cunt wrote:AndrewV69 wrote:cunt wrote:Yeah meanwhile you haven't listened to the podcast so who's the cunt, cunt?
Because you know that contradicts my worldview, and thus you hope to tangle me into denial about my special and pwecious view of realty.
That is cuntish behaviour. And besides you are a cunt, your name spells cunt and you behave like a cunt.
Haha, just out of interest how often does the enemies list come up on AVFM and whats the usual response? Apart from anything else, do they even know how bad it makes them look?
I do not think there is too much objection to the list, and while it does come up now and then, to the best of my knowledge only one guy tried to formally debate Elan about it (technical default, did not respond within the time alloted for responses).
As for making AVfM look "bad" I do not see that on the radar at all. You have made it clear the connotations this has for you in the UK. Paul is American so he is completely "tone deaf", as I am to that sort of linkage. You can make the argument, it just fails to register.
I also seriously doubt, although time will tell that the MRA side has people like Meir Weinstein and Irv Rubin on board (not yet anyway).
If some nutjob actually takes it upon himself to beat the crap out of people, firebomb their mailbox, or send them pipe bombs like David Barbarash I expect it would happen to Paul Elam, not anyone on his list.
I personally have a considerable amount of ambivalence about the "register her" business however. While I do agree with many on the names currently on the list, some of them fall into the category of "why even bother?".
Unfortunately, we are apparently in a war with a set of unprincipled, immoral, vicious, and cowardly manipulators who will stop at nothing to achieve their aims, and which in the case of some individuals, apparently includes the extermination of 90% of males.
I am certain you will agree with me though, that just having the list itself, is problematic from quite a few perspectives including the slippery slope angle and the question of who decides what,
not to mention becoming what you fight.
However, as far as I am concerned, this makes me no better that Twatson, Laden, and PeeZuss Christ and OB on this point.
Fortunately, I never claimed to be a saint, or indeed ever fooled myself about that. Just because I have not actually done anything, or intend to, does not automatically place me on a higher moral plane that those people. The desire is there, but fortunately, so is my self-restraint.
On the other hand, I firmly disagree with the jury nullification business that Elam advocates (if I understand him correctly). It is my conceit that despite the best efforts of the sexual grievance industry and people like Amanda "if a man is accused he is guilty" Marcott, that for the most part the jury will free the falsely accused (and I really hope this version of reality is true).
Our laws came about for principled and justifiable reasons. If the laws are being manipulated, we need to go after the actors doing so, not render the laws null and void (simplistic yes, add your own nuance as needed).
