hands of people. Just wash your hands.

[Skep tickle]

EWTS2013 starts in 4.5 hrs.

Will there be a replacement for Rebecca Watson on the "Separation of Church and State" panel?

Why, because Justin should be invited up to replace her and its really a problem if he's not? :roll:

Seems unlikely that'll happen, but he does have a more relevant background for the "Church/State Separation" part than Watson. (However, of coures, he has less of the "Women" part of the background.)

With Brusseels (MP from Brussels), Gaylor (FFRF), and Nugent (AI) it seems like they have a strong, if small, panel on Church-State Separation. Hard to see what Rebecca "Skepchick" Watson was going to add.

[Steersman]

<snip>
Good comment. Steersman & Aneris also posted good stuff there w/in past few hours, and Pitchguest & Metalogic yesterday.

Hard thread to navigate, though; that's irritating.

Thanks.

But, as for the navigation, I’m not sure of course what browser you’re using, but I’ve found that Disqus really doesn’t work too well under Windows XP at least. I generally find that Crome or Firefox are the better bets. And I also find that selecting the “Newest” format produces some readable displays. But, to coin a phrase, YMMV …. ;-)

Firefox. The "recent comments" at the right are useful to find the newer stuff. I don't see a way of selecting between formats (but I'm also not registered, am viewing as Guest, which may limit the options).

Here’s what my screen looks like under Chrome. There’s a drop-down box under the “Newest” – I haven’t tried the other options as that seems to work adequately.

JT_Disqus_Full.JPG

(39.02 KiB) Downloaded 216 times

BTW, you were asking on another thread about the size of your screen-captures. I find that using Paint works fairly well as it has a “Stretch/Skew” option (under the “Image” menu item) that can scale images to a reasonable size; the one above is at 80%.

But it seems that some options are available under some browsers but not others ….

Also, didn’t you say something about Zvan blocking or deleting a comment or query of yours about Setar’s “bomb” comment? You have a link or a comment about that? Thanks.

[cunt]

EWTS2013 starts in 4.5 hrs.

Will there be a replacement for Rebecca Watson on the "Separation of Church and State" panel?

Why, because Justin should be invited up to replace her and its really a problem if he's not? :roll:

Seems unlikely that'll happen, but he does have a more relevant background for the "Church/State Separation" part than Watson. (However, of coures, he has less of the "Women" part of the background.)

With Brusseels (MP from Brussels), Gaylor (FFRF), and Nugent (AI) it seems like they have a strong, if small, panel on Church-State Separation. Hard to see what Rebecca "Skepchick" Watson was going to add.

I'm not sure why any "relevant background" would be required or why people act as if this is a difficult area that really requires a lot of expertise.

Panellists: "Here's why Church-State separation is good and religious involvement in government is bad."
Audience of secularists who have already paid 100 euros to attend a secularist convention with "secularism" in the title: "Hrmm, that's interesting. This is great".