Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

#31921

Tribble wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:WTF. So please help me understand. CFI holds a conference for secular women, with all women speakers except their CEO gives an opening remark where he says he isn't fond of telling people to shut up. For this, he should be fired and the organization boycotted. Instead we should support American Atheists, who are being sued for racial discrimination. But that's no big deal.

...
Pretty funny isn't it? AA, which has (from what I've read) a lot of problems beyond this allegation is 'good' in the FtB eyes because Silverman bullied Vacula a bit. CFI, which keeps the toad Hensley on staff (whom I would have fired for her divisive bullshit), is bad because Lindsay says 'Hey, if you want to have a dialog about your legitimate grievances starting off with 'shut-the-fuck-up-and-listen' might not be the best strategy to get heard.'

Get your wallets out kids, lame-o atheist memorials at WTC won't pay for themselves.

#31922

H. Korban wrote: [...]
To tell the truth, I am really, really sick of fools like PZ, Watson, Benson, Silverman et. al. trying to climb up a dung heap and smearing the rest of us with excrement. Even though these people may share the word "atheist" with me, I want absolutely no association with them and certainly do not want then to speak on my behalf. They can take their anti-scientific post-modernism, social-constructivism and identity politics and start their own extreme left-wing group of nuts. Just don't drag us into it.

I'm of like mind. Sadly, they're not.

#31923

Scented Nectar wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:For SN and sacha:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/145386539X/
Hahahahahahahaha, they call it a "lady garden"!!! I haven't heard that one in a long long time. :lol:

If the book cover is anything to go by, the secret is to keep it breezy around one's nether regions. My balcony will do fine from spring to fall, but winter's going to be a bitch!

Hence the appeal of my kilt. :mrgreen:

#31924

Ericb wrote:
John Greg wrote: [...]

It is going to be interesting to see how Melody "blind ankle" Hensley deals with this. If she stays, FfTB, Skepchick, et al will certainly turn on her and fuck her into the ground. So, I would imagine her only option, if she wants to have the appearance of maintaining integrity to her own loudly whined ideals, would be to resign.
Otherwise she will become a "Enabler of Misogyny."

At this point she's practically a Nazi guard. Since the closest historical analog to that statement by CFI is probably the holocaust.

#31925

So, now on Twitter: EBW vs Watson
Is Becky going to accuse EBW of being a harasser and a hater? That'll be funny considering that EBW gave a platform to talk about sexism and whatnot inside the "movement".

#31926

John Greg wrote:Ellenbeth Wachs has signed the Skeptic Women pledge thingy.

I have been one of the more hostile critics of EBW -- and indeed, she has said some really nasty stuff, i.e., Vacula the child raper. But I must say, like many others, her current critical thinking-based eye opener has given me much pause for thought. I am impressed.

And Oolon has really hit it out of the park this time. I find it spellbinding to watch such a pure example of outrageously dishonest thinking and balatant over-the-top cognitive dissonance.

I am also loving the kneejerk reactionary "CFI is teh True Evil" response from the horde. HAHAHAHA. Cry me a whiney river you juvenile dipshits.

It is going to be interesting to see how Melody "blind ankle" Hensley deals with this. If she stays, FfTB, Skepchick, et al will certainly turn on her and fuck her into the ground. So, I would imagine her only option, if she wants to have the appearance of maintaining integrity to her own loudly whined ideals, would be to resign.

With all the reduced donations coming in from all those rich folks in the horde, CFI may have to let someone go. I wonder who. I would say melody could try for a job at AA, since they seem to always have a bunch of new vacancies, and she's white enough even if not male enough, to match their recent hires, according to Ed 's blog mentioned above.

#31927

H. Korban wrote:We see stark signs of authoritarian belief among the Buffoon Collective. They may be atheists, but are certainly not skeptics, or, despite PhD-level education, scientific. Most of them seek an authority figure, someone who can "lay down the law", show them path to follow. Damned if the path leads to perdition or entails accepting nonsensical dogma. No matter, the horde will follow as long as there is a "leader" who fills in their need for a authority figure.

I wonder how much of it is a reaction to being worn down by the whole "atheists can't be moral" trope. I know when the A+ movement was first mooted I had two contradictory thoughts about it:

1 - This "rationality can save us all" stuff has been tried before a number of times in various guises (church of positivity, the Jacobins, various flavours of Marxist, brights, etc) and it always either falls flat or goes full on disastrous, so I'm pessimistic about this.

Juxtaposed with:

2 - Well one of the best ways to undermine the religious in argument is to point out how socially regressive a lot of their baggage is, so why not go whole hog and point out that atheism *can* better suit modern conceptions of morality than religious moral compasses tend to?

And I'm not sure how to reconcile those two notions - because pointing out that atheism isn't actually baggage with the homophobia and sexism of traditional religion seems very worthwhile - yet the A+/FTB attempt to illustrate this has led to another of the things I hate about religion - the humourless sanctimony.

#31928

Zenspace wrote:Overall, I think this is a very professional, neutral response. I predict the net result will be an explosive hissyfit in the FftB/Skepchick/Secular Woman crowd as it appears that Ronald Lindsay will continue as CEO for the time being - which is excellent news for everyone but FftB/Skepchick/Secular Woman. Lindsay is on vacation this week (according to Fidalgo). It will be interesting to see if he has any more detailed commentary when he returns. My prediction is that he will volunteer little. The real outcome will show in how relations are maintained with certain groups and individuals in the immediate future.

I think if he limits himself to coolly pointing out how preposterous some of the rhetoric aimed at him is whilst avoiding the temptation to reply in kind it'd be best for him - strategically speaking.

Guest · #31929

Maybe CFI should consider hiring AJ Johnson in Melody's place

Pilgrim · #31930

EBW has genuinely impressed me. Changing one's mind publicly is incredibly difficult and should be commended. Reminds me of Hitchen's public changing of his attitudes toward water-boarding after personally volunteering to undergo it. To purposefully seek out dis-confirming evidence and update upon it is the highest expression of rationality.

#31931

Metalogic42 wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Got lots of stuff to catch up on. For now, I present my new avatar, courtesy of Tony Parsehole.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but there's a lot wrong with that.
Much like Justin Vacula talking to AVFM at conferences, I am a man of my word.

Work seriously interferes with my quality time with the Slymepit, I am pages behind.

But goddamn Meta&Tony. lol. That avatar's the shit
I assume in the intervening pages between the quoted post and this one, Vacula surely denounced it.

#31932

treestump wrote:great stuff, I'm laughing my ass off tonight :) CFI have told them to go fuck themselves, and they STILL don't get it. It' beautiful, their idiocy is plain for all to see.

PZ: "â€œThe CFI Board wishes to express its unhappiness with the controversy surrounding the recent Women in Secularism Conference 2.â€ Jebus. Can you get any more waffly? What caused the controversy, gang?"

you did PZ, you and Stephalump, and Oafy, and RW and Becci and that fucking idiot Marcotte. By the way, I honestly think that this whole controversy that EVERYONE KNOWS THEY MANUFACTURED, was done to get RW a job in CFI. Seemed likely that they thought they could engineer that, and get their people in positions of power the dipshit fucktards. They really are pathetic, and I think this could be the beginning of the end for them. By trying to destroy Lindsay's position (YES PZ YOU DIPSHIT, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU CREATED THIS STUPID CONTROVERSY. YES, YOU, NOT RON LINDSAY) they've exposed the kind of weasly fucks that they are. I hope they all disappear like the cockroaches they are. CFI should maybe get rid of that idiot child that is in DC. She's a fucking embarrassment.

I think I'll open a nice bottle of Talisker to celebrate: FUCK YOU MYERS, YOU DUMBASS PIECE OF SHIT !
Happy Days ! :-D

Is there any other evidence for the replace Lindsay with Watson plan for CFI other than EBW's quite interesting statement?

#31933

ERV wrote:
Mykeru wrote:I was reading about the "Cheerios" mixed race ad "controversy (Read: small group of loud stupid people) and was reading BuzzFeed, who picked up a story of people forming "We are the 15%", representing people in mixed marriages. The only marriage I was ever in was mixed.
Incidentally, girls also saw the Cheerios commercial on Hulu a while back. Didnt bat an eyelash at white mom/black dad. They thought it was fucking hysterical (they normally hate Hulu commercials).

Thats just how we roll in mah KKK house.

It was a totally standard commercial: Cute kid, wise and knowing mom, clueless dad sacked out on the couch. There's absolutely nothing to concern anyone except for the interracial "white chick/black dick" porn loop now on continuous play in some asshole's heads. One can only hope that the generation alive before Loving vs VA that is still bothered by this will just die the fuck off.

Of course, as I pointed out, in that photo it's the black woman who is my blood relation, so obviously my family loves nothing better than a bed-sheeted nature outing as well.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets ... allery.jpg

David Silverman is a mired-in shit snake-oil salesman. I've Tweeted at him a few times asking when he was going to apologize, but he's been ignoring me. Might be time for us to step up our game.

#31934

Parody Accountant wrote:
Walter Ego wrote:
Aneris wrote:Ellen Beth Wachs comes out clean. Resigns Secular Women, and lights a bit behind the scenes. Evil Stephanie Zvan comes out as expected.

Ellen Beth Wachs wrote:When I was viciously attacked on the Pharyngula thread, I posted in the support group asking for help. With that knowledge, Stephanie Zvan, shut me down cold stating in no uncertain terms that I was not to bring that issue to that group. In other words, the group was only for support for when OTHERS i.e slymepitters attacked. I abided by her request but another member opened the thread up for discussion. Stephanie also came onto the Pharyngula thread and tried to shut me down there.
Even though I disliked some of her stuff in the past, too, she got my support (whatever that means).
EllenBeth and I were cat fighting last year but we kissed and made up. She's probably quite likeable in real life.
I know you probably hate the shit out of me, but I'm so glad you said this. I bet you're quite likable in real life. :)

No, I don't hate the shit out of you and no I'm not very likeable in real life.

#31935

Or on youtube.

#31936

Ericb wrote:So does this make the CFI the moral equivalent of the KKK?

Of course. It will probably catch on as a new noun for the Pit too. It beats the usual boring accusation of being MRA's after all and avoids a Goodwin.

As to Silverman, I fully expect him to denounce all the accusations made against AA. If he does not, on demand, then he must agree with them in full.

One day all these people will get in their heads that taking the moral high ground will always backfire. Nugent tried it, Oolon tries it and Zvan does it in her sleep. It just makes them look silly.

#31937

Whig wrote:
treestump wrote:great stuff, I'm laughing my ass off tonight :) CFI have told them to go fuck themselves, and they STILL don't get it. It' beautiful, their idiocy is plain for all to see.

PZ: "â€œThe CFI Board wishes to express its unhappiness with the controversy surrounding the recent Women in Secularism Conference 2.â€ Jebus. Can you get any more waffly? What caused the controversy, gang?"

you did PZ, you and Stephalump, and Oafy, and RW and Becci and that fucking idiot Marcotte. By the way, I honestly think that this whole controversy that EVERYONE KNOWS THEY MANUFACTURED, was done to get RW a job in CFI. Seemed likely that they thought they could engineer that, and get their people in positions of power the dipshit fucktards. They really are pathetic, and I think this could be the beginning of the end for them. By trying to destroy Lindsay's position (YES PZ YOU DIPSHIT, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU CREATED THIS STUPID CONTROVERSY. YES, YOU, NOT RON LINDSAY) they've exposed the kind of weasly fucks that they are. I hope they all disappear like the cockroaches they are. CFI should maybe get rid of that idiot child that is in DC. She's a fucking embarrassment.

I think I'll open a nice bottle of Talisker to celebrate: FUCK YOU MYERS, YOU DUMBASS PIECE OF SHIT !
Happy Days ! :-D
Is there any other evidence for the replace Lindsay with Watson plan for CFI other than EBW's quite interesting statement?

none that I know of, it was just a feeling I got, and probably a few other people, about a week after it happened because a) I noticed that RW had completely stopped all blog posts (which was unusual as she's a right egotistical fuck) and it almost seemed like she was deliberately being quiet, and b) I'd heard some rumours that they were trying to get Becci (oh, I said RW *and* Becci above, I meant RW and Jen McCreight etc). Very strong chance that they never intending to engineer a position for RW, *BUT* I would not put that past them, and in fact it seems very like the seedy cockroach shit that they *would* do. But ultimately it's immaterial. They have shown themselves to be utterly despicable human beings, trying to mess with Lindsay / Grothe and many others careers, creating massive bullshit controversies out of nothing, being dishonest, pathetic, and complete scumbags. Reading the comments on PZ's site is so enjoyable. I am flush with joy :) The butthurt is amazing, and man, the dumb things they say "really? they really don't understand what the controversy is !?!?!?". no, you dumb shits, everyone *understands* the controversy, everyone always did: you created a bullshit manufactured controversy to get Lindsay fired (and maybe to try and get more of your own in there) and CFI have basically sent a simple statement to make it clear that they fucking hate you all. Nice letter by Philosophia at 74. No doubt piece of shit Myers will take that down as soon as he sees it.

What did EBW say to indicate this, I didn't see that?

#31938

Jack wrote:One day all these people will get in their heads that taking the moral high ground will always backfire. Nugent tried it, Oolon tries it and Zvan does it in her sleep. It just makes them look silly.

I don't mind people taking the moral high ground provided they take a quick hike in the foothills.

It's when the moral equivalent of Sir Edmund Hillary starts opining about the state of things that I feel it's all getting futile.

#31939

Pilgrim wrote:EBW has genuinely impressed me. Changing one's mind publicly is incredibly difficult and should be commended. Reminds me of Hitchen's public changing of his attitudes toward water-boarding after personally volunteering to undergo it. To purposefully seek out dis-confirming evidence and update upon it is the highest expression of rationality.

I really don't think EBW has changed her mind, at least not overall. What has happened is that she has experienced what many of us here have from a certain sector and has come to the realization that none of us here were lying about what were were discussing. She's realized that if she ventures out of the hive, for even a moment, she's fresh meat for the kill.

#31940

Dave2 wrote:
Zenspace wrote:Overall, I think this is a very professional, neutral response. I predict the net result will be an explosive hissyfit in the FftB/Skepchick/Secular Woman crowd as it appears that Ronald Lindsay will continue as CEO for the time being - which is excellent news for everyone but FftB/Skepchick/Secular Woman. Lindsay is on vacation this week (according to Fidalgo). It will be interesting to see if he has any more detailed commentary when he returns. My prediction is that he will volunteer little. The real outcome will show in how relations are maintained with certain groups and individuals in the immediate future.
I think if he limits himself to coolly pointing out how preposterous some of the rhetoric aimed at him is whilst avoiding the temptation to reply in kind it'd be best for him - strategically speaking.

He is smart enough to not repeat his 'shoot from the hip response' to RW. That was his only real slip up in the whole mess. Strategically, it is good to know when NOT to respond and I think in this case that is really the best course. Responding publicly on any level often enables the attacker. That is the beauty of the official CFI response. There is nothing specific to hang a complaint on - the message is only implied and it actually says very little.

Shrugging off an attack and letting it disappear into the ether without so much as a flinch can send a very intimidating message. At the very least, if the attacker doesn't get the pleasure of a response, they are much less likely to do it again, as it it is seen as wasting their time. As much as I would love to have Lindsay expound at length on the experience, I would strongly advise that he doesn't and I don't expect him to.

What will happen is a quietly declining interaction between CFI and certain overly aggressive and disingenuous individuals and groups. Not to mention any names, of course. 8-)

#31941

From the comments at Phryngula:

Thatâ€™s it? That is the entirety of what they wrote? They received piles of letters that were pages long and thatâ€™s what they came up with?

Rarely have I seen such exceeding ignorance of organizations, fuck of the real world. What? Did they expect a personal reply addressing each of their letters? These people are stunningly clueless.

#31942

I think that is actually pretty common. Saying you want â€œdiversityâ€ is good PR, makes you seem like good guys. Diversity entirely for the sake of looking good. Of drawing in a larger market. They donâ€™t actually want different viewpoints, donâ€™t actually care about womenâ€™s issues, donâ€™t actually care about LBGT issues, donâ€™t actually care about racial issues, donâ€™t actually about religious discrimination. They will pretend they care, but they donâ€™t because they donâ€™t see notable benefits to themselves or their bottom line, and thatâ€™s all they really care about.

This non-profit charity organisation only cares about the bottom line!!!

Mikelf unplugged · #31943

Dave2 wrote:
Zenspace wrote:Overall, I think this is a very professional, neutral response. I predict the net result will be an explosive hissyfit in the FftB/Skepchick/Secular Woman crowd as it appears that Ronald Lindsay will continue as CEO for the time being - which is excellent news for everyone but FftB/Skepchick/Secular Woman. Lindsay is on vacation this week (according to Fidalgo). It will be interesting to see if he has any more detailed commentary when he returns. My prediction is that he will volunteer little. The real outcome will show in how relations are maintained with certain groups and individuals in the immediate future.
I think if he limits himself to coolly pointing out how preposterous some of the rhetoric aimed at him is whilst avoiding the temptation to reply in kind it'd be best for him - strategically speaking.

He has already won. There is no need to respond at all, because there is nothing to gain by doing so. He should just get on with business and let the children have their tantrum.

#31944

Dave wrote:From the comments at Phryngula:
Thatâ€™s it? That is the entirety of what they wrote? They received piles of letters that were pages long and thatâ€™s what they came up with?
Rarely have I seen such exceeding ignorance of organizations, fuck of the real world. What? Did they expect a personal reply addressing each of their letters? These people are stunningly clueless.

Entitlement culture which is really what you are dealing with in these people. They are entitled and anyone that disagrees or fails to acknowledge that entitlement is trying to rob them of what they deserve.

#31945

John Greg wrote:Ellenbeth Wachs has signed the Skeptic Women pledge thingy.

I have been one of the more hostile critics of EBW -- and indeed, she has said some really nasty stuff, i.e., Vacula the child raper. But I must say, like many others, her current critical thinking-based eye opener has given me much pause for thought. I am impressed.

She got stuck in the cult indoctrination and reinforcement cycle. I don't mean a full-on cult, but how FtB works in a social sense does have some cult-like aspects to it. (Re-education, group shunning, public shaming, demands of loyalty and orthodoxy, indoctrination, leaders doing your thinking, intolerance of non-conforming view-points.)

So, without absolving or white-washing her past behaviors, I also cut her some slack (now that she's out of it and trying to regroup) because I've seen it in action and know just how easy it is to be captured and how hard it is to get out. And while we all like to pretend 'it can't happen to us,' it can and does. So, as much as I'd like to cast stones, I cannot as I find I lack the 'moral purity' and certainty of the cultist.

And Oolon has really hit it out of the park this time. I find it spellbinding to watch such a pure example of outrageously dishonest thinking and balatant over-the-top cognitive dissonance.

Cult Indocrination & Dependency:

The member may be pressured to publicly confess sins, after which he is viciously ridiculed by the group for being evil and unworthy. He is loved again when he acknowledges that his devotion to the cult is the only thing that will bring him salvation. Once complete dependence is established, the member must retain the leader's good favor or else his life falls apart.

He's just being the whipped dog they made him. I pity him just as as I pity broken dogs and their servile cringing. I don't like him and wouldn't lift a finger to fix him as a dog gone that far needs someone who is as patient as a Saint to fix him. Sadly, while I've tried, I am not that guy as I (and the dog) found out the hard way.

I am also loving the kneejerk reactionary "CFI is teh True Evil" response from the horde. HAHAHAHA. Cry me a whiney river you juvenile dipshits.

It is going to be interesting to see how Melody "blind ankle" Hensley deals with this. If she stays, FfTB, Skepchick, et al will certainly turn on her and fuck her into the ground. So, I would imagine her only option, if she wants to have the appearance of maintaining integrity to her own loudly whined ideals, would be to resign.

Hensley is a hero. She's like a one-woman La RÃ©sistance franÃ§aise as she's fighting against their imagined Atheist Nazi enemies. Or, in Silverman's case, Atheist KKKers...

#31946

Dave wrote:From the comments at Phryngula:
Thatâ€™s it? That is the entirety of what they wrote? They received piles of letters that were pages long and thatâ€™s what they came up with?
Rarely have I seen such exceeding ignorance of organizations, fuck of the real world. What? Did they expect a personal reply addressing each of their letters? These people are stunningly clueless.

Of course not, they just expected the board, who presumably elected their current CEO, to throw him under the bus or force him to make a grovelling apology at gunpoint.

They didn't, so they obviously don't care about women.

#31947

HaHa! Anybody know if there's any truth to this claim by EBW on Twitter?

EllenBeth Wachs â€@EllenBethWachs 32m

If CFI didn't care about women, why did they honor Melody's request for unneeded security guards at WIS2 to protect against Justin Vacula?

Oh god, who listens to my prayers, please let that be true. It's too funny.

https://twitter.com/EllenBethWachs

#31948

#31949

Guest wrote:Maybe CFI should consider hiring AJ Johnson in Melody's place

I would like to see if Ellenbeth Wachs finds some new opportunities, because she may be the most deserving person right now.

You see, I don't care if she's on "our side" or not. She probably isn't. I'm sure there are a lot of things regarding feminism that we would disagree on, especially that we are all a pit of "anti-woman" sentiment. And I wonder after all this, if her opinion of Rebecca Watson and her claims of death and rape threats has changed from the time she promoted Watson at the Humanists of Florida conference.

However, whatever differences and disagreements:

She just did what skeptics do and then some. It's easy to come in from the outside and realize that that dude selling dowsing rods is full of crap, but to extricate yourself from the inside of that bubble, when so much of your support, your relationships, your ability to network and with the sword of character assassination dangling over your head is extremely difficult. When stuck in an insular little echo chamber like Freethought Blogs, even doing a little basic research into claims is hard enough because the lies are continuously shouted in your face. And then you have the thankless job of speaking truth to power and being "shut down" by thin-skinned malicious little blog despots.

I'm sure there are a lot of people in that clique that realize their Jungles of Guyana is not a paradise and the Kool-Aid is poisoned, but just go along, or even up their surface fanaticism, simply out of fear and spinelessness.

Really, I've actually sat and thought about what a totalizing little system they have created where vindictiveness and retribution is the reward for slights small and imagined, and thought about how hard it must be to tell them all to just go fuck themselves and then stand strong when the lies and misrepresentations and high-school level politics of personal destruction come into play.

What EllenBeth has done has got to be worth some solid gold karma points

#31950

#31951

I wasn't even there, and still, i'm shaking with laughter.

#31952

#31953

Just imagine, Melody Hensley, flanked by two massive bruisers in suits to protect her from.......Justin Vacula. Oh my god.....My SIDES!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

#31954

If they really cared about women, they'd have shot Vacula on sight.

#31955

Hunt wrote:It would be great to collect all these together, hire a vanity press and have them bound in a lovely hardback. "The Collected Works of PZ Myers Misogyny." I'm sure that would violate about ten copyright laws, but I can dream, can't I?

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r69 ... d15cb5.jpg

You're not the only one.

#31956

Tony Parsehole wrote:Just imagine, Melody Hensley, flanked by two massive bruisers in suits to protect her from.......Justin Vacula. Oh my god.....My SIDES!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

They were worried his porn stash would lash out and grab them.

#31957

jjbinx007 wrote:

Priceless! :lol:

#31958

Mikelf unplugged wrote:He has already won. There is no need to respond at all, because there is nothing to gain by doing so. He should just get on with business and let the children have their tantrum.

By and large I agree with both Zenspace and yourself - less said the better.

However there might be an argument for monitoring the worst of the nonsense that is surely going to be aimed in his direction and - coolly - debunking it before it gets a chance to fester.

For example - if we assume Ellenbeth is exactly right about CFI being tasked with extra security on account of Justin - I think that's worth making a matter of polite and moderate public record.

Alternatively - if she's wrong about that - it's probably worth nipping it in the bud quickly before the claim earns some kind of legitimacy in terms of a thing to ridicule about CFI and their allies.

It'd be nice to think that their more ludicrous claims will eventually come back to eat them - but they have made some capital out of them with - for example - Silverman, Dillahunty et al - so whilst I agree that Ron shouldn't feel the need to engage with every complaint an occasional roundup of the more demonstrably debunkable nonsense might be a good idea.

#31959

There he is. Yeah, the fat weirdo at the back with his mum. Watch him like a hawk.

#31960

Ericb wrote:It's like they're living on an island and are determined to burn all their bridges to the mainland.

Well, may I be the first to say:

http://images.colourbox.com/thumb_COLOURBOX2648901.jpg

Yo, baboons! Need a light?

#31961

cunt wrote:If they really cared about women, they'd have shot Vacula on sight.

Mate, this is a long shot but did you by any chance ever watch the reality TV show "Pineapple Dance Studios"? Probably not but there was this singer on it called Andrew Stone who had a massively inflated opinion of himself and I remember him doing a gig flanked by two massive hulks in an old peoples home. It is absolutely legendary.
Melody is Andrew Stone.

Watch from 1 minute in.

[youtube]XrFPySyLtRo[/youtube]

#31962

welch wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Twatson now hates CFI just as much as Peezus: http://skepchick.org/2013/06/so-much-fo ... r-inquiry/
Double Word Score. All we need is the inevitable rage tears from Marcotte, and we'll have the full Triple.

I never got a CFI membership before. Now I'm motivated to do so. :)

I hope the Skeptic Women statement signups grow as well. Watson, Zvan, Marcotte et al are probably fuming over it, now that it has over 150 signatures. Nothing gets under radical feminist's skin more than a woman who tells them "you don't speak for me."

#31963

I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

#31964

Tony Parsehole wrote:
cunt wrote:If they really cared about women, they'd have shot Vacula on sight.
Mate, this is a long shot but did you by any chance ever watch the reality TV show "Pineapple Dance Studios"? Probably not but there was this singer on it called Andrew Stone who had a massively inflated opinion of himself and I remember him doing a gig flanked by two massive hulks in an old peoples home. It is absolutely legendary.
Melody is Andrew Stone.

Watch from 1 minute in.

[youtube]XrFPySyLtRo[/youtube]

Right George. Edit out all the bits where the old fuckers unplug their life support.

#31965

Ericb wrote:
H. Korban wrote: [...]
To tell the truth, I am really, really sick of fools like PZ, Watson, Benson, Silverman et. al. trying to climb up a dung heap and smearing the rest of us with excrement. Even though these people may share the word "atheist" with me, I want absolutely no association with them and certainly do not want then to speak on my behalf. They can take their anti-scientific post-modernism, social-constructivism and identity politics and start their own extreme left-wing group of nuts. Just don't drag us into it.

They should found a new movement called Post-Skepticism.

Parallel-Skepticism?

#31966

Tony Parsehole wrote:I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

Would love to have this verified from another source.

#31967

Stretchycheese wrote:
welch wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Twatson now hates CFI just as much as Peezus: http://skepchick.org/2013/06/so-much-fo ... r-inquiry/
Double Word Score. All we need is the inevitable rage tears from Marcotte, and we'll have the full Triple.
I never got a CFI membership before. Now I'm motivated to do so. :)

I hope the Skeptic Women statement signups grow as well. Watson, Zvan, Marcotte et al are probably fuming over it, now that it has over 150 signatures. Nothing gets under radical feminist's skin more than a woman who tells them "you don't speak for me."

They aren't rad-fems actually. They're just regular feminists who also happen to be hugely pompous arseholes.

#31968

jjbinx007 wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

Would love to have this verified from another source.

MMmmmmm.....I want to believe it but it is just hearsay at the moment. I wonder if JV can shed anymore light on this?

#31969

Tony Parsehole wrote:I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.

If it is true is there anyway to get the hired muscle on the Brave Hero podcast?

"I dunno. Da boss sez go protect the chubby broad with the hipster glasses."
"I sez, okay. A job's a job"
"I gets there. All I sees is hipster glasses and chubby broads. I gots no idea who Ise supposed to cover"
"Oh and Ron Jeremy was there. He was real nice. Just hung out with his mom the whole time"

#31970

I'm inclined to believe it because, yeah, nothing is too over the top for this bunch.

#31971

Mykeru wrote:
ERV wrote:
Mykeru wrote:I was reading about the "Cheerios" mixed race ad "controversy (Read: small group of loud stupid people) and was reading BuzzFeed, who picked up a story of people forming "We are the 15%", representing people in mixed marriages. The only marriage I was ever in was mixed.
Incidentally, girls also saw the Cheerios commercial on Hulu a while back. Didnt bat an eyelash at white mom/black dad. They thought it was fucking hysterical (they normally hate Hulu commercials).

Thats just how we roll in mah KKK house.
It was a totally standard commercial: Cute kid, wise and knowing mom, clueless dad sacked out on the couch. There's absolutely nothing to concern anyone except for the interracial "white chick/black dick" porn loop now on continuous play in some asshole's heads. One can only hope that the generation alive before Loving vs VA that is still bothered by this will just die the fuck off.

Of course, as I pointed out, in that photo it's the black woman who is my blood relation, so obviously my family loves nothing better than a bed-sheeted nature outing as well.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets ... allery.jpg

David Silverman is a mired-in shit snake-oil salesman. I've Tweeted at him a few times asking when he was going to apologize, but he's been ignoring me. Might be time for us to step up our game.

A current trope floating around here is that skepticism is more important than atheism. I want that pushed, hard. As far as I'm concerned, his loud mouth and refusal to apologize take a backseat to "I don't need to provide examples".

#31972

Snagged EllenBeth Wachs for Saturday at noon EST on Chill Girls in Pink Corvettes. I'm putting this out here now so if you have any questions you feel are important to ask, pass them on to me. I am *not* going to make EllenBeth feel "on the spot" in any way so please ensure you posit your questions accordingly. This is a woman who's had to deal with a lot of shit in a very short space of time and I'm going to be accommodating to ensure she does not feel pressured or vilified in any way, shape, or form. Just an FYI :)

#31973

cunt wrote:
Stretchycheese wrote:
welch wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Twatson now hates CFI just as much as Peezus: http://skepchick.org/2013/06/so-much-fo ... r-inquiry/
Double Word Score. All we need is the inevitable rage tears from Marcotte, and we'll have the full Triple.
I never got a CFI membership before. Now I'm motivated to do so. :)

I hope the Skeptic Women statement signups grow as well. Watson, Zvan, Marcotte et al are probably fuming over it, now that it has over 150 signatures. Nothing gets under radical feminist's skin more than a woman who tells them "you don't speak for me."
They aren't rad-fems actually. They're just regular feminists who also happen to be hugely pompous arseholes.

I dont think they are even that. The feminists I know would shit on them for (a) being whiny entitled gits (b) portraying women as weak and needing protection from just about everything (c) shitting on other women (d) not actually doing anything and (e) crying wolf.

#31974

We are talking about Melodramatic Hensley here; of course they had to get her bodyguards...

So, if Melody resigns; will her bitch resign as well?

#31975

Gefan wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:I have a feeling the bodyguards claim is too good to be true.
If it is true is there anyway to get the hired muscle on the Brave Hero podcast?

"I dunno. Da boss sez go protect the chubby broad with the hipster glasses."
"I sez, okay. A job's a job"
"I gets there. All I sees is hipster glasses and chubby broads. I gots no idea who Ise supposed to cover"
"Oh and Ron Jeremy was there. He was real nice. Just hung out with his mom the whole time"

Haha. Nice one Gefan. You know you're dealing with vicious hired-thugs when they use the word "Ise".

#31976

Cunning Punt wrote:What the fuck? I've seen Myers called a lot of names here, but never "unmanly"? Do these assholes just make it up as they go along?

Umm, yes, they do.

But maybe they were lurking at the Jesse Powell Def Jam, where Gefan contrasted Peez unfavorably with a certain bodybuilder/movie star:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=313&start=75#p98281

and where I implied Peez belonged in a bachelor herd while a more fit stallion mounted all the mares.

I even found that stream boring, and I was in the thick of it! If the Ftbs are lurking there, they seriously need to get a life.

#31977

cunt wrote:I'm inclined to believe it because, yeah, nothing is too over the top for this bunch.

That's my reasoning but I don't want to get my hopes up.

#31978

ReneeHendricks wrote:Snagged EllenBeth Wachs for Saturday at noon EST on Chill Girls in Pink Corvettes. I'm putting this out here now so if you have any questions you feel are important to ask, pass them on to me. I am *not* going to make EllenBeth feel "on the spot" in any way so please ensure you posit your questions accordingly. This is a woman who's had to deal with a lot of shit in a very short space of time and I'm going to be accommodating to ensure she does not feel pressured or vilified in any way, shape, or form. Just an FYI :)

Epic.

#31979

Metalogic42 wrote:
A current trope floating around here is that skepticism is more important than atheism. I want that pushed, hard. As far as I'm concerned, his loud mouth and refusal to apologize take a backseat to "I don't need to provide examples".

Let's push away.

#31980

Predictions:
Melody won't resign.
The Skepchunks will turn on her.
Melody will see we were right all along.
Not a single fuck will be given.