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UnbelieveSteve wrote:
Jack wrote:Hi low life's. I've just registered to show my appreciation for this site. Without your uncanny ability to point me to the relentless entertainment provided by FTB and A+ my life would have been intolerable. They seem so co.........
blah blah blah yeah we heard it all before Jack.
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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:DARPA is working on new solar cells that will increase the harvest from 10% efficiency to about 50% by specialising them to "catch" specific wavelenghts.
WTF would DaRPA know 'bout teknolojee?
They only invented the internets, and where has that got us?
Mired in porn and kittens.
And kitten-porn.

And as for their self-driving car kompetition, what will that achieve? (Apart from the Mafia being able to run-over victims with even more immunity than before. A mere baby-step in the science of assassination.)
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Also, welcome Matt and LadySetar!
They can fuck off too. And the self-driving DARPA car that they rode in on.
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Lsuoma wrote:Eucliwoo, I am in the Pacific time zone most of the time. If you want to let me know what times you intend to post, I'll completely fucking ignore it, and moderate when I'm good and ready. Is that OK with you?

hahahaha!

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Skep tickle wrote:
Some parents live elsewhere in the world. ;)
Oh yeah? Evidence or STFU!

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FWIW, there have been ~133 posts in the past 24 hrs at Atheism+ forum, after a recent baseline of ~200/dy x 9 days 1-2 weeks ago, then ~300/dy x past 7 days (since wind found out about the secret forum & raised havoc in the are-mods-capricious thread). Presumably many or most of those posts have been in the area(s) to the public (and to non-trusted members like wind).

Of course, maybe the A+ members simply all have social lives & haven't been at A+ forum as much on a weekend day due to that - even though there didn't seem to be that much of a slow-down the last 2 Saturdays-my-time...

[/not obsessing, just bored; it's this or do all that work I brought home]

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Some parents live elsewhere in the world. ;)
Oh yeah? Evidence or STFU!
:D

BTW, loved your music linked in the previous thread! (listened to it as I caught up, pages & pages)

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Skep tickle wrote:... maybe the A+ members simply all have social lives...
That is the best larf that I have had all week!!
Thank you!

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Michael K Gray wrote: WTF would DaRPA know 'bout teknolojee?
They only invented the internets, and where has that got us?
They did provide Boston Dynamics with the insentive to give us Big Dog. Which is fuckin' awesome.

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Michael K Gray wrote:
Mr Danksworth wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:...I believe we need to find a cheap and clean energy source such as usable fusion power technology to sustain anywhere near our present population levels much less our standard and quality of living.
There, the solution to all the worlds' problems.
We already have all the fusion power that we need.
The fusion reactor is called "the Sun".
Fuckin' hippy.
Not at the moment, but I hope to a bit later.
Noooiiiice. Remember, natural=good. Bareback.

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Well, I am prone to say it's probably the lulziest sunday morning I've had at the pit so far. Did you people miss mass or something?

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(And as I no longer sponsor the current thread, can I take this corset off now?)
haha! No fainting here.

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Reaching back to where Metalogic42 posted Ophelia's recent rant about skirts (too inhibiting! and cunt-revealing!): viewtopic.php?p=55387#p55387

There's talk of men's skirts in the "Men's" clothing that doesn't suck? thread at Atheism+ forum, where relatively new member Iguananaut (who seems to be fitting in well) opens with this (in part):
...every time I go shopping for clothes I get pretty angry. First of all there's the fact that I wish I could just wear more "women's" clothes without it raising any questions. Without being misgendered more frequently than I already am. It's just that there's so much infinitely more variety and on women's fashion--so much more choice in style and colors and patterns and cuts. I wish I could have all (or at least most) of the same things, but in sizes and shapes that will actually fit me, and that that's just "normal".

The men's fashions seem to vary between "ironed" and "kind wrinkled". I'm exaggerating a little bit but...it's still pretty uninspiring most of the time. The only real choices to find something that I really *like* and that's well made is to either spend my entire paycheck, or spend all day trawling consignment stores (and still usually not finding anything). Pants are the worst--the only pants I can find reliably that I like are some kinds of skinny jeans, though even there it can be hard to find something tasteful. I hate most dress pants--all dress pants I ever see on men just makes their butts look huge. More skirts for men please.
Grimalkin (sig currently: '"I'm not saying that neurotypicals are bad people or anything, they just can't feel empathy" he pronouns plz') weighs in; part of it reads:
...Anyways, I'm mostly in your boat, looking for suggestions too. I'm trying to strike a balance between looking "masculine" enough that I can pass when I want to, but not sacrificing fashion, which is a bit difficult when just looking masculine full stop...

...As far as pants... no advice there. Mens' pants do just tend to bore me, and the one time I found interesting ones they were skinny jeans and somehow gave me more of an ass than I've ever had in any womens' pants? It was kind of inexplicable, and also the polar opposite of my intent. I will second your "skirts for men" though.
First, it does seem that women have more variety in clothing, including more use of colors & patterns and more varied styles, at least in Western clothing. While that adds flexibility it probably also adds to expectation by many that women's wardrobe will generally be larger, having to encompass more clothes for different occasions, levels of formality, & so that others (coworkers especially) don't see the same 5-7 outfits on a woman over & over. This is observation, guesswork, anecdotal level on my part.

Second, it's clear that women do have the flexibility (for the past ~50 yrs; in western cultures at least) of wearing "men's" clothing (pants and a shirt), but men are looked upon askance (as a joke, or with concern) when they wear "women's" clothing. In some places kilts are well within the normal scope of men's wear; in other places, they are not.

Third, here Iguananaut seems to be saying he (?) wants to be able to dress more like a woman, without being thought of as a woman. And Grimalkin seems to be saying he* (*per current pronoun preference) likes to dress like a man, in order to pass as a man, and proceeds to give Iguananut advice on making the most of clothing thought of as "men's". Fashion advice, A+ style. Not supposed to presume you know what someone else's experience is like, but if you're one of the inner circle there's more leeway given, it seems.

And both would like "more skirts for men". Which leads me to wonder what they were referring to, since they didn't specifically say "kilts". Nor clothing from other cultures; FWIW, Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_skirts has this to say:
Outside of Western cultures, men's clothing commonly includes skirts and skirt-like garments; however, in North America and much of Europe, the wearing of a skirt is today usually seen as typical for females and not males. People have variously attempted to promote the wearing of skirts by men in Western culture and to do away with this arbitrary sex distinction, albeit with limited general success[1] and considerable cultural resistance.[2] ...
and later mentions Utilikilts and 3 companies that also sell (or sold?) kilts & "men's skirts".

In a search for "skirts" at A+ forum, I didn't see any thread or post that referred to skirts as being oppressive toward women, or too revealing, or part of "rape culture". Yet another example of the messaging not being quite coordinated between the different branches of the "3rd wave of atheism". If men wore skirts more often, do you s'pose Ophelia would see them as oppressive, restricting, and sexually dangerous for women? :think:

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And some of them have long hair, too.

Poor Setar...

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: WTF would DaRPA know 'bout teknolojee?
They only invented the internets, and where has that got us?
They did provide Boston Dynamics with the insentive to give us Big Dog. Which is fuckin' awesome.
W1czBcnX1Ww
Holy hell, that is impressive!
Far more nimble than me on a Friday night, and a lot less noisy.
What is the power source? Wasps, or Bees?

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Mr Danksworth wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
Mr Danksworth wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:...I believe we need to find a cheap and clean energy source such as usable fusion power technology to sustain anywhere near our present population levels much less our standard and quality of living.
There, the solution to all the worlds' problems.
We already have all the fusion power that we need.
The fusion reactor is called "the Sun".
Fuckin' hippy.
Not at the moment, but I hope to a bit later.
Noooiiiice. Remember, natural=good. Bareback.
Not if I have to remove her saddle.
The girth strap is very tight.
Sunday night is rodeo night round these here parts.

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Michael K Gray wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: WTF would DaRPA know 'bout teknolojee?
They only invented the internets, and where has that got us?
They did provide Boston Dynamics with the insentive to give us Big Dog. Which is fuckin' awesome.
W1czBcnX1Ww
Holy hell, that is impressive!
Far more nimble than me on a Friday night, and a lot less noisy.
What is the power source? Wasps, or Bees?
Vuvuzelas, or the tears of orphans.

First time I saw the video, like 5 years ago, my jaw dropped to the floor at Big Dog's recovery skills. There's also a Little Dog by Boston Dynamics.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Well, I am prone to say it's probably the lulziest sunday morning I've had at the pit so far. Did you people miss mass or something?
Yes, on Sundays I start up my personal anti-LHC, and collide stuff with such energy that it reveals what we scientistas⁸ call "missing mass", or the Catholic Slackers' Boson.
(1 Down.
The anti-Christ. I an anti-Christ particle meets a Christ particle, then grammar be damned, they cancel in a black whole, courtesy of Santa (anag. 5))

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VickyCaramel wrote:
sacha wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:
(And as I no longer sponsor the current thread, can I take this corset off now?)
haha! No fainting here.

I like your new profile image
Thank you kindly :)
You have an awesome buccal region.

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Skep tickle wrote:Reaching back to where Metalogic42 posted Ophelia's recent rant about skirts (too inhibiting! and cunt-revealing!): viewtopic.php?p=55387#p55387

There's talk of men's skirts in the [url=http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3792]"Men's" clothing that doesn't suck?
Balinese men seem to have zero trouble with skirts.
And these folk are warriors, too boot.
http://www.bali-travel-life.com/image-f ... al-men.jpg
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Skep tickle wrote:Reaching back to where Metalogic42 posted Ophelia's recent rant about skirts (too inhibiting! and cunt-revealing!): viewtopic.php?p=55387#p55387

There's talk of men's skirts in the "Men's" clothing that doesn't suck? thread at Atheism+ forum, where relatively new member Iguananaut (who seems to be fitting in well) opens with this (in part):
...every time I go shopping for clothes I get pretty angry. First of all there's the fact that I wish I could just wear more "women's" clothes without it raising any questions. Without being misgendered more frequently than I already am. It's just that there's so much infinitely more variety and on women's fashion--so much more choice in style and colors and patterns and cuts. I wish I could have all (or at least most) of the same things, but in sizes and shapes that will actually fit me, and that that's just "normal".

The men's fashions seem to vary between "ironed" and "kind wrinkled". I'm exaggerating a little bit but...it's still pretty uninspiring most of the time. The only real choices to find something that I really *like* and that's well made is to either spend my entire paycheck, or spend all day trawling consignment stores (and still usually not finding anything). Pants are the worst--the only pants I can find reliably that I like are some kinds of skinny jeans, though even there it can be hard to find something tasteful. I hate most dress pants--all dress pants I ever see on men just makes their butts look huge. More skirts for men please.
Grimalkin (sig currently: '"I'm not saying that neurotypicals are bad people or anything, they just can't feel empathy" he pronouns plz') weighs in; part of it reads:
...Anyways, I'm mostly in your boat, looking for suggestions too. I'm trying to strike a balance between looking "masculine" enough that I can pass when I want to, but not sacrificing fashion, which is a bit difficult when just looking masculine full stop...

...As far as pants... no advice there. Mens' pants do just tend to bore me, and the one time I found interesting ones they were skinny jeans and somehow gave me more of an ass than I've ever had in any womens' pants? It was kind of inexplicable, and also the polar opposite of my intent. I will second your "skirts for men" though.
First, it does seem that women have more variety in clothing, including more use of colors & patterns and more varied styles, at least in Western clothing. While that adds flexibility it probably also adds to expectation by many that women's wardrobe will generally be larger, having to encompass more clothes for different occasions, levels of formality, & so that others (coworkers especially) don't see the same 5-7 outfits on a woman over & over. This is observation, guesswork, anecdotal level on my part.

Second, it's clear that women do have the flexibility (for the past ~50 yrs; in western cultures at least) of wearing "men's" clothing (pants and a shirt), but men are looked upon askance (as a joke, or with concern) when they wear "women's" clothing. In some places kilts are well within the normal scope of men's wear; in other places, they are not.

Third, here Iguananaut seems to be saying he (?) wants to be able to dress more like a woman, without being thought of as a woman. And Grimalkin seems to be saying he* (*per current pronoun preference) likes to dress like a man, in order to pass as a man, and proceeds to give Iguananut advice on making the most of clothing thought of as "men's". Fashion advice, A+ style. Not supposed to presume you know what someone else's experience is like, but if you're one of the inner circle there's more leeway given, it seems.

And both would like "more skirts for men". Which leads me to wonder what they were referring to, since they didn't specifically say "kilts". Nor clothing from other cultures; FWIW, Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_skirts has this to say:
Outside of Western cultures, men's clothing commonly includes skirts and skirt-like garments; however, in North America and much of Europe, the wearing of a skirt is today usually seen as typical for females and not males. People have variously attempted to promote the wearing of skirts by men in Western culture and to do away with this arbitrary sex distinction, albeit with limited general success[1] and considerable cultural resistance.[2] ...
and later mentions Utilikilts and 3 companies that also sell (or sold?) kilts & "men's skirts".

In a search for "skirts" at A+ forum, I didn't see any thread or post that referred to skirts as being oppressive toward women, or too revealing, or part of "rape culture". Yet another example of the messaging not being quite coordinated between the different branches of the "3rd wave of atheism". If men wore skirts more often, do you s'pose Ophelia would see them as oppressive, restricting, and sexually dangerous for women? :think:
I really don't mean to be a dick, but.... is this a thing people actually care about? Who gives a fuck what clothes you can wear, as long as they keep you warm? I mean, seriously, there's a lot more important things in the world for the SJW's to be worried about. Talk about first world problems....

Maybe it's just my privilege showing.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:What is the power source? Wasps, or Bees?
Vuvuzelas, or the tears of orphans.
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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: First time I saw the video, like 5 years ago, my jaw dropped to the floor at Big Dog's recovery skills. There's also a Little Dog by Boston Dynamics.
I concur.
I could not have written better software myself, and that is a high compliment.

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Altair wrote: Now, trying to get ahead of Steersman (haven't seem him post in a while, though, I hope he's OK), THERE ARE some questionable quotes at manboobs by MRA's, but in my opinion many of them are cherry picked, many belong to commenters and not to "prominent figures" in the movement and some of them are the product of angry men who have had bad life experiences.
Thanks – this place is a tough act to follow in more ways than one and while it is a great source of information – and entertainment – following many comments and threads and links can chew up a large chunk of a day so I’m going to have try rationing myself more.
AndrewV69 wrote:I would not be surprised if Steersman, even as we speak is not off tormenting some other bunch of unsuspecting yahoos. Do not worry about Steersman. Worry about his victims.
I don’t know how successfully, but mostly Ed Brayton, Greta Christina, and their commentariats over the rather shabby accusation of Shermer for his supposedly sexist “[atheism], it’s more of a guy thing”. Curious that their definition of the term seems to be the tautological “what Shermer said”, and that no one in either place is prepared to even try defending that charge on the basis of the one in the dictionary, i.e., that it has to manifest discrimination or the “promoting of a stereotype”. Mostly a clueless bunch who are generally unable to see that simply noting a disparity – as Shermer did – really doesn’t qualify on either account.

Although I’m somewhat nonplussed to note that I’ve picked up another ban at Christina’s place for using a “dog whistle” there, i.e., “FfTB”. No sense of humour, maybe. Or it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. Or maybe she’s overly sensitive to the accusation because she recognizes that there’s more than a grain of truth to it. Curious, in any case ….
AndrewV69 wrote:(I heart that man so much I got a brocrush on him).
Aw gosh, gee willikers, fellah; thanks for the vote of confidence :-)
AndrewV69 wrote:Well I currently believe the MRM is too young to have fully developed a branch of whacked out radicals like the Radfems. Not yet anyway.
Probably more than a grain of truth to that argument. Along which line you might be interested in this section on gender from Pinker’s The Blank Slate which has a nice description of some gender differences and disparities, one of which Shermer alluded to and was more or less crucified for, and which provide some justification for your argument. The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.

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Oh Steersman... It's good to see that some things didn't change while I was away.

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Steerman. I ahve you on "ignore" for what I consider good reason.
I only occasionally check your posts when I am bored, and wish to be a skeptic and see if you have changed from being even more boring and pointless than I.
I am always disappointed.
How on earth do you manage to say so much, yet be so utterly vapid?
Steersman wrote:The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
What the flying fucking fuck does that even mean, for fux sake?
I had assumed by dint of my concentrated education in English grammar that I should be able to parse any English sentence with ease, grasping its meaning with little effort. But you, Steersman, have me perplexed, and wishing for a refund on my schooling.
You could hardly be more difficult to parse, nor more tedious when expressing an unplumbed thought.

Did you get dropped on the head when young, perhaps?
For that is by far the most generous interpretation of your current bizarre mental condition.

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Michael K Gray wrote: Did you get dropped on the head when young, perhaps?
For that is by far the most generous interpretation of your current bizarre mental condition.
He's like a child with a pile of Legos..... only the Legos are words. He just likes to see what he can build.

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Michael K Gray wrote:Steersman. I have you on "ignore" for what I consider good reason.
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How on earth do you manage to say so much, yet be so utterly vapid?
Steersman wrote:The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
What the flying fucking fuck does that even mean, for fux sake?
I take it then that you didn’t read the section of Pinker’s The Blank Slate I referenced? Nor are much familiar with the undercurrents that recently motivated Watson’s attempted hatchet-job of evolutionary psychology? On the assumption that your answers to one or both of those are “no”, here are, hopefully, a couple of salient quotes from Pinker that might provide some illumination:
Pinker wrote:Feminism is widely seen as being opposed to the sciences of human nature. Many of those scientists believe that the minds of the two sexes differ at birth, and feminists have pointed out that such beliefs have long been used to justify the unequal treatment of women.
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The belief that feminism requires a blank slate and a noble savage has become a powerful impetus for spreading disinformation.
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Equity feminism is a moral doctrine about equal treatment that makes no commitments regarding open empirical issues in psychology or biology. Gender feminism is an empirical doctrine committed to three claims about human nature. The first is that the differences between men and women have nothing to do with biology but are socially constructed in their entirety.
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In embracing these doctrines, the genderists are handcuffing feminism to railroad tracks on which a train is bearing down. As we shall see, neuroscience, genetics, psychology, and ethnography are documenting sex differences that almost certainly originate in human biology.
[Time to call it a day; night all]

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lonesagi wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: Did you get dropped on the head when young, perhaps?
For that is by far the most generous interpretation of your current bizarre mental condition.
He's like a child with a pile of Legos..... only the Legos are words. He just likes to see what he can build.
I like that analogy very much.
So much that I hereby bestow, in my capacity as a true-blue Aussie, the most noble, holy and fervently coveted Australian order of the Koala Stamp.
Well spotted, mein herren.

Is this xshim having a go at constructing the Taj Mahal, representing the Oxford book of English Grammar?
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Only three orange pieces (adjectives) and one green bit (verbs) to go before he has constructed his next random sentence!

Gotta encourage the neophytes to struggle toward expressing semi-comprehensible thoughts!
Steersman is nearly there:- He has the words, now he has assemble them into comprehensible phrases.

Come on, Steersman; You can do it!!

(A triumph of hope over experience if I ever saw such a thing.)

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: WTF would DaRPA know 'bout teknolojee?
They only invented the internets, and where has that got us?
They did provide Boston Dynamics with the insentive to give us Big Dog. Which is fuckin' awesome.
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Holy hell, that is impressive!
Far more nimble than me on a Friday night, and a lot less noisy.
What is the power source? Wasps, or Bees?
Vuvuzelas, or the tears of orphans.

First time I saw the video, like 5 years ago, my jaw dropped to the floor at Big Dog's recovery skills. There's also a Little Dog by Boston Dynamics.
Having played far too much Half-Life, it's Cheetah that gives me nightmares. I imagine all too vividly it leaping, those sharp pointed legs glistening in the sunlight...

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... Dafuq happened to the spoiler tag?

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Michael K Gray wrote: Well spotted, mein herren.
Once a month or so, I have a moment of insight. Don't expect anything of value again for a while.

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Michael K Gray wrote: So much that I hereby bestow, in my capacity as a true-blue Aussie, the most noble, holy and fervently coveted Australian order of the Koala Stamp.
I'll cherish it always. If I've won the respect of one Aussie I guess there might be hope for some of us 'Merkins?

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Steersman wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:Steersman. I have you on "ignore" for what I consider good reason.
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How on earth do you manage to say so much, yet be so utterly vapid?
Steersman wrote:The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
What the flying fucking fuck does that even mean, for fux sake?
I take it then that you didn’t read the section of Pinker’s The Blank Slate I referenced? Nor are much familiar with the undercurrents that recently motivated Watson’s attempted hatchet-job of evolutionary psychology?
A type-sample of that to which I refer.
A non-response that not only does not even attempt to answer a direct question "What the flying fucking fuck does that even mean, for fux sake?", but distracts with a totally irrelevant fucking side question.
Can you not just be honest for a change?
Answer a clear question honestly and forthrightly?
In the same manner that you unceasingly implore your betters to do?

Yes, Steersman, I have read the blank slate several times.
Steven Pinker does not answer my direct frigging question to YOU.
Yes: YOU!
Wassa matta? Scared of telling the truth about your multiple inadequacies and feel the need to deflect direct questioning to others who have zero idea of your thought-processes, such as they may be?

Back to ignore mode with you, you utter waste of space.

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lonesagi wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: So much that I hereby bestow, in my capacity as a true-blue Aussie, the most noble, holy and fervently coveted Australian order of the Koala Stamp.
I'll cherish it always. If I've won the respect of one Aussie I guess there might be hope for some of us 'Merkins?
Don't get too carried away.
If there's one thing that we Aussies can't stand it is everything.

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Michael K Gray wrote: Don't get too carried away.
If there's one thing that we Aussies can't stand it is everything.
Nah, that's why I chose "might" in my sentance. Mayhaps the probability is slightly more than zero? Doubtful, but I try to be an optimist.

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Steersman wrote:The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
I took that to mean that feminism is at a crossroads; they can no longer ignore the divide between gender and equity feminism.

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A non-response that not only does not even attempt to answer a direct question , but distracts with a totally irrelevant fucking side question.


That's a keeper. I'm not sure what it means but I can't wait to use it on somebody

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BannedAid wrote:
Steersman wrote:The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
I took that to mean that feminism is at a crossroads; they can no longer ignore the divide between gender and equity feminism.
Steersman could have said that plainly. Instead, he gussied it up to make it pretty; as a result, he lost comprehension. Pretty typical for him. Someone really ought to explain to him that communication has two halves... the sender and receiver. Words are only as good as your audience; if there's any doubt, revise your sentence. The onus is on the communicator, not the communicatee.

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lonesagi wrote:
BannedAid wrote:
Steersman wrote:The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
I took that to mean that feminism is at a crossroads; they can no longer ignore the divide between gender and equity feminism.
Steersman could have said that plainly. Instead, he gussied it up to make it pretty; as a result, he lost comprehension. Pretty typical for him. Someone really ought to explain to him that communication has two halves... the sender and receiver. Words are only as good as your audience; if there's any doubt, revise your sentence. The onus is on the communicator, not the communicatee.
I don't know. Sometimes it's tough to express even really simple ideas (which Steersman's point wasn't) clearly. I don't want to start trouble, but I really didn't feel like Steersman was gussying anything up. He wrote what he thought. People were free to ask what he meant. What's the problem?

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A question that's crossed my mind.

Does PZ Myers ever attract groupies?

(as in the kind of groupie attention a lead singer in a band would get)

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BannedAid wrote: I don't know. Sometimes it's tough to express even really simple ideas (which Steersman's point wasn't) clearly. I don't want to start trouble, but I really didn't feel like Steersman was gussying anything up. He wrote what he thought. People were free to ask what he meant. What's the problem?
Track record. Steersman has made a habit of being incomprehensible. Hell, maybe people can understand him now and I might be out of the loop. Last I checked, though, his posts were long-winded, rambling, and vague.

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lone-sagi.
Here is your offal award ceremony, complete with savs'n'dead horse⁵.
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You will, of course, be tattooed with the central koala element upon entry to Australia (or its Territories and Protectorates) as a matter of diplomatic course.
You do have Diplomatic Immunity, I presume? The tattoo needles at Heard Island are pretty ropey, I'm left to understand.
Penguin Virus is endemic there. P'raps Abbie could whip up a vaccine in time to stop all of the researchers turning into Batman Villains?
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Steersman is one of the last remnants of an era, the Plasticine age, whom I believe they call a Thesaurus.

PZ Myers is also from that age, although I believe he missed a generation.

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Pitchguest wrote:, the Plasticine age,.
Damn autocorrect, eh.

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Steersman wrote:Probably more than a grain of truth to that argument. Along which line you might be interested in this section on gender from Pinker’s The Blank Slate which has a nice description of some gender differences and disparities, one of which Shermer alluded to and was more or less crucified for, and which provide some justification for your argument. The more I read about the topic the more convinced I am that gender-equity feminism manifests a significant and decidedly problematic watershed in the movement.
Aye I read it. It is pretty basic and Pinker has written it in such a manner that it is very accessible. I might even nominate it for MRA 101 for when we get around to creating our own version of the sacred texts.

BTW ... I dunno if you have noticed? Recently an alarming number of women have joined the MRM. Any day now the number of female MRAs in leadership roles ... are going to outnumber the males.

How do you like them apples?

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TheMan wrote:A question that's crossed my mind.

Does PZ Myers ever attract groupies?

(as in the kind of groupie attention a lead singer in a band would get)
What kind of band? If we're talking about a mötley crüe cover band that plays every other weekend at applebee's, then, yeah, I bet he's getting all kinds of groupies.

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Feet of clay and all.

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BannedAid wrote:I don't know. Sometimes it's tough to express even really simple ideas (which Steersman's point wasn't) clearly. I don't want to start trouble, but I really didn't feel like Steersman was gussying anything up. He wrote what he thought. People were free to ask what he meant. What's the problem?
Tone Policing! Stop erasing my anger and incomprehension. Get off my foot, you ableist fuck! Gaslighaahhhh.... *passes out*

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Michael K Gray wrote:lone-sagi.
Here is your offal award ceremony, complete with savs'n'dead horse⁵.
I hope that koala is gender neutral. I might cry if not.

Because I am inebriated, I suffer from random internet awards.

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BannedAid wrote:I don't know. Sometimes it's tough to express even really simple ideas (which Steersman's point wasn't) clearly. I don't want to start trouble, but I really didn't feel like Steersman was gussying anything up. He wrote what he thought. People were free to ask what he meant. What's the problem?
Where do I start?
One of the problems arises from his chronic deliberate fogging of the intercourse, and muddying of the waters.
I suspect he does this in order to maintain his "persona":- that of an aloof disinterested observer.
Anything that he can do (grammatically) to obfuscate and provide plausible deniability via word-games he actively aims toward.
When a simple objection can be outlined simply, (and therefore be subject to rational scrutiny), he dives for the rhetorical cover that is proffered for the legions of abject lily-livered cowards by the æons-old political tricks of circumlocution, employing the passive tense, sitting on the fence to seem wise to the rubes and unworldly, but in fact presenting as an empty vessel, mournfully whistling as the wind blows over its sole orifice, as empty whine flagons are wont.

Here endeth the rant.
(Please give generously when the supplicant plate is passed to you.)

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TheMan wrote:A question that's crossed my mind.

Does PZ Myers ever attract groupies?

(as in the kind of groupie attention a lead singer in a band would get)
Depends on the Band. If we are talking Freddie Mercury, then I expect the answer is YES!

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Apples wrote: Tone Policing! Stop erasing my anger and incomprehension. Get off my foot, you ableist fuck! Gaslighaahhhh.... *passes out*
:lol:

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The problem I have with calling it Gender Feminism, is that while they reject entirely the notion of biological imperatives, they wholeheartedly embrace the notion of cultural imperatives. Truth be told, I'm not sure there's a whole lot of difference there. You can change the culture, after all, but the reality is that they don't really want to get rid of all those cultural imperatives either. Just the ones that make them unhappy. The ones that privilege them? They're fine and dandy. Don't want to touch them at all.

It's why I think a different term is needed, and I like the term Neofeminism instead. It's not even an ideology. It's just a temper tantrum.

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Pitchguest wrote:Steersman is one of the last remnants of an era, the Plasticine age, whom I believe they call a Thesaurus.
Goon Show - The Plasticene Man

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Neofeminist doesn't sound dismissive enough. They're just Social Justice Warriors.

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cunt wrote:Neofeminist doesn't sound dismissive enough. They're just Social Justice Warriors.
That's true as well. Generally I use Neofeminist when I'm JUST talking about gender, but when I'm talking about anything else I use the SJW tag.

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Karmakin wrote:...but when I'm talking about anything else I use the SJW tag.
Syphilitic Juice Wearer?

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Secular Wimps of Johannesburg, I believe...

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The fact is no one knows for sure yet which feminism defines reality. But whatever the answer is it is likely to be a lot more complex and nuanced than they can be bothered to find out. The fact that they reject evolutionary psychology out of hand tells me they are not really interested in knowing what may be true if it goes against their dogma.

It is this rejection of critical thinking and the free thought it requires I find the most objectionable. That they then try and defend their position with censorship, self affirmation and Kafka-trapping tells me how weak their arguments are.

Sorry for the boring rant. I feel better now.

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TheMan wrote:A question that's crossed my mind.

Does PZ Myers ever attract groupies?

(as in the kind of groupie attention a lead singer in a band would get)
According to Peezus, he does:
Now you might find this hard to believe (I know I do), but I’ve been in this position several times at atheist meetings. I’m a homely old guy, not exactly what anyone would consider romantic material, and I’ve received variants of the “come up to my room for coffee” line from several women and one man. I did not find it at all creepy — it was extremely flattering, as you might guess — because in every case these were offers from intelligent people in reasonable contexts, that is, Decent Human Beings.

Being a Decent Human Being is actually the best defense you can have. Don’t abandon it for short-term gain: you’re in a community, and you’re going to lose that if you think of yourself as a predator on the make.

Now at this point, hopefully, you are two people in a hotel room. What next? I can’t help you much at this point, because I’ve always turned those offers down, and all of my dating experience is from 35 years ago, and in my current long-term relationship, we dated for two months before we even kissed.
Somewhat ironically, if you follow the logic of the ant-harrassment policies touted by Myers since that time, the fact that he is, according to himself, not interested in sex with anyone other than his wife, turns all those offers of sex into incidences of un-solicited sexual harrassment!
And none of them perpetrated on women!

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