The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

[justinvacula]

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thethinkin ... l-atheists

[Lurkion]

Hey - skip to the bold part.
Critical thinking clue: naming the fallacy you're about to commit doesn't mean you haven't committed a fallacy.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2013/ ... does-work/

I saw this, and the figures do seem to be very fuzzy.

The “Don’t Be That Guy” campaign is a public service rape prevention campaign launched in Edmonton in 2010, and adopted by other cities in Canada, which took the radical step of aiming its message, not at potential rape victims, but at potential rapists.

I've had a quick look at this, and there seems to be some ambiguity about what exactly has decreased.
Is it reported rapes or sexual assaults, or does rape fall under sexual assault?

A rape prevention campaign targeted at potential rapists rather than potential victims was launched… and the number of reported sexual assaults fell by 10 per cent.[...]
[...]This was a one-shot public service campaign: a series of posters distributed in bars, nightclubs, transit stations and campus facilities. And it still had the apparent result of reducing the rate of rape by 10%.

Oh and A+ can't contain themselves.

And even before it was expanded it lowered (reported) rape rates by TEN FUCKING PERCENT.

As far as I can see, the 10% figure comes from Vancouver police crime figures.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 18b044.jpg

But the 9.8% is for 'Sexual Offences' which I suppose could cover anything from gang-rape at gunpoint to frottage to wanking tramps.

While the figures are 9.8% down in Vancouver, the number of actual reported rapes in the first adopter of the scheme, Edmonton are actually UP by 14.5%.

The success in Vancouver is welcoming news. However, yesterday it was reported that rapes in Edmonton had risen year over year. In 2010, there were 600 rapes reported, compared with 687 in 2011[...]
[...] there are at least two reasons for this: victims are now less reluctant to report assaults and young people have greater access to drugs and alcohol.

Rape Relief response to police-reported crime statistics in Canada, 2011

http://www.theunexpectedtnt.com/2012/01 ... t-guy.html
http://vancouver.ca/police/Planning/Sta ... 011YTD.pdf

Well done, my precious butterfly. Worth reading other folks.

[JackRayner]

http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png

Sorry, but this pic needs reposting.

"WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMEONE SLAUGHTERED YOUR FAMILY AND PUT THEM ON A PIZZA[?]"

WHAT?! I'm both laughing my ass off and craving some meat-lover's pizza now! :lol:

[franc]

BTW, we're at $635.00 at Operation Smile. Thanks so much, all of you!

Upon reaching $5K can we move on to funding a date between Justin and Eucliwood?
We'll need to pay for a camera a crew and probably some high-powered legal representation too.

No. You can all buy yourself a new designer shoes and feel deserving and important instead. Because everyone deserves nice things, and there's nothing on the donation page that says you can't and anyone that has a problem with that is a rapist.

[Mark Neil]

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png[/spoiler]

Sorry, but this pic needs reposting.

"WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMEONE SLAUGHTERED YOUR FAMILY AND PUT THEM ON A PIZZA[?]"

WHAT?! I'm both laughing my ass off and craving some meat-lover's pizza now! :lol:

No kidding. I think someone needs to throw that person a sausage party. It'll ether teach them to lighten up or give them an aneurysm.

[youtube]h_q9q7_3LFg[/youtube]

[Cunning Punt]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

Reading it now.

Wow.

They need TRIGGER WARNINGS for Rick Astley's 'never gonna give you up ' video?
hahaha
hahahaahaha
hahahahahaahhaahah

comedy gold
I now regale my bf daily with tales of A+ retardation

A pretty well written and full account of what happened is here, for those who did not live through it: http://realityismyreligion.me/2010/02/2 ... open-soon/

Live though it? How does one live through the closing down of a website? Is this like hurricane or a pandemic or something?

I can see it now: "I lived through the cancellation of Firefly so please provide a trigger warning if you show any footage from that show. Serenity is anything but for some of us <sob>"

[Ape+lust]

That reminds me of when they all went apeshit over some guys posting pix of themselves holding signs that said, for example:

"you are beautiful even without makeup"

Amanda Marcotte and other feminists got really angry, accusing men of 'telling women how to act' and 'mansplaining' amongst other things. The best was 'they think we need *their* approval, just more sexism'...

Here, maybe this will help:

http://i.imgur.com/1fCoY.jpg

I don't know about you, but it triggers that "seeing your 5th grade teacher outside school" awkward feeling in me.

[Axel]

on the Kylie Sturgess quiting, I was lurking FTB a couple of months ago and read this exchange comments section. BTW OB trivializes KS concerns http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... nt-either/

[Al Stefanelli]

I've no idea if this expression exists, so hopefully I'm going to coin it right now.

Drama bait.

[spoiler]They do it for the ad revenue. The more controversial a post is the more page views it gets and consequently the more $$$ they get when Ed divives up the money. That's why PZ prevents people leaving Youtube comments and instead directs them to his blog. That's why Benson, Svan and Christina write obvious flamebait. They want drama because it makes them money. When they write about normal non-drama things they get very few comments, so I imagine they also get far fewer page views and ads served.

Some examples from Ophelia's blog:

We the peeps - 4 comments

Fluttering - 10 comments

Her mistake - 13 comments

Once upon a time in Kenya - 7 comments

This is why we can't have nice shoes - 117 comments.


Great Christina's blog:

Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters - 10 comments

“Had the girl simply surrendered…” - 117 comments

Happy Birthday To Me - 45 comments

Atheists of Color: Updating the List - 23 comments

Fashion Friday: Dressy Comfortable Shoes, and Thinking Outside the Box - 36 comments

Greta Speaking in San Francisco Sun. 1/13 - 1 comment

The Absurd Manufactured Shoe Controversy: A Brief Response - 179 comments

6 Outrageous Incidents of Discrimination Against Nonbelievers - 6 comments


And so it goes on. Meanwhile, someone utterly uncontroversial, like AronRa, typically only gets around 5-25 comments on average. I doubt very much he's in it for the money.[/spoiler]

When I was a reporter/journalist, I was told to just submit my story (NY Times, McClatchy) and the editor or someone from marketing would devise a headline. Consequently, I rarely knew what my byline would be, but I knew it would sell papers.

I write 4 to 6 news stories every day, and the headlines I choose are specifically to draw in the reader so they click on the link to read the story. The Google News Service I write for makes money by ad revenue, so this makes sense, as well. Even on my blog and my YouTube videos, I write headlines that are designed to attract readers or viewers.

There is nothing inherently wrong with doing this. What is wrong is not admitting it or acknowledging it. What is really wrong is totally manufacturing material that is supposed to be non-fiction, or over dramatizing something to the point of absurdity.

Kinda like Fox News does...

[Al Stefanelli]

http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png

Sorry, but this pic needs reposting.

"WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMEONE SLAUGHTERED YOUR FAMILY AND PUT THEM ON A PIZZA[?]"

WHAT?! I'm both laughing my ass off and craving some meat-lover's pizza now! :lol:

Jesus fucking Christ... A Radivegafeminist

[Rystefn]

Live though it? How does one live through the closing down of a website? Is this like hurricane or a pandemic or something?

I can see it now: "I lived through the cancellation of Firefly so please provide a trigger warning if you show any footage from that show. Serenity is anything but for some of us <sob>"

Yeah, new rule: You're only allowed to say you lived through something if someone else didn't. No one died? Then if you use that phrase, you get to be the one that died.

[Jan Steen]

http://i.imgur.com/Q5u04.jpg

[welch]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

Reading it now.

Wow.

They need TRIGGER WARNINGS for Rick Astley's 'never gonna give you up ' video?
hahaha
hahahaahaha
hahahahahaahhaahah

comedy gold
I now regale my bf daily with tales of A+ retardation

Melissa: "The only sane response to that is to run down the street, stabbing people."
Alex (my son): "If you're going to be randomly killing people, can I give you a list?"

[ERV]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

*pointstomynose*

*pointstoyournose*

On the nose.

Also, flaunting the privileges of monogamous heterosexuality. Again.

[another lurker]

Somebody asked if I could put a link to the last post in a thread at the bottom of every page.

I COULD do this, but it would involve me breaking the scoping of variables between forum and topic (thread) views, which I'm reluctant to do without digging more deeply into the code and looking at the structure.

In short, the answer is no, at least for the present. A quick way to get there is to go to the topic page, and click on the "Last Post" link in the topic header. This will always be present unless you've already read the last post, in which case, seek help.

Thanks!

I Blame The Patriarchy

[franc]

So...before even bothering with Dillacunty's argument, I feel the need to point something out:

I agree.
The false flagging of Wooly bumblebees video and the various attemps to have twitter accounts closed down are anti-free speech.
Blocking someone on twitter or on your personal website is not.
Hensleys blocking of those who follow elevatorgate is not preventing free speech - it just shows that she is not a good critical thinker.
You needn't have been a supporter of elevatorgate to follow him. Many people follow those whose views they hate - but want to hear those views anyway - to get an idea about what is current in the minds of their opponents.
It is simply good thinking to try to get both sides of the story - even if you firmly believe one side. As Hitchens has said, you need to understand why someone is wrong rather then simply believing they are wrong and to do that you need to hear what they are saying. Go to the primary source of the 'wrongness' - understand from first principles.

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/wH9p8.jpg[/spoiler]

[windy]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/inter ... OyxTInjlCc

:lol: -Ah, that's Pruney all over, isn't it? God forbid that woman ever got into a position of any real authority. I'd probably have to become a terrorist.

Don't forget that paranoids have enemies too, Mooney and that other one were dishonest fuckers who couldn't set the record straight with a yardstick (where are they now, btw? cue Animal House style montage). The money shot is the hypocrisy that John Greg points out.

[Outwest]

on the Kylie Sturgess quiting, I was lurking FTB a couple of months ago and read this exchange comments section. BTW OB trivializes KS concerns http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... nt-either/

Did you read comment 70 (Ophie) referencing comment 64 and saying what #64 quoted (MLK) was not religious but a "secular" comment? Is she that stupid?

[AbsurdWalls]

on the Kylie Sturgess quiting, I was lurking FTB a couple of months ago and read this exchange comments section. BTW OB trivializes KS concerns http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... nt-either/

Today I learned that it's racist to say Martin Luther King was motivated by his religion.

[AbsurdWalls]

on the Kylie Sturgess quiting, I was lurking FTB a couple of months ago and read this exchange comments section. BTW OB trivializes KS concerns http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... nt-either/

Did you read comment 70 (Ophie) referencing comment 64 and saying what #64 quoted (MLK) was not religious but a "secular" comment? Is she that stupid?

If we believe that no spiritual world exists, and then follow Ophelia's logic there, all religions are already secular.

I guess the battle's over now.

[franc]

So am I the only one who thought the Eucliwood/LousyCanuck slashfic was funny as fuck? I hope that's what she sent to him.

Save Eucliwood! She's either an awesomely dedicated and massively entertaining Poe or pure mental energy and chaos given human form, now directed straight at the Lousy Canuck.
Either way = win.

How about not talking about the slug and feeding it the attention it wants? Use your ignore function. I do for Eucli and Steersbot. The experience is markedly improved. Once a day or so, I expand a random comment from both and find confirmation that it is still a broken record of non-content and what little guilt I may have at censoring my view of what I see is proven groundless.

Steersbot and Eucli are peas in a pod - they either repeat what irrelevancy they have said umpteen times in a closed loop, or parrot an observation made more eloquently by others. Unique content of interest - nil.

So either stop bitching about it and live with it, or do what I do.

[SkepticalCat]

My other much dumber and much rarer phobia is large maps.

I've always been a map fanatic. It never even once occurred to me that they could be the cause of a phobia. Why do you think you have this fear?

The strange thing is that I also have a great affection for cartography and geography (even considered cartography as a career at one time) but something about large blank spaces (water or deserts or other "empty" areas) on large maps makes me very uneasy under certain circumstances. It sounds so silly that I thought I must surely be the only person in the world thusly afflicted, until I found that there were at least 30 or 40 others (see http://blog.room34.com/archives/410 ). The other people at that link are speculating that it has something to do with a fear of falling or of open spaces. It affects my day-to-day life so little that I am more amused by it than anything, but I would be distinctly uneasy if I had to unroll a large rolled-up map of, say, Africa or Asia or the Pacific Ocean. If I happen to run across a large-scale map in a book I will often shudder and involuntarily slam the book shut. Crazy, isn't it?

[Lurkion]

If I happen to run across a large-scale map in a book I will often shudder and involuntarily slam the book shut. Crazy, isn't it?

Yes.

[Axel]

BTW, hi pit. I mostly lurk and never leave comments anywhere. I been lurking for a long time, longer than what they [the mods] suggest you lurk at Atheism +, before posting.

Anyway, if this is really the Misogynist Central Command Headquarter, the baboons must be using a very diluted homeopathic version of the meaning.

[franc]

I have to add that it is completely hilarious that the bunch of failures from "Victim Central" are trying to help people to "dress for success". Isn't that a trigger warning for: lookism, classism, getting a job.?

Especially when some -

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/gqDMJ.png[/spoiler]

[Outwest]

BTW, hi pit. I mostly lurk and never leave comments anywhere. I been lurking for a long time, longer than what they [the mods] suggest you lurk at Atheism +, before posting.

Anyway, if this is really the Misogynist Central Command Headquarter, the baboons must be using a very diluted homeopathic version of the meaning.

Welcome!

[Outwest]

BTW, hi pit. I mostly lurk and never leave comments anywhere. I been lurking for a long time, longer than what they [the mods] suggest you lurk at Atheism +, before posting.

Anyway, if this is really the Misogynist Central Command Headquarter, the baboons must be using a very diluted homeopathic version of the meaning.

Welcome!

[LMU]

BTW, hi pit. I mostly lurk and never leave comments anywhere. I been lurking for a long time, longer than what they [the mods] suggest you lurk at Atheism +, before posting.

Anyway, if this is really the Misogynist Central Command Headquarter, the baboons must be using a very diluted homeopathic version of the meaning.

Hello and welcome! I like the idea of homeopathic misogyny :lol:

[Altair]

BTW, in 1 day getting 13% of the goal at Operation Smile ain't bad. Not bad at all :) Now my task is to get that fundraising link out there as much as possible (without pissing people off).

I just sent 40 bucks your way to buy shoes smiles, I hope we get to the goal real soon.

[Gumby]

People thought A+ was going to be a warm and fuzzy version of atheism that used skepticism to tackle social issues

The worst thing is, I understand the appeal of that. So is this is yet another case of "the problem with [ideology] is it sounds great in principle, but can't work in practice", "the problem with [ideology] is it was hijacked by fanatics and morons", People on the Internet (TM), or just standard human dumb-fuckery? I'm inclined towards the latter, but then again I have a pessimistic streak.

I'm going with what you refer to as being "hijacked by fanatics and morons", to which I would also add "power-hungry control freaks".

In its pure essence, A+ is not a totally bad idea. It is not inherently wrong, although one can certainly quibble about trying to "add to" the definition of atheism. But it got hijacked and perverted by ideologues wanting to force their personal agendas on everyone else. Once can say the same thing about communism: It also is not an inherently wrong concept philosphically, but it was hijacked and perverted by totalitarianism. (Simplistic summary of Soviet-style communism I know, but you get my drift).

It seems that starting a new movement of any kind necessitates a lot of free exchange of ideas, broad tolerance of dissent, and widespread cooperation in order to point said nascent movement in the right direction. As with any birth, the first few hours are critical. When one, or a few, people come in at the start and try to take control because they think they know just what the movement needs to succeed, that's where the problems start. To the casual reader, the A+ forum looks like a bunch of people freely exchanging ideas. However, upon closer inspection it becomes apparent that only a limited range of ideas are approved, approved by the people who have set themselves up as being in charge. People who offer ideas or criticisms outside of the permitted range are abused, shamed, mocked and usually cast out. AtheismPlus (and any other movement) has no chance, no chance at all, to succeed in such a totalitarian, repressive environment.

Movements that have visions of "changing the world", or a significant portion thereof, are the ones that most attract people looking to have power over others. It's like moths to a light bulb to these people. Therefore, nascent social movements must be very wary of a person or persons coming in and saying "I know what needs to be done, and how do do it." A+ failed that test miserably, and now they are paying the price.

[another lurker]

for the Australian members:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/aus ... 17230.html

The map currently shows the weather in orange tones at the top, which indicate temperatures 40 to 48 degrees Celsius. But forecasts are predicting off-the-charts weather. As a result, pink and purple will now cover temperatures over 50 degrees Celsius—should it climb that high.

For those rusty on the temperature conversion, that is a sweat-inducing 122 degrees Fahrenheit. (The record-setting temperature of 50.7 set in 1960 has, thankfully, still not been broken.)

"The forecast coming from the bureau's model is showing temperatures in excess of 50 degrees," said David Jones, head of the bureau's climate monitoring and prediction unit.

Sheesh guys. That sounds unbearable indeed!

[Lsuoma]

Hey Axel

Welcome to the Pit, and don't worry about Ouwest - he stutters :-)

[Lsuoma]

BTW, thanks to DM from Lancs for the donation!

[Outwest]

Hey Axel

Welcome to the Pit, and don't worry about Ouwest - he stutters :-)

Oops! Didn't notice! Apologies. maybe if I had a drink or 6.

[Gumby]

My other much dumber and much rarer phobia is large maps.

I've always been a map fanatic. It never even once occurred to me that they could be the cause of a phobia. Why do you think you have this fear?

Of course you read the Strange Maps blog then. Maps are awesome, especially as collage and art journal fodder.

<------ Sez the person who just ripped pages out of an old discarded mouse genetics book and modified them as part of an art journal. Surely there is a special circle of nonexistent hell, reserved for book defacers like me.

Actually no, I hadn't known about it, but thanks to you I do now!

I've always had a fascination with maps. I always loved the editions of National Geographic that included maps, their cartography division is teh awesome. As a child, I painstakingly made my own street maps of the city I grew up in (at least, the neighborhoods I was familiar with). I got quite good at it, too. For a 10 year old armed with just a ruler and a pencil, they were amazingly accurate - even more or less to scale. And of course, nothing's cooler than centuries-old maps. They are works of art.

http://rlv.zcache.com/antique_map_postc ... li_400.jpg

[Gumby]

I just couldn't bear to see that poor dog Woolly posted. So beat down, so spiritually deadened. So, I gave him a racist hat to cheer him up.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... beb662.jpg

[mordacious1]

Hey Axel

Welcome to the Pit, and don't worry about Ouwest - he stutters :-)

Oops! Didn't notice! Apologies. maybe if I had a drink or 6.

Dog! I hope excessive drinking (oxymoron?) doesn't cause goiter. I don't think it does but you might want to add some iodine in your beer.

[franc]

Regarding Noelplum99's reply to Matt Dillahunty's video on freeze peach, the analogy (heh heh 'anal'ogy) of the "front room" that he turned back on Matt is very similar to what I've said and written over the years.

I don't moderate my social networks, or my YouTube channel. Or my blog. For the very reason that by virtue of my venues being in the public domain, I am inviting people to comment on what I said or wrote.

If you are a public figure, you must deal with the public. It's really that simple. My blog is split into two parts. The top part is mine, the bottom part is theirs. They don't have to agree with me or even like me. It's not a cult of personality.

Moderation is rarely necessary under normal circumstances. And by normal, I mean when you don't say stupid things that you are incapable of backing up with fact. It follows that if the baboons didn't say stupid things, they wouldn't need to moderate. Of course this is logical, therefore alien to them.

[justinvacula]

New Youtube video from me concerning this whole 'freeze peach' nonsense. It's not a matter of free speech, I think, but rather an issue concerning intellectual honesty. There are many good reasons for skeptics to engage with dissenters and have open comments/rare comment moderation. Unwillingness to engage with detractors, it seems, is a red-flag pointing to intellectual dishonesty in many respects:

[youtube]VjQXCl9pou4[/youtube]

[franc]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

You think that's why she's so hot for me?

Ayup. She wants you to call her a dirty slut. This is the real reason she is baiting you. Then she'll slide clean off her chair and drown in her own minge juices.

[AndrewV69]

[spoiler]

That reminds me of when they all went apeshit over some guys posting pix of themselves holding signs that said, for example:

"you are beautiful even without makeup"

Amanda Marcotte and other feminists got really angry, accusing men of 'telling women how to act' and 'mansplaining' amongst other things. The best was 'they think we need *their* approval, just more sexism'...

Here, maybe this will help:

http://i.imgur.com/1fCoY.jpg

I don't know about you, but it triggers that "seeing your 5th grade teacher outside school" awkward feeling in me.

[/spoiler]

Hmmmm. Well I do not think Amanda "man-jaw" Marcott is completely unattractive. However, that jaw of hers makes me a tad suspicious. I would want to see her 2D:4D ratio though before I made a comment. See below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio

2nd (index finger) and 4th (ring finger), is affected by exposure to androgens e.g. testosterone while in the uterus and that this 2D:4D ratio can be considered a crude measure for prenatal androgen exposure, with lower 2D:4D ratios pointing to higher androgen exposure.

[Mykeru]

Dear P.Z. Meyers,

Do you remember when you were a rational, well-regarded member of the atheist and skeptical community able to handle criticism, deal graciously with dissenting views and compete in the market of ideas?

Me neither. Rumor is you were always an ass-bag.

I did, however, hear you once nailed up a cracker, got thrown out of a movie and had an aquarium.

Good for you, I guess.

Love,

-M

[Mykeru]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

You think that's why she's so hot for me?

Ayup. She wants you to call her a dirty slut. This is the real reason she is baiting you. Then she'll slide clean off her chair and drown in her own minge juices.

Tastes like chicken.

[welch]

I've no idea if this expression exists, so hopefully I'm going to coin it right now.

Drama bait.

[spoiler]They do it for the ad revenue. The more controversial a post is the more page views it gets and consequently the more $$$ they get when Ed divives up the money. That's why PZ prevents people leaving Youtube comments and instead directs them to his blog. That's why Benson, Svan and Christina write obvious flamebait. They want drama because it makes them money. When they write about normal non-drama things they get very few comments, so I imagine they also get far fewer page views and ads served.

Some examples from Ophelia's blog:

We the peeps - 4 comments

Fluttering - 10 comments

Her mistake - 13 comments

Once upon a time in Kenya - 7 comments

This is why we can't have nice shoes - 117 comments.


Great Christina's blog:

Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters - 10 comments

“Had the girl simply surrendered…” - 117 comments

Happy Birthday To Me - 45 comments

Atheists of Color: Updating the List - 23 comments

Fashion Friday: Dressy Comfortable Shoes, and Thinking Outside the Box - 36 comments

Greta Speaking in San Francisco Sun. 1/13 - 1 comment

The Absurd Manufactured Shoe Controversy: A Brief Response - 179 comments

6 Outrageous Incidents of Discrimination Against Nonbelievers - 6 comments


And so it goes on. Meanwhile, someone utterly uncontroversial, like AronRa, typically only gets around 5-25 comments on average. I doubt very much he's in it for the money.[/spoiler]

When I was a reporter/journalist, I was told to just submit my story (NY Times, McClatchy) and the editor or someone from marketing would devise a headline. Consequently, I rarely knew what my byline would be, but I knew it would sell papers.

I write 4 to 6 news stories every day, and the headlines I choose are specifically to draw in the reader so they click on the link to read the story. The Google News Service I write for makes money by ad revenue, so this makes sense, as well. Even on my blog and my YouTube videos, I write headlines that are designed to attract readers or viewers.

There is nothing inherently wrong with doing this. What is wrong is not admitting it or acknowledging it. What is really wrong is totally manufacturing material that is supposed to be non-fiction, or over dramatizing something to the point of absurdity.

Kinda like Fox News does...

The headline thing is something I have had issues with before. Outside of my "real" blog, (bynkii.com, not the other one. That exists because I like my real readers and they deserve their innocence), I write about...well, IT issues. Nothing exciting, not really. I mean, an article on how to implement SNMPv3? Informative? Useful? Sure. Exciting? Hardly.

But every so often, I'd see a headline that made me wonder what the article under it was about and realize it was my article. WTF? But yeah, headlines need to grab your eyes, and so you get link bait.

It's necessary. Don't like it, but it is what it is.

[franc]

Hey - skip to the bold part.
Critical thinking clue: naming the fallacy you're about to commit doesn't mean you haven't committed a fallacy.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2013/ ... does-work/

I saw this, and the figures do seem to be very fuzzy.

The “Don’t Be That Guy” campaign is a public service rape prevention campaign launched in Edmonton in 2010, and adopted by other cities in Canada, which took the radical step of aiming its message, not at potential rape victims, but at potential rapists.

For fuck's sake. Seriously? "Imelda Christina"? And it's a baboon ingratiating post? This is what I mean about "quantum sardonics" folks -

http://i.imgur.com/XSDmG.jpg

Reality conspiring to randomly pair the bizarre just to fuck with your mind. The image was made days before I saw these extracts.

[Gumby]

Dear P.Z. Meyers,

Do you remember when you were a rational, well-regarded member of the atheist and skeptical community able to handle criticism, deal graciously with dissenting views and compete in the market of ideas?

Me neither. Rumor is you were always an ass-bag.

I did, however, hear you once nailed up a cracker, got thrown out of a movie and had an aquarium.

Good for you, I guess.

Love,

-M

Don't forget his proudest accomplishment of all:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sJMwLVfVcVw/S ... no_lg.jpeg

[welch]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

*pointstomynose*

*pointstoyournose*

On the nose.

Also, flaunting the privileges of monogamous heterosexuality. Again.

Sadly, having "interacted" with Simon a few times, I can see this. Fucker has less backbone than overcooked angel hair pasta, and less personality than Uncle Ben's Rice.

I'm not a fan of hensley, but if I had to live with that kind of limp-assed honkey, I'd need a lot of convincing that I shouldn't just leave him out in the woods too.

[welch]

Somebody asked if I could put a link to the last post in a thread at the bottom of every page.

I COULD do this, but it would involve me breaking the scoping of variables between forum and topic (thread) views, which I'm reluctant to do without digging more deeply into the code and looking at the structure.

In short, the answer is no, at least for the present. A quick way to get there is to go to the topic page, and click on the "Last Post" link in the topic header. This will always be present unless you've already read the last post, in which case, seek help.

Thanks!

I Blame The Patriarchy

MYKERUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

[welch]

BTW, hi pit. I mostly lurk and never leave comments anywhere. I been lurking for a long time, longer than what they [the mods] suggest you lurk at Atheism +, before posting.

Anyway, if this is really the Misogynist Central Command Headquarter, the baboons must be using a very diluted homeopathic version of the meaning.

That's our real crime: we suck at being evil.

[welch]

So am I the only one who thought the Eucliwood/LousyCanuck slashfic was funny as fuck? I hope that's what she sent to him.

Save Eucliwood! She's either an awesomely dedicated and massively entertaining Poe or pure mental energy and chaos given human form, now directed straight at the Lousy Canuck.
Either way = win.

How about not talking about the slug and feeding it the attention it wants? Use your ignore function. I do for Eucli and Steersbot. The experience is markedly improved. Once a day or so, I expand a random comment from both and find confirmation that it is still a broken record of non-content and what little guilt I may have at censoring my view of what I see is proven groundless.

Steersbot and Eucli are peas in a pod - they either repeat what irrelevancy they have said umpteen times in a closed loop, or parrot an observation made more eloquently by others. Unique content of interest - nil.

So either stop bitching about it and live with it, or do what I do.

Meh. Poking Eculidipes is more fun than poking most people. She goes all Nervous Ted so well.

[Mykeru]

I just couldn't bear to see that poor dog Woolly posted. So beat down, so spiritually deadened. So, I gave him a racist hat to cheer him up.

Racist?

[spoiler]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8229/8363 ... 616c_z.jpg[/spoiler]

[welch]

Hey Axel

Welcome to the Pit, and don't worry about Ouwest - he stutters :-)

And lsuoma's a fascist tit who can't spell names correctly.

[AndrewV69]

People should see this if you ask me:
http://i.imgur.com/wH9p8.jpg

Because it reminds me of this:

Good Men, Bad Girls
https://quietgirlriot.wordpress.com/201 ... bad-girls/

Late last year there erupted a furore over an article published at the Good Men Project, by someone who admitted to having raped someone. I am not going to re-tread over that ground now. There is a good post discussing some of the issues by our very own stoner with a boner if you are interested.

I just want to draw attention to the fact that, during this hoo ha between feminists, the GMP and others, I noticed that an essay by me, Rape Culture and Other Feminist Myths, had been removed from the Good Men Project website. Along with some work by another ‘anti feminist’ woman blogger, Girl Writes What. I don’t know the exact timing of the deletions (and my other essays for GMP were shifted from the main site to their lesser known Good Life Blog). But I am slightly perturbed that whilst it was the GMP executives, Tom Matlack and Lisa Hickey, who had caused the wrath of the feminasties, Girl Writes What and I seemed to be being scapegoated. If the GMP had ‘gone too far’ and annoyed feminist readers and writers, they had to ‘make amends’ somehow. And it looks like they have done so by removing writing that has already annoyed feminists.

Seems to be all about controlling the narrative if you ask me.

[Ape+lust]

Don't forget his proudest accomplishment of all:

[spoiler]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sJMwLVfVcVw/S ... no_lg.jpeg[/spoiler]

Proudest accomplishment +1: The Glute Check

http://i.imgur.com/pnid6.jpg

[pandora]

[spoiler]

http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png

Sorry, but this pic needs reposting.

"WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMEONE SLAUGHTERED YOUR FAMILY AND PUT THEM ON A PIZZA[?]"

WHAT?! I'm both laughing my ass off and craving some meat-lover's pizza now! :lol:

[/spoiler]

Jesus fucking Christ... A Radivegafeminist

Nope. Just a troll with quite the sense of humour.
http://sassypriest69.tumblr.com/

[Mykeru]

Hey Axel

Welcome to the Pit, and don't worry about Ouwest - he stutters :-)

And lsuoma's a fascist tit who can't spell names correctly.

Fascist tits?

[spoiler]http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/photo ... ster_2.jpg[/spoiler]

[somedumbguy]

Is there a URL to use so a visitor to a phpbb forum determine who has been banned permanently, or given temporary bans?

For instance, is there a URL to use to determine who at atheismplus has been banned, or on a temporary ban?

[Outwest]

@welch,

Recall making some recommendations for our podcast a few weeks ago? I finally broke down and bought the Blue Yeti Platinum mic. Be here tomorrow. Also downloaded the software you recommended to my Air.

[ReneeHendricks]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

I totally have a sarcasm filter. Can I have these things filtered for me?

[welch]

@welch,

Recall making some recommendations for our podcast a few weeks ago? I finally broke down and bought the Blue Yeti Platinum mic. Be here tomorrow. Also downloaded the software you recommended to my Air.

Cool, although credit for the Yeti suggestion should properly go to Angry_Drunk.

Either way, spend a little time playing with it, and when you find settings that work, jot them down somewhere so you aren't trying to remember them when something gets changed accidentally a month later.