If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Ape+lust wrote:

Gumby wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?

My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.

Yeah, I went there.

Boom. Splat :D

Sometimes, like on days like this, I feel like a chump for not going total-GRAAR on them. Look in the pic archive and you won't find anything gratuitously mean from us. Yet -- You're fat < You're a rape apologist; You're ugly < You're a closeted Marc Lepine. Even if I went full nasty, there'd still be an imbalance. I'm reeeally getting tired of those high-roading sociopaths getting away with their shit.

Dave wrote:

Mykeru wrote:

ReneeHendricks wrote:What I spit everywhere:

absolut_vodka_bottle__34872.jpg

Funny you should mention that. I rarely drink, but all this crap has been making me think of a mellow, old-timey bourbon, the kind you can sip around a camp fire from a flask and imagine that the 20th century, much less the 21st, much less P.Z. Myers' mom, never happened.

But I have no idea what brand that would be.

I'm fond of Woodford Reserve.

JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

In other words, PZ has just been handed a three-foot high stack of subpoenas for every single blog post, comment and back-channel email for the last five years.

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Mykeru wrote:

Al Stefanelli wrote:
Besides, 'the movement' has gotten so fractured and splintered by the Feminazis and their sympathizers that I have absolutely no interest in being any part of it. I'm perfectly content as a retired grandfather, collecting my monthly disability check, enjoying the remaining time I have left on the planet spending time with my wife, kids and grandkids [and raping the fuck out of everything while doing wheelies]

Fixed that for you

Honestly Al, I go back to an analogy I've grown fond of: These people are the piss-stained crack-heads yelling at you from a convenience store parking lot. They've created a situation where the coin of the realm is giving the impression they are under attack, and the younger, more impressionable converts know they get clique-points by being victims, even if they have to elevate every pissy little interaction that most people get and ignore into Defcon One.

The leaders of this, Myers, Benson, Watson, Laden and the rest, they are more than ignorant, disingenuous con artists, they are complete mental cases in their own right. By now everyone knows the drill, if you claim "you should look both ways before crossing the street" Ophelia Benson would get her musty crusties into full hysterical mode and write "So what you are saying is it's my fault if some drunk driver running from the police after kidnapping and raping a 6 year old girl runs me the fuck over?"

Dear me, they do love the attention. Unlike you, they can't get attention by doing and they don't have a career, much less success to look back on. If you look at them, Myers, Benson, Laden, Watson and the rest it's hard to call them failures, because to fail you have to try to do something. They do nothing. They produce nothing. They are just the sort of people who sniff around after a someone else does something so they can point out how they did it wrong. That's what passes for creativity. But when they do try, they fail. Myers hasn't had an academic paper of note published since the early 90s and even then he was just a tag-along co-author. His much touted book took six years to rip off his own feeble blogs posts. Laden's "novel"? What a joke that is. Watson? Her claim to fame is getting lucky because Steve Novella liked the timbre of her voice but aside from that she hasn't done anything, not one thing, on skeptical topics. She reads other people's words and when she speaks her own, it's not on skepticism, it's just rehashed academic feminism with a special stupid twist. And Benson? Simply a failure, simply nuts, just raging at the world for being born and cheated by being her.

Fuck 'em. At the point they start chipping away at your peice of mind, they are not worth the bother. At this point anyone whose opinion you care about knows who you are and what a lying, histrionic bunch of life-sucking parasites they are.

Ape+lust wrote:

Gumby wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?

My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.

Yeah, I went there.

Boom. Splat :D

Sometimes, like on days like this, I feel like a chump for not going total-GRAAR on them. Look in the pic archive and you won't find anything gratuitously mean from us. Yet -- You're fat < You're a rape apologist; You're ugly < You're a closeted Marc Lepine. Even if I went full nasty, there'd still be an imbalance. I'm reeeally getting tired of those high-roading sociopaths getting away with their shit.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?

I vote for 'Libelgate'

Trophy wrote:

JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?

How about "boozegate" or "Winegate"? (the latter has the potential to be "whinegate" as well).

TheMudbrooker wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

In other words, PZ has just been handed a three-foot high stack of subpoenas for every single blog post, comment and back-channel email for the last five years.

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Rystefn wrote:Willful ignorance, I should say. Like creationists and libertarians.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

zenbabe wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Poor little PeeZee.
He packed 7 links within that small statement, btw, for those who might not realize (though I guess it's kind of a thing with him).

Dick Strawkins wrote:I can remember him being a toxic fuckwit years ago. I used to read Pharyngula on and off since 2006, and Nerd, while I don't remember him from the beginning, was certainly there about four years ago, several years before the schism, and he was just as annoying in those days. There was definitely a rather nasty cliquey vibe there from about four or five years back, that gradually culled the site of any independent voices. I stopped commenting long before Elevatorgate due to the atmosphere and I suspect a lot of others did too.
Ironically many of us migrated to Butterflies and Wheels where there was a better class of commenter - something that ended abruptly when Elevatorgate happened and Ophelia, after wavering for a couple of weeks, threw herself whole heartedly-into the horde and the commenters from pharyngula took over her place too.

JackRayner wrote:
I'm leaning towards "LibelGate". Maybe we should set up a poll.

JackRayner wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?

I vote for 'Libelgate'

Trophy wrote:

JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?

How about "boozegate" or "Winegate"? (the latter has the potential to be "whinegate" as well).

I'm leaning towards "LibelGate". Maybe we should set up a poll.

Tribble wrote:

Jan Steen wrote:

The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.

Did you use to work at MacDonalds?

It's the 'enjoy,' isn't it? Drives me crazy too...

Ericb wrote:

JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?

"Martyrgate"?

Trophy wrote:

PZ Myers wrote: Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

Jesus fucking Christ. Stop with the whining already. Self-pitying is really fucking low PZ. Grow up. Think about all of your great white *and* male privileges and that by your admission you're better off than most people. Surely that should be enough to keep you from sulking to the corner and thinking "Why no one is coming to play with me *sad face*?" right?

Gumby wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:

Gumby wrote: My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.

Yeah, I went there.

Boom. Splat :D

Sometimes, like on days like this, I feel like a chump for not going total-GRAAR on them. Look in the pic archive and you won't find anything gratuitously mean from us. Yet -- You're fat < You're a rape apologist; You're ugly < You're a closeted Marc Lepine. Even if I went full nasty, there'd still be an imbalance. I'm reeeally getting tired of those high-roading sociopaths getting away with their shit.

That's why I recently said "the nastier they get the less I care" with regards to the weight or looks jokes. I still try not to go overboard with it but fer fux sake, these loons are trying to destroy peoples' lives with completely unsubstantiated allegations of rape. In light of that, I'm not going to feel bad making the occasional fat joke.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Sorry, I forgot something important.


:popcorn:

There.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

:popcorn:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good,
etcetera

Verklagekasper wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good,
etcetera

This needs to be sung to the tune of "Don't cry for me Argentina". :violin:

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Comradde PhysioProffe wrote:Nostril Situation

I hate when you get like an itchy dealio inside your nostril, so you keep scratching it, and then it gets more irritated, so you scratch it more, and then it gets abraded and scabs up a little, and then the scab drives you even crazier, so you scratch it even more, which scrapes off the scab and makes it even more abraded and then scabbier and AUGGHH.

Web Designers Who Should Be Hit By Giant Asteroids

The motherfuckers who make me sit through a goddamn motherfucken Flash animation before I can navigate the goddamn motherfucken piece of shitte Web site.

EDIT: Title updated to remove reference to dying in a fire.

Tribble wrote:

Jan Steen wrote:

The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.

Did you use to work at MacDonalds?

It's the 'enjoy,' isn't it? Drives me crazy too...

mikelf wrote:If we are going to name this whole........thing, I would suggest either "Rape-aggedon" or, for those knowledgable of American history, "Shermer's March to the Peez."

5
Delft

15 August 2013 at 8:13 am (UTC -5)

I sincerely hope good things will come of having these things out in the open. At the very least, every time a famous skeptic pours a woman another drink, heads will turn. And one person refusing to walk past, may make others think about whether they really want to accept the standard.

Thanks for doing the right thing. Maybe one day we will live in a world where women are seen as people, and not prey.

Hemisphere wrote:So, instead of finding out whether PZ Myers posted a retraction I ended up getting mightily drunk to celebrate something. Any word on that front? Or has PZ stuck to his guns and entirely ignored the lawyer's letter?

Ape+lust wrote:Today I love Comradde PhysioProffe. I mean, he's the original radder-than-radfem who made Laden/Zvan spit blood and made Thibeault cry. Yet, in the midst of the social justice shitstorm of the century, with FtB crumbling down around his ears, he just keeps on chugging on with his hooty-poot banalities.

Comradde PhysioProffe wrote:Nostril Situation

I hate when you get like an itchy dealio inside your nostril, so you keep scratching it, and then it gets more irritated, so you scratch it more, and then it gets abraded and scabs up a little, and then the scab drives you even crazier, so you scratch it even more, which scrapes off the scab and makes it even more abraded and then scabbier and AUGGHH.

Web Designers Who Should Be Hit By Giant Asteroids

The motherfuckers who make me sit through a goddamn motherfucken Flash animation before I can navigate the goddamn motherfucken piece of shitte Web site.

EDIT: Title updated to remove reference to dying in a fire.

Verklagekasper wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good,
etcetera

This needs to be sung to the tune of "Don't cry for me Argentina". :violin:

Skeeve wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:Today I love Comradde PhysioProffe. I mean, he's the original radder-than-radfem who made Laden/Zvan spit blood and made Thibeault cry. Yet, in the midst of the social justice shitstorm of the century, with FtB crumbling down around his ears, he just keeps on chugging on with his hooty-poot banalities.

Comradde PhysioProffe wrote:Nostril Situation

I hate when you get like an itchy dealio inside your nostril, so you keep scratching it, and then it gets more irritated, so you scratch it more, and then it gets abraded and scabs up a little, and then the scab drives you even crazier, so you scratch it even more, which scrapes off the scab and makes it even more abraded and then scabbier and AUGGHH.

Web Designers Who Should Be Hit By Giant Asteroids

The motherfuckers who make me sit through a goddamn motherfucken Flash animation before I can navigate the goddamn motherfucken piece of shitte Web site.

EDIT: Title updated to remove reference to dying in a fire.

He's the douchebag that talks like he just discovered curse words?

Skeeve wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:Today I love Comradde PhysioProffe. I mean, he's the original radder-than-radfem who made Laden/Zvan spit blood and made Thibeault cry. Yet, in the midst of the social justice shitstorm of the century, with FtB crumbling down around his ears, he just keeps on chugging on with his hooty-poot banalities.

Comradde PhysioProffe wrote:Nostril Situation

I hate when you get like an itchy dealio inside your nostril, so you keep scratching it, and then it gets more irritated, so you scratch it more, and then it gets abraded and scabs up a little, and then the scab drives you even crazier, so you scratch it even more, which scrapes off the scab and makes it even more abraded and then scabbier and AUGGHH.

Web Designers Who Should Be Hit By Giant Asteroids

The motherfuckers who make me sit through a goddamn motherfucken Flash animation before I can navigate the goddamn motherfucken piece of shitte Web site.

EDIT: Title updated to remove reference to dying in a fire.

He's the douchebag that talks like he just discovered curse words?

Jan Steen wrote:

The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.

Did you use to work at MacDonalds?

2013
This is not an update

PZ replies.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/

Atheism, Personal

by PZ Myers

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Phoebe_Caulfield wrote:

JackRayner wrote: I'm leaning towards "LibelGate". Maybe we should set up a poll.

"Libelgate" for the win.

Mykeru wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:I'm thinking that doing a book signing while waiting for a process server must really fuck with your head.

"Hi. Tell me my name and I'll sign it for you."

Oh crap, I never even thought of that! Of course that's how they'll serve him. It'll be perfect.

Please, lawyers, be reading The Pit.

Dick Strawkins wrote:From the comments to PZ's, 'not an update', post.

5
Delft

15 August 2013 at 8:13 am (UTC -5)

I sincerely hope good things will come of having these things out in the open. At the very least, every time a famous skeptic pours a woman another drink, heads will turn. And one person refusing to walk past, may make others think about whether they really want to accept the standard.

Thanks for doing the right thing. Maybe one day we will live in a world where women are seen as people, and not prey.

Because, of course, everyone knows that the correct way for skeptic women to get another drink is from a bodyshot test tube that is conveniently sticking out of the underpants of a male stripper.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

Bollocks!
There's only one theme that can possibly be appropriate...

[youtube]C6ZDsUGiGqM[/youtube]

I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish” on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).

But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.

Trophy wrote:
I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.

Dick Strawkins wrote: I can remember him being a toxic fuckwit years ago. I used to read Pharyngula on and off since 2006, and Nerd, while I don't remember him from the beginning, was certainly there about four years ago, several years before the schism, and he was just as annoying in those days. There was definitely a rather nasty cliquey vibe there from about four or five years back, that gradually culled the site of any independent voices. I stopped commenting long before Elevatorgate due to the atmosphere and I suspect a lot of others did too.
Ironically many of us migrated to Butterflies and Wheels where there was a better class of commenter - something that ended abruptly when Elevatorgate happened and Ophelia, after wavering for a couple of weeks, threw herself whole heartedly-into the horde and the commenters from pharyngula took over her place too.

Trophy wrote:
It demands dramatic reading! Here's a textual dramatic reading:

*PZ sighs* I can’t explain how things are going except to say *He briefly pauses* it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I ... I can’t. *He turns and looks out through a nearby window* I worry that ... that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable *He takes a breath after delivering that mouthful*. Let me tell you *PZ turns back to face you* that when I pressed “publish” *He makes a dramatic hand gesture, pressing an invisible button* on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement *he clenches his hand in a tight fist*, and that and that ... *PZ gets teary. Hiccups once, and then wipes the corner of his eye* ... and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future *PZ now whispers, trying to comfort himself* which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog ... yes, I'll always have the blog *turns back towards the windows and stares at a random point in the distance*

Tribble wrote:

Trophy wrote:
I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.

I have nothing against him. It's just the 'enjoy' is jarring in context with the body of his post and sounds like something you'd hear at McDonalds from some poor bastard who lacks opportunity and/or talent and is stuck in lowest form of Corporate Drone land with no hope of every getting out of the pit of doom his/her life has become, yet is forced to be 'jolly' while drowning in that sea of dream-crushing despair.

Lsuoma wrote:

Tribble wrote:

Trophy wrote:
I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.

I have nothing against him. It's just the 'enjoy' is jarring in context with the body of his post and sounds like something you'd hear at McDonalds from some poor bastard who lacks opportunity and/or talent and is stuck in lowest form of Corporate Drone land with no hope of every getting out of the pit of doom his/her life has become, yet is forced to be 'jolly' while drowning in that sea of dream-crushing despair.

Aww, he's just another weenie using the pit to link whore.

Tony Parsehole wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:

Tribble wrote:

Trophy wrote:
I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.

I have nothing against him. It's just the 'enjoy' is jarring in context with the body of his post and sounds like something you'd hear at McDonalds from some poor bastard who lacks opportunity and/or talent and is stuck in lowest form of Corporate Drone land with no hope of every getting out of the pit of doom his/her life has become, yet is forced to be 'jolly' while drowning in that sea of dream-crushing despair.

Aww, he's just another weenie using the pit to link whore.

"Gee whiz, you trolls are weak-ass-sauce up in this place. I don't give two tiny monkey farts on a spring day what you think of me dropping links like a Dresden carpet bomber. I was an internet pilgrim when you were a splat of jizz-juice in your old Daddy-O's cock's-eye. I'll keep it real in circle-ville and you squares can keep on meeting at right angles.

Enjoy"

Tony Parsehole wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:

Tribble wrote:

Trophy wrote:
I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.

I have nothing against him. It's just the 'enjoy' is jarring in context with the body of his post and sounds like something you'd hear at McDonalds from some poor bastard who lacks opportunity and/or talent and is stuck in lowest form of Corporate Drone land with no hope of every getting out of the pit of doom his/her life has become, yet is forced to be 'jolly' while drowning in that sea of dream-crushing despair.

Aww, he's just another weenie using the pit to link whore.

"Gee whiz, you trolls are weak-ass-sauce up in this place. I don't give two tiny monkey farts on a spring day what you think of me dropping links like a Dresden carpet bomber. I was an internet pilgrim when you were a splat of jizz-juice in your old Daddy-O's cock's-eye. I'll keep it real in circle-ville and you squares can keep on meeting at right angles.

Enjoy"

Tapir wrote:Raepgaet.

Ape+lust wrote:Schadenfranc

Gumby wrote:

justinvacula wrote:http://www.policymic.com/mobile/article ... with-women

Peezus Christ... "Why atheists have a serious problem with women"

And of course the "hyperskepticism" trope gets trotted out by Rippere. "Just how much evidence do you need?" Um, more than say, none?

One commenter nailed it, though, by saying

"Hyperskepticism in this instance is actually defined as: "Being skeptical of things we'd rather you not." "

Gumby wrote: MKG meets Rain Man.