If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Gefan wrote:More great stuff on DOMA from Sully:

Bless the souls of those whose courage in extremis gave me and others the strength not to falter in pursuit of their dignity as human beings and their equality as citizens. We did it in part for those we left behind. And part of the reason I am crying right now is remembering them. I want them to come to the party. I want them to see they didn’t die in vain.

Gives me a chance to post the final scene of one the earliest and best "gay-themed" movies. From a time (not that long ago) when marriage equality was unthinkable, and featuring the almost unbearably mournful "Post Mortem Bar" by Zane Campbell.

[youtube]PrrRtJXkJDw[/youtube]

Enjoy (if that's the right word).

Walter Ego wrote:

DownThunder wrote:

Walter Ego wrote:That's what I thought. The manager of this budget motel hotel I'm staying at said I can't wear boxers, i.e., underwear in the lobby. Admittedly the shorts I was wearing looked like boxers but they have pockets. Stupid bitch.

Sounds like she was heteronormatively sexualising you. And flaunting her apparelist privilege.

Nah, just your typical neurotic female

Tony Parsehole wrote:Ape-Lust? For your next shoop can you do Martin Wagner being forced at gun-point to lick dog-shit off a nettle?
Not for any satirical purposes. It's just something I want to see before I die is all.

Tony Parsehole wrote:

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

Lsuoma wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:Ape-Lust? For your next shoop can you do Martin Wagner being forced at gun-point to lick dog-shit off a nettle?
Not for any satirical purposes. It's just something I want to see before I die is all.

You want Jim'll Paint It.

Dear Jim,

Please paint me Steven Seagal, Jeremy Kyle and Slipknot on an 18-30s holiday in Weston-Super-Mare. Kyle is pissed at Slipknot for using all the semi-skimmed milk but Seagal steps in and offers his Almond Milk as an alternative. There happens to be a Lilliput Lane Pottery Collectors convention taking place on the beach as well.

Cheers,

Professor Green

katamari Damassi wrote: really can't stand Little Roy Cohn and don't get why you feel the need to read his stuff, but I do love Long Time Companion and that is a great scene.

Cunning Punt wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

I would look forward to an explanation of this from her.

Tony Parsehole wrote:

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

Keating wrote:Australia loses it's first female Prime Minister.

Kareem wrote: On Penn & Teller's Bullshit, they got environmentalists to sign a petition to ban water.

Dick Strawkins wrote:Latest additions to the misogynist archive include:
EWTS key speaker Kate Smurthwaite, FTB new boy Ally Fogg, and finally Dave denouce-the-shit Silverman.

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Gefan wrote:

katamari Damassi wrote: really can't stand Little Roy Cohn and don't get why you feel the need to read his stuff, but I do love Long Time Companion and that is a great scene.

Okay, now this is a potentially interesting conversation.
I don't understand the hostility to Sullivan, let alone comparing him to Roy Cohn. It's not like he's Marcus Bachmann, Ted Haggard, Lindsey Graham, Matt Drudge, Larry Craig (the list goes on).
Sully seems to me an eminently reasonable figure (aside from his adulation of Obama - outside of the recent capitulation on Syria) but I'm not gay so I may be missing something.

Kareem wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:
EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

On Penn & Teller's Bullshit, they got environmentalists to sign a petition to ban water.
Sometimes we have to forget the forest and look at the trees in front of us.


... did that sound deep?

katamari Damassi wrote:

Gefan wrote:

katamari Damassi wrote: really can't stand Little Roy Cohn and don't get why you feel the need to read his stuff, but I do love Long Time Companion and that is a great scene.

Okay, now this is a potentially interesting conversation.
I don't understand the hostility to Sullivan, let alone comparing him to Roy Cohn. It's not like he's Marcus Bachmann, Ted Haggard, Lindsey Graham, Matt Drudge, Larry Craig (the list goes on).
Sully seems to me an eminently reasonable figure (aside from his adulation of Obama - outside of the recent capitulation on Syria) but I'm not gay so I may be missing something.

I didn't coin the moniker Little Roy Cohn. I wish I had, but I don't even remember where I first heard it, but it has been used by liberal gays for years.
Why I hate him:
His Catholicism and defense of Catholicism.
He destroyed The New Republic Magazine. Then when its publisher Marty Peretz(a loathsome man himself) wanted to fire him, Sullivan used his HIV status to extort generous compensation from him.
He's an advocate for Murray and Hernstein's book The Bell Curve.
In the 90's he was a constant scold to gay men because of their promiscuous ways, was later caught posting personal ads on a website Bareback City looking to take as many "milky loads" as he could, although he at least had the decency to post his HIV status.
In the mid 90's when the first effective HIV drugs came on the market, he published an essay in the NYT called When Plagues End; telling gay men that they didn't have to be concerned about AIDS anymore.
When he was young and twinkish he wrote an article scorning gay bear culture, telling bears they should get their fat asses to the gym. When he got older and fatter he wrote an article praising bear culture.
He was a supporter of G.W.B and for the Iraq war. He even wrote that liberals against the war had to be watched because they might "mount a potential fifth column" against the USA.
When he switched sides in 2008 he became obsessed with this conspiracy theory that Sarah Palin's downs syndrome baby was really the first child of Bristol Palin.
I'm sure there's more, but that's all off the top of my head right now.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Gefan wrote:

katamari Damassi wrote: really can't stand Little Roy Cohn and don't get why you feel the need to read his stuff, but I do love Long Time Companion and that is a great scene.

Okay, now this is a potentially interesting conversation.
I don't understand the hostility to Sullivan, let alone comparing him to Roy Cohn. It's not like he's Marcus Bachmann, Ted Haggard, Lindsey Graham, Matt Drudge, Larry Craig (the list goes on).
Sully seems to me an eminently reasonable figure (aside from his adulation of Obama - outside of the recent capitulation on Syria) but I'm not gay so I may be missing something.

I didn't coin the moniker Little Roy Cohn. I wish I had, but I don't even remember where I first heard it, but it has been used by liberal gays for years.
Why I hate him:
His Catholicism and defense of Catholicism.
He destroyed The New Republic Magazine. Then when its publisher Marty Peretz(a loathsome man himself) wanted to fire him, Sullivan used his HIV status to extort generous compensation from him.
He's an advocate for Murray and Hernstein's book The Bell Curve.
In the 90's he was a constant scold to gay men because of their promiscuous ways, was later caught posting personal ads on a website Bareback City looking to take as many "milky loads" as he could, although he at least had the decency to post his HIV status.
In the mid 90's when the first effective HIV drugs came on the market, he published an essay in the NYT called When Plagues End; telling gay men that they didn't have to be concerned about AIDS anymore.
When he was young and twinkish he wrote an article scorning gay bear culture, telling bears they should get their fat asses to the gym. When he got older and fatter he wrote an article praising bear culture.
He was a supporter of G.W.B and for the Iraq war. He even wrote that liberals against the war had to be watched because they might "mount a potential fifth column" against the USA.
When he switched sides in 2008 he became obsessed with this conspiracy theory that Sarah Palin's downs syndrome baby was really the first child of Bristol Palin.
I'm sure there's more, but that's all off the top of my head right now.

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

:think:

cunt wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

:think:

What? I assume you posted that because you think she's wrong.

cunt wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

:think:

What? I assume you posted that because you think she's wrong.

Tony Parsehole wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:BTW muthalickers. Is anybody watching "The Returned"* on Channel 4?

*"Les Revenants" in the original French.

Yeah.

Quite enjoying it too. Not sure what to say about it exactly though. It's promising, but I hope it fulfils some expectation of having something pretty interesting to say about the young mute boy, and the serial liver eater.

It's one of my fave things on TV at the mo for the soundtrack alone. I just hope it doesn't devolve into the fart-sniffing pretentious wankery of Lost with it's mountain of unanswered questions.

cunt wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

:think:

What? I assume you posted that because you think she's wrong.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

cunt wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

:think:

What? I assume you posted that because you think she's wrong.

Indeed. The question was entirely reasonable - although I think they meant sex crime rates rather than just 'crime rates'.
Taslima seems to reject the idea of sex education in favor of some undescribed ending the patriarchy and misogyny move, which will somehow 'end the rape'.

That kind of absolutist argument reminds me of Catholic opposition to condoms - because it's only 90% successful.

Atheists come in many varieties. For example, they can be angry like Greta Christina, or they can be Friendly, like Hemant Mehta, or they can be Positive, like all the Atheists in Minnesota. PZ Myers, it turns out, is The Happy Atheist, and all the other Atheists should be happy that he’s about to publish a book by that name.

The Happy Atheist is more of an anthology of essays than a tome. PZ Myers, mainly on his blog, Pharyngula, writes about biology with emphases on evolution and development, social justice with an emphasis on feminism, politics with an emphasis on secularism, and Atheism with an emphasis on the perils and problems of religion, religions, and religiosity and the positive aspects of non-belief. The essays on the Happy Atheist draw mainly from the second two of these categories, with emphasis on the last.

To many people, including, I think, people first thinking about non-belief, Agnosticism, and Atheism — walking away from a cultural background that involves faith — is troubling. When we want to be funny we can say that the meaning of life if “42″ but really, that is a serious question that probably troubles people leaving their religion more than many others, because religion took care of that sort of thing for you. For many, being an Atheist is philosophically hard, even if they are strongly drawn towards non-belief. This is where PZ Myers’ writing excels and is tremendously important; his views on how to be a “Happy Atheist” clarify and inspire.

If you read PZ’s blog you will recognize the themes, and in some cases, the stories, in this book, but rest assured this is NOT a collection of Pharyngula blog posts. On his Blog, PZ does an admirable job, putting us other bloggers to shame, with the level of refinement of his writing. I assume he’s just plain good at first drafts. So, this book is not simply a set of more advanced and refined drafts of his blog posts either. These essays actually have a different feel to them. I sense that PZ wrote most of these essays in a different place, perhaps using different software, maybe with a different mix of caffeinated beverages, at a different time of day, and using different prompts, than he usually uses for his blog. Don’t get me wrong, this book is the real PZ Myers, and if you are a fan you won’t be surprised or disappointed. But, most importantly, if you are a regular reader of his blog, you will want to explore these essays because they are not his blog, they are his book.

I haven’t seen what the final product is going to look like, as I’ve only got a proof copy. But hopefully it will be a pretty little book that will make an excellent summer read when it comes out in August, and a totally appropriate stocking stuffer later on in the year!

Dick Strawkins wrote:Laden reviews PZ Myers new book.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/ ... y-atheist/

Atheists come in many varieties. For example, they can be angry like Greta Christina, or they can be Friendly, like Hemant Mehta, or they can be Positive, like all the Atheists in Minnesota. PZ Myers, it turns out, is The Happy Atheist, and all the other Atheists should be happy that he’s about to publish a book by that name.
...

cunt wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Indeed. The question was entirely reasonable - although I think they meant sex crime rates rather than just 'crime rates'.
Taslima seems to reject the idea of sex education in favor of some undescribed ending the patriarchy and misogyny move, which will somehow 'end the rape'.

That kind of absolutist argument reminds me of Catholic opposition to condoms - because it's only 90% successful.

Maybe my sex ed. class was a bit shit because all I learned was what a condom is and I dunno, girls can get pregnant. Also, if you ask your 24 year old teacher if you can both piss and cum at the same time, honest fucking question, she'll tell you to shut up.

katamari Damassi wrote: Why I hate him:
His Catholicism and defense of Catholicism.

He destroyed The New Republic Magazine. Then when its publisher Marty Peretz(a loathsome man himself) wanted to fire him, Sullivan used his HIV status to extort generous compensation from him.

He's an advocate for Murray and Hernstein's book The Bell Curve.

In the 90's he was a constant scold to gay men because of their promiscuous ways, was later caught posting personal ads on a website Bareback City looking to take as many "milky loads" as he could, although he at least had the decency to post his HIV status.

In the mid 90's when the first effective HIV drugs came on the market, he published an essay in the NYT called When Plagues End; telling gay men that they didn't have to be concerned about AIDS anymore.

When he was young and twinkish he wrote an article scorning gay bear culture, telling bears they should get their fat asses to the gym. When he got older and fatter he wrote an article praising bear culture.

He was a supporter of G.W.B and for the Iraq war. He even wrote that liberals against the war had to be watched because they might "mount a potential fifth column" against the USA.

When he switched sides in 2008 he became obsessed with this conspiracy theory that Sarah Palin's downs syndrome baby was really the first child of Bristol Palin.

I'm sure there's more, but that's all off the top of my head right now.

Dick Strawkins wrote:Laden reviews PZ Myers new book.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/ ... y-atheist/

Atheists come in many varieties. [...] But hopefully it will be a pretty little book that will make an excellent summer read when it comes out in August, and a totally appropriate stocking stuffer later on in the year!

Gefan wrote:Okay, now this is a potentially interesting conversation.
I don't understand the hostility to Sullivan, let alone comparing him to Roy Cohn. It's not like he's Marcus Bachmann, Ted Haggard, Lindsey Graham, Matt Drudge, Larry Craig (the list goes on).
Sully seems to me an eminently reasonable figure (aside from his adulation of Obama - outside of the recent capitulation on Syria) but I'm not gay so I may be missing something.

katamari Damassi wrote:I didn't coin the moniker Little Roy Cohn. I wish I had, but I don't even remember where I first heard it, but it has been used by liberal gays for years.
Why I hate him:
His Catholicism and defense of Catholicism.
He destroyed The New Republic Magazine. Then when its publisher Marty Peretz(a loathsome man himself) wanted to fire him, Sullivan used his HIV status to extort generous compensation from him.
He's an advocate for Murray and Hernstein's book The Bell Curve.
In the 90's he was a constant scold to gay men because of their promiscuous ways, was later caught posting personal ads on a website Bareback City looking to take as many "milky loads" as he could, although he at least had the decency to post his HIV status.
In the mid 90's when the first effective HIV drugs came on the market, he published an essay in the NYT called When Plagues End; telling gay men that they didn't have to be concerned about AIDS anymore.
When he was young and twinkish he wrote an article scorning gay bear culture, telling bears they should get their fat asses to the gym. When he got older and fatter he wrote an article praising bear culture.
He was a supporter of G.W.B and for the Iraq war. He even wrote that liberals against the war had to be watched because they might "mount a potential fifth column" against the USA.
When he switched sides in 2008 he became obsessed with this conspiracy theory that Sarah Palin's downs syndrome baby was really the first child of Bristol Palin.
I'm sure there's more, but that's all off the top of my head right now.

Dave wrote:

cunt wrote:
Maybe my sex ed. class was a bit shit because all I learned was what a condom is and I dunno, girls can get pregnant. Also, if you ask your 24 year old teacher if you can both piss and cum at the same time, honest fucking question, she'll tell you to shut up.

Im guessing it was a bit shit because my class did cover that very question, no one even had to ask. :lol:

cunt wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote: It's one of my fave things on TV at the mo for the soundtrack alone. I just hope it doesn't devolve into the fart-sniffing pretentious wankery of Lost with it's mountain of unanswered questions.

4 or 5 episodes backed up on the DVR at the moment. Should probably get on that.

I'm really enjoying Fresh Meat btw.

Dick Strawkins wrote:Laden reviews PZ Myers new book.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/ ... y-atheist/

Atheists come in many varieties. For example, they can be angry like Greta Christina, or they can be Friendly, like Hemant Mehta, or they can be Positive, like all the Atheists in Minnesota. PZ Myers, it turns out, is The Happy Atheist, and all the other Atheists should be happy that he’s about to publish a book by that name.

The Happy Atheist is more of an anthology of essays than a tome. PZ Myers, mainly on his blog, Pharyngula, writes about biology with emphases on evolution and development, social justice with an emphasis on feminism, politics with an emphasis on secularism, and Atheism with an emphasis on the perils and problems of religion, religions, and religiosity and the positive aspects of non-belief. The essays on the Happy Atheist draw mainly from the second two of these categories, with emphasis on the last.

To many people, including, I think, people first thinking about non-belief, Agnosticism, and Atheism — walking away from a cultural background that involves faith — is troubling. When we want to be funny we can say that the meaning of life if “42″ but really, that is a serious question that probably troubles people leaving their religion more than many others, because religion took care of that sort of thing for you. For many, being an Atheist is philosophically hard, even if they are strongly drawn towards non-belief. This is where PZ Myers’ writing excels and is tremendously important; his views on how to be a “Happy Atheist” clarify and inspire.

If you read PZ’s blog you will recognize the themes, and in some cases, the stories, in this book, but rest assured this is NOT a collection of Pharyngula blog posts. On his Blog, PZ does an admirable job, putting us other bloggers to shame, with the level of refinement of his writing. I assume he’s just plain good at first drafts. So, this book is not simply a set of more advanced and refined drafts of his blog posts either. These essays actually have a different feel to them. I sense that PZ wrote most of these essays in a different place, perhaps using different software, maybe with a different mix of caffeinated beverages, at a different time of day, and using different prompts, than he usually uses for his blog. Don’t get me wrong, this book is the real PZ Myers, and if you are a fan you won’t be surprised or disappointed. But, most importantly, if you are a regular reader of his blog, you will want to explore these essays because they are not his blog, they are his book.

I haven’t seen what the final product is going to look like, as I’ve only got a proof copy. But hopefully it will be a pretty little book that will make an excellent summer read when it comes out in August, and a totally appropriate stocking stuffer later on in the year!

Tony Parsehole wrote:

cunt wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote: It's one of my fave things on TV at the mo for the soundtrack alone. I just hope it doesn't devolve into the fart-sniffing pretentious wankery of Lost with it's mountain of unanswered questions.

4 or 5 episodes backed up on the DVR at the moment. Should probably get on that.

I'm really enjoying Fresh Meat btw.

Ah excellent. I was going to ask you about it but didn't want to pester you into watching it. Knew that would be up your street.

Let us know if you get around to watching The Returned. I'm just really hoping they don't fuck it up coz so far it's been brilliant.

VACULA!!!! wrote: I did not urinate on a nativity scene.

Hopefully this will dispel confusion.

cunt wrote:Add Spiral (Engrenages) and The Killing (Forbrydelsen). I kind of like the idea of the slymepit becoming more of a tv/film/book-club.

Dick Strawkins wrote:Laden reviews PZ Myers new book.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/ ... y-atheist/

Scented Nectar wrote: Thank you to whoever mentioned paint.net and the colormatch add-on a while back.

another lurker wrote:

cunt wrote:Add Spiral (Engrenages) and The Killing (Forbrydelsen). I kind of like the idea of the slymepit becoming more of a tv/film/book-club.

Someone started a book and movies thread on another part of the forum. I could probably cut and paste my list there, and add anything new. I also have a list of 'the most fucked up and disgusting movies of all time' which some here may find interesting :P

Dick Strawkins wrote:

LurkerPerson wrote:How do you people feel about "pseudo-anonymous"? I haven't registered and probably won't, because as my nick implies I mostly lurk. But when I do feel compelled to post I do it with an identifiable nick. I've seen a couple of other people doing the same thing. I think it agrees with common internet etiquette.
If all else fails everyone has writing tics or a particular style. I can differentiate some of the plain "Guest" posts, or at least I think so.

I think that is OK for the occasional poster.
If you are going to be commenting frequently, however, having a login username gives others the option of putting you on ignore - something that can be really useful, or even essential for particularly annoying posters.

Dick Strawkins wrote: http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

:think:

No. Eradication of misogyny and patriarchy will end the rape. RT @cloesp do u think sex education can reduce crime rates in India?

Cunning Punt wrote:
She drags him behind the reception desk and Benny Hill music plays.

agarybuseychristmas wrote:"Do you think a social safety net can reduce rates of poverty?"
"NO! ONLY UNTIL WE CRUSH CAPITALISM WILL POVERTY END!"

Mykeru wrote:

Cunning Punt wrote:
She drags him behind the reception desk and Benny Hill music plays.

Walter, she's not the boss of you. Bitches like her only respect one thing and one thing only: Strength. As that's not an option for you, you'll have to improvise. By improvise I mean break the glass on the vending machine, smear yourself with orange Cheese Doodle powder like guy- on-the-internet war paint, jump up on the counter, drop trou in front of her and dangle Ego Jr. and his sad grey luggage right in her face and then drop a hot steaming corn-pocked shit right on the formica. Then woop like an injun and run out the door and right into the pool. Especially if there's no water in it.

That'll show her.

Anything less is just fucking boring.

Jan Steen wrote:Funny comment under Watson's crow eating piece:

Benny wrote:There was actually another story that happened at nearly the same time as all of this in the BDSM world. Shibaricon, a HUGE rope bondage conference, had some significant problems a week after WiS2. A large group of people who had worked with the event as speakers, educators, staff members, volunteers, etc (myself included) signed an open letter voicing concerns about several problems. The apology eventually put forward by the event organizers there was very well written and showed a better understanding of the problems than I had expected. This letter came out within 24 hours of the CFI board statement and I felt it was a stark contrast and a lesson in exactly this issue. Though we have yet to see if changes actually take place at Shibaricon (it’s the kind of situation that requires real leadership change) they seem to be headed on the right path.

There are HUGE rope bondage conferences?

One can only speculate what kind of problems they could have had.

http://skepchick.org/2013/06/adequate-v ... apologies/

Tony Parsehole wrote:

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BQc31zG.jpg

Walter Ego wrote:

Mykeru wrote:

Cunning Punt wrote:
She drags him behind the reception desk and Benny Hill music plays.

Walter, she's not the boss of you. Bitches like her only respect one thing and one thing only: Strength. As that's not an option for you, you'll have to improvise. By improvise I mean break the glass on the vending machine, smear yourself with orange Cheese Doodle powder like guy- on-the-internet war paint, jump up on the counter, drop trou in front of her and dangle Ego Jr. and his sad grey luggage right in her face and then drop a hot steaming corn-pocked shit right on the formica. Then woop like an injun and run out the door and right into the pool. Especially if there's no water in it.

That'll show her.

Anything less is just fucking boring.

That made me laugh, It hurts when I laugh. (The good dope they gave me at the hospital this morning has worn off.)

Actually, it was foot-long Walter, Jr. dangling out of the left pant leg of my boxers that set the bitch off in the first place. She was so traumatized she didn't come to work today.

AndrewV69 wrote:

No. Eradication of misogyny and patriarchy will end the rape. RT @cloesp do u think sex education can reduce crime rates in India?

Aneris wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:Laden reviews PZ Myers new book.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/ ... y-atheist/

Atheists come in many varieties. [...] But hopefully it will be a pretty little book that will make an excellent summer read when it comes out in August, and a totally appropriate stocking stuffer later on in the year!

Brilliant. Greg Laden's review is just like Pharyngula, all meta, no content. He is discussing none of the themes or points made in the book, just like how it is on the real comment section where also nobody really bothers with points made by someone else (because agreement is just "this. so much this." and the rest is dogpiling).