erikthebassist wrote:
run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
(damn edit button!)Dick Strawkins wrote:erikthebassist wrote:
run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
http://i.imgur.com/Npp3skY.jpg
OK, :roll:
Now what? :think:
I wrote "objectively". Get off the bass and get a grip on science and statistics.erikthebassist wrote:run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:Eskarina wrote:I'd be really interested in how you have come to that conclusion. How do you objectively rate "notoriety" in one area against "admiration" in another unrelated one? Methods, please.erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
I'm Scottish and fiercely proud of the fact.bhoytony wrote:Is this aimed at me? I think you may be mistaking what jimthepleb means when he refers to me as a Jock. Over here it doesn't mean the same thing as it does on the other side of the pond. He means I am a sweaty sock, a porridge wog, a native of Alba.
9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.Bhurzum wrote:I'm Scottish and fiercely proud of the fact.bhoytony wrote:Is this aimed at me? I think you may be mistaking what jimthepleb means when he refers to me as a Jock. Over here it doesn't mean the same thing as it does on the other side of the pond. He means I am a sweaty sock, a porridge wog, a native of Alba.
1) I'm as tight as a mermaids arsehole
2) I've got "mad" ginger hair
3) I'm an alcoholic (when I'm not "oot mah tits" on heroin)
4) I'm racist (English cunts are solely responsible for everything/anything that's wrong with Scotland)
5) I'm unemployed
6) I beat the fuck out of my wife
7) The slightest glimpse of the Union flag makes my blood ache
8) My only source of income is petty crime
Hmmm...did I miss anything?
http://www.computescotland.com/images/2 ... 0cu09u.jpg
MON THE JOCKS!
Note: Not to be taken *too* seriously.
All I need to know is, do you favour salt 'n' sauce or are you normal?Bhurzum wrote:I'm Scottish and fiercely proud of the fact.bhoytony wrote:Is this aimed at me? I think you may be mistaking what jimthepleb means when he refers to me as a Jock. Over here it doesn't mean the same thing as it does on the other side of the pond. He means I am a sweaty sock, a porridge wog, a native of Alba.
1) I'm as tight as a mermaids arsehole
2) I've got "mad" ginger hair
3) I'm an alcoholic (when I'm not "oot mah tits" on heroin)
4) I'm racist (English cunts are solely responsible for everything/anything that's wrong with Scotland)
5) I'm unemployed
6) I beat the fuck out of my wife
7) The slightest glimpse of the Union flag makes my blood ache
8) My only source of income is petty crime
Hmmm...did I miss anything?
http://www.computescotland.com/images/2 ... 0cu09u.jpg
MON THE JOCKS!
Note: Not to be taken *too* seriously.
I eat haggis, but I've never even seen a deep-fried Mars Bar.Eskarina wrote: 9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.
http://i.imgur.com/z0jj62b.jpgbhoytony wrote:All I need to know is, do you favour salt 'n' sauce or are you normal?Bhurzum wrote:I'm Scottish and fiercely proud of the fact.bhoytony wrote:Is this aimed at me? I think you may be mistaking what jimthepleb means when he refers to me as a Jock. Over here it doesn't mean the same thing as it does on the other side of the pond. He means I am a sweaty sock, a porridge wog, a native of Alba.
1) I'm as tight as a mermaids arsehole
2) I've got "mad" ginger hair
3) I'm an alcoholic (when I'm not "oot mah tits" on heroin)
4) I'm racist (English cunts are solely responsible for everything/anything that's wrong with Scotland)
5) I'm unemployed
6) I beat the fuck out of my wife
7) The slightest glimpse of the Union flag makes my blood ache
8) My only source of income is petty crime
Hmmm...did I miss anything?
http://www.computescotland.com/images/2 ... 0cu09u.jpg
MON THE JOCKS!
Note: Not to be taken *too* seriously.
The worms don't care about skepticism. They just like to bathe in the warm flood of shit cascading from their masters' assholes.Eskarina wrote:I wrote "objectively". Get off the bass and get a grip on science and statistics.erikthebassist wrote:run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:Eskarina wrote:I'd be really interested in how you have come to that conclusion. How do you objectively rate "notoriety" in one area against "admiration" in another unrelated one? Methods, please.erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
That is, if you want to be a sceptic. :doh:
Bhoytony's right, there. You don't want to make an enemy out of me by criticising Haggis. I heat that stuff at breakfast, lunch and dinner when available.bhoytony wrote:I eat haggis, but I've never even seen a deep-fried Mars Bar.Eskarina wrote: 9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.
(for god's sake don't ask Phil about the haggis)
Are we still doing the bassist jokes?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Hooray!!! Erik is the second poster to make it to my ignore list. Because a) he's a dick, and b) he's a bassist! (redundant?)
I really think we need to do something about the meshugenah and bassism in the a/s community.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Hooray!!! Erik is the second poster to make it to my ignore list. Because a) he's a dick, and b) he's a bassist! (redundant?)
It's not the eating it that I was referring to.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Bhoytony's right, there. You don't want to make an enemy out of me by criticising Haggis. I heat that stuff at breakfast, lunch and dinner when available.bhoytony wrote:I eat haggis, but I've never even seen a deep-fried Mars Bar.Eskarina wrote: 9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.
(for god's sake don't ask Phil about the haggis)
The biggest issue I had with my female Elf character in WOW (stopped playing 3 years ago) was I could not find suitable "fuck me" shoes for her to wear with her non-combat outfits.skepandsprinkles wrote:I stopped playing in December and even with the transmutation it was still pretty hard for those of us on RP servers who did actually RP. I remember spending hours looking for a robe/hood combo that looked like it could be one continuous piece and failing because all the robes that were the right colors showed tits.Karmakin wrote:
I agree. Actually, I think WoW (and other MMO's) found the best solution to the clothing problem, via Transmutation type systems, where people could find the outfit that they WANTED to wear and use that independently of the stats, and it became a thing of personal expression. Options are the solution here.
Who was the first?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Hooray!!! Erik is the second poster to make it to my ignore list. Because a) he's a dick, and b) he's a bassist! (redundant?)
Halp, halp, I'm being threatened and oppressed. :shock:Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Bhoytony's right, there. You don't want to make an enemy out of me by criticising Haggis. I heat that stuff at breakfast, lunch and dinner when available.bhoytony wrote:I eat haggis, but I've never even seen a deep-fried Mars Bar.Eskarina wrote: 9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.
(for god's sake don't ask Phil about the haggis)
DAMN YOU!Metalogic42 wrote:You must live in your parents' attic, then.welch wrote:LMAO. I live in FL. We don't have basements.Metalogic42 wrote:I think she means you, Welch. :PTwatson wrote:Now that the first video is out and it is, obviously, intelligent, well-researched, and sensible, you can expect misogynist gamers’ heads to explode in parents’ basements the world over.
I play LOTRO now and all of the characters wear long underwear;(((AndrewV69 wrote:The biggest issue I had with my female Elf character in WOW (stopped playing 3 years ago) was I could not find suitable "fuck me" shoes for her to wear with her non-combat outfits.skepandsprinkles wrote:I stopped playing in December and even with the transmutation it was still pretty hard for those of us on RP servers who did actually RP. I remember spending hours looking for a robe/hood combo that looked like it could be one continuous piece and failing because all the robes that were the right colors showed tits.Karmakin wrote:
I agree. Actually, I think WoW (and other MMO's) found the best solution to the clothing problem, via Transmutation type systems, where people could find the outfit that they WANTED to wear and use that independently of the stats, and it became a thing of personal expression. Options are the solution here.
(You do know that one definition of an MMORPG is Many Men Online Role Playing Girls ... right?)
Not that did not stop me from having hissy fits like a proper feminist at the female elves dancing in their undies on top of the mailbox at Ironforge for money.
But that was a long time ago. I play EQ2 these days, and my female characters tend to wear armour appropriate for their role like my Inquisitor (plate) vs my Fury (leather).
Speaking of which I have not played in a week.
All this A/S drama has been pretty compelling, and just keeping up with the Slymepit could very easily become a full time job, so I either toss EQ2 or my volunteer work.
Fuck ... not enough hours in the day to devote to so many 1st. world problems.
Fish supper (salt and vinegar, none of your "sot'n'sauce" pish thank you very much!)bhoytony wrote:All I need to know is, do you favour salt 'n' sauce or are you normal?
No shit. For that much money, show me some actual research. Give me some historical context, ANYTHING other than this regurgitation with screenshots shit.Apples wrote:So looks like there are 12 videos slated? If they're ~20 mins each and she produces a total of only around 260 minutes for $160,000 ... this stuff will have cost her backers more than $500 a minute with an extremely late delivery. For that price, as 16bitheretic pointed out, I want some exotic locations, interviews with game-designers and others, something original -- not the same blue-screen background recycling-her-university-women's-studies-thesis talking-head format she's always done. We'll see. Dang - I wonder what Rocko could have done with $160,000 -- a full-on Slymepit rock-opera - he could have called it Les Ms-Magazine-erables.Welch wrote:What, you only have enough money for six 20 minute videos? It's the internet, all you need is drive space. I guess she had to work on her shitty opening graphics.
Me neither...bhoytony wrote:It's not the eating it that I was referring to.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Bhoytony's right, there. You don't want to make an enemy out of me by criticising Haggis. I heat that stuff at breakfast, lunch and dinner when available.bhoytony wrote:I eat haggis, but I've never even seen a deep-fried Mars Bar.Eskarina wrote: 9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.
(for god's sake don't ask Phil about the haggis)
I know, I know, I just can't give up the hope yet.Angry_Drunk wrote:The worms don't care about skepticism. They just like to bathe in the warm flood of shit cascading from their masters' assholes.Eskarina wrote:I wrote "objectively". Get off the bass and get a grip on science and statistics.erikthebassist wrote:run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:Eskarina wrote:I'd be really interested in how you have come to that conclusion. How do you objectively rate "notoriety" in one area against "admiration" in another unrelated one? Methods, please.erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
That is, if you want to be a sceptic. :doh:
I was in Thailand a few years ago and met an American couple on holiday. Over the course of a few drinks, the subject of haggis popped up in the conversation. It took me roughly 10 minutes to convince them both that Haggis is a wild animal (indigenous to Scotland) and that it's on the endangered species list. The actual haggis we eat is simply an attempt at recreating the taste of the real thing.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Me neither...bhoytony wrote:It's not the eating it that I was referring to.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Bhoytony's right, there. You don't want to make an enemy out of me by criticising Haggis. I heat that stuff at breakfast, lunch and dinner when available.bhoytony wrote:I eat haggis, but I've never even seen a deep-fried Mars Bar.Eskarina wrote: 9) You eat haggis and deep-fried Mars bars.
(for god's sake don't ask Phil about the haggis)
:rimshot:
You seem to have three fundamental misunderstanding.Pitchguest wrote:Now he did that with a shoe string budget. Imagine what kind of game Sarkeesian could have made with the money she got? She got more money than she anticipated and therefore was subject to delays. So, switch gears. If she had chosen to make her own game and incorporated the tropes she felt was sexist and subverted them, I would have fucking applauded that. It wouldn't even have had to be a technically advanced game, just your average indie game. But if she had, and if she inserted some humour into it to avoid preaching, I would probably have enjoyed it.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/a ... tackle.jpgPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:A bassist and his girlfriend go to a John Myung showcase. After the show, the girlfriend goes "I don't understand, he plays lots of notes very fast, and all you do is E E E." To which the bassist responds "Ah, but you see, he's still looking for the note. I found it!"
I wrote that somewhat poorly. Women have, from what I can tell, always been players of video games in solid numbers. When the atari 2600 first hit, as many of the girls I knew had one as boys. Nothing was *stopping* them at all, and nothing did stop them. The industry as a whole simply ignored them, or relegated them to casual games, games about barbies, etc.agarybuseychristmas wrote:This is somewhat too apologetic for my tastes, and is honestly the line that bugs me most about this entire thing.welch wrote: She also completely, completely ignores the fact that up until the last decade, maybe two, women gamers, as far as anyone could tell, didn't really exist in force. This was due to ignorance and programmer bias, at least mostly. Game designers were mostly male, and so wrote the games they wanted to play. The early financiers of video games were? Male. So you have an industry largely run by and for men.
What stopped women and girls from playing games in the 90s? The fact that there were no female protagonists? There was a time before 3D graphics and remotely developed video game plots. Where were all of them then? Because I remember the 90s, and the word gamer was synonymous with 'neckbeard loser with too much time on his hands'.
Even in early and mid 2000s, female gamers were rare, and your point is becoming more salient, but the industry had almost overwhelmingly a male audience. There were hundreds of games made that didn't involve looking at a protagonist/storied self insertion. Why weren't they playing these? When did this inclusion of women just become so much of an issue?
While I agree with some of your post (mostly the part about Pitchguest and making new games) my issue with AS is that she looks at sexist tropes from one direction only.Trophy wrote: You seem to have three fundamental misunderstanding.
First, you seem to think that her complaint is that "There are no non-sexism games." If that was the case, then yes, her problem could be solved by making one such game. But her point is that there exists a lot of sexism in video games. She does not say all video games are sexist. She even says that no every use of "Damsel in distress" is sexist. She also says that just because a game has a sexist element (in her opinion) that does hot mean that you should stop enjoying that game, just be aware of that aspect. So, seriously, tell me how her complaint could be solved by her making a game?
And two, you seem to think that people should obey your made up rules. You are making up a rule that if A) someone wants to talk about sexism and B) people hand her a load of money, then, she should stop talking and instead make video games. That's basically a rule you have just made up on the spot. And apparently it doesn't even matter if there is wide-spread sexism in games. Nope. If you have money, you can't talk about that, you just have to make a game. Yep, it sounds weird but that's just the kind of rule that Mr Pitchguest likes to make up.
And three, you seem to think that making games is easy and all it needs is $160K. That's fucking bullshit. That kind of money does not pay for programmers and the design artists and marketing that are the bare fucking minimum. Besides, to make a game you have to sink at least two years of your life, possibly more, without any gaurantees that it won't be a complete flop, because afterall, markets have also a big randomness. There are plenty of awesome kickass indi games that don't make a penny and nobody gives a shit about them.
That's a photo of a bassist attacking a guitarist.Metalogic42 wrote:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/a ... tackle.jpg
Because she makes the game out as Krystal being the only protagonist, and that's simply not true. She misrepresented the game. She also implies that sexism was the driving reason behind the change, but never even comes close to talking about the real reason. And in this case, fuck brevity. If you're going to make brevity the major requirement, you don't need to raise an assload of money and buy all the video games. That's what you do when you're promising *analysis*. This wasn't analysis, it was a fucking book report.EdwardGemmer wrote:@Welch
Who cares? There is something to be said for brevity, and here she is talking about a game involving a playable female hero that was never made. She left out the part that there was another male character? So? It was a game that was never made and her point was to show a game idea that started with a strong female character and ended with the same weak character that is shown over and over and over.First, the game is not about Krystal as Sarkeesian makes it out. The game is about Krystal and Sabre, a male character, and the protagonist at the game's start.
She failed, completely, to mention the external cultural influences behind that. For example, her bit about King Kong fails to mention most of that was really racism, not sexism at work, and the deep (and stupid) fears white people had about "unfettered negro sexual savagery". Again, she's pushing this as an *analysis*. That creates some expectation of completeness, not "Anita chats about video games". She is not just someone working at McDonald's who had a neat idea. This is someone with some expertise in the area, even using it for her master's thesis:EdwardGemmer wrote:It wasn't context-free at all. She expressly mentioned that the damsel in distress is has been a huge part of culture and literature for thousands of years and provided examples.She then goes into a context-free history of the damsel in distress
What I saw in that video? Crap. The screenshots took more time than the research.She earned a bachelor's degree in communication studies from California State University, Northridge and a master's degree in social and political thought from York University. Her master's thesis was titled I’ll Make a Man Out of You: Strong Women in Science Fiction and Fantasy Television.
Then don't pitch this as some kind of analysis of anything. Just call it a shallow look at women in video games, and refund people's fucking money. Or donate it to someone ACTUALLY ANALYZING THIS. Again, this is a video book report, and not a very good one.EdwardGemmer wrote:Sure, probably a reason the games have been the way they are. What is good about her videos is that she mostly presents facts and typically very few opinions. She was also clear that this criticism doesn't mean you are a sexist if you like videogames. It is what it is - facts about popular games and how they portray women. You may want her to do a history of game developers, but she has to limit her presentations somehow or else you get those 112 minute boring montrosities on Youtube that everyone likes to post.She also completely, completely ignores the fact that up until the last decade, maybe two, women gamers, as far as anyone could tell, didn't really exist in force. This was due to ignorance and programmer bias, at least mostly. Game designers were mostly male, and so wrote the games they wanted to play. The early financiers of video games were? Male. So you have an industry largely run by and for men.
[/quote]EdwardGemmer wrote:Maybe, but I'm willing to bet you know more about video games than most people. Instead of focusing on the arcane facts she ignored, I'm glad she focused on the ones that didn't portray a female as a DiD. It was interesting to see the Zelda examples where Zelda had an active role until they showed her as a feminie princess, where she became immediately helpless. Trying to frame the plot and explain everything would have been boring and taken forever and not been particularly relevant. She isn't cherrypicking.I spent 23 minutes to learn exactly nothing.
Nope.Git wrote:P.S. I know Vacula plays the stinking moustache-loving Alliance, I hope y'all are Horde?
erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.ElenaG wrote:Yeah Abbie! I mean it's not like you don't also try to find the cure to a disease instead of whining incessantly on a blog about how mean people are on the internet and it hurts your widdle feelings. You spend a majority of your time in a lab doing something worthwhile to humanity but Erik has it totally right. What you're best at is obsessing over a narcissistic, attention seeking feminist who absolutely doesn't obsess over others. It's not like you touched a nerve with Erik and he isn't crying rage tears over it.erikthebassist wrote:First of all, fuck off Abbie, go obsess over RW some more, seems to be what you're best at.ERV wrote:
Erikthebassist-- bravely defending women, but fuck those slobbering and screaming children!! Amirite?
Freak.
/Sarcasm mode off-lurking mode reengaged
Let's see .... looking at the last 2 pages ... I see comments from me, garybusey, skepticduh, Gemmer, Git, 16bit, Dave, Strawkins, angry_drunk, reap, bhoytony, andrew, submariner, another lurker, welch, Phil, Eskarina, Bhurzum, Trophy, skep tickle, LMU, Wonderist, Southern, windy, Erik, John Brown, decius, Justin, debaser71, Mr. Danksworth, Metalogic42, Renee, Pitchguest, sprinkles, Tigzy, JAB, jimthepleb ..... 37 commenters weighing in over the last 3.5 hours or so.doubthat wrote:I’ve been sick the past couple of days, so I’ve read and participated in this nonsense far more than I ever have. I’ll just leave an observation that hopefully makes people feel a little better:
Having now perused the slymepit, I have to say that my primary reaction is not that it’s a thriving cesspool of hatred, it’s that it’s basically an empty little place where about 6-12 people generate 95% of the posts, and it’s mostly just repetitive crap like, “OMG, did you see what (mock name for FtB blogger) did today?â€
They even have threads dedicated to FtB commenters, and again, the surprising thing is not how vile the attacks are (though there are plenty of those), it’s that most of the threads are just two or three posts.
Then the amusing thing is that if you go over to Michael Nugent’s blog and read his recent posts, the slymepit sympathizers are the SAME 6-12 PEOPLE!
Don’t take this as a “avoid the trolls,†“ignore the harassment,†statement, I just hope people recognize that this group is discreet and pathetic. They seem larger because of the way the amplify each other on social media sites and YouTube, but holy crap, I recommend looking through the slymepit just to get a feel for how sad and lonely it is over there.
Back to the real world for part of today, and I’m a functioning adult for tomorrow, so I’ll have to leave those battles behind content in the knowledge that they’re a marginal group whose behavior is only marginalizing them further.
It's funny, how when Abbie is featured in a video, she doesn't get hardly any hating at all. Almost as if the hypothesis that not feeding the trolls all the time doesn't really feed the trolls.John Brown wrote:Well, more notorious to you, because you're a sniveling little child who focuses on these things. You see, what you did there is solipsistic narcissism. "I don't like Abbie because she said something mean about RW. Therefore, that's what everyone thinks about Abbie!"erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.ElenaG wrote:Yeah Abbie! I mean it's not like you don't also try to find the cure to a disease instead of whining incessantly on a blog about how mean people are on the internet and it hurts your widdle feelings. You spend a majority of your time in a lab doing something worthwhile to humanity but Erik has it totally right. What you're best at is obsessing over a narcissistic, attention seeking feminist who absolutely doesn't obsess over others. It's not like you touched a nerve with Erik and he isn't crying rage tears over it.erikthebassist wrote:First of all, fuck off Abbie, go obsess over RW some more, seems to be what you're best at.ERV wrote:
Erikthebassist-- bravely defending women, but fuck those slobbering and screaming children!! Amirite?
Freak.
/Sarcasm mode off-lurking mode reengaged
Grow the fuck up.
lonesagi wrote:"Bassists, don't do that."Skep tickle wrote:Erik replied, not only on his blog but also by email to the address I'd used to sign up at his site. I had not elected to "subscribe by email".erikthebassist wrote:I will get to this tomorrow, but I do have a response, just not the energy atm to wield itSkep tickle wrote:erik,
1) You may be interested in the Ignore function (User CP, Friends & Foes tab). I don't use it but I hear some folks do.
2) I replied at your blog. Re-posted here just cuz I'd prefer not to be tabbing between your blog & Nugent's & the Pit right now:Skep tickle at erikthebassist's blog post on DBAD wrote: So "dick" is fine* but "cunt" "tears down the dignity and self esteem of half the population"? Can you explain why that would be?
*As in: "Don't be a dick" and "dickishness" from your quotes of Phil Plait and PZ Myers at the start of this post - and particularly PZ's comment, "some of the most wonderfully dickish skeptics I know are female", which is IMO a more sexist comment than anything else on this page, because he seems to be praising the women for acting like men.
erikthebassist, if you're reading here: You may not have intended that email as a creepy, stalker-ish move, but that's how it came across.
(Luckily, it was a throw-away account I won't be checking again.)
Oh like what? What are the lists and pages of hoorrrrrrrible things Abbie has said about Watson?erikthebassist wrote:Ahh if it were only about the things she's said about RW, but it's not, she's a vindictive and vile human being, for all kinds of reasons, but that's just my humble opinion, and I don't have thetime or the inclination to bother justifying it to you, suffice it to say is that she shows up on the radar far too often for the disgusting crap that spews from her pie hole.John Brown wrote:Well, more notorious to you, because you're a sniveling little child who focuses on these things. You see, what you did there is solipsistic narcissism. "I don't like Abbie because she said something mean about RW. Therefore, that's what everyone thinks about Abbie!"erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.ElenaG wrote:Yeah Abbie! I mean it's not like you don't also try to find the cure to a disease instead of whining incessantly on a blog about how mean people are on the internet and it hurts your widdle feelings. You spend a majority of your time in a lab doing something worthwhile to humanity but Erik has it totally right. What you're best at is obsessing over a narcissistic, attention seeking feminist who absolutely doesn't obsess over others. It's not like you touched a nerve with Erik and he isn't crying rage tears over it.erikthebassist wrote:
First of all, fuck off Abbie, go obsess over RW some more, seems to be what you're best at.
/Sarcasm mode off-lurking mode reengaged
Grow the fuck up.
And once again, assigning motives or thoughts to people without justification, this pattern just keeps repeating it's self here. I never said "that's what everyone thinks about Abbie", I said she is notorius because of this feud she's engaged in with RW, which is the objective truth. Obviously there are people who think she's just great, I'm just not one of them. So take your solipsistic narcissism and go get fucked. You shouldn't use big words if you don't know what they mean.
Lsuoma wrote:Renee - just donated to bump you up to your $5K.
Angry_Drunk wrote:Translation: "Oh the powerful and incisive arguments I could make to back up my statements -- if only I had the 'time and inclination'. Fear me oh people of the pit!"erikthebassist wrote:Ahh if it were only about the things she's said about RW, but it's not, she's a vindictive and vile human being, for all kinds of reasons, but that's just my humble opinion, and I don't have thetime or the inclination to bother justifying it to you, suffice it to say is that she shows up on the radar far too often for the disgusting crap that spews from her pie hole.John Brown wrote:Well, more notorious to you, because you're a sniveling little child who focuses on these things. You see, what you did there is solipsistic narcissism. "I don't like Abbie because she said something mean about RW. Therefore, that's what everyone thinks about Abbie!"erikthebassist wrote:It's not my fault she's more notorius for this feud than she is admired for the great work she's doing in virology. That's all her own doing.ElenaG wrote:
Yeah Abbie! I mean it's not like you don't also try to find the cure to a disease instead of whining incessantly on a blog about how mean people are on the internet and it hurts your widdle feelings. You spend a majority of your time in a lab doing something worthwhile to humanity but Erik has it totally right. What you're best at is obsessing over a narcissistic, attention seeking feminist who absolutely doesn't obsess over others. It's not like you touched a nerve with Erik and he isn't crying rage tears over it.
/Sarcasm mode off-lurking mode reengaged
Grow the fuck up.
And once again, assigning motives or thoughts to people without justification, this pattern just keeps repeating it's self here. I never said "that's what everyone thinks about Abbie", I said she is notorius because of this feud she's engaged in with RW, which is the objective truth. Obviously there are people who think she's just great, I'm just not one of them. So take your solipsistic narcissism and go get fucked. You shouldn't use big words if you don't know what they mean.
Hakim has produced papers that examine this subject in some detail. Such as this one "Women, careers, and work-life preferences" (3) and this one which generated a considerable amount of heated commentary titled "Feminist Myths and Magic Medicine: flawed thinking behind calls for further equality legislation" (4) (I am currently reading the last one now myself).A minority of women (between 10 and 30 per cent) are work-centred, giving priority to employment, while a similar proportion are home-centred, with their priorities centred on their children and preferring not to work. This leaves between 60 and 80 per cent in what Hakim calls the "adaptive" group, who prefer to structure work around their family responsibilities.
Oh you knew that wasn't happening. This place is his second string.Mr Danksworth wrote:I thought you had flounced off? I guess the prospect of 'victim points' is too heady for you to stick it. Go back to your masters, child. You are a bore. And to the other who keep replying to this loser...don't. You are giving him what he craves, attention. What we have here is Oolon the Second. Trololololo.erikthebassist wrote:
Ahh if it were only about the things she's said about RW, but it's not, she's a vindictive and vile human being, for all kinds of reasons, but that's just my humble opinion, and I don't have thetime or the inclination to bother justifying it to you, suffice it to say is that she shows up on the radar far too often for the disgusting crap that spews from her pie hole.
And once again, assigning motives or thoughts to people without justification, this pattern just keeps repeating it's self here. I never said "that's what everyone thinks about Abbie", I said she is notorius because of this feud she's engaged in with RW, which is the objective truth. Obviously there are people who think she's just great, I'm just not one of them. So take your solipsistic narcissism and go get fucked. You shouldn't use big words if you don't know what they mean.
Seconded.Submariner wrote:Lsuoma wrote:Renee - just donated to bump you up to your $5K.
#bravehero Lsuoma
Seriously though, congrats Renee and thanks Lsuoma.
That's what you get for playing Alliance.AndrewV69 wrote:Not that did not stop me from having hissy fits like a proper feminist at the female elves dancing in their undies on top of the mailbox at Ironforge for money.
I had a Halassian Shadowknight on Antonia Bayle (yup the RP server). I loved the Carpentry and Home Decoration aspects of that game to bits.AndrewV69 wrote: But that was a long time ago. I play EQ2 these days, and my female characters tend to wear armour appropriate for their role like my Inquisitor (plate) vs my Fury (leather).
So, it's basically like FtB then? :rimshot:Having now perused the slymepit, I have to say that my primary reaction is not that it’s a thriving cesspool of hatred, it’s that it’s basically an empty little place where about 6-12 people generate 95% of the posts, and it’s mostly just repetitive crap like, “OMG, did you see what (mock name for FtB bloggerknown sexist) did today?â€
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/WECLOME-as-in-St ... BTrGFmQBWk~$(KGrHgoH-EUEjlLluH(EBKJsYTFdrQ~~_35.JPGBhurzum wrote:I'm Scottish and fiercely proud of the fact.bhoytony wrote:Is this aimed at me? I think you may be mistaking what jimthepleb means when he refers to me as a Jock. Over here it doesn't mean the same thing as it does on the other side of the pond. He means I am a sweaty sock, a porridge wog, a native of Alba.
1) I'm as tight as a mermaids arsehole
2) I've got "mad" ginger hair
3) I'm an alcoholic (when I'm not "oot mah tits" on heroin)
4) I'm racist (English cunts are solely responsible for everything/anything that's wrong with Scotland)
5) I'm unemployed
6) I beat the fuck out of my wife
7) The slightest glimpse of the Union flag makes my blood ache
8) My only source of income is petty crime
Hmmm...did I miss anything?
http://www.computescotland.com/images/2 ... 0cu09u.jpg
MON THE JOCKS!
Note: Not to be taken *too* seriously.
The Paladin T2 Judgement set was the Best Ever Fucking Armour set in WOW. Nothing ever came close. Not even. Completely bad ass. Go for it!Southern wrote:Well, I think I have the solution for you: Paladin's T2 Judgement set. You can get it soloing Black Wing Lair raid (totally feasible as of now) and Molten Core (piece of cake) for the leg pieces. And it looks badass.skepandsprinkles wrote:I stopped playing in December and even with the transmutation it was still pretty hard for those of us on RP servers who did actually RP. I remember spending hours looking for a robe/hood combo that looked like it could be one continuous piece and failing because all the robes that were the right colors showed tits.Karmakin wrote:
I agree. Actually, I think WoW (and other MMO's) found the best solution to the clothing problem, via Transmutation type systems, where people could find the outfit that they WANTED to wear and use that independently of the stats, and it became a thing of personal expression. Options are the solution here.
For a shield (if you are Protection), solo Black Temple and Illidan drops an awesome shield that goes very well with the T2 set.
At least we don't have to crawl up someone's arse.windy wrote:So, it's basically like FtB then? :rimshot:Having now perused the slymepit, I have to say that my primary reaction is not that it’s a thriving cesspool of hatred, it’s that it’s basically an empty little place where about 6-12 people generate 95% of the posts, and it’s mostly just repetitive crap like, “OMG, did you see what (mock name for FtB bloggerknown sexist) did today?â€
I'd suggest that it's also because men want different things out of their female characters. Dragon Age 2 as you said has a good example of the character range of ladies (and of men) to suit everyone's taste. Obviously I fucked Anders because he's so broody and shit. My husband HATED ME FOR IT.welch wrote:I think the reason you start seeing things such as stronger female characters develop over time, (Dragon Age and DA 2 are great examples), is that women are not only publicly seen as gamers on the consumer side, but are all over the creation of games as well, not just in traditional areas like art, or making coffee, but in the programming, management, and financing. As videogames become more mainstream, the DiD trope becomes just one of many possible themes for a game.
I KNOW, RIGHT!bhoytony wrote:So this is what not engaging looks like.
yup. Fuck me, the university of wikipedia has some competition from Google's college of statistical analysis.decius wrote:Run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:erikthebassist wrote:
run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
PZ Myers Zebra Fish
PZ Myers skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
Dick Strawkins wrote:Lol. Don't use quotes.Dick Strawkins wrote:erikthebassist wrote:
run these two googles searches and look at the difference in hits:
abbie smith erv
abbie smith erv -skepchick -elevatorgate -rebecca -watson -twatson
http://i.imgur.com/Npp3skY.jpg
OK, :roll:
Now what? :think:
(damn edit button!)
