If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Za-zen wrote:I argue that these fuckbubbles know nothing about social justice in the first place, and i'm not arguing that they need a degree in a related subject to do so. They have a lot of bullshit ideology that they don't understand the fundamentals of, most of which is grounded in nothing other than "the world doesn't recognise my value therefore there is something wrong with the world" it's gross entitlement.

Their social justice nonsense is better descibed as "hipster politics". Void of any substance. They wouldn't pass muster in any poltical move i was ever involved in. Whiny self obsessed turds, good for nothing outside of regurgitating half baked propaganda and claims of victimhood.

Whilst they all squeee'd! Over how fabulous beyonce was at the superbowl with her sex positivism (are these people fucking blind, she's a shite singer without the tape playing, and her whole performance was an appeal to mens dicks, i'm not complaining i'm just squinting my eyes at the hypocracy) I the sexist mysoggynasty that i am, who thinks weemen should make more samwichs enjoys the voices and stories of shown below, not that any of those fuckwits could make the connection. I don't claim any other atheist has to hold my politics to share a movement with me or be a decent human being.


[youtube]GdMPWZoCep0[/youtube]

Rant over

Nice rant, but I'm really only here so that I can post more of the wonderful Kate Rusby. She's worth a dozen Beyonces. I've seen her live several times and she has a lovely warm natural personality and sings beautifully in her Barnsley accent. I'll take that over the plastic, manufactured superstar any day.

[youtube]No5FkAmTaJY[/youtube]

welch wrote: Guys, you're missing the point...think of how easy it is to wind hensley up! You don't even need twitter. She's almost monitoring this place in real-time. Fuck, this is some wonderful information and you're arguing about getting a joke or not.

They all monitor the 'Pit - what differs is the extent to which they allow what we post here to wind them up. You could make a gradient based on their 'Pit-responses alone (might make an amusing graphic). It would be funny to see what would happen if we all ceased to engage with them in their blog comments and on Twitter, and limited everything to the 'Pit. All of us, just for a week, maybe, as an experiment. See what happens to Ophelia's Twitter stream during that week, for instance.

welch wrote:New one up: http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... to-idiots/

Fuck you welch, this is about the future of the human race. I won't stand back and let you demean the efforts of our brave heroes to end this tyranny.

BarnOwl wrote:

AbsurdWalls wrote: That was sort-of obvious, it was surprising to see people jumping on it here (specifically people jumping on Ophelia for joining in with their joke).

I can see the CFIsters joking, but Ophelia has repeatedly benefitted from all-expenses-paid trips to conferences. in fact, it seems to be a way of life for her, and to me that's entitlement. You may see it differently. Clearly she has fans who think her contributions are sufficiently worthy and interesting that they're willing to pay her way.

In any case, it's not as if I'm "harassing" or "abusing" her on Twitter, or in the comments section of her blog. I don't even have a Twitter account, and I don't comment on any of the FtB blogs. If they want to come over here and read the 'Pit, roll around in the satire and mockery, and then take the scents back to the other truffle pigs, fine. But Ophelia is hardly being "jumped on."

It was obvious that Melody was joking (she and Ron both knew her schedule), but I have no reason to believe Ophelia was joking with her 'I can haz trip to Oxford?' comment. Many hours later, she tweeted, "I see what you did there. It's called MAKING A JOKE," which shows, if anything , she was admitting to missing the point of the Melody/Ron exchange. She's always scrapping for attention, or a handout, or whatever. I'll give her credit -- she'd make a competent bag-lady.

Za-zen wrote:

welch wrote:New one up: http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... to-idiots/

Fuck you welch, this is about the future of the human race. I won't stand back and let you demean the efforts of our brave heroes to end this tyranny.

Every time I've referred to "the schism" it's been in big irony quotes even Michael Nugent could hear.

welch wrote:New one up: http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... to-idiots/

It's a thing of beauty. Oh, and you mentioned my fav tipple so mucho kudos :D

Bhoytony, we're going to end up firing kate songs back and forward, and subjecting the mekins to some meat and potatoes. There is many a difference between kate and beyonce, the main one being kate is a person, bouncy is a product

Za-zen wrote:Bhoytony, we're going to end up firing kate songs back and forward, and subjecting the mekins to some meat and potatoes. There is many a difference between kate and beyonce, the main one being kate is a person, bouncy is a product

sounds like a good idea

BarnOwl wrote: I can see the CFIsters joking, but Ophelia has repeatedly benefitted from all-expenses-paid trips to conferences."

Ooh, I like it: can we call them all C-Fisters now?

BarnOwl wrote:

welch wrote: Guys, you're missing the point...think of how easy it is to wind hensley up! You don't even need twitter. She's almost monitoring this place in real-time. Fuck, this is some wonderful information and you're arguing about getting a joke or not.

They all monitor the 'Pit - what differs is the extent to which they allow what we post here to wind them up. You could make a gradient based on their 'Pit-responses alone (might make an amusing graphic). It would be funny to see what would happen if we all ceased to engage with them in their blog comments and on Twitter, and limited everything to the 'Pit. All of us, just for a week, maybe, as an experiment. See what happens to Ophelia's Twitter stream during that week, for instance.

I second this notion.

Hello, I am a retard.

Lsuoma wrote:

BarnOwl wrote: I can see the CFIsters joking, but Ophelia has repeatedly benefitted from all-expenses-paid trips to conferences."

Ooh, I like it: can we call them all C-Fisters now?

Yes. Yes, we can. Motion seconded and passed.

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

AbsurdWalls wrote:Ok, so here's a question:

There is a food factory in Ireland that produces a variety of meat products. Two of those are:

1) "beef" burgers, which are 75% of the factory's output
2) "beef" lasagnes, which are 15% of the factory's output

The output of the factory is tested by the food standards agency. Recently there has been a wave of products which were contaminated by horse meat. Of the contaminated products found, 60% were burgers and 20% were lasagnes. Assuming that every product is tested and that those tests are 100% effective, what is the probability of each product containing horse meat?

Depends. Catholic or Protestant horse meat?

"So I woke up and found a Findus lasagne in the bed. The Mafia are obviously getting lazy"

Horse sandwich, two thick fucking slices of bread. Pussies.

Cunt looks as though he's been enjoying himself in Sunday evening!

A horse cock in a baguette. You eat this now. *crams it down ur throat*

Lsuoma wrote:

BarnOwl wrote: I can see the CFIsters joking, but Ophelia has repeatedly benefitted from all-expenses-paid trips to conferences."

Ooh, I like it: can we call them all C-Fisters now?

That doesn't make sense. What would the C stand for?

Lsuoma wrote:Cunt looks as though he's been enjoying himself in Sunday evening!

http://torwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... k-Geek.jpg

Eat your boiled horse vaginas. And some bread. Nobody notice how drunk I am.

Gefan wrote: Yeah, if there's one thing that defines Ophelia Benson it's sense of humor. I'm sure anyone, unfamiliar with her satirical bent, offering her a free trip will be rebuffed with; "No! I couldn't possibly!".

The satirical bent is evident in her recent speculation about Pippi Longstocking getting the sexy treatment next: "Pippi HotStockings", "Pippi Thong", or "Pippi Pornstar"? That is some high class satire I tell you. And not at all slut-shaming.

Here, avert your eyes:
http://www.lookonline.com/stacey1.jpg

welch wrote:New one up: http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... to-idiots/

Enjoyable read and I am quite happy to call myself an idiot from time to time. In fact I do most of the time.

AndrewV69 wrote:

cunt wrote:
Nerd Of Redhead, in all sincerity asked noelplum99 to evidence his claim that he'd (noel) previously rejected the position that, I dunno, "bitches aren't shit", or something. When provided with video evidence, Nerd flat out refused to watch it and demanded a peer reviewed study. Hypothesis, he's an absolute fucking cunt.

Well, I see it as a commonality. Quite apart from Louis apparently demanding evidence from one side while apparently not requiring the same from "his" side, I believe you do not have to look too far to see examples of this type of behaviour in other individuals no matter where or which side they sit on.

The hypocrisy of course in this case is pretty obvious to us. I doubt that Nerd is introspective enough to see that he has different standards of evidence depending on who and whom. Or perhaps he does, but merely defends "his" side come hell or high water.

I am also sure that Steersman, if anyone could possibly show us an example of us doing the same. Not that I can recall any of us doing it, though "love is blind" may have something to do with it.

“Putting them on the list, putting them on the list, so that none of them will be missed!” :-)

And while the list of offenders from the benighted territories of FfTB-land is rather longer and substantially more egregious than from here, there are still a few of the latter. And while the case of franc anathematizing smilies as being used only by “reetards", in spite of using them periodically himself, only qualifies as an amusing example of shooting oneself in the feet, that an entry in his “Things Baboons Say” is entirely untrue is rather more problematic – not least for tending to discredit some of the other more credible and useful entries there.

As another case, I might refer to the “principle” and extent of “doxing”. While, as you mentioned, any two people here are likely to have at least three different and conflicting opinions on any subject, my impression is that the support that you, among others – myself included to some extent, provide for AVfM doxing several people at the U of T is somewhat inconsistent with the opinions expressed on the question of Mykeru “doxing” Creepy Bitter Girl; the Pit doing the same to Anthony K.; likewise with Laden and Mykeru, although the publication of addresses seems beyond the pale; and finally, Justin and Amy. While it is admittedly somewhat of a sticky wicket – one might wonder, for example, how we think about, say, the “doxing” of someone burning some crosses on a lawn while wearing white shirts, masks, and pointy hats – that inconsistency seems equally problematic. A useful principle might be that illegal acts remove the cloak of anonymity; presenting an anonymous persona is anything but a "get-out-of-jail-free card".

In addition, there was the recent case of SomeDumbGuy and his supposed “threats”. Again, some variation in the responses here, but some of them seem to be predicated on the perception that the threats had some credibility leading to some discussion about banning him or at least editing his comments. Yet their credibility seemed to be no more than that implied by various “threats” against Watson which virtually all and sundry here had dismissed just as Watson engaging in some “histrionics”.

Rather problematic tendency in humans in general towards “in-group morality and out-group hostility”.

I'm one of the stupidest, most pointless, people to have ever existed. Yet, I live a life of relative luxury. Even compared to kings in the middle ages. Makes you think.

Za-zen wrote: Their social justice nonsense is better descibed as "hipster politics". Void of any substance. They wouldn't pass muster in any poltical move i was ever involved in. Whiny self obsessed turds, good for nothing outside of regurgitating half baked propaganda and claims of victimhood.

Its identity politics pure and simple, and SJWs are entryists, pure and simple.

One of PZ's Baboons thinks he has PROOF that PZ does not censor!

http://i.imgur.com/1f0qM7q.jpg

What a fucking dimwit.

another lurker wrote:

BarnOwl wrote:This sounds potentially interesting:

America has a wide digital divide - high-speed Internet access is available only to those who can afford it, at prices much higher and speeds much slower in the U.S. than they are around the world. . But neither has to be the case, says Susan Crawford, former special assistant to President Obama for science, technology and innovation, and author of Captive Audience: The Telecom Industry and Monopoly Power in the New Gilded Age. On the next Moyers & Company, (check local listings), Crawford joins Bill to discuss how our government has allowed a few powerful media conglomerates to put profit ahead of the public interest - rigging the rules, raising prices, and stifling competition. As a result, Crawford says, all of us are at the mercy of the biggest business monopoly since Standard Oil in the first Gilded Age a hundred years ago. "The rich are getting gouged, the poor are very often left out, and this means that we're creating, yet again, two Americas, and deepening inequality through this communications inequality," Crawford tells Bill.

Sounds like a Merkin problem - what about elsewhere in the industrialized world? Here in the US, high-speed internet access in one's home or apartment really is a kind of privilege, and there are many people who simply can't afford it. What about the UK, Australia, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Canada, Brazil, Japan, etc.?

In Canada we have four big companies that control everything. We have the worst cell phone prices in the first world. Three year standard contracts and outrageous prices. Our big media companies are trying to force pay-per usage bills on us - whereby they cap user download allowances at a low number, and then charge customers exorbitant overage fees. The lack of competition has resulted in stagnation, rather than greater access for all.

I believe that the UK government, a few years back, forced an open marketplace on the media companies (who formerly had a stranglehold) and now, from what I understand, there is plenty of competition, and Britons have some of the best internet in the world. I could be wrong however, so, any of the Brits here can correct me...

These companies oversell their bandwidth, and rather than upgrade the infrastructure (which is really expensive) they choose to fuck customers up the ass instead.

I'm in the UK and for the equivalent of about 10 dollars a month you can get unlimited internet. There are 'fair usage' policies but they can be very generous as there is a lot of competition. I pay about 20 dollars but for that I get no lag at all and I can HD stream all day long on several computers if I wanted. So if someone can't afford the internet they certainly can't afford a computer or even be able to feed themselves. You usually get a free router when you sign up as well, although having your own one of better quality can be better.

There's also many 'hotspots' which are free but I have never tried to use them.

There's currently an upgrade going on to that mega speed as well.

BarnOwl wrote:Sounds like a Merkin problem - what about elsewhere in the industrialized world? Here in the US, high-speed internet access in one's home or apartment really is a kind of privilege, and there are many people who simply can't afford it. What about the UK, Australia, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Canada, Brazil, Japan, etc.?

What, exactly, is high-speed?

I'm currently on a decent ADSL line with something like 10/2 mbit real-life speeds, which cost something like $25/month. It's is enough for me atm, but IMO doesn't come close to what you're going to want to have in the near future. However, I also live basically in the freaking forest atm, in a very rural area of Sweden, far from anything even close to a city. They are slowly dragging real fiber to the neighboring villages, but I've yet to hear anything concerning our village (and the initial connection cost is going to be pretty brutal I suspect).

If I lived in an apartment in a town or city however, I'd expect to be able to get at least a 100/10 connection for a reasonable price.

cunt wrote:

I am also sure that Steersman, if anyone could possibly show us an example of us doing the same. Not that I can recall any of us doing it, though "love is blind" may have something to do with it.

Right, well I go too far sometimes but I like Steersman.

Thanks for the vote of confidence – tough crowd here … :-)

Mykeru wrote:Looking for a link to that video where Peezus was asked about his banhammer style, ending with him giving the most convoluted answer about his only banning people attempting to "derail" or some other such shit.

I believe it was direct linked in one of the locked threads. My search-fu could not find it.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7PprXJ-h8

Mykeru wrote:

BarnOwl wrote:

Mykeru wrote:Looking for a link to that video where Peezus was asked about his banhammer style, ending with him giving the most convoluted answer about his only banning people attempting to "derail" or some other such shit.

I believe it was direct linked in one of the locked threads. My search-fu could not find it.

This Google hang-out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7PprXJ-h8

Thank you!

Back to the editor...

Actually, this is what I was thinking of:

[youtube]jszbryanTeU[/youtube]

Check out starting about 11:20. Peez supports the use of "pseudonyms with a consistent identity". He must be very upset about my doxing, eh?

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Mykeru wrote:Looking for a link to that video where Peezus was asked about his banhammer style, ending with him giving the most convoluted answer about his only banning people attempting to "derail" or some other such shit.

I believe it was direct linked in one of the locked threads. My search-fu could not find it.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7PprXJ-h8

[peez]

NO WRONG, WRONG BAD, BAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU ARE BANNED. BANNED FROM THIS FORUM, BANNED FROM THE PLANET, BANNED FROM LIFE ITSELF.

[/peez]

Mykeru wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Mykeru wrote:Looking for a link to that video where Peezus was asked about his banhammer style, ending with him giving the most convoluted answer about his only banning people attempting to "derail" or some other such shit.

I believe it was direct linked in one of the locked threads. My search-fu could not find it.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7PprXJ-h8

[peez]

NO WRONG, WRONG BAD, BAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU ARE BANNED. BANNED FROM THIS FORUM, BANNED FROM THE PLANET, BANNED FROM LIFE ITSELF.

[/peez]

Your banning text is about 15 font sizes too small and not red enough. Try again sir.

Apples wrote:

In this case, I posted my regrets that Natalie Reed was leaving FtB, and also pointed out something that NoelPlum99 ought to find ironic: that the trolls and abusers are driving someone out of their own space.

Oops - PZ's forgetting to lissen to the wimminz again. Natalie Reed clearly said she didn't feel that she was driven off of FTB by trolls/harassers and asked people like PZ not to use her departure to serve their narrative. Oh well.

Screencapped!

http://i.imgur.com/NVAEAfJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/d4Sqlzj.png

Mykeru wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Mykeru wrote:Looking for a link to that video where Peezus was asked about his banhammer style, ending with him giving the most convoluted answer about his only banning people attempting to "derail" or some other such shit.

I believe it was direct linked in one of the locked threads. My search-fu could not find it.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7PprXJ-h8

[peez]

NO WRONG, WRONG BAD, BAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU ARE BANNED. BANNED FROM THIS FORUM, BANNED FROM THE PLANET, BANNED FROM LIFE ITSELF.

[/peez]

[Turd of Redhead]
And so the proven idjit liar Mykerpoo once again proves his presuppositional ignorance of EVIDENCE and offers only his OPINION. OPINION is not EVIDENCE and per the Hitchens quote can be *FLOOSH* sent to the biohazard treatment center for cleanup and release. It does not realize its own idjit OPINIONS are just that: OPINIONS which need to be backed up by links to the EVIDENCE such as an be found in the libraries of scientific institutions. The Horde recognizes a presuppositional liar and bullshitter when it sees one, who has no evidence for his claims other than presupposition and faith, neither of which would pass muster with a scientist, professional debunker or magician which is required for the Horde to take you seriously.

[/Turd of Redhead]

Yes, people love drama. People have loved drama since always. Its why we have this awesome thing now called Drama, it usually deals with murders and scandals and violence and adultery and corruption and sex. Anita Sarkeesin is going to hate the fuck out of it when she moves past Buffy The Vampire Slayer and 1990s era batman movies.

Steersman wrote:

cunt wrote:

I am also sure that Steersman, if anyone could possibly show us an example of us doing the same. Not that I can recall any of us doing it, though "love is blind" may have something to do with it.

Right, well I go too far sometimes but I like Steersman.

Thanks for the vote of confidence – tough crowd here … :-)

You're a decent egg, old bean.

Submariner wrote:

Gumby wrote:Really, the key to PZ's ramblings is this:

PZ said:

There are no rational grounds, no context for reasonable dissent, for being anti-feminist, for instance, or denying that our culture is deeply patriarchal and sexist. ... Because really, how do you express “reasonable dissent” from the view that women are people, and that our society institutionalizes discrimination of all sorts?

:doh:

So, PZ, you are saying that there can be NO reasonable dissent, because you consider anyone not in line with your views to be "anti-feminist" (ABSOLUTELY NOT FUCKING TRUE), and in your view if anyone thinks that there's as not as much patriarchal sexism in (presumably U.S.) culture as you amp it up to be, they are being "unreasonable". Really? Everything is that black-and-white to you? Also, dumbfuck cultist, people who disagree with you DO NOT THINK WOMEN AREN'T PEOPLE.

http://transitionculture.org/wp-content ... awman1.jpg

Actually, PZ and his troop (pride, gaggle, herd?) are arguing that women are superior to people or that non-women are not people.

1. Don't threaten and/or harass women. I'm just going to talk about threats for brevity here. "Threats" seem to have a different meaning than I'm used to. "I'm know where you live and I'm going to beat the shit out of you" is a threat. "Someone should kick your ass" is not a treat. Most of the so called "rape threats" have been of the later variety, ie "somone should rape you". So if we use FfTB criteria for what constitutes a threat, the many (apparently acceptable ) threats of violence against men " Die in a fire" type comments, imply that either threatening people (men) is OK, or that men aren't people and can thus be threatened with impunity.

2. Listen to the women. When people (men) bring a claim, they are required to provide evidence of the claim and then the evidence is weighed to determine if it meets the criteria of sound evidence, and if it supports the claim as the claimant says it does. When women bring a claim and evidence is asked for, shouts of misogyny and listen to the women deride the person asking for evidence. So either some people don't need evidence, just a personal feeling (special people), or men have a different burden of evidence because they are not people.

It's what many have been saying for a long time PZ, and it is summed up quite nicely by the pit's new motto: The Radical Notion That Women Are People AND Adults. You don't get to have one without the other.

Someone please help me find the FTB violence archive to annotate this post.

What annoys me so much about this is that people keep using conclusionary 'evidence' when they say they're victims of something or other. (i.e. "You want evidence, I get harassed every day" or "I get threats on my twitter feed.")

If that was their evidence in Court, it wouldn't be admissible: because it doesn't say anything[/i]. All you know is that the person has concluded it meets their definition of those categories of acts, but you have no way of knowing yourself whether it actually does.

Apples wrote:

AbsurdWalls wrote:Might be misremembering this, but would that be the same hyperdeath who straight-up banned somebody for trying to correct his shitty understanding of mathematics?

I believe that was Flewellyn, though I don't have the link. Hyperdeath is actually, I believe, a Ph.D theoretical physicist. http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/ Which makes it all the more surprising that he oversees the A+ shitshow. Actually, I sort of suspect he realizes folks like Flewellyn and Ceepolk are a bit nuts but also realizes he doesn't have good potential replacements (Setar? Kassiane?). The fact that hyperdeath banned rocko for leaving a link to his 'secret forum' dramatic reading at the Capricious Mods thread - without hiding or deleting the link - fascinates me. It's still there.

It was very bemusing to say the least.

masakari2012 wrote:

Apples wrote:

In this case, I posted my regrets that Natalie Reed was leaving FtB, and also pointed out something that NoelPlum99 ought to find ironic: that the trolls and abusers are driving someone out of their own space.

Oops - PZ's forgetting to lissen to the wimminz again. Natalie Reed clearly said she didn't feel that she was driven off of FTB by trolls/harassers and asked people like PZ not to use her departure to serve their narrative. Oh well.

Screencapped!

http://i.imgur.com/NVAEAfJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/d4Sqlzj.png

It's not about Natalie its all about how many points they can score. It is always that, points. They left facts behind a long time ago. Facts are annoying and get in the way. So why not change them? It's easy and anyway the ends justify the means.

And they think they can get away with that in a community which prides itself on critical thinking, diversity of ideas and fact checking?

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Mykeru wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Mykeru wrote:Looking for a link to that video where Peezus was asked about his banhammer style, ending with him giving the most convoluted answer about his only banning people attempting to "derail" or some other such shit.

I believe it was direct linked in one of the locked threads. My search-fu could not find it.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7PprXJ-h8

[peez]

NO WRONG, WRONG BAD, BAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU ARE BANNED. BANNED FROM THIS FORUM, BANNED FROM THE PLANET, BANNED FROM LIFE ITSELF.

[/peez]

[Turd of Redhead]
And so the proven idjit liar Mykerpoo once again proves his presuppositional ignorance of EVIDENCE and offers only his OPINION. OPINION is not EVIDENCE and per the Hitchens quote can be *FLOOSH* sent to the biohazard treatment center for cleanup and release. It does not realize its own idjit OPINIONS are just that: OPINIONS which need to be backed up by links to the EVIDENCE such as an be found in the libraries of scientific institutions. The Horde recognizes a presuppositional liar and bullshitter when it sees one, who has no evidence for his claims other than presupposition and faith, neither of which would pass muster with a scientist, professional debunker or magician which is required for the Horde to take you seriously.

[/Turd of Redhead]

Impressive. What did you have to put in a paper bag and inhale to do that?

justinvacula wrote:http://i.imgur.com/RPZuzOa.jpg

http://anr.apartmentj.com/?p=894#comment-772

Right, because comparing DJ Grothe to a Nazi-supporting Jew-hater during the Nazi regime is not ridiculous one bit.

Nevermind that it, by proxy, compares the women of today to the Jews of that time and that their situation should be similar in any way.

So is that supposed to be an apology to DJ, then, Ophelia? I don't know about you, but I don't really feel it. Maybe you should try being a bit more sincere?

acathode wrote:

BarnOwl wrote:Sounds like a Merkin problem - what about elsewhere in the industrialized world? Here in the US, high-speed internet access in one's home or apartment really is a kind of privilege, and there are many people who simply can't afford it. What about the UK, Australia, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Canada, Brazil, Japan, etc.?

What, exactly, is high-speed?

I'm currently on a decent ADSL line with something like 10/2 mbit real-life speeds, which cost something like $25/month. It's is enough for me atm, but IMO doesn't come close to what you're going to want to have in the near future. However, I also live basically in the freaking forest atm, in a very rural area of Sweden, far from anything even close to a city. They are slowly dragging real fiber to the neighboring villages, but I've yet to hear anything concerning our village (and the initial connection cost is going to be pretty brutal I suspect).

If I lived in an apartment in a town or city however, I'd expect to be able to get at least a 100/10 connection for a reasonable price.

Fucking American monopolies. I pay 35 bucks a month for the lightest internet with Time Warner. I can stream video okay with my Roku, but skyping peer to peer is hopeless. I skype my brother in his town form time to time, but we always wind up turning off the cameras because it fucks up the sound.

rocko2466 wrote:

Apples wrote:

AbsurdWalls wrote:Might be misremembering this, but would that be the same hyperdeath who straight-up banned somebody for trying to correct his shitty understanding of mathematics?

I believe that was Flewellyn, though I don't have the link. Hyperdeath is actually, I believe, a Ph.D theoretical physicist. http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/ Which makes it all the more surprising that he oversees the A+ shitshow. Actually, I sort of suspect he realizes folks like Flewellyn and Ceepolk are a bit nuts but also realizes he doesn't have good potential replacements (Setar? Kassiane?). The fact that hyperdeath banned rocko for leaving a link to his 'secret forum' dramatic reading at the Capricious Mods thread - without hiding or deleting the link - fascinates me. It's still there.

It was very bemusing to say the least.

It had crossed my mind that the behaviour of the ops on A+ is intended to ensure it will crash and burn. But then I quickly realised people really are as deluded as they appear to be.

BarnOwl wrote:http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... 2d0d9f.png

Narcissistic assholes and their privileged, indolent, all-expenses-paid conference-attending lifestyles.

If Ophie talks like she blogs, it's gonna be awkward at a conference with her as speaker. Seeing someone copy and paste in person would be chilling.

steersman said

In addition, there was the recent case of SomeDumbGuy and his supposed “threats”. Again, some variation in the responses here, but some of them seem to be predicated on the perception that the threats had some credibility leading to some discussion about banning him or at least editing his comments. Yet their credibility seemed to be no more than that implied by various “threats” against Watson which virtually all and sundry here had dismissed just as Watson engaging in some “histrionics”.

There has been plenty of skepticism to many of Watson's claims here. "Virtual and all sundry" have admitted she's had threats but have suggested that she has purposely played them up, as would be consistent with the definition of histrionic personality disorder.
Got a problem with that Shakespeare?

Edinburgh literary festival is pretty cool. I met Iain M Banks there once and forced the fucker to sign my tits.

Richard Dworkins wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Tigzy wrote:

jimthepleb wrote:Dawkins under fire for describing a woman as histrionic.
:o
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/stat ... 3713736704
bad richard :naughty:

Aaand...Rebecca Watson just flooshed!

Why is it that there seems to be more gals than guys who are “histrionic”? More of a gal thing? The way that one might say in the face of the fact that there are 10 times as many guys in prison as there are gals, "[crime], it's more of a guy thing"?

Really rather “problematic” – to say the least – that many people – mostly postmodernists of various stripes, but most relevantly here, “gender feminists” – would rather deny facts than to give any ground on their dogma. Curious and curiouser ….

I may regret this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic ... y_disorder

I don't think your link works. It leads the FTB/Skepchick "About us" page?

rocko2466 wrote:

BarnOwl wrote:http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... 2d0d9f.png

Narcissistic assholes and their privileged, indolent, all-expenses-paid conference-attending lifestyles.

If Ophie talks like she blogs, it's gonna be awkward at a conference with her as speaker. Seeing someone copy and paste in person would be chilling.

And he said <block quote> And I thought to myself <block quote> ...rinse and repeat for 45 min.

free thoughtpolice wrote:steersman said

In addition, there was the recent case of SomeDumbGuy and his supposed “threats”. Again, some variation in the responses here, but some of them seem to be predicated on the perception that the threats had some credibility leading to some discussion about banning him or at least editing his comments. Yet their credibility seemed to be no more than that implied by various “threats” against Watson which virtually all and sundry here had dismissed just as Watson engaging in some “histrionics”.

There has been plenty of skepticism to many of Watson's claims here. "Virtual and all sundry" have admitted she's had threats but have suggested that she has purposely played them up, as would be consistent with the definition of histrionic personality disorder.
Got a problem with that Shakespeare?

Not at all. I think you’re missing my point. It wasn’t that there is no credibility to the suggestion that Watson’s claims were histrionic. It was that admitting that that is the case is inconsistent with the assertion that SDB’s threats were not also histrionic.

cunt wrote:Edinburgh literary festival is pretty cool. I met Iain M Banks there once and forced the fucker to sign my tits.

Ah, but was he Iain M Banks or Iain Banks, and how could you tell?

cunt wrote:Yes, people love drama. People have loved drama since always. Its why we have this awesome thing now called Drama, it usually deals with murders and scandals and violence and adultery and corruption and sex. Anita Sarkeesin is going to hate the fuck out of it when she moves past Buffy The Vampire Slayer and 1990s era batman movies.

[youtube]Awnjw36mNEs[/youtube]
"The girls are crying and the boys are masturbating"

Jack wrote: I'm in the UK and for the equivalent of about 10 dollars a month you can get unlimited internet. There are 'fair usage' policies but they can be very generous as there is a lot of competition. I pay about 20 dollars but for that I get no lag at all and I can HD stream all day long on several computers if I wanted. So if someone can't afford the internet they certainly can't afford a computer or even be able to feed themselves. You usually get a free router when you sign up as well, although having your own one of better quality can be better.

There's also many 'hotspots' which are free but I have never tried to use them.

There's currently an upgrade going on to that mega speed as well.

And you have the NHS, decent social services for the indigent, excellent universities and medical schools that don't cost a fortune to attend, better public transportation than most places in the US, and probably lots of other things that I'm forgetting or didn't notice during the few years I lived in the UK.

But Merikuh is THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH GODDAMMIT!!!

:D

Pitchguest wrote:

justinvacula wrote:http://i.imgur.com/RPZuzOa.jpg

http://anr.apartmentj.com/?p=894#comment-772

Right, because comparing DJ Grothe to a Nazi-supporting Jew-hater during the Nazi regime is not ridiculous one bit.

Nevermind that it, by proxy, compares the women of today to the Jews of that time and that their situation should be similar in any way.

So is that supposed to be an apology to DJ, then, Ophelia? I don't know about you, but I don't really feel it. Maybe you should try being a bit more sincere?

Methinks you too could use a review of the nature of analogies . Here, here, and here.

But I don’t have a problem with the one Ophelia used, nor with the several that Shermer used as well as I pointed out in Harriet Hall’s post on the topic.

bhoytony wrote:

cunt wrote:Edinburgh literary festival is pretty cool. I met Iain M Banks there once and forced the fucker to sign my tits.

Ah, but was he Iain M Banks or Iain Banks, and how could you tell?

Iain Banks told me to go fuck myself later on.

acathode wrote:

BarnOwl wrote:Sounds like a Merkin problem - what about elsewhere in the industrialized world? Here in the US, high-speed internet access in one's home or apartment really is a kind of privilege, and there are many people who simply can't afford it. What about the UK, Australia, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Canada, Brazil, Japan, etc.?

What, exactly, is high-speed?

I'm currently on a decent ADSL line with something like 10/2 mbit real-life speeds, which cost something like $25/month. It's is enough for me atm, but IMO doesn't come close to what you're going to want to have in the near future. However, I also live basically in the freaking forest atm, in a very rural area of Sweden, far from anything even close to a city. They are slowly dragging real fiber to the neighboring villages, but I've yet to hear anything concerning our village (and the initial connection cost is going to be pretty brutal I suspect).

If I lived in an apartment in a town or city however, I'd expect to be able to get at least a 100/10 connection for a reasonable price.

This is perhaps the best option available here, and I'm in an inner suburb of a large city. My internet is bundled with the TV package; I've got middle-of-the-range speed (not a gamer), and it would be $51 per month unbundled. Fiber optics beats the hell out of cable, though - unfortunately, the Uverse has limited availability. I got lucky because AT&T used to have a big corporate presence here, and we were a test market.

Git wrote:

Steersman wrote:

cunt wrote:

I am also sure that Steersman, if anyone could possibly show us an example of us doing the same. Not that I can recall any of us doing it, though "love is blind" may have something to do with it.

Right, well I go too far sometimes but I like Steersman.

Thanks for the vote of confidence – tough crowd here … :-)

You're a decent egg, old bean.

Thanks. :-)

And thanks also for the article by “Chip Morningstar” – that’s one that definitely goes to the top of my “To read” list ….

BarnOwl wrote:

Jack wrote: I'm in the UK and for the equivalent of about 10 dollars a month you can get unlimited internet. There are 'fair usage' policies but they can be very generous as there is a lot of competition. I pay about 20 dollars but for that I get no lag at all and I can HD stream all day long on several computers if I wanted. So if someone can't afford the internet they certainly can't afford a computer or even be able to feed themselves. You usually get a free router when you sign up as well, although having your own one of better quality can be better.

There's also many 'hotspots' which are free but I have never tried to use them.

There's currently an upgrade going on to that mega speed as well.

And you have the NHS, decent social services for the indigent, excellent universities and medical schools that don't cost a fortune to attend, better public transportation than most places in the US, and probably lots of other things that I'm forgetting or didn't notice during the few years I lived in the UK.

But Merikuh is THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH GODDAMMIT!!!

:D

You now have Piers Morgan, therefore we're better by default.

BarnOwl wrote: And you have the NHS, decent social services for the indigent, excellent universities and medical schools that don't cost a fortune to attend, better public transportation than most places in the US, and probably lots of other things that I'm forgetting or didn't notice during the few years I lived in the UK.

But Merikuh is THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH GODDAMMIT!!!

:D

Hahaha, we're ripping all that apart and stabbing its neck off. Sacrifice to the god of worthless eton educated baby-faced dickholes.

masakari2012 wrote:

Apples wrote:

In this case, I posted my regrets that Natalie Reed was leaving FtB, and also pointed out something that NoelPlum99 ought to find ironic: that the trolls and abusers are driving someone out of their own space.

Oops - PZ's forgetting to lissen to the wimminz again. Natalie Reed clearly said she didn't feel that she was driven off of FTB by trolls/harassers and asked people like PZ not to use her departure to serve their narrative. Oh well.

Screencapped!

http://i.imgur.com/NVAEAfJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/d4Sqlzj.png

Bravo. The truth hurts, when you're a fuckin liar.

BarnOwl wrote:http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... 2d0d9f.png

Narcissistic assholes and their privileged, indolent, all-expenses-paid conference-attending lifestyles.

I live very near oxford and would love to go...obviously too expensive for the likes of me...but then I'm not an entitled arsehole.