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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:24 pm
by Zenspace
Lsuoma wrote:Threat, goddammit!
:lol:

I'll skip the Freudian implications this time.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:26 pm
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
cunt wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
cunt wrote:Nah, I joked about posting tits. Eucliwood joked about posting dicks. For some reason people took her request seriously.

Sorry Eucli. If you're lurking, I hope this helps.

[youtube]-3S3eK0B_LU[/youtube]
Are you legally underage, Cunt?
I'm nearly 30.
Young one! (just kidding, I'm freshly 35). But there are laws that make underage solicitations and subsequent providings by legal-aged third parties of pornographic pictures a liability. Add to this that the underage person threatens legal actions on the main board, and...well... do I need to call my lawyer now? (better call Saul!)

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:26 pm
by bhoytony
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Are you legally underage, Cunt?
He's already told us he's pissed, so I imagine that's why he's posting rubbish like that and also why he's going on and on about something that lsuoma has already said isn't going to change.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:28 pm
by cunt
Very pissed.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:29 pm
by Lsuoma
cunt wrote:Very pissed.
It's past midnight on Saturday. cunt is SURELY off his tits.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:31 pm
by decius
Lsuoma wrote: Well, you were the one she threatened directly.
The public threat had instantly undermined her credibility on that front, so it didn't worry me. However, a situation involving a minor soliciting private correspondence and explicit pictures cannot be ignored.

Your concern is much appreciated, though.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:36 pm
by Lsuoma
decius wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: Well, you were the one she threatened directly.
The public threat had instantly undermined her credibility on that front, so it didn't worry me. However, a situation involving a minor soliciting private correspondence and explicit pictures cannot be ignored.

Your concern is much appreciated, though.
I thought you were going to say my concern is noted :-)

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:40 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Lsuoma wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
If memory serves (sometimes it does, sometimes not so much) the slash/fic begat a lot of cross talk with EU at the center. That wasn't what led to the ban, however. Somewhere in the mix, EU explicitly solicited photos of penises from the membership. That pulled everything to a grinding halt, the ban followed and for good reason. The ban was initially temporary while Lsuoma studied his options. In the course of that break, Lsuoma discovered EU posting in another forum in such a way that it convinced him that the potential legal exposure was real and present. Discussion with his lawywr SiL(?) confirmed his concerns and the ban was made permanent.

That my recollection, anyway. Lsuoma, does that ring any bells?
Sounds like what I recall, yes.
Yep. Her admission of being a minor and the threat to call the feds on Decius combined with her interactions elsewhere with a self-confessed paedophile led my SiL to advise me to ban her immediately and permanently.
The ban was a good idea; she attempted to solicit someone to break the law, itself illegal with the dick pic request. I would think that knowingly publishing someone's illegal request could be illegal. That and the threat would seal a permanent ban for me.
Also, I really enjoyed the podcast you did with Reap.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:54 pm
by AndrewV69
Lsuoma wrote:
cunt wrote:Very pissed.
It's past midnight on Saturday. cunt is SURELY off his tits.
You mean he is tits up?

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:58 pm
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
What Cystitis?

Off to bed. Good night Pitters!

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:04 pm
by Lsuoma
AndrewV69 wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
cunt wrote:Very pissed.
It's past midnight on Saturday. cunt is SURELY off his tits.
You mean he is tits up?
One hopes not: being tits up is rather more permanent...

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:05 pm
by Lsuoma
free thoughtpolice wrote: Also, I really enjoyed the podcast you did with Reap.
Thanks, so did I.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:26 pm
by decius
Yeah, really good show, both of you.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:27 pm
by decius

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:48 pm
by comslave
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
cunt wrote:Nah, I joked about posting tits. Eucliwood joked about posting dicks. For some reason people took her request seriously.

Sorry Eucli. If you're lurking, I hope this helps.

[youtube]-3S3eK0B_LU[/youtube]
Are you legally underage, Cunt?
Disney films have changed since I last saw one.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:48 pm
by Submariner
This may be my cynical old ass (that was for you Rocko) but OB thrice says "... making it worse" and then Felix (no idea who that is) says, "Your dialog IS the attacks."

How can the "rift" ever be healed if dialog "makes it worse" and "is the attacks"?

IMO it means they don't want the "rift" healed for the same reason RW attacks reddit. The money dries up if the victim narrative goes away.

Like I said, I'm cynical and old.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:55 pm
by lonesagi
Mzone wrote:I just watched this video and it floored me that it advocates something that many would think is crazy, but once he shows it to you, makes so much sense it hurts. Take the twenty minutes to watch this TED talk (if you haven't done so already), you will be glad you did.

[youtube]vpTHi7O66pI[/youtube]

Mzone
This is a very interesting TED Talk. The before and after photos are simply incredible.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:56 pm
by decius
Submariner wrote:
This may be my cynical old ass (that was for you Rocko) but OB thrice says "... making it worse" and then Felix (no idea who that is) says, "Your dialog IS the attacks."

How can the "rift" ever be healed if dialog "makes it worse" and "is the attacks"?

IMO it means they don't want the "rift" healed for the same reason RW attacks reddit. The money dries up if the victim narrative goes away.

Like I said, I'm cynical and old.
Agreed. I don't believe that she is depressed, either. Even if she was, her behaviour is no less appalling than before.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:03 pm
by jimthepleb
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Steersman wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:BTW, I use the word "dick" as freely as I would "bitch", "asshole", and many other "gendered" slang words. I don't give a fuck, to be honest :D
Good for you lady.

Although maybe I should be more circumspect about using the word as Ophelia gets her knickers in a twist when I use it, particularly in “methinks the ladies [la de da] doth protest too much” – which seems to have more and more relevance these days ....
Swearwords, like Marmite, are not necessary. But they are a nice addition when you want to get more flavor...
'Marmite' is not a swearword... Now 'Belgium'...that's truly offensive

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:10 pm
by Lsuoma
jimthepleb wrote: 'Marmite' is not a swearword... Now 'Belgium'...that's truly offensive
What about driving up the Marmite motorway?

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:16 pm
by katamari Damassi
bhoytony wrote:
Jack wrote:From Grimalkin:

'Medicine takes the right science and the right emotional treatment to actually work.'

Complete and utter rubbish.
It's true, the antibiotics I took for the gonorrhea wouldn't work unless I got some hugs.
Wow it really is all about their precious feelings isn't it? They think that because their pain is significant to them then it is somehow significant to the rest of the universe.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:16 pm
by katamari Damassi
bhoytony wrote:
Jack wrote:From Grimalkin:

'Medicine takes the right science and the right emotional treatment to actually work.'

Complete and utter rubbish.
It's true, the antibiotics I took for the gonorrhea wouldn't work unless I got some hugs.
Wow it really is all about their precious feelings isn't it? They think that because their pain is significant to them then it is somehow significant to the rest of the universe.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:26 pm
by jimthepleb
Lsuoma wrote:
jimthepleb wrote: 'Marmite' is not a swearword... Now 'Belgium'...that's truly offensive
What about driving up the Marmite motorway?
Nasty but still not offensive, the Bovril Bypass on the other hand...

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:26 pm
by Mr Danksworth

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:27 pm
by AndrewV69
agarybuseychristmas wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:
agarybuseychristmas wrote:It comes, largely, from projection of stereotypical and largely relevant feminine mindsets onto men. I'm trying to handle with the kiddiest gloves possible, but by and large, we do in fact live in a culture where girls and women are taught they are deserving of a rich, successful man, and that anything but is undesirable. There was a video on some morning show or talk show that showed that girls from the age of 6 view any type of future boyfriend or husband being poor as a huge deal breaker.

Now, there are certainly men and boys who think they are 'entitled' to a girlfriend or SO because of whatever quality they think they may have that is the silver bullet to getting one, but this is far removed from feeling entitled to having women as your fuck toys.
This is a common manosphere trope, but because I am feeling bitchy right now I am going to ask for a citation.

Citation needed mutherphucker! Otherwise *flooops* yer opinion is dismissed!!!

/NerdOfRedHaid
Hah, I wasn't aware, but:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/1 ... 79760.html
I read it and yep nothing new at all. Plenty of references within the manosphere to the themes noted and the studies referenced already.

Basically, those who just want to fuck find each other and fuck. What a surprise! Who woulda thunk it?

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/228878.php
However, there was a catch: Although women found the flashy guys more desirable for a date, the man with the Porsche was not preferred as a marriage partner. Women inferred from a man's flashy spending that he was interested in uncommitted sex.
Peacocks, Porsches and Thorstein Veblen: Conspicuous Consumption as a Sexual Signaling System,"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21038972
Overall, these findings suggest that flaunting status-linked goods to potential mates is not simply about displaying economic resources. Instead, conspicuous consumption appears to be part of a more precise signaling system focused on short-term mating. These findings contribute to an emerging literature on human life-history strategies.
Which is one reason why I giggle at the slut walk protests. Because none of them are going to get the "man" they "deserve".

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:32 pm
by jimthepleb
AndrewV69 wrote:
agarybuseychristmas wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:
agarybuseychristmas wrote:It comes, largely, from projection of stereotypical and largely relevant feminine mindsets onto men. I'm trying to handle with the kiddiest gloves possible, but by and large, we do in fact live in a culture where girls and women are taught they are deserving of a rich, successful man, and that anything but is undesirable. There was a video on some morning show or talk show that showed that girls from the age of 6 view any type of future boyfriend or husband being poor as a huge deal breaker.

Now, there are certainly men and boys who think they are 'entitled' to a girlfriend or SO because of whatever quality they think they may have that is the silver bullet to getting one, but this is far removed from feeling entitled to having women as your fuck toys.
This is a common manosphere trope, but because I am feeling bitchy right now I am going to ask for a citation.

Citation needed mutherphucker! Otherwise *flooops* yer opinion is dismissed!!!

/NerdOfRedHaid
Hah, I wasn't aware, but:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/1 ... 79760.html
I read it and yep nothing new at all. Plenty of references within the manosphere to the themes noted and the studies referenced already.

Basically, those who just want to fuck find each other and fuck. What a surprise! Who woulda thunk it?

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/228878.php
However, there was a catch: Although women found the flashy guys more desirable for a date, the man with the Porsche was not preferred as a marriage partner. Women inferred from a man's flashy spending that he was interested in uncommitted sex.
Peacocks, Porsches and Thorstein Veblen: Conspicuous Consumption as a Sexual Signaling System,"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21038972
Overall, these findings suggest that flaunting status-linked goods to potential mates is not simply about displaying economic resources. Instead, conspicuous consumption appears to be part of a more precise signaling system focused on short-term mating. These findings contribute to an emerging literature on human life-history strategies.
Which is one reason why I giggle at the slut walk protests. Because none of them are going to get the "man" they "deserve".
IMO they are very likely to get EXACTLY the man they deserve, because only a lying sack of shit could possibly 'fulfil' their requirements. There is not enough self-loathing in the entire worldwide population to make the men they want.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:32 pm
by Aneris
katamari Damassi wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Jack wrote:From Grimalkin:

'Medicine takes the right science and the right emotional treatment to actually work.'

Complete and utter rubbish.
It's true, the antibiotics I took for the gonorrhea wouldn't work unless I got some hugs.
Wow it really is all about their precious feelings isn't it? They think that because their pain is significant to them then it is somehow significant to the rest of the universe.
Sounds like narcissism or NPD.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:34 pm
by katamari Damassi
lonesagi wrote:
Mzone wrote:I just watched this video and it floored me that it advocates something that many would think is crazy, but once he shows it to you, makes so much sense it hurts. Take the twenty minutes to watch this TED talk (if you haven't done so already), you will be glad you did.

[youtube]vpTHi7O66pI[/youtube]

Mzone
This is a very interesting TED Talk. The before and after photos are simply incredible.
Militant vegetarians are going to hate this guy. Poorly understood environmentalism is often one of their evangelizing methods.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:35 pm
by Zenspace
Nice! Yeah, that works. :o

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:36 pm
by tina
Eucliwoo.jpg
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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:41 pm
by decius
tina wrote:
Eucliwoo.jpg

LOL

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:50 pm
by jimthepleb
more registered users than guests...been a while

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:51 pm
by Apples
Rereading the Ophie/Josh/et al tweets to Nugent and recalling the threads ... it occurs to me that what they were complaining about, and what Ophie was claiming was "destroying her," was really simply the fact that he was allowing a dialogue including the Pit Crew without moderation or banning. If you read those tweets without reading the threads, you'd think people were spewing invective at Ophie and calling her a cunt, etc. (and "lying about her" -- I believe she tweeted that), but Ophie was in fact rarely mentioned at all, if I recall correctly.

They are simply furious that, having told us to stay the fuck away from their blogs and banning many of us, anyone with a public profile would allow the unbelievable truth to be revealed -- that people here have relevant points to make and citations to back them up, and are generally thoughtful, reasonable, and worst of all, numerous.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:55 pm
by Mzone
katamari Damassi wrote:
lonesagi wrote:
Mzone wrote:I just watched this video and it floored me that it advocates something that many would think is crazy, but once he shows it to you, makes so much sense it hurts. Take the twenty minutes to watch this TED talk (if you haven't done so already), you will be glad you did.

Snip...

Mzone
This is a very interesting TED Talk. The before and after photos are simply incredible.
Militant vegetarians are going to hate this guy. Poorly understood environmentalism is often one of their evangelizing methods.
Yes, PETA and vegetarians are going to bust a gasket learning you need herd animals to save large portions of desertified land. The eco warriors are going to trash this guy. I am sure FTB is on it already.

Mzone

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:57 pm
by Zenspace
Apples wrote:Rereading the Ophie/Josh/et al tweets to Nugent and recalling the threads ... it occurs to me that what they were complaining about, and what Ophie was claiming was "destroying her," was really simply the fact that he was allowing a dialogue including the Pit Crew without moderation or banning. If you read those tweets without reading the threads, you'd think people were spewing invective at Ophie and calling her a cunt, etc. (and "lying about her" -- I believe she tweeted that), but Ophie was in fact rarely mentioned at all, if I recall correctly.

They are simply furious that, having told us to stay the fuck away from their blogs and banning many of us, anyone with a public profile would allow the unbelievable truth to be revealed -- that people here have relevant points to make and citations to back them up, and are generally thoughtful, reasonable, and worst of all, numerous.
Exactly. Further, as usual, when outside their controlled environment, their arguments and claims are generally found to be wanting. Nugent clearly got much, much more than he had bargained for, likely based on the propaganda his FtB friends have been feeding him. It really was a good show. :clap:

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:59 pm
by ianfc
Briefly delurking to say gday to yous cunts.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:02 pm
by Submariner
ianfc wrote:Briefly delurking to say gday to yous cunts.

Welcome. Fuck off.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:03 pm
by Apples
ianfc wrote:Briefly delurking to say gday to yous cunts.
Howdy and fuck off.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:06 pm
by Lurkion
http://www.4thwavefeminism.blogspot.com.au

I'm just going to leave my rubbish here.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:07 pm
by Lurkion
Gumby wrote:
jimthepleb wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:Eucliwood/Steersman romance in the offing? Maybe we could televise the Pit's first wedding?
Jesus Christ imagine the speeches!
An incredibly advanced computer simulation of Eucli and Steersman's upcoming nuptials:

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... 979f40.jpg
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:08 pm
by Apples
I just need to say that Oolon and Aratina Cage are such incredible dishonest cunts that even glancing at their Twitter feeds raises my blood pressure. Actually, you basically only have to look at one of their feeds given that they are joined at the hip and in unceasing conversation. Josh and Ophie are another cute Twitter couple.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:09 pm
by lonesagi
Mzone wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:
lonesagi wrote:
Mzone wrote:I just watched this video and it floored me that it advocates something that many would think is crazy, but once he shows it to you, makes so much sense it hurts. Take the twenty minutes to watch this TED talk (if you haven't done so already), you will be glad you did.

Snip...

Mzone
This is a very interesting TED Talk. The before and after photos are simply incredible.
Militant vegetarians are going to hate this guy. Poorly understood environmentalism is often one of their evangelizing methods.
Yes, PETA and vegetarians are going to bust a gasket learning you need herd animals to save large portions of desertified land. The eco warriors are going to trash this guy. I am sure FTB is on it already.

Mzone
/Steersman on

I'm hesitant to endorse this particular approach without a proper scientific review (which, based on a cursory Googling I've been unable to find). That being said, the "proof is in the pudding" so to speak, and his testimonial and pictorial evidence are both compelling. It would be unfortunate if this were pure "snake oil", as many of the underlying principles seem to make sense on an intuitive level.

/Steersman off

It would be really, really fucking awesome if this really could be adapted to world wide use though. I'd so like to buy into the idea.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:12 pm
by jimthepleb
ianfc wrote:Briefly delurking to say gday to yous cunts.
Hi, fuck off!
http://www.aussieinfrance.com/wp-conten ... _horns.jpg

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:14 pm
by jimthepleb
arse lets try again....
Hi, fuck off!
*picture of dead stuff in a basket*

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:16 pm
by lonesagi
ianfc wrote:Briefly delurking to say gday to yous cunts.
Welcome! Fuck off!

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:19 pm
by JAB
Zenspace wrote:
Apples wrote:Rereading the Ophie/Josh/et al tweets to Nugent and recalling the threads ... it occurs to me that what they were complaining about, and what Ophie was claiming was "destroying her," was really simply the fact that he was allowing a dialogue including the Pit Crew without moderation or banning. If you read those tweets without reading the threads, you'd think people were spewing invective at Ophie and calling her a cunt, etc. (and "lying about her" -- I believe she tweeted that), but Ophie was in fact rarely mentioned at all, if I recall correctly.

They are simply furious that, having told us to stay the fuck away from their blogs and banning many of us, anyone with a public profile would allow the unbelievable truth to be revealed -- that people here have relevant points to make and citations to back them up, and are generally thoughtful, reasonable, and worst of all, numerous.
Exactly. Further, as usual, when outside their controlled environment, their arguments and claims are generally found to be wanting. Nugent clearly got much, much more than he had bargained for, likely based on the propaganda his FtB friends have been feeding him. It really was a good show. :clap:
Or on a more basic level... we have transgressed and therefore must be shunned. By his failure to shun us he has hurt the powers that be and has upset all that follow those powers. What are they supposed to think of him now? They are so confused and it's all his fault!

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:28 pm
by agarybuseychristmas
rocko2466 wrote:http://www.4thwavefeminism.blogspot.com.au

I'm just going to leave my rubbish here.
Give me a bit (like a day, I'm going out to a nightclub to celebrate my fiancee's friend's 30th) and I'll debate you, because I agree and disagree with points you make. Perhaps we could have *gasp* A LEVEL HEADED DISCUSSION that has never before been seen on both sides of the debate.

DUN DUN DUN.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:28 pm
by John Brown
Apples wrote:I just need to say that Oolon and Aratina Cage are such incredible dishonest cunts that even glancing at their Twitter feeds raises my blood pressure. Actually, you basically only have to look at one of their feeds given that they are joined at the hip and in unceasing conversation. Josh and Ophie are another cute Twitter couple.
No need to get your blood pressure up. Those two are hilarious.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:33 pm
by Mzone
lonesagi wrote:
Mzone wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:
lonesagi wrote:
Mzone wrote:I just watched this video and it floored me that it advocates something that many would think is crazy, but once he shows it to you, makes so much sense it hurts. Take the twenty minutes to watch this TED talk (if you haven't done so already), you will be glad you did.

Snip...

Mzone
This is a very interesting TED Talk. The before and after photos are simply incredible.
Militant vegetarians are going to hate this guy. Poorly understood environmentalism is often one of their evangelizing methods.
Yes, PETA and vegetarians are going to bust a gasket learning you need herd animals to save large portions of desertified land. The eco warriors are going to trash this guy. I am sure FTB is on it already.

Mzone
/Steersman on

I'm hesitant to endorse this particular approach without a proper scientific review (which, based on a cursory Googling I've been unable to find). That being said, the "proof is in the pudding" so to speak, and his testimonial and pictorial evidence are both compelling. It would be unfortunate if this were pure "snake oil", as many of the underlying principles seem to make sense on an intuitive level.

/Steersman off

It would be really, really fucking awesome if this really could be adapted to world wide use though. I'd so like to buy into the idea.
First off, there is insufficient livestock to do this on the 50% of the 95% he is suggesting. This will have to be a gradual initiative as you grow the herds. During that time you can monitor the results and make adjustments both in quantity of animals and grazing patterns. The biggest hurdle to overcome is the "Cattle/Beef is Bad" both for you and for the environment meme. What is the worst case? It doesn't work and desertification continues.

This is the first initiative, that I have seen, that has hope of making real impact on the lives of people in the poorer parts of the world. Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors for cheap clean energy and this initiative to slow/prevent desertification, provide food, and a realizable carbon capture strategy. Carbon Tax and transfers will do nothing except make the US economy worse off than it already is. (This is my opinion and subject to change).

Mzone

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:42 pm
by free thoughtpolice
[quote="tina"]
Eucliwoo.jpg
[/quote\]

Let's clear this up right now! Eu is no Rystefn's love cild!

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:45 pm
by Gumby
Apples wrote:Rereading the Ophie/Josh/et al tweets to Nugent and recalling the threads ... it occurs to me that what they were complaining about, and what Ophie was claiming was "destroying her," was really simply the fact that he was allowing a dialogue including the Pit Crew without moderation or banning. If you read those tweets without reading the threads, you'd think people were spewing invective at Ophie and calling her a cunt, etc. (and "lying about her" -- I believe she tweeted that), but Ophie was in fact rarely mentioned at all, if I recall correctly.

They are simply furious that, having told us to stay the fuck away from their blogs and banning many of us, anyone with a public profile would allow the unbelievable truth to be revealed -- that people here have relevant points to make and citations to back them up, and are generally thoughtful, reasonable, and worst of all, numerous.

Exactly. They don't want us to be heard at all, and try to keep us confined to the Pit. They are now in a tizzy because we weren't silenced by someone they would normally consider an ally. Outraged because we weren't censored. And they're especially pissed off because people from the Pit went on Nugent's blog and spectacularly demonstrated that those people are as vicious and nasty as they accuse us of being.

Expect Ophelia Benson to start spewing out blog posts attacking Nugent the way she attacked (and continues to attack) Shermer when he didn't kiss FtB ass. They are small people and are completely predictable.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:46 pm
by windy
JAB wrote: Or on a more basic level... we have transgressed and therefore must be shunned. By his failure to shun us he has hurt the powers that be and has upset all that follow those powers. What are they supposed to think of him now? They are so confused and it's all his fault!
Sounds like you need to open your eyes!!!

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:46 pm
by Gumby
free thoughtpolice wrote:
tina wrote:
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Let's clear this up right now! Eu is no Rystefn's love cild!
Rystefn can't have a love child, because he uses a screwdriver in place of his penis (which he uses to hammer nails).

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:46 pm
by lonesagi
Mzone wrote:
lonesagi wrote:
Mzone wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote: Militant vegetarians are going to hate this guy. Poorly understood environmentalism is often one of their evangelizing methods.
Yes, PETA and vegetarians are going to bust a gasket learning you need herd animals to save large portions of desertified land. The eco warriors are going to trash this guy. I am sure FTB is on it already.

Mzone
/Steersman on

I'm hesitant to endorse this particular approach without a proper scientific review (which, based on a cursory Googling I've been unable to find). That being said, the "proof is in the pudding" so to speak, and his testimonial and pictorial evidence are both compelling. It would be unfortunate if this were pure "snake oil", as many of the underlying principles seem to make sense on an intuitive level.

/Steersman off

It would be really, really fucking awesome if this really could be adapted to world wide use though. I'd so like to buy into the idea.
First off, there is insufficient livestock to do this on the 50% of the 95% he is suggesting. This will have to be a gradual initiative as you grow the herds. During that time you can monitor the results and make adjustments both in quantity of animals and grazing patterns. The biggest hurdle to overcome is the "Cattle/Beef is Bad" both for you and for the environment meme. What is the worst case? It doesn't work and desertification continues.

This is the first initiative, that I have seen, that has hope of making real impact on the lives of people in the poorer parts of the world. Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors for cheap clean energy and this initiative to slow/prevent desertification, provide food, and a realizable carbon capture strategy. Carbon Tax and transfers will do nothing except make the US economy worse off than it already is. (This is my opinion and subject to change).

Mzone
I completely agree (assuming he isn't making things up and cherry picking his data points). Some of the rebuttals I read indicated that his approach would be unsuitable for large areas of NA, however, as they haven't seen migratory mega-herds since the ice ages, and the plants that grow there now are not adapted to this form of growth cycle. Can the plants be replaced without causing undue damage? I've no idea, I'm an idiot!

This really reminds me of the Dyson essay on being a heretic though. He brought up growing the topsoil as a solution to climate change, and this seems to provide a method of doing that. I'd really, really like to believe that we can find solutions to these global problems that will simultaneously increase the quality of life for most people.

Video link for the non readers:

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:50 pm
by Lurkion
Yo, anyone heard from Mykeru lately? He's not done anything that I can see since 25.02.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:52 pm
by ConcentratedH2O, OM
What happened to Meyers's "Why I am an atheist" feature? Seems to have gone the same way as Becky Whatnot's "Thursday Bad Graph".

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:57 pm
by Lurkion
Submariner wrote:
This may be my cynical old ass (that was for you Rocko) but OB thrice says "... making it worse" and then Felix (no idea who that is) says, "Your dialog IS the attacks."

How can the "rift" ever be healed if dialog "makes it worse" and "is the attacks"?

IMO it means they don't want the "rift" healed for the same reason RW attacks reddit. The money dries up if the victim narrative goes away.

Like I said, I'm cynical and old.
An old man is right twice a day. Or is that a broken clock?

In any event, WHAT THE FUCK. Surely Nugent saw that and went "Hang on a sec, maybe the Slymepitters aren't the crazy ones". FFS - dialog is the attack? Wtf.

DIALOGUE IS HARASSMENT TO THIS RIDICULOUS WOMAN.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:59 pm
by Lurkion
agarybuseychristmas wrote:
rocko2466 wrote:http://www.4thwavefeminism.blogspot.com.au

I'm just going to leave my rubbish here.
Give me a bit (like a day, I'm going out to a nightclub to celebrate my fiancee's friend's 30th) and I'll debate you, because I agree and disagree with points you make. Perhaps we could have *gasp* A LEVEL HEADED DISCUSSION that has never before been seen on both sides of the debate.

DUN DUN DUN.
That's not my blog. That blog is ass-stupid.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:59 pm
by Lurkion
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:What happened to Meyers's "Why I am an atheist" feature? Seems to have gone the same way as Becky Whatnot's "Thursday Bad Graph".
He doesn't care about atheism.

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:03 pm
by Submariner
rocko2466 wrote:Yo, anyone heard from Mykeru lately? He's not done anything that I can see since 25.02.
I'm subscribed to his youtube channel. He's been following the Jodi Arias trial and commenting on it on youtube as recently as yesterday.