Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

[cunt]

Twatson now hates CFI just as much as Peezus: http://skepchick.org/2013/06/so-much-fo ... r-inquiry/

Double Word Score. All we need is the inevitable rage tears from Marcotte, and we'll have the full Triple.

I never got a CFI membership before. Now I'm motivated to do so. :)

I hope the Skeptic Women statement signups grow as well. Watson, Zvan, Marcotte et al are probably fuming over it, now that it has over 150 signatures. Nothing gets under radical feminist's skin more than a woman who tells them "you don't speak for me."

They aren't rad-fems actually. They're just regular feminists who also happen to be hugely pompous arseholes.

I dont think they are even that. The feminists I know would shit on them for (a) being whiny entitled gits (b) portraying women as weak and needing protection from just about everything (c) shitting on other women (d) not actually doing anything and (e) crying wolf.

Maybe, but to be honest the exact definition doesn't matter so much when you factor "hugely pompous arseholes" into the equation.

[Remick]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

Yeah, the odds of her giving up a presumably paying gig for doing fuck all.... 0

[Dave]

They aren't rad-fems actually. They're just regular feminists who also happen to be hugely pompous arseholes.

I dont think they are even that. The feminists I know would shit on them for (a) being whiny entitled gits (b) portraying women as weak and needing protection from just about everything (c) shitting on other women (d) not actually doing anything and (e) crying wolf.

Maybe, but to be honest the exact definition doesn't matter so much when you factor "hugely pompous arseholes" into the equation.

Fair enough -- we are agreed on that part of the description.

[Dave2]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

I think its more likely that she just stays and becomes the recipient of putative understanding - "at least they have her on board" and that sort of thing.

[Saint N.]

It's like they're living on an island and are determined to burn all their bridges to the mainland.

Good. I hope the other a/s conventions follow TAM's example and realize that there is only so many times that you can allow these idiots to beat you over the head with their BS before you finally have to say enough is enough. the famous don addis cartoon comes to mind, just replace the cross with a plus and there you go.

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXI ... espect.gif

[Zenspace]

I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

If it is true is there anyway to get the hired muscle on the Brave Hero podcast?

"I dunno. Da boss sez go protect the chubby broad with the hipster glasses."
"I sez, okay. A job's a job"
"I gets there. All I sees is hipster glasses and chubby broads. I gots no idea who Ise supposed to cover"
"Oh and Ron Jeremy was there. He was real nice. Just hung out with his mom the whole time"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, you guys are in a dead heat for the funniest comment of the day. Gefan, thanks for the above. You are in a tie with Mykeru for his line:

"meaner than Stephanie Zvan and Ophelia Benson in a three-way with a cheese grater."

[Lsuoma]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

LOLs will be had at the Pit.

[Metalogic42]

Snagged EllenBeth Wachs for Saturday at noon EST on Chill Girls in Pink Corvettes. I'm putting this out here now so if you have any questions you feel are important to ask, pass them on to me. I am *not* going to make EllenBeth feel "on the spot" in any way so please ensure you posit your questions accordingly. This is a woman who's had to deal with a lot of shit in a very short space of time and I'm going to be accommodating to ensure she does not feel pressured or vilified in any way, shape, or form. Just an FYI :)

I'd be interested in what her current/future plans are re: activism. Also, as per above, skepticism > atheism is a good and semi-related topic.

[Gefan]

What the fuck? I've seen Myers called a lot of names here, but never "unmanly"? Do these assholes just make it up as they go along?

Umm, yes, they do.

But maybe they were lurking at the Jesse Powell Def Jam, where Gefan contrasted Peez unfavorably with a certain bodybuilder/movie star:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=313&start=75#p98281

and where I implied Peez belonged in a bachelor herd while a more fit stallion mounted all the mares.

I even found that stream boring, and I was in the thick of it! If the Ftbs are lurking there, they seriously need to get a life.

Well, if that thread wasted a few minutes of baboon time in addition to all the hours that I'm never going to get back, then at least it achieved something.

[bhoytony]

Just imagine, Melody Hensley, flanked by two massive bruisers in suits to protect her from.......Justin Vacula. Oh my god.....My SIDES!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

So, basically we are just imagining three massive bruisers?

[Mykeru]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

Yeah, the odds of her giving up a presumably paying gig for doing fuck all.... 0

Prediction: Melody will hang onto her gig like a dung beetle on shit and pretend to be reasonable as best she can, which is to say badly, however, the idea of "bygones being bygones" will suddenly replace her original motto of "bitch-blood vengeance for all slights".

[Lsuoma]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

I think its more likely that she just stays and becomes the recipient of putative understanding - "at least they have her on board" and that sort of thing.

I don't think so. If she doesn't dance to the tune that Twatson, The Huge Zvanatee, Feefles and the rest are playing, she will have to be uddered othered and cast into the outer darkness. There is no compromise with the demons of Skepshittery and the FTBtards.

[Remick]

Maybe CFI should consider hiring AJ Johnson in Melody's place

I would like to see if Ellenbeth Wachs finds some new opportunities, because she may be the most deserving person right now.

You see, I don't care if she's on "our side" or not. She probably isn't. I'm sure there are a lot of things regarding feminism that we would disagree on, especially that we are all a pit of "anti-woman" sentiment. And I wonder after all this, if her opinion of Rebecca Watson and her claims of death and rape threats has changed from the time she promoted Watson at the Humanists of Florida conference.

However, whatever differences and disagreements:

She just did what skeptics do and then some. It's easy to come in from the outside and realize that that dude selling dowsing rods is full of crap, but to extricate yourself from the inside of that bubble, when so much of your support, your relationships, your ability to network and with the sword of character assassination dangling over your head is extremely difficult. When stuck in an insular little echo chamber like Freethought Blogs, even doing a little basic research into claims is hard enough because the lies are continuously shouted in your face. And then you have the thankless job of speaking truth to power and being "shut down" by thin-skinned malicious little blog despots.

I'm sure there are a lot of people in that clique that realize their Jungles of Guyana is not a paradise and the Kool-Aid is poisoned, but just go along, or even up their surface fanaticism, simply out of fear and spinelessness.

Really, I've actually sat and thought about what a totalizing little system they have created where vindictiveness and retribution is the reward for slights small and imagined, and thought about how hard it must be to tell them all to just go fuck themselves and then stand strong when the lies and misrepresentations and high-school level politics of personal destruction come into play.

What EllenBeth has done has got to be worth some solid gold karma points

Well said. /agree

[ReneeHendricks]

Snagged EllenBeth Wachs for Saturday at noon EST on Chill Girls in Pink Corvettes. I'm putting this out here now so if you have any questions you feel are important to ask, pass them on to me. I am *not* going to make EllenBeth feel "on the spot" in any way so please ensure you posit your questions accordingly. This is a woman who's had to deal with a lot of shit in a very short space of time and I'm going to be accommodating to ensure she does not feel pressured or vilified in any way, shape, or form. Just an FYI :)

I'd be interested in what her current/future plans are re: activism. Also, as per above, skepticism > atheism is a good and semi-related topic.

Copied and saved in my newly created file :D Thanks!

[codelette]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

I think its more likely that she just stays and becomes the recipient of putative understanding - "at least they have her on board" and that sort of thing.

I don't think so. If she doesn't dance to the tune that Twatson, The Huge Zvanatee, Feefles and the rest are playing, she will have to be uddered othered and cast into the outer darkness. There is no compromise with the demons of Skepshittery and the FTBtards.

Hmmm, I don't know if any of you remember that Melody received the irrational fury of the horde like a year or so ago. I believe she was trying to give a non-FTB approved opinion regarding CFI.

[jjbinx007]

https://twitter.com/MrAtheistPants

Dave Silverman is currently arguing with Richard Reed (formerly Mr Y U NO?) about people being anonymous on the internet.

He ended with this interesting tweet:

[Dave2]

I don't think so. If she doesn't dance to the tune that Twatson, The Huge Zvanatee, Feefles and the rest are playing, she will have to be uddered othered and cast into the outer darkness. There is no compromise with the demons of Skepshittery and the FTBtards.

Well I'll stand to be corrected, but I think they are capable of looking the other way when it comes to known allies and that. I thought that Matt Dillahunty's bust up with A+ might have produced more fireworks than it did - and ultimately I think that that's down to them feeling confident about what side he's ultimately on. They haven't visibly had Aron Ra or ZOMGitz over the fire for being pally with Thunderf00t. PZ's still careful to give Dawkins the occasional bit of credit despite the "rift".

I would have thought that if Melody admitted on the backchannels that Ron should have been more contrite and how sorry she is about the whole thing they'll not go after her personally, though they'll still rag on CFI as an institution.

But - their ability to cause a kerfuffle has amazed me before - so I may well be wrong.

[jjbinx007]

OK so would this work the other way around? They have to justify THEIR shit and "But Slymepit did it too!" is NOT a defence.

[Mykeru]

I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

If it is true is there anyway to get the hired muscle on the Brave Hero podcast?

"I dunno. Da boss sez go protect the chubby broad with the hipster glasses."
"I sez, okay. A job's a job"
"I gets there. All I sees is hipster glasses and chubby broads. I gots no idea who Ise supposed to cover"
"Oh and Ron Jeremy was there. He was real nice. Just hung out with his mom the whole time"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, you guys are in a dead heat for the funniest comment of the day. Gefan, thanks for the above. You are in a tie with Mykeru for his line:

"meaner than Stephanie Zvan and Ophelia Benson in a three-way with a cheese grater."

Nope, it goes to Gefan. It's not even close. His shit was high-octane Lulz.

[Tony Parsehole]

https://twitter.com/MrAtheistPants

Dave Silverman is currently arguing with Richard Reed (formerly Mr Y U NO?) about people being anonymous on the internet.

He ended with this interesting tweet:

*Bangs head against desk*

Pray tell Mr Silvershite how you would know if a random person was using their real name on the internet? If you are going to demand real-sounding names that just means people will make realistic sounding psedonyms you fucking knob. Maybe they should provide a land-line telephone number? Maybe GPS positioning?

Scepticism fail.

[Tony Parsehole]

Say a person on Twitter calls themselves John Richmond, or Susan Clauston or Bill Clarke or any other "realistic" name how would anybody prove that's not their real name?

[jjbinx007]

You mean your surname is NOT Parsehole?

[Tony Parsehole]

You mean your surname is NOT Parsehole?

My full name is Clive James Benson. Prove me wrong.

[Dave]

Say a person on Twitter calls themselves John Richmond, or Susan Clauston or Bill Clarke or any other "realistic" name how would anybody prove that's not their real name?

Used to know a guy who used the moniker Andrew Lias. Often took people ages to figure out that wasnt his name.

[Tribble]

That made me laugh.

[JAB]

Just imagine, Melody Hensley, flanked by two massive bruisers in suits to protect her from.......Justin Vacula. Oh my god.....My SIDES!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

So, basically we are just imagining three massive bruisers?

As long as we're imagining, I'm going to imagine that they got the bodyguard by reassigning the big guy they hired to help out the blind guy.

[justinvacula]

It has to be said that as the first anniversary of the Pit approaches (July 3rd) the popcorn is coming thick and fast, not least because of all the effort dedicated Pitters have been undertaking.

This. 1000x this. Also, I would like to once again thank gracious donors sending me to wiscfi for the fundraiser announcement and my subsequent attendance really, I must say, certainly stirred the pot. But we didn't start the fire...and ftbullies outrage is on them.

[justinvacula]

It has to be said that as the first anniversary of the Pit approaches (July 3rd) the popcorn is coming thick and fast, not least because of all the effort dedicated Pitters have been undertaking.

This. 1000x this. Also, I would like to once again thank gracious donors sending me to wiscfi for the fundraiser announcement and my subsequent attendance really, I must say, certainly stirred the pot. But we didn't start the fire...and ftbullies outrage is on them.

[Steersman]

Lifelong feminist my arse.

http://i.imgur.com/EJ2X2Ik.png

Six years from misogynist to radfem patriarch.

You might want to consider that PZ did say that he had a sick sense of humour as a preface to his “slut” comment. And, considering that the definition of slut is “promiscuous woman” and that the “any time” comment might reasonably be construed as encompassing “promiscuous”, I at least don’t find PZ’s conclusion all that unreasonable or “misogynistic”. And I actually find it rather amusing. But if he had said something to suggest that he viewed all women as sluts or that sluts were morally reprehensible then you might have had a case. Otherwise, looks like you have your thumb on the scales.

While I will readily agree that PZ is a bit of a dickhead – notably for his comments about Marc Lepine, and for his responses to Skep tickle, I think it is important to be fair in our judgements.

[ERV]

That made me laugh.

Me too :)

Regarding 'security' for Vacula-- Im assuming the venue already had security. There was security at FreeOK2, and they actually used our space to mediate a conflict (maybe it was even a fight) at the dance competition downstairs (DANCE MOMS!!!!). My partner works security every night at a convention center, whether its hosting a Sweet 16 bash or church fundraiser or concert. Melody might have verified that the venue had security, and talked it up to her Secular Women friends/used it to keep some speakers from flouncing, when in fact, the security was scheduled all along because they are employees for the venue.

Melody exaggerating makes more sense than hiring private security (if the venue would even allow it-- private security goes rogue and the venue could be sued too).

[Rystefn]

Say a person on Twitter calls themselves John Richmond, or Susan Clauston or Bill Clarke or any other "realistic" name how would anybody prove that's not their real name?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: internet handles are no more fake names than a singer's stage name or a writer's pen name. Welcome to the 21st century. I don't give a shit if it isn't what's written on my birth certificate, Rystefn is my real name, damnit. There are more people who call me that than who call me anything else. There are exactly zero people who call me the name I was given at birth, not even my mother.

[Rystefn]

That made me laugh.

Me too :)

Regarding 'security' for Vacula-- Im assuming the venue already had security. There was security at FreeOK2, and they actually used our space to mediate a conflict (maybe it was even a fight) at the dance competition downstairs (DANCE MOMS!!!!). My partner works security every night at a convention center, whether its hosting a Sweet 16 bash or church fundraiser or concert. Melody might have verified that the venue had security, and talked it up to her Secular Women friends/used it to keep some speakers from flouncing, when in fact, the security was scheduled all along because they are employees for the venue.

Melody exaggerating makes more sense than hiring private security (if the venue would even allow it-- private security goes rogue and the venue could be sued too).

Yeah, pretty much everywhere has security on staff. They might be doing double-duty as something else+security, but if there are more than three employees in a place, I'd bet dollars to donuts at least one of them has security in their job description somewhere.

[welch]

I'm inclined to believe it because, yeah, nothing is too over the top for this bunch.

That's what trips me up. between this, dealing with pilots and 2 decades in IT, I'm a sucker for stupid, because no matter how stupid you think is too stupid, it never is.

For example, that shit about "doesn't work in the OFFicial position, (abbreviated OFF)"? That's not an urban legend. Fucking happened to me. I was barely able to stare at my compatriot with the "Sucks to be you, with more stripes than me. You have to call him a dumbass without getting in trouble, I just have to not laugh at him" look.

[welch]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

Yeah, the odds of her giving up a presumably paying gig for doing fuck all.... 0

Given her expensive tastes? Unless Dear Hubby is making major bank, she's not walking without a new gig paying more in hand.

[sacha]

Lifelong feminist my arse.

http://i.imgur.com/EJ2X2Ik.png

Or how about this post from 2008, where PZ dealt with a complaint about "sexually offensive language" in the comments:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008 ... presiding/

myersjudgment.png

Intent is magic?

And using a gendered slur is okay if the commenter is wearing a fedora and sunglasses? :think:

This is the best one yet.

[welch]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

Yeah, the odds of her giving up a presumably paying gig for doing fuck all.... 0

Prediction: Melody will hang onto her gig like a dung beetle on shit and pretend to be reasonable as best she can, which is to say badly, however, the idea of "bygones being bygones" will suddenly replace her original motto of "bitch-blood vengeance for all slights".

Given that Ron is staying, I predict a very direct conversation between he and her that will lay down the law regarding what her authority actually is in no uncertain terms with a "if that is not acceptable, well, its been nice working with you" at the end of it. A failed power play rarely ends well.

[Dave2]

You might want to consider that PZ did say that he had a sick sense of humour as a preface to his “slut” comment. And, considering that the definition of slut is “promiscuous woman” and that the “any time” comment might reasonably be construed as encompassing “promiscuous”, I at least don’t find PZ’s conclusion all that unreasonable or “misogynistic”. And I actually find it rather amusing. But if he had said something to suggest that he viewed all women as sluts or that sluts were morally reprehensible then you might have had a case. Otherwise, looks like you have your thumb on the scales.

Presumably part of the point is that where someone other than PZ makes the same sort of quip in the present day they would likely be deemed misogynistic by those PZ increasingly relies on for patronage, and the sort of rationale you illustrate here - whilst it's fair in and of itself - would be deconstructed as malicious or ignorant blethers.

I thought PZs "Dove and Rape" quip was entirely innocent - if a bit awkward. It's not that these remarks are problematic - it's that if someone else made them they would be viewed with a total lack of charity by those who look the other way when PZ does it.

Including PZ himself, it seems.

But - meh - teaching you to suck eggs.

[AndrewV69]

Someone is just begging for it I see:

[Jan Steen]

Steffy Zvan is pontificating that something is badly written, without noticing that her own statement is so badly written that it resembles a Korean to English Google translation. Her self-awareness is almost as rudimentary as that of Nerd of Redhead, the champion of minimal self-awareness.

doublereed @18:

I feel sorry for the person who was told to write this.

This is so badly written that it’s highly likely it was written by the person whose brilliant idea it was. I feel sorry for all the people who would never have written it who have had to see this statement go out under the name of the organization they’ve put so much into.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... statement/

[Dave]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

Yeah, the odds of her giving up a presumably paying gig for doing fuck all.... 0

Prediction: Melody will hang onto her gig like a dung beetle on shit and pretend to be reasonable as best she can, which is to say badly, however, the idea of "bygones being bygones" will suddenly replace her original motto of "bitch-blood vengeance for all slights".

Given that Ron is staying, I predict a very direct conversation between he and her that will lay down the law regarding what her authority actually is in no uncertain terms with a "if that is not acceptable, well, its been nice working with you" at the end of it. A failed power play rarely ends well.

I dont know -- some managers are remarkably passive-aggressive. I dont know Ron, so I dont know if he is or isnt. I would tend to think he isnt, those who arent tend to be more successful, but there are more exceptions than you would think: Im often surprised to find passive-aggressive shits in C-suite positions.

[Walter Ego]

Snagged EllenBeth Wachs for Saturday at noon EST on Chill Girls in Pink Corvettes. I'm putting this out here now so if you have any questions you feel are important to ask, pass them on to me. I am *not* going to make EllenBeth feel "on the spot" in any way so please ensure you posit your questions accordingly. This is a woman who's had to deal with a lot of shit in a very short space of time and I'm going to be accommodating to ensure she does not feel pressured or vilified in any way, shape, or form. Just an FYI :)

I haven't been keeping up with the pit for about the last six months (illness and other issues). Could someone update me on EllenBeth’s situation?

I don’t have any questions for her. Just tell her Walter Ego says hello.

[Rystefn]

Steffy Zvan is pontificating that something is badly written, without noticing that her own statement is so badly written that it resembles a Korean to English Google translation. Her self-awareness is almost as rudimentary as that of Nerd of Redhead, the champion of minimal self-awareness.

doublereed @18:

I feel sorry for the person who was told to write this.

This is so badly written that it’s highly likely it was written by the person whose brilliant idea it was. I feel sorry for all the people who would never have written it who have had to see this statement go out under the name of the organization they’ve put so much into.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... statement/

I though it was a masterfully-written piece of empty corp-speak. The hilarity of a statement criticizing someone else's writing that includes the word "written" three times in two sentences, four instances of the "the be" verb in a single sentence, and a 33-word sentence with no internal punctuation cannot be overstated. The fact that it ends on a preposition is icing. Honestly, it almost looks like someone trying to deliberately write badly as a joke... but knowing the source, I rather suspect she actually thinks her commentary was glowing prose that would echo through the ages.

[Altair]

My favorite part of all this cfi thing is how after posting a link to the statement about WiS2, the next 7 tweets by the CFI's account have been about a haunted store, an abortion ban and sasquatchs.

While the FTB'ers are shaking in rage and writing article after article talking about withdrawing support and not sending money, the CFI is just doing their regular thing and paying no attention that. Well, publicly, at least.

I'm sure that bothers the FC(n) a lot :violin:

[Ape+lust]

Given that Ron is staying, I predict a very direct conversation between he and her that will lay down the law regarding what her authority actually is in no uncertain terms with a "if that is not acceptable, well, its been nice working with you" at the end of it. A failed power play rarely ends well.

Ron on one side, her superstar BFF on the other. What's a working girl to do?

If you are a speaker at a paid event for these organizations, cancel your appearance. If you regularly donate money to them, stop. If you work for them, look for a new job. I have a lot of friends and loved ones who currently do one, some, or all of those things, and I trust we’ll continue to be friends regardless of what happens. But I do think that continued support of CFI will send a message that it’s okay for a supposedly humanist organization to never take a stand to help the women in its community.

[Cunning Punt]

They suffer from the same Don’t Question Your Leaders delusion that the Slymepit does.

We've been Poe'd, I mean, come on.... they can't be serious, can they? Do they have any sense of irony AT ALL?

BTW, Metalogic42, I just love what you've done with your avatar. And I just bought myself a bear canister last week for a backpacking trip.

[clownshoe]

Bears repeating.... :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/eT8DB6d.jpg

[curriejean]

Someone is just begging for it I see:

3:43:

[youtube]dcLFmN7aJe0[/youtube]

[Outwest]

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.

Yeah, the odds of her giving up a presumably paying gig for doing fuck all.... 0

Given her expensive tastes? Unless Dear Hubby is making major bank, she's not walking without a new gig paying more in hand.

I see her making a "quiet exit" in the near future. Since she is the DC director, it is her responsibility to not allow any negative publicity damage the brand that is CFI. She let it go on all during the conference from people I expect that she asked to be on the platform.

[Ape+lust]

My favorite part of all this cfi thing is how after posting a link to the statement about WiS2, the next 7 tweets by the CFI's account have been about a haunted store, an abortion ban and sasquatchs.

While the FTB'ers are shaking in rage and writing article after article talking about withdrawing support and not sending money, the CFI is just doing their regular thing and paying no attention that. Well, publicly, at least.

I'm sure that bothers the FC(n) a lot :violin:

Meanwhile Marcotte, who promised a grand flounce, is tweeting about Miss Utah. C'mon lady, don't you know there's a war on?

http://i.imgur.com/SCZGJZn.png

[Whisper Walrus]

That's what trips me up. between this, dealing with pilots and 2 decades in IT, I'm a sucker for stupid, because no matter how stupid you think is too stupid, it never is.

You, sir, are a goddamn poet and mentor.

[Tony Parsehole]

Steffy Zvan is pontificating that something is badly written, without noticing that her own statement is so badly written that it resembles a Korean to English Google translation. Her self-awareness is almost as rudimentary as that of Nerd of Redhead, the champion of minimal self-awareness.

doublereed @18:

I feel sorry for the person who was told to write this.

This is so badly written that it’s highly likely it was written by the person whose brilliant idea it was. I feel sorry for all the people who would never have written it who have had to see this statement go out under the name of the organization they’ve put so much into.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... statement/

But Stephanie, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[deLurch]

Also, I would like to once again thank gracious donors sending me to wiscfi for the fundraiser announcement and my subsequent attendance really, I must say, certainly stirred the pot. But we didn't start the fire...and ftbullies outrage is on them.

On that note, are there any options for a sympathetic woman in the UK area to chaperon with you? I personally hate manufactured controversy's and I think having Karla as a witness with you at the last conference went a long way towards preventing any trumped up charges. I like you because you come across an earnest... despite being a bit naive and suffering from a bit of foot-in-mouth disease the propensity to stumble over your words when people throw heavy ass accusations at you at times.

[ERV]

Steffy Zvan is pontificating that something is badly written, without noticing that her own statement is so badly written that it resembles a Korean to English Google translation. Her self-awareness is almost as rudimentary as that of Nerd of Redhead, the champion of minimal self-awareness.

doublereed @18:

I feel sorry for the person who was told to write this.

This is so badly written that it’s highly likely it was written by the person whose brilliant idea it was. I feel sorry for all the people who would never have written it who have had to see this statement go out under the name of the organization they’ve put so much into.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... statement/

But Stephanie, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I tell you what CFI needs to do. They need to do way instain mother.

[DW Adams]

I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

If it is true is there anyway to get the hired muscle on the Brave Hero podcast?

"I dunno. Da boss sez go protect the chubby broad with the hipster glasses."
"I sez, okay. A job's a job"
"I gets there. All I sees is hipster glasses and chubby broads. I gots no idea who Ise supposed to cover"
"Oh and Ron Jeremy was there. He was real nice. Just hung out with his mom the whole time"

Hilarious! :clap:

[curriejean]

Steffy Zvan is pontificating that something is badly written, without noticing that her own statement is so badly written that it resembles a Korean to English Google translation. Her self-awareness is almost as rudimentary as that of Nerd of Redhead, the champion of minimal self-awareness.

doublereed @18:

I feel sorry for the person who was told to write this.

This is so badly written that it’s highly likely it was written by the person whose brilliant idea it was. I feel sorry for all the people who would never have written it who have had to see this statement go out under the name of the organization they’ve put so much into.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... statement/

But Stephanie, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I tell you what CFI needs to do. They need to do way instain mother.

I am truley sorry for their lots.

[AndrewV69]

I am thinking that I would like some confirmation that at least one of the usual suspects hoped that one outcome would be to replace Ron Lindsey with either Melody Hensley or Rebecca Watson.

I do not have a problem believing that they wanted Lindsey fired. I think based on what transpired that a convincing case could be made for that.

What I am really having difficulty with, is wrapping my mind around the concept that anyone could really believe that Watson or Hensley are up to the job in the first place.

[Apples]

Steffy Zvan is pontificating that something is badly written, without noticing that her own statement is so badly written that it resembles a Korean to English Google translation. Her self-awareness is almost as rudimentary as that of Nerd of Redhead, the champion of minimal self-awareness.

doublereed @18:

I feel sorry for the person who was told to write this.

This is so badly written that it’s highly likely it was written by the person whose brilliant idea it was. I feel sorry for all the people who would never have written it who have had to see this statement go out under the name of the organization they’ve put so much into.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... statement/

But Stephanie, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I tell you what CFI needs to do. They need to do way instain mother.

The thing about CFI which is another that Ron Lindsay when secular women above other issues that harassment and various conferences into.

[Cunning Punt]

I like him.

[John Greg]

So, Watson says:

... continued support of CFI will send a message that it’s okay for a supposedly humanist organization to never take a stand to help the women in its community.

The incredible exaggeration, not to mention, them-or-us scene setting, is just so fucking pathetic. Watson, grow the fuck up, leave the podium, get a fucking job, and let the adults do their jobs.

[Metalogic42]

But Stephanie, Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I tell you what CFI needs to do. They need to do way instain mother.

I am truley sorry for their lots.

I love the pit so fucking much.