Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Rystefn wrote:Well, that was easy. Here I was thinking it would need to be something specific like PZ's book tanking, him getting taken to the cleaners by Shermer's legal team, nearly losing his job over this bullshit, and having to e-beg his way to the next round of crazy-assed feminist pseudoskeptic conferences whereupon, seeing that she can't gain anything from him anymore since she's now a bigger fish than he is, Twatson will kick his sorry ass to the curb, probably by accusing him of sexually harassing her. After seeing this prediction when people are crowing about how I called it all before it happens, she'll deny knowing anything about this Rystefn person except that he's a misogynistic, lying asshole, and probably a sociopath.
I hate to say it, but in some ways I'm genuinely sympathetic to Myers. We're about the same age, the one when you realize that whatever glory you were going to get in life, you've probably already had. Flounced from Skepticism, mocked on comedy shows, a once impressive blog following reduced to a handful of rabid squirrels. Is that all there is?

Well, Dr. Myers, you have the chance for more. You really believe that woman was raped, right? And you really believe she's not the only one, right? And you really believe that the women can't defend themselves because Patriarchy and Rape Culture, right?

If this is your last chance, what do you want to do really? Fold? Or polish your armor, send for your stoutest lance, mount your snow white gelding, and CHARGE!


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Damn, it's been a while since I borked the tags. That's what I get for getting cocky, I guess.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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KenD wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:The UK does have a fairly "meh" attitude to christianity, and thus there is no breach point available for hardcore feminism to squeeze a wedge into.
I'm not sure I see the link between attitudes towards Christianity and "hardcore" feminism. Sweden is one of the most atheistic countries in the world, but I doubt there's anywhere else where radical feminism has had as much mainstream political influence.
It's not so much the link between christianity and radfem (though their campaigns against porn and sexworkers can combine). It's that, in the UK, christians have less clout than in the US (in spite of Anglicanism being the 'established church' and having bishops in the house of lords). Being atheist/sceptic is not such an anti-establishment position as it is in the US. In it's passive (i.e. non-activist form) it's pretty much the default position. Therefore, you can't as easily pose as being 'radical' - simply by being anti-church - in the UK as you can in the US.

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Rystefn wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:[quote="Rystefn"
Well, that was easy. Here I was thinking it would need to be something specific like PZ's book tanking, him getting taken to the cleaners by Shermer's legal team, nearly losing his job over this bullshit, and having to e-beg his way to the next round of crazy-assed feminist pseudoskeptic conferences whereupon, seeing that she can't gain anything from him anymore since she's now a bigger fish than he is, Twatson will kick his sorry ass to the curb, probably by accusing him of sexually harassing her. After seeing this prediction when people are crowing about how I called it all before it happens, she'll deny knowing anything about this Rystefn person except that he's a misogynistic, lying asshole, and probably a sociopath.
Rystefn, given your previous life as a friend of Becky, this seems a less than humorous comment.
Wait... was I supposed to be making a joke or predicting the future? Or are you just somehow surprised at me being malicious for some reason?[/quote]

No, I just thought you were indicating you had some dirt on Becky et al. Feel free to share.

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Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Rystefn wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Rystefn, given your previous life as a friend of Becky, this seems a less than humorous comment.
Wait... was I supposed to be making a joke or predicting the future? Or are you just somehow surprised at me being malicious for some reason?
No, I just thought you were indicating you had some dirt on Becky et al. Feel free to share.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, I'm privy to some things, but I'm not sure you lot would find any of the things you don't already know or strongly suspect to be very interesting, really.

Although, I am more than usually certain that, even though I've gone to bat insisting that she's not a sociopath, she would not only not do the same for me, but would likely actively support the argument that I am. Not sure if that says more about her or me, really.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Disphoria Bentsome provides a transcript of the evil Mr. Deity's apology for Teh Rape Culture. The Horror!
I want to take this time today to answer this question I get a lot: why don’t I believe in the gospels.
Um — the first big problem I have with the gospels is that they are anonymous — a lot of people don’t know that, but it’s true.
Um, and no good skeptic, atheist, freethinker should ever accept any anonymous report just offhand; aah especially when we’re talking about something truly awful — I mean, the gospel writers have Jesus doing some pretty ugly stuff. Umm, killing a tree for no reason, which makes him look completely insane; they have him claiming to be God, which would have been a major blasphemy within Judaism at the time; and they have him turning water into wine, which we all know is just a tactic to get the ladies drunk — right? — I mean, no-one turns water into wine for any reason that’s not just completely nefarious!
But if you’re gonna talk [whoopee noise] about someone like that, you can’t do that anonymously — and if you do, what is that? What are we talking about?
That’s nothing more than gossip.
And I think that as good skeptics, atheists, freethinkers, we should all know how absolutely toxic, disgusting and beneath us it is to repeat and or report mere gossip.
[Person with wine bottle approaches wineglass-holding Mr. Deity: "would you like a refill?" "Um, no. Thank you."]
Now. See how easy that was?
Here’s another little tip: if you find it hard to say no to the refill, you can just leave the glass full! Don’t take another sip!
That’s my friendly little piece of advice to those of you without a backbone, or any sense of personal responsibility!
The other problem with the gospels is that these anonymous reports are made years after the fact; some scholars say decades. Ah, that gives Jesus no opportunity to refute the claims — I mean, there isn’t a decent justice system in the entire world that doesn’t give the accused the right to confront his or her accuser. That’s just basic justice.
And in many cases, even the witnesses of the witnesses are anonymous.
Really?! C’mon! We’re skeptics! We don’t take stuff like that at face value!
The other problem here is confirmation bias: the tendency to see only what we wanna see.
That’s clearly what the gospel writers were doing here; they wanted a hero (or a villain, depending on your perspective), and they found one!
But, as good skeptics, we should all know the power of confirmation bias — I mean, for heaven’s sake, they found witches in Salem, and Joe McCarthy found the communists under every bed — as skeptics, we need to stand up to these anonymous gossipal authors and those who would repeat such gossip and say “have you no sense of decency, Sir! At long last, have you left no sense of decency.”

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Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
And they are sponsored by....

http://i.imgur.com/eNbvgMl.jpg

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Referring:
Badger3k wrote:

Thimbledick has a post up, I guess giving up on Atheists United now that someone (a relatively new hire, I guess) apparently got death threats after mentioning feminism. Have no idea what the story is, don't care, because I would trust them to tell the truth as much as I trust a creationists math on the age of the Earth.

But...he does link to his timeline and calls it "well-evidenced transgressions" (here). He throws in some Deep Space Nine because...I have no clue. Geek creed? He does title his post "Skeptic Empire", even though it's about Atheists United, whoever they are. Not sure of the correlation there, since while there is overlap, there is no necessity for them to be the same. Plus, I wouldn't consider anything from the ragtag hodgepodge of skeptic and atheists group as an "Empire". Maybe this is his need to not only feel part of something bigger, but part of something that is overwhelmingly bigger and powerful. Of course, look at the way we atheists have driven all signs of religion underground, where people are afraid to mention the word "god" except in hushed whispers. Just how much Fox news do you watch Lousy?

He does ask one question that may be rhetorical:"What kind of rationalists are we?"

Quite simply, Jason, you're not.

I replied:

Read my last post. Page 181, I think. Back story on death threats...

Badger3k replied back:

You're referring to the post where someone made them on your page? If so, I did, but good to point back to it, though. Did you see the comment on you by the poster at Ophie's blog. Not sure where I posted it, but it is from Atheist Revolution. They didn't say you were a harasser, but you know how it goes.

And speaking of atheism and religion, I just saw this posted and had to say WTF? It has nothing to do with the usual suspects, but about a judge who changed a kids name from Messiah to Martin because it offended her. FFRF is looking into it.
My thoughts:

Yes, I read Jason's post, and the link to the one on Almost Diamonds, as well as the comments - including the one from Sarah Jones, as well as the link to the story Sarah wrote on her own blog in response that contains personal insults directed at me.

I don't usually do this because, frankly, I don't give a fuck. Seriously, I could care less. A few people got butt hurt over the blog post I wrote (which is to be expected) with most of them either willfully ignoring the entire point of what I wrote or didn't read it but got all butt hurt through the proxy of someone else who claimed to have read it.

Unfortunately, Sarah Jones became the target of a mentally ill individual who used bogus death threats to bolster his delusion that he is a genetically engineered soldier who has been classified as a walking sovereign state and is somewhat in charge at Interpol and is above the law.

Sarah chose to run with it as she did. Her choice. Now she and her supporters are apparently surprised or mystified or horrified that I deleted the death threats.

Really? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

I deleted the threats because it was the right thing to do. I blocked the mentally ill individual because it was the right thing to do. I re-posted for the gazillionth time on my Facebook wall about my long-standing policy concerning threats, because it was the right thing to do. I issued an apology to Sarah Jones for having to endure the attention of a mentally ill young man, because it was the right thing to do.

The issue that Sarah has with EllenBeth has absolutely zero to do with me. It grew out of an exchange they had on my Facebook wall that was taken to Twitter. Not my problem.

It does not surprise me at all that the SJWs and the FC(n) have written blog posts, Facebook or Twitter posts or otherwise commented or supported those whose comments accuse me of being a rape apologist, a misogynist, racist, homophobe, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah, or that I even may be one of those wheelchair sexual harassers/abusers/rapists myself, or that I am on some list somewhere that has me pegged as some sort of pariah.

People think I should be outraged, but seriously, I don't care what the fuck these people think about me. I could shut down everything, blogs, social networks, etc., and tomorrow wake up perfectly happy.

For one, I am fucking retired. Retired, meaning I don't blog for money, don't write for money and I don't go on speaking gigs. Additionally, I know I am none of these things they call me and the people in my life that matter to me also know it. Their rants, accusations and attacks against me, as well as their willful ignorance and persistent desire to take my sporadic and occasional writing completely out of context have no bearing on my personal happiness.

Besides, 'the movement' has gotten so fractured and splintered by the Feminazis and their sympathizers that I have absolutely no interest in being any part of it. I'm perfectly content as a retired grandfather, collecting my monthly disability check, enjoying the remaining time I have left on the planet spending time with my wife, kids and grandkids.

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Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
"As featured on Ancient Aliens"

He didn't just divorce skepticism (to quote Pitchguest) he went full Setar.

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Aneris wrote:...

I happened upon this older video. Didn't know that Mr. Deity commented on PZ McCarthy before, with Misogynist Hat on.

[youtube]zKAO_ieeqTo[/youtube]

For those who somehow missed it, despite that it's all over the place, he commented on current events in the latest episode Featuring a Hat (mostly in the part after the skit).
Hahahahaha. That is funny. I'd only watched part of the start of it when it came out in 7/2011; this is another one that's definitely worth watching all the way to the end.

"Cooler heads will prevail. Unfortunately, sometimes cooler heads are rolling on the ground by the time that happens." (paraphrase)

"I'm Muslima."

:lol:

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katamari Damassi wrote:Twatson still silent eh? She's either smarter than I gave her credit for or is exercising an unusual amount of self control.
PZ almost put everything on the line to defend her. Now I wonder if PZ is feeling betrayed. I mean, he should, but then again sometimes he's an idiot.

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Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."

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Ä uest wrote:http://i.imgur.com/8NIkbOu.jpg

At the Elyse Mofo Anders Skepchick Mr. Deity thread. http://skepchick.org/2013/08/if-you-don ... raped-duh/

Suggesting people know their drink limits and giving them ways to not drink is more like telling people not to text while driving, and not to answer texts or phone calls while driving.)

It's saying keep your eyes on the fucking road.
These people are so easy to troll:
But I’m putting all my money on misogynistic dickbag given that he [mr deity] has a video on the front page of Michael Shermer’s Skeptic Society featuring himself with Shermer in a MythBusters “parody.” (Which I watched long enough to see them putting a strange woman in the backseat of their car to drive her around parking lots to, I guess, bust her myth. *wink wink*)
"Bust her myth *wink* *wink*"? Someone has not outgrown her teenage years yet.

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Ape+lust wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."
No joke, apparently. It was mentioned here a number of months back.

Funny, though - it's not listed among Myers' upcoming conferences on Lanyrd...

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Meanwhile, elsewhere in the feminist sphere: a tumblr page claiming to be written by Anita Sarkeesian "kinda like" fiction involving the killing of video game designers. (Link is via archive.is -- a freezepage equivalent.)

There's utterly no implication she's making real death threats, but Jesus, hypocrisy much?

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I seriously wear these all the time. I have a winter one, and a vented summer one:

http://www.barmahhats.com.au/
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I also have an oilskin drover I wear throughout the rainy season. I am so Rape Culture!

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Ape+lust wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."
Why did I just picture the end of Peezus, swigging Woolite on some street corner?

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Skep tickle wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."
No joke, apparently. It was mentioned here a number of months back.

Funny, though - it's not listed among Myers' upcoming conferences on Lanyrd...
Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?

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Ape+lust wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:Guest: "Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/"

Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."
No joke, apparently. It was mentioned here a number of months back.

Funny, though - it's not listed among Myers' upcoming conferences on Lanyrd...
Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
Worth a look back to April 2013 (the conference poster was different then):
viewtopic.php?p=85226#p85226

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Satan wrote:Meanwhile, elsewhere in the feminist sphere: a tumblr page claiming to be written by Anita Sarkeesian "kinda like" fiction involving the killing of video game designers. (Link is via archive.is -- a freezepage equivalent.)

There's utterly no implication she's making real death threats, but Jesus, hypocrisy much?


Someone else wrote it, and she liked it so she stuck it in her own Tumblr.

This is her foreword, at the top;

Anita Sarkeesian wrote: Apparently this Fanfic a la carte tumblr creates short 1000 word stories based on user submissions. Someone seems to have requested a fanfic about me and while it’s certainly both surreal and bizarre, I think I kinda like it.

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[Excuse me, Satan, if what I wrote is actually no different from what you were saying...]

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Post by Skep tickle »

Ape+lust wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wow, I missed it earlier. He needs the advice of a good agent. What's up for November, booking slots between the stripper and sword swallower?
The agent will have to get in line - there's a lawyer filling his ears with advice right now.

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JackRayner wrote:
Satan wrote:Meanwhile, elsewhere in the feminist sphere: a tumblr page claiming to be written by Anita Sarkeesian "kinda like" fiction involving the killing of video game designers. (Link is via archive.is -- a freezepage equivalent.)

There's utterly no implication she's making real death threats, but Jesus, hypocrisy much?


Someone else wrote it, and she liked it so she stuck it in her own Tumblr.

This is her foreword, at the top;

Anita Sarkeesian wrote: Apparently this Fanfic a la carte tumblr creates short 1000 word stories based on user submissions. Someone seems to have requested a fanfic about me and while it’s certainly both surreal and bizarre, I think I kinda like it.


If someone sends me gun/murder/erotica involving real life people, I trash it. I may consider reporting it.

I do not post it to all my thousands of followers and say I like it.

This should be shoved down the throat of any Sarkeesian follower starting first with the folks at Salon/Slate/Atlantic/Jezebel/XOJane, of course bringing it up will just bring a whole bunch of rationalizations and defenses and how it's humor and how it's different.

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Tapir wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
And they are sponsored by....

http://i.imgur.com/eNbvgMl.jpg

:?
Ok, sounds like a woo-baggers festival and, of course, I'm glad to see PeeZus playing to the UFO crowd after shitting on JREF as being nothing but UFO/Bigfoot-deniers, but what's the problem with the hat maker?

I got some whiff of this around the time of Al and his 'racist hat'. Are SJW/hipsters trying to appropriate the classic fedora? They may die and be damned, I'll keep wearing mine!

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Post by bovarchist »

Ape+lust wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."
Far as I'm concerned, that's pretty much Myers' natural level. But I still intend to throw off a note to the organizers saying I have no interest in attending a conference that Myers is associated with.

Of course I had no interest in attending their conference anyway, but they don't need to know that. ;)

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JackRayner wrote:
Satan wrote:Meanwhile, elsewhere in the feminist sphere: a tumblr page claiming to be written by Anita Sarkeesian "kinda like" fiction involving the killing of video game designers. (Link is via archive.is -- a freezepage equivalent.)

There's utterly no implication she's making real death threats, but Jesus, hypocrisy much?


Someone else wrote it, and she liked it so she stuck it in her own Tumblr.

This is her foreword, at the top;

Anita Sarkeesian wrote: Apparently this Fanfic a la carte tumblr creates short 1000 word stories based on user submissions. Someone seems to have requested a fanfic about me and while it’s certainly both surreal and bizarre, I think I kinda like it.


Surreal and bizarre are two words for it. Crap came first to my mind. Maybe she needs Yemmy to write a poem about her?

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Al Stefanelli wrote:Referring:
Badger3k wrote:

Thimbledick has a post up, I guess giving up on Atheists United now that someone (a relatively new hire, I guess) apparently got death threats after mentioning feminism. Have no idea what the story is, don't care, because I would trust them to tell the truth as much as I trust a creationists math on the age of the Earth.

But...he does link to his timeline and calls it "well-evidenced transgressions" (here). He throws in some Deep Space Nine because...I have no clue. Geek creed? He does title his post "Skeptic Empire", even though it's about Atheists United, whoever they are. Not sure of the correlation there, since while there is overlap, there is no necessity for them to be the same. Plus, I wouldn't consider anything from the ragtag hodgepodge of skeptic and atheists group as an "Empire". Maybe this is his need to not only feel part of something bigger, but part of something that is overwhelmingly bigger and powerful. Of course, look at the way we atheists have driven all signs of religion underground, where people are afraid to mention the word "god" except in hushed whispers. Just how much Fox news do you watch Lousy?

He does ask one question that may be rhetorical:"What kind of rationalists are we?"

Quite simply, Jason, you're not.

I replied:

Read my last post. Page 181, I think. Back story on death threats...

Badger3k replied back:

You're referring to the post where someone made them on your page? If so, I did, but good to point back to it, though. Did you see the comment on you by the poster at Ophie's blog. Not sure where I posted it, but it is from Atheist Revolution. They didn't say you were a harasser, but you know how it goes.

And speaking of atheism and religion, I just saw this posted and had to say WTF? It has nothing to do with the usual suspects, but about a judge who changed a kids name from Messiah to Martin because it offended her. FFRF is looking into it.
My thoughts:

Yes, I read Jason's post, and the link to the one on Almost Diamonds, as well as the comments - including the one from Sarah Jones, as well as the link to the story Sarah wrote on her own blog in response that contains personal insults directed at me.

I don't usually do this because, frankly, I don't give a fuck. Seriously, I could care less. A few people got butt hurt over the blog post I wrote (which is to be expected) with most of them either willfully ignoring the entire point of what I wrote or didn't read it but got all butt hurt through the proxy of someone else who claimed to have read it.

Unfortunately, Sarah Jones became the target of a mentally ill individual who used bogus death threats to bolster his delusion that he is a genetically engineered soldier who has been classified as a walking sovereign state and is somewhat in charge at Interpol and is above the law.

Sarah chose to run with it as she did. Her choice. Now she and her supporters are apparently surprised or mystified or horrified that I deleted the death threats.

Really? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

I deleted the threats because it was the right thing to do. I blocked the mentally ill individual because it was the right thing to do. I re-posted for the gazillionth time on my Facebook wall about my long-standing policy concerning threats, because it was the right thing to do. I issued an apology to Sarah Jones for having to endure the attention of a mentally ill young man, because it was the right thing to do.

The issue that Sarah has with EllenBeth has absolutely zero to do with me. It grew out of an exchange they had on my Facebook wall that was taken to Twitter. Not my problem.

It does not surprise me at all that the SJWs and the FC(n) have written blog posts, Facebook or Twitter posts or otherwise commented or supported those whose comments accuse me of being a rape apologist, a misogynist, racist, homophobe, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah, or that I even may be one of those wheelchair sexual harassers/abusers/rapists myself, or that I am on some list somewhere that has me pegged as some sort of pariah.

People think I should be outraged, but seriously, I don't care what the fuck these people think about me. I could shut down everything, blogs, social networks, etc., and tomorrow wake up perfectly happy.

For one, I am fucking retired. Retired, meaning I don't blog for money, don't write for money and I don't go on speaking gigs. Additionally, I know I am none of these things they call me and the people in my life that matter to me also know it. Their rants, accusations and attacks against me, as well as their willful ignorance and persistent desire to take my sporadic and occasional writing completely out of context have no bearing on my personal happiness.

Besides, 'the movement' has gotten so fractured and splintered by the Feminazis and their sympathizers that I have absolutely no interest in being any part of it. I'm perfectly content as a retired grandfather, collecting my monthly disability check, enjoying the remaining time I have left on the planet spending time with my wife, kids and grandkids.
I'm just as untouchable to the #atheismplus Girlyban black ops team as your are Al. We're both old enough that we realize the grim reaper is a much more ominous threat than a bunch of WATB bent on swinging back and forth between the beard and the dangling nutsack of their octopussy obsessed Monkey God. That is all for now. Just up. Coffee. Must have coffee.

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Skep tickle wrote:Worth a look back to April 2013 (the conference poster was different then):
viewtopic.php?p=85226#p85226
Oh-ho-ho-ho! Thanks! If Jan Steen waltzed in with that, I'd slap his back and say "well done!"

He won't debate creationists because it'll give them credibility... the alienistas must've promised him a crate of squid jerky or something. PZ, what the hell is the matter with you?

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Ä uest wrote: If someone sends me gun/murder/erotica involving real life people, I trash it. I may consider reporting it.

I do not post it to all my thousands of followers and say I like it.

This should be shoved down the throat of any Sarkeesian follower starting first with the folks at Salon/Slate/Atlantic/Jezebel/XOJane, of course bringing it up will just bring a whole bunch of rationalizations and defenses and how it's humor and how it's different.
Haha. Well, just in case it gets memory holed, here's the Freezepage.

By the by, I had to cut out the rest of the conversation that included the tumblr link 'cause it gave me this message when I tried to post just now:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... d86ec2.png

Anyone know what that's about? :think:

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JackRayner wrote:
Ä uest wrote: If someone sends me gun/murder/erotica involving real life people, I trash it. I may consider reporting it.

I do not post it to all my thousands of followers and say I like it.

This should be shoved down the throat of any Sarkeesian follower starting first with the folks at Salon/Slate/Atlantic/Jezebel/XOJane, of course bringing it up will just bring a whole bunch of rationalizations and defenses and how it's humor and how it's different.
Haha. Well, just in case it gets memory holed, here's the Freezepage.

By the by, I had to cut out the rest of the conversation that included the tumblr link 'cause it gave me this message when I tried to post just now:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... d86ec2.png

Anyone know what that's about? :think:
You're a well-known spammer? Just a guess... ;)

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Badger3k wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
Satan wrote:Meanwhile, elsewhere in the feminist sphere: a tumblr page claiming to be written by Anita Sarkeesian "kinda like" fiction involving the killing of video game designers. (Link is via archive.is -- a freezepage equivalent.)

There's utterly no implication she's making real death threats, but Jesus, hypocrisy much?


Someone else wrote it, and she liked it so she stuck it in her own Tumblr.

This is her foreword, at the top;

Anita Sarkeesian wrote: Apparently this Fanfic a la carte tumblr creates short 1000 word stories based on user submissions. Someone seems to have requested a fanfic about me and while it’s certainly both surreal and bizarre, I think I kinda like it.


Expect her to launch a Kickstarter project to "analyze" it for women specific trope patterns. She'll also want to look at the underlying source code to the story generation software for imbedded patriarchal "Easter eggs". She is going to need specialists. Bottom line? It won't be cheap. Girlyban operatives be on alert for an incoming $contribution$ request for make-up, earrings and "research". Also, possibly shoes. She'll make the claim she wore the last pair out kicking so much MRA ass.

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Skep tickle wrote:
JackRayner wrote: By the by, I had to cut out the rest of the conversation that included the tumblr link 'cause it gave me this message when I tried to post just now:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... d86ec2.png

Anyone know what that's about? :think:
You're a well-known spammer? Just a guess... ;)
Hm.....

Maybe it has to do with the fact that I'm away from home. The place I've been spending the night at has a different ISP...

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Badger wrote: This is her foreword, at the top;
Anita Sarkeesian wrote: Apparently this Fanfic a la carte tumblr creates short 1000 word stories based on user submissions. Someone seems to have requested a fanfic about me and while it’s certainly both surreal and bizarre, I think I kinda like it.
Surreal and bizarre are two words for it. Crap came first to my mind. Maybe she needs Yemmy to write a poem about her?
Steady on. I mean, I'm no fan of Sarkeesian, but she's done nothing to deserve that.

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bovarchist wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
Wait... what? Joke? Identity hijack? Or is he really going to be the token skeptic at a woo-for-all?

"Will disbelieve for rent money."
Far as I'm concerned, that's pretty much Myers' natural level. But I still intend to throw off a note to the organizers saying I have no interest in attending a conference that Myers is associated with.

Of course I had no interest in attending their conference anyway, but they don't need to know that. ;)
Nah, why bother? If he wants to branch out in this new direction, more (alien telepathic) power to him. Heck, he has already divorced the skeptic movement, & many these people are probably atheists, so it could be a reasonably good niche for him to develop. Besides, it looks like they need someone to educate them on how to broaden their appeal beyond white men, & PZ could be just the person to do that.

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Man, Sarkeesian is so easy.
“Don’t worry, Anita, I believe in you, and though it might not seem like it does, the internet believes in you too.”

“Thanks, Spider-man.” Anita said.

“No probs. Oh, and MJ told me to tell you she’s a huge fan.” he said, and web zipped away just as another pumpkin bomb exploded a few yards away.
And the way this person eschews pronouns for Anita, Anita, Anita must've pinged her ego until it was thrumming.

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Skep tickle wrote:Nah, why bother? If he wants to branch out in this new direction, more (alien telepathic) power to him. Heck, he has already divorced the skeptic movement, & many these people are probably atheists, so it could be a reasonably good niche for him to develop. Besides, it looks like they need someone to educate them on how to broaden their appeal beyond white men, & PZ could be just the person to do that.
A list of Greys who'll ply you with drinks before anal probes. If they throw him out for being too crazy, I will cheerfully muster a donation for them.

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So this lands in my Legalbrief feed this morning:
Judge chides r ape victim

A r ape victim was chided by a South Gauteng High Court judge because she didn’t want to deal with her ordeal. Judge Peter Mabuse yesterday told the 29-year-old woman ‘the scourge of r ape’ couldn’t be stopped by such an attitude, notes a report in The Times. He made the comment during the trial of Constable Mokolo Molekoa, who is accused of kidnapping, r aping and robbing 17 women in and around Tembisa between 2011 and last year. He was a sector commander at the Randburg police station at the time of the r apes. Testifying yesterday, the woman said she had wanted to bury the memory of being gang-r aped near a cemetery in April 2011. She said that initially, she didn’t co-operate with police when her alleged r apist was caught. In a bid to ‘forget it all and never revisit it’, she failed to turn up for an identity parade. In response the judge said: ‘There is a general outcry that these crimes go unpunished because of a lack of co-operation from victims. Do you think the scourge of r ape can be stopped if you opt for that kind of attitude?’ The matter was postponed to next Wednesday.
Full report in The Times (subscription needed)
Unfortunately the full report is behind a paywall.

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Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:

http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/zWfH9aI.png?1

Pitchguest is there, trying to inject some oxygen into the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZ86PGVOQk

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So Anita raised a huge sum of money to buy games and games consoles so she could play them looking for sexist tropes to analyse. In reality it seems she simply grabbed footage and screenshots from other Youtubers' channels and reported on those:

http://victorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/ ... urces.html

She didn't contribute any money towards the Youtubers in question, so what has she done with the $160,000 she raised?

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There is something missing amidst this baboon witch hunt, what is it? Harris, they forgot to accuse Harris, or is he their encore. He is the jew atheist after all, and jew atheists are extra bad, because, islam.

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Skep tickle wrote:Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:

http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/zWfH9aI.png?1

Pitchguest is there, trying to inject some oxygen into the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZ86PGVOQk
Ugh have they never even seen ONE episode of Judge Judy?

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ERV wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:

http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/zWfH9aI.png?1

Pitchguest is there, trying to inject some oxygen into the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZ86PGVOQk
Ugh have they never even seen ONE episode of Judge Judy?
Or maybe any episode of Law and Order SVU... fucking fiction even treats this shit more realistically then these twits

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In the comments to Benson's Transcript thread, changerofbits says he has been helping Dalton slowly see the light (emphasis added):
I’m in the YT comments as nihilvenitadeus and he’s been responding to me. Had to point to Wikipedia for a blame the victim definition and he seems to have taken a small step by acknowledging that its not OK to rape drunk people (which is good as the goons are wailing at full volume). I know, it’s ridiculous that he’s doing this should just get it, but I was as ignorant and as influnced by rape culture as him earlier in life.
("he" here being misterdeity, aka MrDeity, aka Dalton)

Here's the exchange changerofbits/nihilvenitadeus is referring to, in the comments at MrDeity's Hat at youtube:

http://i.imgur.com/MKvT6BA.png

MrDeity: "I have never said (nor thought) that any woman who is raped is in any way responsible for her rape -- whether she was drunk or not -- not even partially. The vignetter (sic) about the wine was in response to the woman on PZ's blog who said she couldn't say no to a refill."

That's a clarification in response to nihil's assumption that MrDeity was blaming the victim, not a change in position in response to nihil's educational efforts.

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Here's the other exchange I found between them in those comments; changerofbits/nilhilvenitadeus further helps MrDeity come closer to the SJW position. Or something.
http://i.imgur.com/CbljHVr.png

I know it's just an analogy, but forgive me for thinking it's kind of telling: It's good to broadcast this "information" (even if no more than rumors) because the highest priorities are that we protect children from purported child molesters and women from purported woman-molesters.

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ERV wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Argh, why did I go look at the comments to Mr Deity's Hat video...??? This is but a tiny sample (comment count is 999, maybe the counter doesn't go above 3 digits?). Anne Hanna is piping in with every talking point - I spared you those - as well as (along with other people) eschewing dictionary definitions of words like "evidence" and so on in favor of their own personal understanding of these concepts:

http://i.imgur.com/N5OAF3C.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/zWfH9aI.png?1

Pitchguest is there, trying to inject some oxygen into the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZ86PGVOQk
Ugh have they never even seen ONE episode of Judge Judy?
Why would they do that? Being exposed to even the tiniest of actual law would crush many of their most deeply held beliefs. Remember, the only way to sort correct from incorrect is to avoid and/or shout down anything that can be taken as any sort of disagreement.

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Its the same problem as always. You cannot reason with emotional people. So the more logical of us go hey wait that doesn't make sense to jump to conclusions and the answer is think of the feelings.

Fucking empathy is a great human quality but it shouldn't be the deciding factor for every fucking thing you encounter in life.

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Oh, arrrrgh some more, I just really read the last bit of nil's last comment on the first exchange above:
...Anyway, that's neither here nor there concerning the 'couldn't say no' situation you are addressing. If you’re getting some personal attention from a celebrity – someone you really admire for multiple good reasons – and they’re subtly refilling your glass, do you really need to think “I need to avoid being drunk raped” is on your mind?

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Post by Ä uest »

Rystefn wrote:
ERV wrote: Ugh have they never even seen ONE episode of Judge Judy?
Why would they do that? Being exposed to even the tiniest of actual law would crush many of their most deeply held beliefs. Remember, the only way to sort correct from incorrect is to avoid and/or shout down anything that can be taken as any sort of disagreement.
This is in fact the part that I cannot understand -- all of the people at the FTB forums and here that have no clue as to what hearsay is, either from movies or from classes.

4000+ comments and not a single FTBer says, oh yeah, that's hearsay, I learned about first year law school, or I remember that from this movie or that book, or anything.

Are they truly this ignorant or is it agenda at work?

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Willful ignorance, I should say. Like creationists and libertarians.

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Skep tickle wrote:Oh, arrrrgh some more, I just really read the last bit of nil's last comment on the first exchange above:
...Anyway, that's neither here nor there concerning the 'couldn't say no' situation you are addressing. If you’re getting some personal attention from a celebrity – someone you really admire for multiple good reasons – and they’re subtly refilling your glass, do you really need to think “I need to avoid being drunk raped” is on your mind?
The dumb is strong in that one!

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Skep tickle wrote:Oh, arrrrgh some more, I just really read the last bit of nil's last comment on the first exchange above:
...Anyway, that's neither here nor there concerning the 'couldn't say no' situation you are addressing. If you’re getting some personal attention from a celebrity – someone you really admire for multiple good reasons – and they’re subtly refilling your glass, do you really need to think “I need to avoid being drunk raped” is on your mind?
Right... because the only reason to not get black-out drunk is fear of rape. And you know, despite everyone being a potential rapist, I guess famous people don't count? It's weird how they endorse the stupid Schrodinger's Rapist bullshit that says all women should rightly treat all men as rapists at all times, just in case, but if you someone with a dick suggests not being a fucking idiot for ten seconds, that's victim-blaming.

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I haven't had a chance to read all the recent posts.
But as Carrie Poppy has appeared in a number of Mr. Diety vids, I guess she will be stopping that now.

Various links in no particular order


[youtube]FiEIc-U13pE[/youtube]


http://skepchick.org/2012/11/women-in-s ... rie-poppy/

https://www.facebook.com/carriepoppy/posts/757676183971

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Rystefn wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Oh, arrrrgh some more, I just really read the last bit of nil's last comment on the first exchange above:
...Anyway, that's neither here nor there concerning the 'couldn't say no' situation you are addressing. If you’re getting some personal attention from a celebrity – someone you really admire for multiple good reasons – and they’re subtly refilling your glass, do you really need to think “I need to avoid being drunk raped” is on your mind?
Right... because the only reason to not get black-out drunk is fear of rape. And you know, despite everyone being a potential rapist, I guess famous people don't count? It's weird how they endorse the stupid Schrodinger's Rapist bullshit that says all women should rightly treat all men as rapists at all times, just in case, but if you someone with a dick suggests not being a fucking idiot for ten seconds, that's victim-blaming.
And none of that applies to celebrities because they are too star struck to consider the consequences per the links to the conversation above.

People that want no and have every excuse for not having responsibility assigned to them but also argue consequences are never their fault unless it benefits them. We just want the world to give us everything with no effort or any cooperation with the rest of the world around them.

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...and yet, if I were to take everyone who thought that way and tossed them all into industrial shredders, somehow I would be the criminal. Now, I ask you, is that justice?

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Posted by D. J. Grothe on FB about 30min. ago [ https://www.facebook.com/djgrothe ]:
There is an impressive distemper these days on the internets.

Many smart, good people that I know personally seem to fear this "call-out culture" online that is going on right now in many communities online. Folks are immobilized by a moral scare or panic that they think they are watching unfold presently. As for me, I think it all seems increasingly like some surreal science fiction imagining of some bizarre future dystopia. And so, I say:
Consensual sex -- between any mature adult male or female etc. -- is a human good. It is something that should be prized and promoted (would there be world peace if people just had more and better sex, ha?).

But instead I think unduly-moralistic scolds end up actively diminishing human flourishing by their sex-negativity.

And I curse the unholy alliance of the quack far-left so-called feminists: a different kind of ardent feminist than I am -- and the authoritarian anti-sex rightist religionists whom I used to run with decades ago. (How the heck is it that these two equal opposites agree on so very much these days, and the two last decades, too?).

I have a disturbing answer, but it doesn't work for a social networking or FB comment..

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Skep tickle wrote:I know it's just an analogy, but forgive me for thinking it's kind of telling: It's good to broadcast this "information" (even if no more than rumors) because the highest priorities are that we protect children from purported child molesters and women from purported woman-molesters.
I'd like to thank the FtB justice warriors for reprising the Bush years, because Zog knows I've missed them so.

Glittering generalities: "Freedom was attacked and freedom will be defended" -- "The radical notion that women are people too."

Absurd framing: "Why do you hate America?" -- "Why are you a rape apologist?"

Dire consequences: "Doesn't matter that he didn't have WMD, what if he DID and we didn't act?" -- "We're not calling him a rapist, we're giving voice to a victim so MORE women don't get raped."

Fear: "Axis of Evil" -- "Rape Culture"

Shut 'em down: "You're with us or against us." -- "You're with us or against us."

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Post by Ä uest »

Biohazard wrote:Posted by D. J. Grothe on FB about 30min. ago [ https://www.facebook.com/djgrothe ]:
There is an impressive distemper these days on the internets.

Many smart, good people that I know personally seem to fear this "call-out culture" online that is going on right now in many communities online. Folks are immobilized by a moral scare or panic that they think they are watching unfold presently. As for me, I think it all seems increasingly like some surreal science fiction imagining of some bizarre future dystopia. And so, I say:
Consensual sex -- between any mature adult male or female etc. -- is a human good. It is something that should be prized and promoted (would there be world peace if people just had more and better sex, ha?).

But instead I think unduly-moralistic scolds end up actively diminishing human flourishing by their sex-negativity.

And I curse the unholy alliance of the quack far-left so-called feminists: a different kind of ardent feminist than I am -- and the authoritarian anti-sex rightist religionists whom I used to run with decades ago. (How the heck is it that these two equal opposites agree on so very much these days, and the two last decades, too?).

I have a disturbing answer, but it doesn't work for a social networking or FB comment..
http://i.imgur.com/Dm3FCWP.jpg


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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Skep tickle wrote:Oh, arrrrgh some more, I just really read the last bit of nil's last comment on the first exchange above:
...Anyway, that's neither here nor there concerning the 'couldn't say no' situation you are addressing. If you’re getting some personal attention from a celebrity – someone you really admire for multiple good reasons – and they’re subtly refilling your glass, do you really need to think “I need to avoid being drunk raped” is on your mind?
Skep tickle ... please stop now ... I am dieing here. Ahahahaha. Ahaha. Ahhhhhhh!

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Biohazard wrote:Posted by D. J. Grothe on FB about 30min. ago [ https://www.facebook.com/djgrothe ]:
There is an impressive distemper these days on the internets.

Many smart, good people that I know personally seem to fear this "call-out culture" online that is going on right now in many communities online. Folks are immobilized by a moral scare or panic that they think they are watching unfold presently. As for me, I think it all seems increasingly like some surreal science fiction imagining of some bizarre future dystopia. And so, I say:
Consensual sex -- between any mature adult male or female etc. -- is a human good. It is something that should be prized and promoted (would there be world peace if people just had more and better sex, ha?).

But instead I think unduly-moralistic scolds end up actively diminishing human flourishing by their sex-negativity.

And I curse the unholy alliance of the quack far-left so-called feminists: a different kind of ardent feminist than I am -- and the authoritarian anti-sex rightist religionists whom I used to run with decades ago. (How the heck is it that these two equal opposites agree on so very much these days, and the two last decades, too?).

I have a disturbing answer, but it doesn't work for a social networking or FB comment..
Wow. That was refreshing to read. Might it be - and I might well be too optimistic here - that Myers, FTB and allies have finally overextended themselves to such an extent that their threat is greatly diminished? And that respected people who have mostly tried to remain above it all for one reason or another will now call a spade a spade? (Or a screwdriver a hammer.)

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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clownshoe wrote:
Guest wrote:Peez is setting up a new group of followers to fleece.

http://www.paradigmsymposium.com/
"As featured on Ancient Aliens"

He didn't just divorce skepticism (to quote Pitchguest) he went full Setar.

[youtube]4K6HjvwNTt0[/youtube]
The rise and fall of PZ in 2 minutes, nice.
I like the sad, haunting music in the background.
".. so he spent his days tilting at Patriarchy.."

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