If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote: Yes. I remember that. She also sent him an uninvited, sexually graphic (erect cock), sexually violent (sharp claws grabbing a penis), bestiality containing, ascii picture of a "penis bird". You see, it's totally ok when she does the type of sexual harrassment which she's always pretending people are doing to her. She included quotes of things Coffee Loving Skeptic had said in the past which she didn't like, followed by the penis bird which was her response to it - sending sexually graphic and violent imagery uninvited to someone!

I hope you're being hyperbolic there. "Violent imagery"? Really? Come on, let's not stoop to the SJW level. (and yes, I'm almost sure you are being hyperbolic).

Most certainly hyperbole, but in *their* eyes it would be. I'm sure if one of us had sent them an ASCII of a bird grasping an erect cock with its claws that they'd go straight to harassment.

jjbinx007 wrote:Feminist posts rape threats. Turns out she wrote them.

http://laramielive.com/meg-lanker-simon ... shes-post/

OOOOOooooooh.....Burn.

I love how somebody defending the actions of the woman in question makes the classic argument of "It doesn't matter if the posts were real or not it highlights rape culture"..... Must be a Dillahunty follower.

BarnOwl wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Now for a challenge: how many apostrophes can we count in this paper?

(disclosure: i think I didn't understand a word of it, beside "the" and "and". I'm dumb, like that)

Not dumb at all. Scientific papers, and meeting abstracts for that matter, have a constraining style and jargon that at times border on the shibbolethic. That's one of the reasons that I ask students in one of my graduate courses to produce some "out-of-the-box" writing for non-scientists, rather than just asking them to write yet another mock poster or mock proposal (like all my colleagues do). The pamphlets they create (directed towards patients and their families) on birth defects and genetic disorders are fantastic - I wish I could share them.

Incidentally, in the context of my extended family, I am defective in musical ability. I love music and appreciate many genres, and I'm not tone deaf, but I have no facility for music knowledge, creativity, or playing an instrument. I have minimal ability to play the piano, but only because I had years of lessons as a kid. I think the main problem is that I'm rhythmically-challenged. This is an embarrassment and a disappointment at family gatherings and other social functions at which everyone else seems to be making music spontaneously.

We must have been swapped at birth.

Tony Parsehole wrote:

jjbinx007 wrote:Feminist posts rape threats. Turns out she wrote them.

http://laramielive.com/meg-lanker-simon ... shes-post/

OOOOOooooooh.....Burn.

I love how somebody defending the actions of the woman in question makes the classic argument of "It doesn't matter if the posts were real or not it highlights rape culture"..... Must be a Dillahunty follower.

I think the proper term is pious fraud.

Interesting take on SJWism here, which the author refers to as 'Purity Leftism':

http://mattbruenig.com/2012/05/10/purity-leftism/

It does appear to explain a lot of the actual apathy we see from, for example, the A+ crowd: they talk extensively about doing stuff...but in the end, they never really seem do that much at all.

Tigzy wrote:Interesting take on SJWism here, which the author refers to as 'Purity Leftism':

http://mattbruenig.com/2012/05/10/purity-leftism/

It does appear to explain a lot of the actual apathy we see from, for example, the A+ crowd: they talk extensively about doing stuff...but in the end, they never really seem do that much at all.

Just read the first two paragraphs and already I'm hooked. Whatever happened to "If you care about the issue, cut your hair and wear a suit when you talk to people about it, so they won't be distracted by your usual get-up" mentality?

Submariner wrote:

Tigzy wrote:
I think it's more along the lines of: 'Our ideas are so wonderful and we are such good people, that pretty much all critcism is unwarranted. Therefore, those who are criticising us and our ideas aren't really criticising at all, because there is nothing to criticise. They are just bad people who are harassing us.'

Actually, after reading the link provided by D4m10n above, it's more like: advising women how to take preventative measures to minimize their chances of being raped is called "victim blaming".

but no matter what actions a woman takes in fear of shrodingers rapist is too extreme, must be understood and uncriticized by all and does not mean she is accepting victimhood

Chilly P. wrote:

Tigzy wrote:Interesting take on SJWism here, which the author refers to as 'Purity Leftism':

http://mattbruenig.com/2012/05/10/purity-leftism/

It does appear to explain a lot of the actual apathy we see from, for example, the A+ crowd: they talk extensively about doing stuff...but in the end, they never really seem do that much at all.

Just read the first two paragraphs and already I'm hooked. Whatever happened to "If you care about the issue, cut your hair and wear a suit when you talk to people about it, so they won't be distracted by your usual get-up" mentality?

What I find amusing is that the 'personal is the political' crank fringe which left-wing movements seem to attract is nothing new, despite how modern and progressive these people think they are. Orwell was moaning about them as far back as the 1930s, in The Road To Wigan Pier: "One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England."

It's almost quaint, really. Though they do generally seem to have abandoned the 'sex-maniac' bit in favour of puritanism, unfortunately.

Tigzy wrote:Interesting take on SJWism here, which the author refers to as 'Purity Leftism':

http://mattbruenig.com/2012/05/10/purity-leftism/

It does appear to explain a lot of the actual apathy we see from, for example, the A+ crowd: they talk extensively about doing stuff...but in the end, they never really seem do that much at all.

This is what really gets my goat about A+ AND FTB. They are slacktivists. Keyboard warriors. And it's one of the reasons I became so interested in this place. People who actually get out there and do things as opposed to catching a bus to uni with a backpack containing an ipod, some mace, a police baton, some soy milk, tofu and a Samsung Tab to protest a privately organised gathering. Don't forget you're bleached then dyed red hair, obligatory nose ring and ex German army jacket.

Then there's people like ERV who, you know, do stuff.

These idiots get way more attention than their worth.

Geez. Rant over. Back to cider and the GRP All Stars Live. Ahhh music in the '80's.

I really don't know how you guys manage to keep current with FTB. I've been following the comments on Vacula's 'Stephanie Szvan's Lie Machine' post (the title references one of Szvan's own titles) and my it's making my atheist soul hurt. There's an FTB type droid by the name of Doubtthat who came preloaded with all of the BS tropes about the enemy. The mindset is stupefying. This is one of shit's little gems:

Haha, nothing like splitting that hair. So you do think feminists have false impressions that Vacula needs to correct. Again, I ask you, why do you think these feminists are so ignorant that they haven't considered these issues before? People are upset at Vacula for things he's said and done. It is amazingly condescending to think that this conference is filled with women so easily manipulated.

He keeps bringing HIS spin on JV's WiS attendance into it and trying to make out that it was brought up by his opponents. He slathers around charges of condescension and arrogance, and then throws up the above polished turd. All of those feminists in opposition and critics of his friends should humbly accept that they've been outthunked by righteous FTB style geniuses.

*your

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:I really don't know how you guys manage to keep current with FTB. I've been following the comments on Vacula's 'Stephanie Szvan's Lie Machine' post (the title references one of Szvan's own titles) and my it's making my atheist soul hurt. There's an FTB type droid by the name of Doubtthat who came preloaded with all of the BS tropes about the enemy. The mindset is stupefying. This is one of shit's little gems:

Haha, nothing like splitting that hair. So you do think feminists have false impressions that Vacula needs to correct. Again, I ask you, why do you think these feminists are so ignorant that they haven't considered these issues before? People are upset at Vacula for things he's said and done. It is amazingly condescending to think that this conference is filled with women so easily manipulated.

He keeps bringing HIS spin on JV's WiS attendance into it and trying to make out that it was brought up by his opponents. He slathers around charges of condescension and arrogance, and then throws up the above polished turd. All of those feminists in opposition and critics of his friends should humbly accept that they've been outthunked by righteous FTB style geniuses.

SHIT's spin, rather. Don't know what the plumbing on this droid variant is.

* there are

*they're worth. Damned cider!

You can't name your child Anal if you live in New Zealand. Cunt isn't on the list of banned names so it appears that, for now anyway, it's still available.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/world/asi ... bynames10a

That is some weird fucking list. Why all the title bannings, like Mayor and Prince and Princess? Are they afraid people will pass themselves off as royalty? Why would they ban Lucifer and Christ but not Jesus? Because otherwise they'd have had to ban Mohammed as well?

jjbinx007 wrote:Feminist posts rape threats. Turns out she wrote them.

http://laramielive.com/meg-lanker-simon ... shes-post/

so not surprising. I wish the times women were caught with evidence against them would get more media coverage.

FrankGrimes wrote: *snip*
Don't forget your bleached then dyed red hair, obligatory nose ring and ex German army jacket.
*snipagain*

I wonder if they have those in the US (especialy the ex German army jacket). It's a bloody infestation here. I may have to call the guy with the ferrets to solve the problem.

And jokes aside, here they have a tendency to get a puppy so they will ingraciate people into giving them money while they sit on their ass juggling or playing diabolo. Once the puppy is too old to be cute, off to the shelter it goes, and they get a new puppy. I've seen this firsthand in my homeless period. And those people were mostly well-off lawyer's or doctor's kids who would go home to sleep every night.

When I think about Setar or half-fish or some others, these fuckers come to mind.

Aaaaand now I'm pissed off just remembering all that shit!

Pitchguest wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote: Yes. I remember that. She also sent him an uninvited, sexually graphic (erect cock), sexually violent (sharp claws grabbing a penis), bestiality containing, ascii picture of a "penis bird". You see, it's totally ok when she does the type of sexual harrassment which she's always pretending people are doing to her. She included quotes of things Coffee Loving Skeptic had said in the past which she didn't like, followed by the penis bird which was her response to it - sending sexually graphic and violent imagery uninvited to someone!

I hope you're being hyperbolic there. "Violent imagery"? Really? Come on, let's not stoop to the SJW level. (and yes, I'm almost sure you are being hyperbolic).

Most certainly hyperbole, but in *their* eyes it would be. I'm sure if one of us had sent them an ASCII of a bird grasping an erect cock with its claws that they'd go straight to harassment.

how about a bird with it's claws grasping a labia? what do you think their reaction would be to that? <-------rhetorical

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

FrankGrimes wrote: *snip*
Don't forget your bleached then dyed red hair, obligatory nose ring and ex German army jacket.
*snipagain*

I wonder if they have those in the US (especialy the ex German army jacket). It's a bloody infestation here. I may have to call the guy with the ferrets to solve the problem.

And jokes aside, here they have a tendency to get a puppy so they will ingraciate people into giving them money while they sit on their ass juggling or playing diabolo. Once the puppy is too old to be cute, off to the shelter it goes, and they get a new puppy. I've seen this firsthand in my homeless period. And those people were mostly well-off lawyer's or doctor's kids who would go home to sleep every night.

When I think about Setar or half-fish or some others, these fuckers come to mind.

Aaaaand now I'm pissed off just remembering all that shit!

We do have German army jacket wearers in the US. In fact I wore one when I was 20. It went well with my Joy Division t-shirt. I was taken aback when 20 years later I saw some kid clerk in a record store wearing the same getup.

sacha wrote:
how about a bird with it's claws grasping a labia? what do you think their reaction would be to that? <-------rhetorical

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Ericb wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

FrankGrimes wrote: *snip*
Don't forget your bleached then dyed red hair, obligatory nose ring and ex German army jacket.
*snipagain*

I wonder if they have those in the US (especialy the ex German army jacket). It's a bloody infestation here. I may have to call the guy with the ferrets to solve the problem.

And jokes aside, here they have a tendency to get a puppy so they will ingraciate people into giving them money while they sit on their ass juggling or playing diabolo. Once the puppy is too old to be cute, off to the shelter it goes, and they get a new puppy. I've seen this firsthand in my homeless period. And those people were mostly well-off lawyer's or doctor's kids who would go home to sleep every night.

When I think about Setar or half-fish or some others, these fuckers come to mind.

Aaaaand now I'm pissed off just remembering all that shit!

We do have German army jacket wearers in the US. In fact I wore one when I was 20. It went well with my Joy Division t-shirt. I was taken aback when 20 years later I saw some kid clerk in a record store wearing the same getup.

does German camouflage count? If so, I'm guilty

http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_image ... 836%29.JPG

Chilly P. wrote:

Tigzy wrote:Interesting take on SJWism here, which the author refers to as 'Purity Leftism':

http://mattbruenig.com/2012/05/10/purity-leftism/

It does appear to explain a lot of the actual apathy we see from, for example, the A+ crowd: they talk extensively about doing stuff...but in the end, they never really seem do that much at all.

Just read the first two paragraphs and already I'm hooked.

The first sentence got me:

One of the most frustrating things about being on the left is the profound number of clowns who situate themselves beside me.

a cunt and his iphone

H/T franc

I know the type well. It would cost him a tonne of money just to get me to listen to him for five minutes.


and yes, I'm a mac user and I have an iphone - it's the best way to have a franc sockpuppet appear to be a real person

Strawkins - your avatar keeps blinking out of the corner of my eye today.

sacha wrote:a cunt and his iphone

H/T franc

I know the type well. It would cost him a tonne of money just to get me to listen to him for five minutes.


and yes, I'm a mac user and I have an iphone - it's the best way to have a franc sockpuppet appear to be a real person

What a complete and utter cunt of the highest order.

Remaining Battery: 18 percent.
“I have two iPhones, one for day and one for the night. When the day phone runs out, the night phone takes over. I never have to worry.”

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkk.....

Submariner wrote:To Renee: Good news about your boo. Good luck!

To ERV: Congrats on the paper! I just wish I could understand more of it.

I'm Just back from my Misogynist holiday. Renee, I'm so pleased your better half stuck it out and I hope it did the job.

ERV: Can I borrow your brains please? As a male my hormones have made me mentally damaged and I need some smarts to scratch my own armpits.

Jack wrote:

Submariner wrote:To Renee: Good news about your boo. Good luck!

To ERV: Congrats on the paper! I just wish I could understand more of it.

I'm Just back from my Misogynist holiday. Renee, I'm so pleased your better half stuck it out and I hope it did the job.

ERV: Can I borrow your brains please? As a male my hormones have made me mentally damaged and I need some smarts to scratch my own armpits.

In the meantime, you made it onto Aunt Ophelia frontpage of harassment, unsubstantiated of course. She has borrowed our language now and thinks you engage in "endless repetitive smearing"

Hey ERV, is genomics in your wheelhouse?



:mrgreen:

Aneris wrote: In the meantime, you made it onto Aunt Ophelia frontpage of harassment, unsubstantiated of course. She has borrowed our language now and thinks you engage in "endless repetitive smearing"

OMG LOL .. I never click FTB links, but I thought "why not see the harassment" ... you know, like you do at a freak show when they say "come see the bearded lady"

And OMFG LMFAO LOL :)

That is one seriously fucked-up-in-the-head-please-hand-me-my-medicines-maybe-I-need-some-professional-help lady.

If she isn't actually suffering a severe psychological disorder, then she does play the part very well.

Ericb wrote:You can't name your child Anal if you live in New Zealand. Cunt isn't on the list of banned names so it appears that, for now anyway, it's still available.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/world/asi ... bynames10a

I wonder if Frodo, Bilbo and Sméagol would be allowed? given En Zed has (at least the touristy bits, in recent years) been transformed from "the land of the long white cloud", to the land of the Hobbitses.

...and before any Kiwis beat me up for being so myopic, yeah I know, you guys have sheep to fuck as well ;)

Tony Parsehole wrote:

Remaining Battery: 18 percent.
“I have two iPhones, one for day and one for the night. When the day phone runs out, the night phone takes over. I never have to worry.”

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkk.....

For some reason, this reminds me of something my Grandma used to say about her childhood on a depression-era Texas farm...."Well, see, you use a red corn cob for the first couple wipes, then a white cob to see if you need another red one!"

Both Benson and Myers are having a field day with Phyllis Schlafly's latest idiocy:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... #more-7919

But it makes as much sense to equate everyone who thinks there could be some merit to the concept of "victimization feminism" with Schlafly as it does to equate FtBers with Dworkin just because they happen to agree with her on a few points. Amazing that people who wield a concept as nuanced and craptastic as "intersectionality" utterly forfeit their brains to binary thinking the moment it suits their purpose.

Notable women’s advocate Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum explains it simply.
“The problem with feminism, I think the principal problem, is the cultivation of an attitude of victimization. Feminism tries to make women believe they are victims of an oppressive, male-dominated, patriarchal society. They wake up in the morning with a chip on their shoulder.”
Ah how familiar that sounds. I think I saw versions of it several times on Twitter alone just in the past few hours. It’s “Sisterhood of the Oppressed” and “Professional Victims” all over again – or rather, the other way around, since Schlafly has been at this since the ’70s.

That’s some stupid shit right there. Any movement for social change can be accused of that; so can any movement to resist social change. Movements to organize workers can be accused of that; campaigns to end sex trafficking can be accused of that; anything other than a bovine acceptance of whatever the status quo happens to be can be accused of that. Nevertheless it is permissible to look around you and think things could be better and try to make them better.
Being political isn’t the same thing as cultivating an attitude of victimization. Noticing ways that things could be improved is not the same thing as having a chip on your shoulder.

Correct on all counts, but unfortunately...correct on all counts. Activism doesn't necessarily entail cultivating an attitude of victimization, but then, it (or going through the motions of it) doesn't entail NOT doing that either. In all arguments like this, given the number of people involved, you have to begin with the premise that some of them WILL be engaged in the behavior you're so adamant doesn't exist. The question is how many of them are there, and how influential are they to the overall activity of the group? It's only when you've determined that they're a negligible minority that you can safely dismiss them as inconsequential.

'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

I can probably guess the answer to this question, but there hasn't been any physical incident or any in-person altercation involving Justin Vacula?

Kareem wrote:I can probably guess the answer to this question, but there hasn't been any physical incident or any in-person altercation involving Justin Vacula?

Apart from his facial hair being an assault upon everything good and decent, not that I'm aware of.

Kareem wrote:I can probably guess the answer to this question, but there hasn't been any physical incident or any in-person altercation involving Justin Vacula?

Nope, none, never, as far as the records go. Which is a bit surprising, because I would have punched in the face that asshole who pulled down Justin's xmas banner.

Say what you want about Justin, he has the patience of a saint (whoops).

On an unrelated note, I'm now reading the Science of Discworld IV: Judegment Day by Terry Pratchett, Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart. There are quite a few mentions of Richard Dawkins, but none so far of Myers, Watson, or Benson. Is it a feature, or is it a bug?

TheMudbrooker wrote:

Kareem wrote:I can probably guess the answer to this question, but there hasn't been any physical incident or any in-person altercation involving Justin Vacula?

Apart from his facial hair being an assault upon everything good and decent, not that I'm aware of.

Oh, right, the mustache...

justinvacula wrote:'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

I read about it this very morning. School of FC(n), maybe? Not implying anything... :whistle:

I will probably be driving through PA on I81 on the Memorial Day weekend.

I just want to say hear and now that I do not want Justin Vacula to approach me as drive past his town. I will not be able to drive properly if he tries to speak to me as I go down 81 at 65 mph.

Cunning Punt wrote:I will probably be driving through PA on I81 on the Memorial Day weekend.

I just want to say hear and now that I do not want Justin Vacula to approach me as drive past his town. I will not be able to drive properly if he tries to speak to me as I go down 81 at 65 mph.

You got your Jesus on the dashboard
But the Devil's under my hood
You're takin' it down legal, I'm pullin' it up to no good
God is your copilot, I let Satan ride shotgun
You pay a toll to get to Heaven
But on the road to Hell there's none


[youtube]VFn0LXERsqw[/youtube]

Aneris wrote:

Jack wrote:

Submariner wrote:To Renee: Good news about your boo. Good luck!

To ERV: Congrats on the paper! I just wish I could understand more of it.

I'm Just back from my Misogynist holiday. Renee, I'm so pleased your better half stuck it out and I hope it did the job.

ERV: Can I borrow your brains please? As a male my hormones have made me mentally damaged and I need some smarts to scratch my own armpits.

In the meantime, you made it onto Aunt Ophelia frontpage of harassment, unsubstantiated of course. She has borrowed our language now and thinks you engage in "endless repetitive smearing"

Sad really.

justinvacula wrote:'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

Competition for what?

You have some evidence or are you just peddling some innuendo?

Steersman wrote:

justinvacula wrote:'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

Competition for what?

You have some evidence or are you just peddling some innuendo?

http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Stran ... dpress.com

Haha, Ophelia's has fucking lost it. She thought she needed her own "Page o' Hate" (as a badge of honour I guess) so she made one. Sadly even her so-called "harassment" is less outrageous than her actual claims of harassment. How far down the rabbit hole do you have to go to get that loopy?

By the way, how does this translate to "harassment" in Ophie's mind?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /justy.png

On the false rape threat, apparently a FB page was set up by some supporters of Meg Lanker.

Meg Lanker-Simons is innocent we believe what she did was justified and deserves not to be held accountable for her accusations we stand behind you sister

I think this quote really gets inside the mental processes of people who live by threat narratives and victim complexes such as feminism.

When you position yourself as the never-ending victim and someone constantly under threat, you always believe your actions are justified and you should never be held accountable.

Sounds familiar.

Ericb wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:

jjbinx007 wrote:Feminist posts rape threats. Turns out she wrote them.

http://laramielive.com/meg-lanker-simon ... shes-post/

OOOOOooooooh.....Burn.

I love how somebody defending the actions of the woman in question makes the classic argument of "It doesn't matter if the posts were real or not it highlights rape culture"..... Must be a Dillahunty follower.

I think the proper term is pious fraud.

What gets me is that for years of listening to their show, I just remember Matt asking people all the time, "don't you care if your beliefs are true?" an saying that he did care. Until he doesn't. Derp.

I can't imagine why this ad came up on Ophelia's FtB blog:

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... a6b00b.png

:mrgreen:

justinvacula wrote:

Steersman wrote:

justinvacula wrote:'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

Competition for what?

You have some evidence or are you just peddling some innuendo?

http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Stran ... dpress.com

Still not proof. As we discussed here at length some time ago, one item of which was that the time interval could have been as much as 2 minutes, not the 1 on which that Phawrongula article was based. The only accusation that would appear to be bullet-proof is one that includes IP addresses - you have some of that?

Badger3k wrote:

Ericb wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:

jjbinx007 wrote:Feminist posts rape threats. Turns out she wrote them.

http://laramielive.com/meg-lanker-simon ... shes-post/

OOOOOooooooh.....Burn.

I love how somebody defending the actions of the woman in question makes the classic argument of "It doesn't matter if the posts were real or not it highlights rape culture"..... Must be a Dillahunty follower.

I think the proper term is pious fraud.

What gets me is that for years of listening to their show, I just remember Matt asking people all the time, "don't you care if your beliefs are true?" an saying that he did care. Until he doesn't. Derp.

"One sign of insufficient concern for truth is that when such people are given an opportunity to test their more cherished beliefs, they decline it, or apply it too casually, or offer defenses of the beliefs that are weaker than any that these people would accept in other contexts." - Roberts and Wood

justinvacula wrote:

Badger3k wrote:

Ericb wrote:

Tony Parsehole wrote:

jjbinx007 wrote:Feminist posts rape threats. Turns out she wrote them.

http://laramielive.com/meg-lanker-simon ... shes-post/

OOOOOooooooh.....Burn.

I love how somebody defending the actions of the woman in question makes the classic argument of "It doesn't matter if the posts were real or not it highlights rape culture"..... Must be a Dillahunty follower.

I think the proper term is pious fraud.

What gets me is that for years of listening to their show, I just remember Matt asking people all the time, "don't you care if your beliefs are true?" an saying that he did care. Until he doesn't. Derp.

"One sign of insufficient concern for truth is that when such people are given an opportunity to test their more cherished beliefs, they decline it, or apply it too casually, or offer defenses of the beliefs that are weaker than any that these people would accept in other contexts." - Roberts and Wood

Seems to me that you might also want to consider to what extent that applies to you as well. Cases in point being the accusation against Sally Strange and similar insinuations about Jason Thibeault. Seems to me that you’re a little too quick to read the worst into people’s statements and actions – I think the phrase is “political opportunist” ….

Steersman wrote:

justinvacula wrote:

Steersman wrote:

justinvacula wrote:'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

Competition for what?

You have some evidence or are you just peddling some innuendo?

http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Stran ... dpress.com

Still not proof. As we discussed here at length some time ago, one item of which was that the time interval could have been as much as 2 minutes, not the 1 on which that Phawrongula article was based. The only accusation that would appear to be bullet-proof is one that includes IP addresses - you have some of that?

Even the timestamp "evidence" is a heap of shit. If you look through the thread, she was online posting another message in the same minute as the threat was made. Not exactly surprising she'd reply immediately to it.

Page needs to be deleted.

I too came to the conclusion that it was more likely that sally strange just obsessively searches for her name in such situations like Benson et al do as well.

I didn't come to that conclusion.

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: On an unrelated note, I'm now reading the Science of Discworld IV: Judegment Day by Terry Pratchett, Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart. There are quite a few mentions of Richard Dawkins, but none so far of Myers, Watson, or Benson. Is it a feature, or is it a bug?

Terry Pratchett enforcing "The Patriarchy" by promoting his Old White Man buddies. :lol:

Alternatively perhaps it's because they're of no consequence to the world.
Yeah, I'll go for the latter.

cunt wrote:I didn't come to that conclusion.

"I too" didn't buy the self rape threat. Comment wasn't directed at anyone.

Tigzy wrote:Interesting take on SJWism here, which the author refers to as 'Purity Leftism':

http://mattbruenig.com/2012/05/10/purity-leftism/

It does appear to explain a lot of the actual apathy we see from, for example, the A+ crowd: they talk extensively about doing stuff...but in the end, they never really seem do that much at all.

That link was fantastic. I'm not sure why but these inward directed purity leftist remind me of something that the great writer Milan Kundera wrote about kitsch. I couldn't bring it up verbatim on my phone but it goes something like this : "when you see a work of art, you shed two tears. The first is for the work itself. The second tear is for yourself, that you could be so moved by such a work." The purity leftist a are kitschy.

cunt wrote:

Steersman wrote:

justinvacula wrote:

Steersman wrote:

justinvacula wrote:'Sally Strange' has some competition:

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

"Police say liberal student activist threatened herself with rape in Facebook hoax, framed conservatives"

Competition for what?

You have some evidence or are you just peddling some innuendo?

http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Stran ... dpress.com

Still not proof. As we discussed here at length some time ago, one item of which was that the time interval could have been as much as 2 minutes, not the 1 on which that Phawrongula article was based. The only accusation that would appear to be bullet-proof is one that includes IP addresses - you have some of that?

Even the timestamp "evidence" is a heap of shit. If you look through the thread, she was online posting another message in the same minute as the threat was made. Not exactly surprising she'd reply immediately to it.

Page needs to be deleted.

Agreed – although, given the Pit’s policy about deleting, maybe a retraction, at least, might be more appropriate - assuming the Pit has any responsibility for that site. Doesn’t do the credibility of the Pit any good whatsoever – which is, I think, unfortunate considering more credible values and perspectives. But there are, I think, more than a few other similar “questionable” if not fraudulent accusations that could also be pruned – for example Franc’s accusation that Myers had deleted Skep tickle’s posts in a thread of his.

d4m10n wrote:Hey ERV, is genomics in your wheelhouse?



:mrgreen:

Will McCreight be on display as a human/horse hybrid?