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Wow! Peezus might get to share the stage with the great Eric von Daniken!! Awesome!Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.
http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Al Stefanelli wrote:Referring:
Nice bit of text
Biohazard wrote:Also there has been an interesting exchange between Carrie Poppy and Barbara Drescher (and others) in a thread under a comment (regarding his latest video) posted by Wendy Hughes on Mr. Deity's FB page (don't know of a way to link directly to it).
Whig wrote:Wow! Peezus might get to share the stage with the great Eric von Daniken!! Awesome!Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.
http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Fixed that for youAl Stefanelli wrote:
Besides, 'the movement' has gotten so fractured and splintered by the Feminazis and their sympathizers that I have absolutely no interest in being any part of it. I'm perfectly content as a retired grandfather, collecting my monthly disability check, enjoying the remaining time I have left on the planet spending time with my wife, kids and grandkids [and raping the fuck out of everything while doing wheelies]
Oh how the mighty have fallen...Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.
http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
I find it ironic that he's obviously been invited as the "token skeptic" given his recent "you must take this second hand anonymous rape claim as an incontrovertible fact" bullshit.Gumby wrote:Oh how the mighty have fallen...Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.
http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Really? Then I am going to the police and reporting PZ's posts as rape of the brain. He should get 20 years for that right?Skep tickle wrote:Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:
http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1
Bingo. I usually compare these nutjobs to the religious, but this works just as well or even better.Ape+lust wrote:I'd like to thank the FtB justice warriors for reprising the Bush years, because Zog knows I've missed them so.Skep tickle wrote:I know it's just an analogy, but forgive me for thinking it's kind of telling: It's good to broadcast this "information" (even if no more than rumors) because the highest priorities are that we protect children from purported child molesters and women from purported woman-molesters.
Glittering generalities: "Freedom was attacked and freedom will be defended" -- "The radical notion that women are people too."
Absurd framing: "Why do you hate America?" -- "Why are you a rape apologist?"
Dire consequences: "Doesn't matter that he didn't have WMD, what if he DID and we didn't act?" -- "We're not calling him a rapist, we're giving voice to a victim so MORE women don't get raped."
Fear: "Axis of Evil" -- "Rape Culture"
Shut 'em down: "You're with us or against us." -- "You're with us or against us."
Many commenters in the Grenade post used the word 'rape' or 'rapist'. In that thread our friend Nerd of Redhead referred to Shermer as a 'known rapist'. Peezus deleted many 'troll' posts in that thread, but did not object to the rape/rapist terminology. That's telling, in my book (and I trust in Shermer's lawyers' too). Anne Hanna is a Peezus apologist exhibiting William Lane Craig level dishonesty.Gumby wrote:Really? Then I am going to the police and reporting PZ's posts as rape of the brain. He should get 20 years for that right?Skep tickle wrote:Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:
http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1
Really, where do these loons get this shite?
I think Whitey Bulger had plenty of supporting "witnesses" too, but failing to take the stand in his own defense didn't work out quite as we'll as he planned either. EnjoyGumby wrote:Really? Then I am going to the police and reporting PZ's posts as rape of the brain. He should get 20 years for that right?Skep tickle wrote:Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:
http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1
Really, where do these loons get this shite?
I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.Gumby wrote:Bingo. I usually compare these nutjobs to the religious, but this works just as well or even better.Ape+lust wrote:I'd like to thank the FtB justice warriors for reprising the Bush years, because Zog knows I've missed them so.Skep tickle wrote:I know it's just an analogy, but forgive me for thinking it's kind of telling: It's good to broadcast this "information" (even if no more than rumors) because the highest priorities are that we protect children from purported child molesters and women from purported woman-molesters.
Glittering generalities: "Freedom was attacked and freedom will be defended" -- "The radical notion that women are people too."
Absurd framing: "Why do you hate America?" -- "Why are you a rape apologist?"
Dire consequences: "Doesn't matter that he didn't have WMD, what if he DID and we didn't act?" -- "We're not calling him a rapist, we're giving voice to a victim so MORE women don't get raped."
Fear: "Axis of Evil" -- "Rape Culture"
Shut 'em down: "You're with us or against us." -- "You're with us or against us."
Did you use to work at MacDonalds?The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.
Read the whole thing because it's amazing. The short version is this, from the book:Thompson is a North Carolina rape victim whose eyewitness identification of a suspect put the wrong man in prison for life. Twice.
Cotton is the innocent man who spent 11 years of his life in prison because of Thompson's mistake. And he might still be behind bars today if he hadn't been watching the O.J. Simpson trial on television in prison in 1995 and heard about a test for DNA.
Thompson, now the 38-year-old mother of triplets, was a 22-year-old college student in 1984 when someone broke into her apartment, put a knife to her throat and raped her.
Several days later, she went to the police station and picked Cotton's photo out of a lineup. She also picked him out of a physical lineup and identified him as her assailant at his 1985 trial.
"I was absolutely, positively, without-a-doubt certain he was the man who raped me when I got on that witness stand and testified against him," Thompson recalls now. "And nobody was going to tell me any different."
Two years later, though, Cotton won a new trial where there was testimony about another man, a fellow inmate who had reportedly told other prisoners he had committed the rape for which Cotton had been convicted.But the man denied it on the witness stand. And Thompson testified that she had never seen the other man before in her life.
http://i.imgflip.com/3056l.jpgJan Steen wrote:Anne Hanna is a Peezus apologist exhibiting William Lane Craig level dishonesty.
HoneyWagon wrote:I haven't had a chance to read all the recent posts.
But as Carrie Poppy has appeared in a number of Mr. Diety vids, I guess she will be stopping that now.
Various links in no particular order
[youtube]FiEIc-U13pE[/youtube]
http://skepchick.org/2012/11/women-in-s ... rie-poppy/
https://www.facebook.com/carriepoppy/posts/757676183971
I have Nerd's "known rapist" post preserved for posterity. It's a perfect symbol of not only Nerd's but PZ's lunacy. The fact PZ could let something like that slide while banning commenters who came in to say "But what about due process and presumption of innocence?" says much about PZ's mental state.Jan Steen wrote: Many commenters in the Grenade post used the word 'rape' or 'rapist'. In that thread our friend Nerd of Redhead referred to Shermer as a 'known rapist'. Peezus deleted many 'troll' posts in that thread, but did not object to the rape/rapist terminology. That's telling, in my book (and I trust in Shermer's lawyers' too). Anne Hanna is a Peezus apologist exhibiting William Lane Craig level dishonesty.
140.Gumby wrote:My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
Yeah, I went there.
Gumby wrote:I have Nerd's "known rapist" post preserved for posterity. It's a perfect symbol of not only Nerd's but PZ's lunacy. The fact PZ could let something like that slide while banning commenters who came in to say "But what about due process and presumption of innocence?" says much about PZ's mental state.
Those bannings, by the way, were the result of PZ making good on his threat to ban anyone who came in making the same "tired excuses" over and over. He wasn't going to let anything but "Shermer is a rapist" stand in the latter parts of that gigantic slanderfest of a comment thread. Asshole.
Jan Steen wrote:Did you use to work at MacDonalds?The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.
We have that, here, too. At least sometimes. Mostly though I think some people are FtB trolls and play their little game here. While others have stared into the FtB abyss too long and have picked some of their baboon habits.Gumby wrote:
As usual, these people go far, far out of their way to intentionally miss the point their critics are making. Dishonest fucktards.
The irony of Nerds libel is that he (Nerd of Redhead) is well known amongst the online atheist community for one basic thing - his tape looped FLOOSH dismissal of claims that are not backed by evidence.
Tribble wrote:Jan Steen wrote:Did you use to work at MacDonalds?The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.
It's the 'enjoy,' isn't it? Drives me crazy too...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcsic ... o1_250.gif“That's the funniest anecdote that I've ever heard! Now, why don't you tell one?â€
http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaes ... m-debacle/I’m fed up with this shit. I’m through with people who think women are objects to do with as they will, and people who think inability to consent is consent (pro tip: it is not, and if you have sex with someone who is unable to consent, you’re a rapist).
Sometimes I wonder if Mama Nerd hasn't warned PZ that Pharyngula is the only thing keeping Nerd from suicide or the funny farm. His hi-watt hostility makes a farce of the notion the place is "moderated."Gumby wrote:I have Nerd's "known rapist" post preserved for posterity. It's a perfect symbol of not only Nerd's but PZ's lunacy. The fact PZ could let something like that slide while banning commenters who came in to say "But what about due process and presumption of innocence?" says much about PZ's mental state.Jan Steen wrote: Many commenters in the Grenade post used the word 'rape' or 'rapist'. In that thread our friend Nerd of Redhead referred to Shermer as a 'known rapist'. Peezus deleted many 'troll' posts in that thread, but did not object to the rape/rapist terminology. That's telling, in my book (and I trust in Shermer's lawyers' too). Anne Hanna is a Peezus apologist exhibiting William Lane Craig level dishonesty.
Those bannings, by the way, were the result of PZ making good on his threat to ban anyone who came in making the same "tired excuses" over and over. He wasn't going to let anything but "Shermer is a rapist" stand in the latter parts of that gigantic slanderfest of a comment thread. Asshole.
Nerd would claim that the accusation itself is evidence. He said as much repeatedly in that thread. NoR blindly trusts Peezus who blindly trusts his informant. Ironic, for a fellow who likes to dismiss opinion that is not backed up by citations from the scientific literature. But this is FTB. Hypocrisy Central.Dick Strawkins wrote:The irony of Nerds libel is that he (Nerd of Redhead) is well known amongst the online atheist community for one basic thing - his tape looped FLOOSH dismissal of claims that are not backed by evidence.
I realize that he FLOOSHes anything that doesn't support his master (whether it is backed by evidence or not), but his stated criteria - a version of Hitchens "that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence" - is a good method for applying skepticism to claims that might otherwise be erroneously accepted.
And Nerd clearly doesn't understand this in the slightest.
Yeah, he said he wanted schism, he wanted the impure (CHUDs, in tour-de-force parlance) driven out. Repudiate and shun, his words.Hunt wrote:Does anyone recall when Myers, not too long ago, said that what was needed was a radical, revolutionary change? It's possible that he thinks he's now implementing it.
I may have misjudged Myers all along. It always seemed he had his head halfway up his ass and was really into all of this for the lulz. I'm now starting to believe that he really is a true-believer, and that this is his first step toward changing "the system" for the better. Kind of frightening, really.
Trophy wrote:PZ almost put everything on the line to defend her. Now I wonder if PZ is feeling betrayed. I mean, he should, but then again sometimes he's an idiot.katamari Damassi wrote:Twatson still silent eh? She's either smarter than I gave her credit for or is exercising an unusual amount of self control.
Sober. After a night at the bar, 160.Tribble wrote:140.Gumby wrote:My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
Yeah, I went there.
My favorite part is "Complete with evidence."
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Watson realizes that she's on the wrong team at this juncture and puts out a statement distancing herself strongly from it all.Ericb wrote:Trophy wrote:PZ almost put everything on the line to defend her. Now I wonder if PZ is feeling betrayed. I mean, he should, but then again sometimes he's an idiot.katamari Damassi wrote:Twatson still silent eh? She's either smarter than I gave her credit for or is exercising an unusual amount of self control.
I keep envisioning her as Brutus sharpening a knife.
Ape+lust wrote:I'm thinking that doing a book signing while waiting for a process server must really fuck with your head.
"Hi. Tell me my name and I'll sign it for you."
Nah. She has a comment here: http://skepchick.org/2013/08/if-you-don ... raped-duh/Karmakin wrote: I wouldn't be surprised at all if Watson realizes that she's on the wrong team at this juncture and puts out a statement distancing herself strongly from it all.
No comments by Poppy or Penn up now. One by Drescher, but it responds to another commenter.Whig wrote:Biohazard wrote:Also there has been an interesting exchange between Carrie Poppy and Barbara Drescher (and others) in a thread under a comment (regarding his latest video) posted by Wendy Hughes on Mr. Deity's FB page (don't know of a way to link directly to it).
It looked like there has been some redacting, also it looks like Penn Jillette made a comment.
I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.Tribble wrote:Jan Steen wrote:Did you use to work at MacDonalds?The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.
It's the 'enjoy,' isn't it? Drives me crazy too...
Do you want to have fries with that? Enjoy.Trophy wrote:I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.Tribble wrote:Jan Steen wrote:
Did you use to work at MacDonalds?
It's the 'enjoy,' isn't it? Drives me crazy too...
I can remember him being a toxic fuckwit years ago. I used to read Pharyngula on and off since 2006, and Nerd, while I don't remember him from the beginning, was certainly there about four years ago, several years before the schism, and he was just as annoying in those days. There was definitely a rather nasty cliquey vibe there from about four or five years back, that gradually culled the site of any independent voices. I stopped commenting long before Elevatorgate due to the atmosphere and I suspect a lot of others did too.Ape+lust wrote:Sometimes I wonder if Mama Nerd hasn't warned PZ that Pharyngula is the only thing keeping Nerd from suicide or the funny farm. His hi-watt hostility makes a farce of the notion the place is "moderated."Gumby wrote:I have Nerd's "known rapist" post preserved for posterity. It's a perfect symbol of not only Nerd's but PZ's lunacy. The fact PZ could let something like that slide while banning commenters who came in to say "But what about due process and presumption of innocence?" says much about PZ's mental state.Jan Steen wrote: Many commenters in the Grenade post used the word 'rape' or 'rapist'. In that thread our friend Nerd of Redhead referred to Shermer as a 'known rapist'. Peezus deleted many 'troll' posts in that thread, but did not object to the rape/rapist terminology. That's telling, in my book (and I trust in Shermer's lawyers' too). Anne Hanna is a Peezus apologist exhibiting William Lane Craig level dishonesty.
Those bannings, by the way, were the result of PZ making good on his threat to ban anyone who came in making the same "tired excuses" over and over. He wasn't going to let anything but "Shermer is a rapist" stand in the latter parts of that gigantic slanderfest of a comment thread. Asshole.
She is named as part of the defamation campaign in the C&D letter and she has the chutzpah to demand an apology of others?HoneyWagon wrote:
Boom. Splat :DGumby wrote:My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
Yeah, I went there.
You can be sure that Svan is currently glued to her monitor, scanning the pit for every ambiguous pic or quote for use in evidence against us at a future date.Ape+lust wrote:Boom. Splat :DGumby wrote:My guess is that soon, he'll be reduced to guessing Rebecca's weight at carnivals.Ape+lust wrote:Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
Yeah, I went there.
Sometimes, like on days like this, I feel like a chump for not going total-GRAAR on them. Look in the pic archive and you won't find anything gratuitously mean from us. Yet -- You're fat < You're a rape apologist; You're ugly < You're a closeted Marc Lepine. Even if I went full nasty, there'd still be an imbalance. I'm reeeally getting tired of those high-roading sociopaths getting away with their shit.
2013
This is not an update
PZ replies.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/
Atheism, Personal
by PZ Myers
I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish†on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).
But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.
Dick Strawkins wrote:2013
This is not an update
PZ replies.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/
Atheism, Personal
by PZ Myers
I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish†on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).
But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.
Full quote because it nails it. Even slymepitters get manipulated into pondering how to rid conferences of parties. Why let the sex-negative, socially dysfunctional dictate how to run social events? If someone has social anxieties, he should visit a therapist. If someone can't handle alcohol, he should stay the fuck out of bars. It's not the organizers' job to demolish a social event into a "safe space" for the disordered.Biohazard wrote:Posted by D. J. Grothe on FB about 30min. ago [ https://www.facebook.com/djgrothe ]:There is an impressive distemper these days on the internets.
Many smart, good people that I know personally seem to fear this "call-out culture" online that is going on right now in many communities online. Folks are immobilized by a moral scare or panic that they think they are watching unfold presently. As for me, I think it all seems increasingly like some surreal science fiction imagining of some bizarre future dystopia. And so, I say:
Consensual sex -- between any mature adult male or female etc. -- is a human good. It is something that should be prized and promoted (would there be world peace if people just had more and better sex, ha?).
But instead I think unduly-moralistic scolds end up actively diminishing human flourishing by their sex-negativity.
And I curse the unholy alliance of the quack far-left so-called feminists: a different kind of ardent feminist than I am -- and the authoritarian anti-sex rightist religionists whom I used to run with decades ago. (How the heck is it that these two equal opposites agree on so very much these days, and the two last decades, too?).
I have a disturbing answer, but it doesn't work for a social networking or FB comment..
I'm not above shamelessly promoting myself from time to time, but this constant "look at me, look at me, ain't I great, come over and read my blog and you'll see how great I really am" bullshit gets real old, real fast.Trophy wrote:I don't know what you guys have against him. I'm really enjoying his presence here.Tribble wrote:The Tim Channel wrote: I swing back and forth between terrorist analogies (American Girlyban) and Scientology/Mormon comparative associations. They both work and it helps keep the dreaded redundancy to a minimum. Enjoy.
It's the 'enjoy,' isn't it? Drives me crazy too...
And of course the "hyperskepticism" trope gets trotted out by Rippere. "Just how much evidence do you need?" Um, more than say, none?justinvacula wrote:http://www.policymic.com/mobile/article ... with-women
Peezus Christ... "Why atheists have a serious problem with women"
Poor little PeeZee.Dick Strawkins wrote:2013
This is not an update
PZ replies.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-update/
Atheism, Personal
by PZ Myers
I can’t explain how things are going except to say…it’s complicated. Do try to keep up with others — I can’t. I worry that this is the end of a lot of good things, or rather, things that had to be the potential to be good, and that without many changes, we’re going to lose too many great people, and that conditions have become intolerable. Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish†on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).
But even if I’m squeezed out, it’s time to pick a side and build a better secular movement. You can’t do it by simply accepting what is and looking the other way. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It’s especially important that you don’t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.
Jesus fucking Christ. Stop with the whining already. Self-pitying is really fucking low PZ. Grow up. Think about all of your great white *and* male privileges and that by your admission you're better off than most people. Surely that should be enough to keep you from sulking to the corner and thinking "Why no one is coming to play with me *sad face*?" right?PZ Myers wrote: Let me tell you that when I pressed “publish†on a certain post the other day, I knew that no matter how it turns out, the one thing I could be certain of is that I would be persona non grata in a large segment of the movement, and that I’d be spending many more quiet weekends at home in Morris in the future (which is OK, this is a nice place, and my day job is ramping up the responsibilities, and I’ll always have the blog).
I vote for 'Libelgate'JackRayner wrote:Do we have a name for this whole thing yet? Is it GrenadeGate or what?
