Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

[debaser71]

Did Matt Dillahunty allude to taking part in swingers orgies or am I remembering snatches of a deeply repressed nightmare?

Nah, I remember something like that too.

I think it was something to do with conference harassment policies - Dolly once mentioned that even swingers/bondage/something of that ilk conferences have harassment policies. As to whether he was speaking from experience or not - don't know. Don't want to, either.

He talked about it in one of his driving while recording himself videos. I just figured he was flat out lying. Granted there are sex clubs and what not that go down pretty much as M.D. described. There's at least one that I know of called The Vault, in NYC. I've never been there but I've heard stories....true or not, I can't say. It sounds repulsive to me.

[cunt]

Yeah that was it. He sounded like he was speaking from experience. You'd think that swingers parties would have an extra special need for harassment policies just on the basis that there's a bunch of horny naked people walking around stroking their dicks/pussies, but whatever. I don't really have a problem with atheist conferences having them either. Go nuts.

[Dick Strawkins]

Dillahunty mentioned sex clubs in one of his videos. He was talking about clubs and conferences having rules and mentioned he knows that even sex clubs have rules.

http://i.imgur.com/kjiCcG0.jpg

[Tony Parsehole]

Did Matt Dillahunty allude to taking part in swingers orgies or am I remembering snatches of a deeply repressed nightmare?

Nah, I remember something like that too.

Thank fuck for that.

[Tony Parsehole]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

[katamari Damassi]

From Andrew Sullivan's blog (re the striking down on DOMA):

10.34 am. Kennedy money quote:

Though these discrete examples establish the constitutionality of limited federal laws that regulate the meaning of marriage in order to further federal policy, DOMA has a far greater reach; for it enacts a directive applicable to over 1,000 federal statutes and the whole realm of federal regulations. And its operation is directed to a class of persons that the laws of New York, and of 11 other States, have sought to protect.

Translation: the feds may tinker with some aspects of a state’s civil marriages, but they may not remove an entire class of persons from equal protection. This is a conservative point – and DOMA was a betrayal of conservative federalism in favor of Christianist big government. I actually made that case sitting in front of the House hearings on DOMA. The Republicans were uninterested. They knew what they were about to do: gay-bait their way to re-election in 1996. And so Bill Clinton – a constitutional lawyer who signed this bill and who ordered his Justice Department to declare that it had no constitutional issues with it at all – gay-baited back. Today is as much a rebuke to the cynicism of Bill Clinton as it is to the fanaticism of the GOP.

Milky Loads just cannot let go of Bill Clinton can he?

[Tony Parsehole]

Dillahunty mentioned sex clubs in one of his videos. He was talking about clubs and conferences having rules and mentioned he knows that even sex clubs have rules.

http://i.imgur.com/kjiCcG0.jpg

Sex club rules courtesy of Beth Presswood.

[Gefan]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

If you have good communication and a good relationship it's no big deal.
The general rule in the lifestyle is that it makes the good relationships better and puts the bad ones out of their misery.

[cunt]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

Soooo... life couldn't possibly get any worse, right?

[Dick Strawkins]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

Soooo... life couldn't possibly get any worse, right?

It could always get worse.

Parsehole might manage to talk his missus into joining a swinger club only to turn up the first night and find it's Dillahunty's club!

[Tribble]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

I've known a handful (from the early 1980s) in my time. It pretty much worked out like this:

1. Guy brings up subject "open marriage" or "open relationship."
2. Gal is not enthused, some ups-and-downs occur, but eventually changes mind.
3. Guy is (relatively) luckless, while gal gets all the dick (and vagina if she goes that way, too) she wants.
4. Guy thinks this is now BAD IDEA but gal is really enjoying it (though at least some of it seemed to be 'revenge fucking').
5. Divorce.

Now, my experience with these people is limited (I dated a woman who lived in Morehouse, now called Lafayette Morehouse, before I met her and she kept some of those friends). But in the few instances I've seen it, it's always gone that way.

With the advent of the Internet and other changes... I don't know how it works in that community any longer, though I'm sure there are sites they use to find like individuals so there's probably a far smaller risk of two incompatible people getting together.

[Tribble]

Dillahunty mentioned sex clubs in one of his videos. He was talking about clubs and conferences having rules and mentioned he knows that even sex clubs have rules.

http://i.imgur.com/kjiCcG0.jpg

If I went to a sex club and saw Matt Dillahunty naked, I'd probably turn celibate... So I heartily endorse Rule #2...

[Random Lurker]

How do you people feel about "pseudo-anonymous"? I haven't registered and probably won't, because as my nick implies I mostly lurk. But when I do feel compelled to post I do it with an identifiable nick. I've seen a couple of other people doing the same thing. I think it agrees with common internet etiquette.
If all else fails everyone has writing tics or a particular style. I can differentiate some of the plain "Guest" posts, or at least I think so.

<delurk>

Just wanted to say real quick that I registered so I could use the 'go to first unread post' feature. I only lurk here, but registering has made it a thousand times easier to keep current as compared to reading as a guest. Something to consider.

<relurk>

[Gefan]

More great stuff on DOMA from Sully:

Bless the souls of those whose courage in extremis gave me and others the strength not to falter in pursuit of their dignity as human beings and their equality as citizens. We did it in part for those we left behind. And part of the reason I am crying right now is remembering them. I want them to come to the party. I want them to see they didn’t die in vain.

Gives me a chance to post the final scene of one the earliest and best "gay-themed" movies. From a time (not that long ago) when marriage equality was unthinkable, and featuring the almost unbearably mournful "Post Mortem Bar" by Zane Campbell.

[youtube]PrrRtJXkJDw[/youtube]

Enjoy (if that's the right word).

[Tony Parsehole]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

Soooo... life couldn't possibly get any worse, right?

It could always get worse.

Parsehole might manage to talk his missus into joining a swinger club only to turn up the first night and find it's Dillahunty's club!

The mental image of Matt Dillahunty rummaging around in my lass' skin-mitten......
Oh the humanity.

[Tony Parsehole]

@Strawkins.
How come your avatar has shrunk and got shittier resolution?

[Tony Parsehole]

Dillahunty mentioned sex clubs in one of his videos. He was talking about clubs and conferences having rules and mentioned he knows that even sex clubs have rules.

http://i.imgur.com/kjiCcG0.jpg

If I went to a sex club and saw Matt Dillahunty naked, I'd probably turn celibate... So I heartily endorse Rule #2...

If I went to a club and saw Matt Dillahunty naked I'd assume it was a fancy dress party and somebody had decided to come as a hamburger.

[Kareem]

[Gefan]

If I went to a club and saw Matt Dillahunty naked I'd assume it was a fancy dress party and somebody had decided to come as a hamburger.

Or as Stephanie Zvan (only with bigger boobs).

[Tribble]

For the record, I dont actually believe Mooney left POI for Mother Jones Just Because Of Ron.

He and Sheril pulled this same stunt with The Intersection/leaving SciBlogs. They had already organized the shift, as many bloggers had already done, and it wasnt until after it was set they were all "WE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE OF PZ MYERS!!!!!!"

No, they wanted to move their blog. It was just 'cute' to blame it on Myers later for internet points.

Likewise, Mooney has always fancied himself A Very Important Individual. As someone already stated, compare the traffic stats of Mother Jones vs CFI. Im pretty sure hes been wanting to move for a while, but Ron is just a handy scape-goat.

Srsly, hes done this before.

Alexa Rankings:

Mother Jones #6171 world wide
CFI #102,319 world wide.


Yeah, it was all about horrible impact of the Lindsay speech... Oh, wait, CFI has been slowly (over the past year-and-a-half) going down in the rankings, not up. Through much of 2012, they were pretty steady at 60,000ish ranking. Now, well, they're pretty much mired in the 100K+ rankings and still dropping.

Meanwhile Mother Jones has bounced up-and-down in the 5000-to-10000 webtraffic range. A big, big step up from where Mooney was...

[Tony Parsehole]

BTW muthalickers. Is anybody watching "The Returned"* on Channel 4?

*"Les Revenants" in the original French.

[free thoughtpolice]

Did Matt Dillahunty allude to taking part in swingers orgies or am I remembering snatches of a deeply repressed nightmare?

Nah, I remember something like that too.

Thank fuck for that.

Doormatt in reference to rules at conventions said something to the effect of " Even sex parties have rules, lots of rules".
IIRC he was taking a dump in his car at the time.

[Dick Strawkins]

@Strawkins.
How come your avatar has shrunk and got shittier resolution?

I have it in hypnotic mode.
Look carefully at it.

[Tony Parsehole]

@Strawkins.
How come your avatar has shrunk and got shittier resolution?

I have it in hypnotic mode.
Look carefully at it.

Ahhhhh.....I see it now. For a few seconds there I thought you were trolling me.

[some guy]

Oh come on, Sara! You know that, in addition to being an internationally recognized researcher in Evolutionary Biology *and* Evolutionary Psychology, and a noted 1st Amendment legal scholar, Rebecca Watson also excels at traveling the world giving talks to lay persons on all of these topics.

Thus, in addition to her seminal contributions in the areas of her expertise, she is also an important communicator helping bridge the gap between the knowledge of those active in their academics fields and the general population at large.

The world would be a poorer place if someone maliciously orchestrated a boycott of her talks. Shame on you!

[Mykeru]

<delurk>

Just wanted to say real quick that I registered so I could use the 'go to first unread post' feature. I only lurk here, but registering has made it a thousand times easier to keep current as compared to reading as a guest. Something to consider.

<relurk>

Thank you for registering, and go fuck yourself.

[Tony Parsehole]

Doormatt in reference to rules at conventions said something to the effect of " Even sex parties have rules, lots of rules".
IIRC he was taking a dump in his car at the time.

Yeah, that rings a bell. Couldn't remember if he said he takes part in them. Not that it's any of my business. I'm just a gossiping cunt.

[Walter Ego]

That's what I thought. The manager of this budget motel hotel I'm staying at said I can't wear boxers, i.e., underwear in the lobby. Admittedly the shorts I was wearing looked like boxers but they have pockets. Stupid bitch.

Sounds like she was heteronormatively sexualising you. And flaunting her apparelist privilege.

Nah, just your typical neurotic female. Apparently she has a "thing" about boxer shorts. Nobody else who works at the front desk has said a thing about me parading around in my skivvies.

[Dave2]

BTW muthalickers. Is anybody watching "The Returned"* on Channel 4?

*"Les Revenants" in the original French.

Yeah.

Quite enjoying it too. Not sure what to say about it exactly though. It's promising, but I hope it fulfils some expectation of having something pretty interesting to say about the young mute boy, and the serial liver eater.

[Tony Parsehole]

3rd degree BURN.

[Tony Parsehole]

BTW muthalickers. Is anybody watching "The Returned"* on Channel 4?

*"Les Revenants" in the original French.

Yeah.

Quite enjoying it too. Not sure what to say about it exactly though. It's promising, but I hope it fulfils some expectation of having something pretty interesting to say about the young mute boy, and the serial liver eater.

It's one of my fave things on TV at the mo for the soundtrack alone. I just hope it doesn't devolve into the fart-sniffing pretentious wankery of Lost with it's mountain of unanswered questions.

[Tony Parsehole]

That's what I thought. The manager of this budget motel hotel I'm staying at said I can't wear boxers, i.e., underwear in the lobby. Admittedly the shorts I was wearing looked like boxers but they have pockets. Stupid bitch.

Sounds like she was heteronormatively sexualising you. And flaunting her apparelist privilege.

Nah, just your typical neurotic female. Apparently she has a "thing" about boxer shorts. Nobody else who works at the front desk has said a thing about me parading around in my skivvies.

It's not your boxers themselves that are causing the problems Walter. It's the lemon stains on the front and the Nutella streaks on the back.

[Walter Ego]

Reasons to post under guest:

• It's a long and honored internet tradition going back to slashdot
• It helps focus on the argument, not the person that said it
• In an age of government spying, it makes it just a bit harder for people to track others
• It makes it easier to avoid the flamewars and middle school drama that pervades this place, the Mykeru / Welch temper tantrums, crap like that that suck the soul out of the pit and show the pit ain't a whole lot better than the fftb assholes, probably just the same but in the outgroup
• It makes it harder to post, which means most comments I'd like to make are not made, which believe me, helps you and me.
• It pisses off the anal retentive control freaks that somehow think they are regulars and own the place and get offended because they view anonymity as some grave offense to them or threat to their stature.

Basically if the admin of a forum makes anonymity an option, people will use that, and that stick up your ass should be directed at the admin, not at the people.

I haven't seen any abuse of anonymous commenting here, no spam, no threats, no libel, no doxing, so truly, y'all pull your heads out of your asses cause your whinges smell like your asses because that's where your heads are. Up your asses.

Translation: I'm paranoid and don't want anyone to know who I am. Let me assure you nobody gives a fuck who you are. Man up and register a username asshole.

[Remick]

That's what I thought. The manager of this budget motel hotel I'm staying at said I can't wear boxers, i.e., underwear in the lobby. Admittedly the shorts I was wearing looked like boxers but they have pockets. Stupid bitch.

Sounds like she was heteronormatively sexualising you. And flaunting her apparelist privilege.

Nah, just your typical neurotic female. Apparently she has a "thing" about boxer shorts. Nobody else who works at the front desk has said a thing about me parading around in my skivvies.

Amazing! What happens next?

[ReneeHendricks]

Yeah that was it. He sounded like he was speaking from experience. You'd think that swingers parties would have an extra special need for harassment policies just on the basis that there's a bunch of horny naked people walking around stroking their dicks/pussies, but whatever. I don't really have a problem with atheist conferences having them either. Go nuts.

Actually, speaking from experience, swingers clubs are all about the women being in charge. I've never been read a harassment policy at one. The main rule is... "the women are in charge". Oddly enough, this works very well.

[ReneeHendricks]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

You have a "missus" like me who is bisexual and thinks that sex is definitely fantastic recreation :D Granted, I'm not the norm.

[ReneeHendricks]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

If you have good communication and a good relationship it's no big deal.
The general rule in the lifestyle is that it makes the good relationships better and puts the bad ones out of their misery.

That's it - perfectly stated. You can't go into something like that with a broken relationship thinking it will make it better. It *never* does.

[Tigzy]

If I went to a club and saw Matt Dillahunty naked I'd assume it was a fancy dress party and somebody had decided to come as a hamburger.

:lol: You are a bad, bad man, Parsehole.

[JayTeeAitch]

That's what I thought. The manager of this budget motel hotel I'm staying at said I can't wear boxers, i.e., underwear in the lobby. Admittedly the shorts I was wearing looked like boxers but they have pockets. Stupid bitch.

Sounds like she was heteronormatively sexualising you. And flaunting her apparelist privilege.

Nah, just your typical neurotic female. Apparently she has a "thing" about boxer shorts. Nobody else who works at the front desk has said a thing about me parading around in my skivvies.

I've managed to get hold of some cctv footage of you at your budget hotel Walter; thankfully you're not in your boxers :)

[youtube]6pLROuX-hw0[/youtube]

[Scented Nectar]

Strangely (and not on purpose), the in-between images of them look a bit like Surly Amy!

Thank you to whoever mentioned paint.net and the colormatch add-on a while back.

Girl, don't do that!

I'll never see War of the Worlds the same way again...

I'm sorry. I couldn't resist. IOU one bottle of memory bleach. :lol:

[Tony Parsehole]

If I went to a club and saw Matt Dillahunty naked I'd assume it was a fancy dress party and somebody had decided to come as a hamburger.

:lol: You are a bad, bad man, Parsehole.

HAHA. That was never in doubt.

[Tony Parsehole]

Strangely (and not on purpose), the in-between images of them look a bit like Surly Amy!

Thank you to whoever mentioned paint.net and the colormatch add-on a while back.

Girl, don't do that!

I'll never see War of the Worlds the same way again...

I'm sorry. I couldn't resist. IOU one bottle of memory bleach. :lol:

It was a damn good animation considering you never used Paint.Net before. How did you do it?

[Tony Parsehole]

I always wonder how swingers get into swinging. How to you broach the subject of fucking other people, to your missus, without getting a slap?

You have a "missus" like me who is bisexual and thinks that sex is definitely fantastic recreation :D Granted, I'm not the norm.

It's not for me. I'm WAAaaay Too jealous to let another bloke spoff on my missus' tits.

[Dave2]

It's one of my fave things on TV at the mo for the soundtrack alone. I just hope it doesn't devolve into the fart-sniffing pretentious wankery of Lost with it's mountain of unanswered questions.

That's the fear - that they will just keep amping up the weird stuff and then the twist will be that really, it was the town that had been destroyed and so the living have caught up with the dead or something.

[Scented Nectar]

Strangely (and not on purpose), the in-between images of them look a bit like Surly Amy!

Thank you to whoever mentioned paint.net and the colormatch add-on a while back.

I actually took me a while before I realized that Surly Amy and Amanda Marcotte were different people.

They go to the same hair cutters.

[Dick Strawkins]

Yeah that was it. He sounded like he was speaking from experience. You'd think that swingers parties would have an extra special need for harassment policies just on the basis that there's a bunch of horny naked people walking around stroking their dicks/pussies, but whatever. I don't really have a problem with atheist conferences having them either. Go nuts.

Actually, speaking from experience, swingers clubs are all about the women being in charge. I've never been read a harassment policy at one. The main rule is... "the women are in charge". Oddly enough, this works very well.

I'd be worried of walking, naked, into the wrong kind of swing club. :shifty:

http://www.freewebs.com/thebigswingband ... 9_0099.jpg

[Tony Parsehole]

It's one of my fave things on TV at the mo for the soundtrack alone. I just hope it doesn't devolve into the fart-sniffing pretentious wankery of Lost with it's mountain of unanswered questions.

That's the fear - that they will just keep amping up the weird stuff and then the twist will be that really, it was the town that had been destroyed and so the living have caught up with the dead or something.

Now that wouldn't be *too* bad a twist actually. Could be much worse. My main fear of fucking it up is them introducing a time-travelling aspect like all desperate series seem to do nowadays. It heals any plot-hole and makes any loophole possible no matter how far fetched.

[CommanderTuvok]

Has anyone else noticed that Ophelia has finally got around to putting up a post (a copy and paste with a few lines added from herself), "discussing" the Wired article? This is AGES after everybody else remarked on it!

It is essentially her opening the door for her rabid acolytes to have another stab at Dawkins. Hey, I guess it's a slow news day, after all.

Boy, are they STILL majorly butthurt about not getting their "apology". Personally, if I was Dawkins, I'd tell Rebecca and all the other Baboons to go and fuck themselves - HARD.

[Scented Nectar]

It was a damn good animation considering you never used Paint.Net before. How did you do it?

Thanks!
- (in PaintShop Pro) I found a photo of each of them that were similar in facial expressions.
- I roughly took a clip of Tom's head and rotated it and resized it until it approx matched Amanda's.
- I made a temp clip of Amanda's head area for use later in color matching.
- (in Paint.net) I changed Tom's coloring to match the temp clip of Amanda's using the color match plugin. At first I got an error that the pic was too small so I went back into PSP and doubled the temp clip's size, and this time it worked when I went back to paint.net and color matched.
- (in PaintShop Pro) I selected Tom's face and a bit of his hair, and with a feathered brush, made a picture #2 that looked like Amanda's pic, but with Tom's face (had to also use push brush a bit to blend edges better) and name.
- (in FotoMorph) I used the Amanda picture as the starting pic, and the Tom version as the ending pic.
- I fiddled with making points that tell the program which parts of the two pics correlate.
- Told it to morph and return, then saved it as an animated gif.

I think it took me less time to do than write down! :)

[CommanderTuvok]

http://i.imgur.com/yjjCVi2.jpg

[Zenspace]

Has anyone else noticed that Ophelia has finally got around to putting up a post (a copy and paste with a few lines added from herself), "discussing" the Wired article? This is AGES after everybody else remarked on it!

It is essentially her opening the door for her rabid acolytes to have another stab at Dawkins. Hey, I guess it's a slow news day, after all.

Boy, are they STILL majorly butthurt about not getting their "apology". Personally, if I was Dawkins, I'd tell Rebecca and all the other Baboons to go and fuck themselves - HARD.

Not a chance. Dawkins is doing exactly the right thing - ignoring them entirely. :clap:

[Tony Parsehole]

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

[CommanderTuvok]

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

Tony, you're forgetting that many of the psychological defences employed by the Baboons, are the same ones that affect the religious. It is only after they have left their religion behind, that they can see the error of their ways. Same goes for the Baboons. I fear there is no hope for folk like Watson and Myers, for they are the equivalent of suicide bombers, or Fred Phelps. However, some of their less indoctrinated members could be enticed to see the light and leave the FfTB cult behind.

[Cunning Punt]

Sounds like she was heteronormatively sexualising you. And flaunting her apparelist privilege.

Nah, just your typical neurotic female. Apparently she has a "thing" about boxer shorts. Nobody else who works at the front desk has said a thing about me parading around in my skivvies.

Amazing! What happens next?

She drags him behind the reception desk and Benny Hill music plays.

[deLurch]

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

Someone should tell her about Equity Feminism. It might be more to her flavor and appears more rational.

[Ericb]

She drags him behind the reception desk and Benny Hill music plays.

Then she slips him a mickey and next finds himself in the middle of a Matt Dillahunty swingers' orgy.

[Ape+lust]

http://i.imgur.com/wSaTGje.jpg

[Ericb]

http://i.imgur.com/wSaTGje.jpg

Well, now I know what will be populating my nightmares tonight.

[Tony Parsehole]

http://i.imgur.com/wSaTGje.jpg

.................wow.

[Dick Strawkins]

EBW. Restoring my faith in humanity one tweet at a time.
How the fuck did she not see all this before though?

Tony, you're forgetting that many of the psychological defences employed by the Baboons, are the same ones that affect the religious. It is only after they have left their religion behind, that they can see the error of their ways. Same goes for the Baboons. I fear there is no hope for folk like Watson and Myers, for they are the equivalent of suicide bombers, or Fred Phelps. However, some of their less indoctrinated members could be enticed to see the light and leave the FfTB cult behind.

I detect a tingling of cognitive dissonance on their boards regarding Chris Mooney.
Mooney hasn't moved an inch towards them from his hated accomodationist position of just three years ago and yet they now find themselves all tucked up in the same bed.

What was it about Mooney that so annoyed the gnu atheists?

1. He criticised the new atheists for being extremists who used crude language and insults.
2. He claimed their behavior frightened certain under-represented groups away from the cause.
3. He supported those who claimed they had a right not to be offended.
4. He used every opportunity to complain about and criticize Richard Dawkins.

Now, like frogs brought gently to the boil, the same pharyngulites who hated Mooney for his dishonest accomodationist policies find themselves having shifted their views, an inch at a time, until they are now advocating the very same things, albeit with different targets (Mooney's accomodationism was all about getting moderate religious people onboard to bolster political support for climate change measures.)
The principle is, however, the same in both cases - compromising skeptical principles for political advantage and setting up another group of atheists as the extremist bogey-man to which hate can be directed.