If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Gumby wrote:Thanks much. I think I'll avoid using the Adobe products due to the licensing issues, and look at some of the free options you listed. Appreciated.

franc wrote:
Rystefn. Fuck you. I am not a lightning rod for your insecure masculinity. Thwap your cock on someone else for a change.

fascination wrote:Welch and Mykeru, thank you for sharing your stories. The whiniest people are often those who have had the easiest lives. Yet, they will call you two "privileged". What a joke. I have mentioned briefly before that I was abducted and raped when I was twelve. I too had to make a choice how I wanted to live my life...did I want to be a victim or did I want to be a survivor? I chose to be a survivor.

Eucliwood wrote:@ Rystefn I know.. I've told franc that multiple times. I've also pointed out that there are many posts being posted here, some people reply to past posts (I don't read them, to keep my own post count from exploding again), and that new posts appear while people are writing posts to what *was* the latest post. Also, many people here post things that should be judged as "content free" going by what other things franc has said are content free. (including franc's own posts, yes.) I've also told him that I cannot do anything about my explosion from posts from the past - they'll always be there. I'll always have a greater number of posts/time than other people, unless I post way less than needed just to impress or suck up to franc. I try hard - I refresh sometimes, I reply to multiple posts in one post, and I refrain from replyng to plenty of things - and he gives me no credit. Since nothing is good enough for him, and I'm tired of reading posts bitching about the number of posts I have and about how I'm a nothing of a character, I've put him on ignore.

Damn you for quoting his post. The context can be guessed with but your reply. That would've been better than reading his post. (kidding.. you didn't know).

franc wrote:

Rystefn wrote:

franc wrote:Seriously, make your own fucking thread. The 1000 comment barrier has easily been broken a fair while back. Outside of being a checklist for logical fallacies, it is about as scintillating, and rational, as arguing about abortion. Folks have to understand that this quasi-religious fetish is not everyone's cup of tea, and no matter how crucial and important you may believe your opinion is, outside of your ego bubble, it's not. Every time the conversation seems to die down, like a zombie in a cheap horror flick it rises again from the grave and just keeps going.

So please, make your own thread. Pretty please?

Every time you comment just to bitch about people having a conversation you don't care about, I wonder if you realize that it makes you complaining about Eucli's "content-free spam" more hypocritical than anything every posted on FTB. Probably not, because you're special and wonderful and every fucking thought that drifts through your skull simply MUST be shared with the world. Ass.

Rystefn. Fuck you. I am not a lightning rod for your insecure masculinity. Thwap your cock on someone else for a change.

Lsuoma wrote:

A+ Forum: 193 posts in the past 22.5 hrs
Tues January 9, 7:30pm PST Total posts 61286
Wed January 9, 6:00pm PST Total posts 61479

That's sure some fancy calendarin' there, pardner!

Mykeru wrote:[spoiler]

fascination wrote:Welch and Mykeru, thank you for sharing your stories. The whiniest people are often those who have had the easiest lives. Yet, they will call you two "privileged". What a joke. I have mentioned briefly before that I was abducted and raped when I was twelve. I too had to make a choice how I wanted to live my life...did I want to be a victim or did I want to be a survivor? I chose to be a survivor.

And praising you for overcoming it, as much as you could, is not the same as minimizing what happened to you or yelling "get over it".

Empathy doesn't have an on/off switch, it's capable of infinite nuance. We can simultaneously hold that being raped at twelve is an unimaginably horrible thing -- all abuse when visited on children is just that much more horrible-- and be awed by how you survived and even thrived.

Did I mention I worked for Head Start? That my then GF, the one whose sister was murdered in such a horrible, selfish, pointless way, was an investigator for CPS? That she herself was abused by her stepfather? That the abuse escalated until it couldn't be hidden, that he hit her until her head bounced off a wall into the next blow and she thought to herself "I am a basketball". When her mother found out, she chased the guy out of the house with a cleaver?

How many of these fuckers, who feign empathy and compassion so as to suck money for new shoes and are willing to sell the movement down the fucking toilet for the buffet at a conference actually worked in social services in any capacity? Nah, because the easy money is in talking shit and scraping up the cash.

We can feel for you without understanding. I admit, I can't understand what happened to you was like. If I did I would be so full of shit. But I can empathize to the best of my limited grasp.

And I honor you, and your strength, and the maxim "the best revenge is living well" for moving past it. Not forgetting it. Not pretending it's no big deal. But for transcending.

The thing that really bothers me is the low view of people expressed by the professional victims. As if they are defined by nothing more than the bad things that happened to them, or more likely could happen to them, or they imagine will happen, or something.

If we are just the sum of our experiences, and the bad ones at that, then just what are we?

On one hand I get frustrated by Ophelia Benson and Melody Hensley just making shit up, claiming that the people we are -- in their feeble, nasty rat's ass imaginations -- are inevitably violent or stalkers or bullies, but then that annoyance is mitigated by the pity I feel for people, one of which is well into late, late middle age, that is a mental and emotional 12 year old.

Really, when they hold up their victimhood and show such disdain for how you overcame your worst experiences, you should just haul back and spit in their faces.[/spoiler]

justinvacula wrote:New comment. Too bad this is not a Poe.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... requested/

Jwms wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:

Tfoot wrote: Stefanelli's org has Jerry Coyne scheduled for a talk in Atlanta for a mere $15.

@Ape Lust... The Jerry Coyne event is not being sponsored by "Stefanelli's org" so please get your facts straight before posting. The event is hosted by 2 local secular groups in Georgia, one of which is Fayette Freethought Society, the group I founded back in 2010. Stefanelli is no longer a member of our group.

Julie Williams

Pitchguest wrote:Look, Zvan, since you're obviously reading this site, the problem isn't that you were sexually assaulted (the problem is never that you were sexually assaulted), the problem is you keep moaning about it every chance you get.

justinvacula wrote:More propaganda from Ophelia Benson and Secular Woman president Kim Rippere on a new Ron Lindsey thread:

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... requested/

#1 Kim Rippere (Guest) on Wednesday January 09, 2013 at 6:05pm
CFI Member, WiS attendee, and I just happen to be the President of Secular Woman. I am looking forward to meeting you at HEADS.

I think we need to find ways to better welcome, integrate, listen to, and accept women as equal participants in the secular community and social movement. I am including IRL and online.

Leaders need to be vocal in their support of women; otherwise, the main voices driving the conversation regarding feminism and secularism tend to be extreme and noninclusive. They alienate women in the movement and those that are checking the movement out to see if it is something of interest.

As for feminism influencing missions . . . YES. Secularism is about getting religion out of government. Much of how religion infests our government has to do with religious zealots attempting (and recently succeeding) to pass religious-based legislation regarding a women’s right to her own body. For this reason, for many women secularism and feminism are intimately intertwined.

#2 Ophelia Benson on Wednesday January 09, 2013 at 6:33pm
What Kim said. Frankly I don’t have much hope at this point that the differences can be narrowed or resolved. With big name guys throwing vitriol at selected Enemy Women and all but holding them up as targets, it seems to me that women are just going to say the hell with it and stay away. I know several who have already decided that. That is of course the goal of the guys throwing vitriol, and I think they’re going to get their way.

#3 Kim Rippere (Guest) on Wednesday January 09, 2013 at 6:45pm
If they win and women stay away secularism will slowly dwindle and with it any hope that atheism and secularism will win the day. Instead it will be a group of people isolated in their beliefs that have no hope of making impact at any level. The hope that many have of a vibrant and impactful social movement rests on our ability to fully include women. IMO.

Rystefn wrote:because he's one of those people who just can't let it go,

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
That's a right cunt's move from Pitchguest. A fucking despicable thing to say, and makes me suspect you're a 23-year old who got a bit vexed about something and posted without thinking. But that sounds like I'm trying to make an excuse for your words, and that ain't so.

Stefunny is "moaning" about being sexually assaulted? And you think she needs to stop doing that? On her own fucking blog?

"Moaning"? What a cunt's choice of words. Like she'd been short-changed at a supermarket one time.

Plus: "every chance she gets"? It's her fucking blog, she has infinite chances to refer to the assault. I don't remember the last time she did so. Yeah, there's a bunch of people trying to co-opt atheism's established structure and increasing public appeal in order to Trojan Horse the fringes of radical feminism into the mainstream. And they need resisting. Strongly.

But this was a new fucking low, in my opinion.

Eucliwood wrote:@ Rystefn I know.. I'll always have a greater number of posts/time than other people, unless I post way less than needed just to impress or suck up to franc. I try hard - I refresh sometimes, I reply to multiple posts in one post, and I refrain from replyng to plenty of things - and he gives me no credit. ….

Steersman wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:@ Rystefn I know.. I'll always have a greater number of posts/time than other people, unless I post way less than needed just to impress or suck up to franc. I try hard - I refresh sometimes, I reply to multiple posts in one post, and I refrain from replyng to plenty of things - and he gives me no credit. ….

You don’t really need any credit from him or anybody else, although it’s nice to receive. But it’s a learning process for all of us – at least for most of us ….

P.S. Like your new signature. Although you might indicate its source ….

Richard Dworkins wrote:[spoiler]A friend of mine, a long while ago, who is a reasonable fellow, once pointed me to an article in Vogue (or Cosmo, though I seem to recall it was Vogue) The question of the article was "Have you ever been sold fake tickets online?"

He brought this to my attention because both of us were exhausted by the conversations we had with seemingly smart people who could not see that Feminism was actually a negative movement. It did not wish, like the more established women's rights movement, for women to be treated as equals, though they claimed that.

The article's headline brought this home neatly. The question was not "Have you ever bought fake tickets?" Because to do so would be to admit two things.

1. Women are responsible actors.
2. Women make mistakes.

This lead me to look through my wife's glossy chinwagrags And time and time again from the Glossies to the Celebrity Stalker magazines there is a type of language that is used commonly to absolve women of any blame for anything usually with a subtle implication that whatever happens that is negative is somehow a man's fault. Fake-tits McAirhead, rolls around coked out of her mind half naked and preganant? Well it's not her fault, she just split up with her boyfriend.[/spoiler]

It really hit home to me when locally there was a case were a woman murdered her children, savagely, with a knife. I heard two women talking about it. The first had, in error, automatically assumed that it was the father and when corrected, when told no, it was the mother, replied "yeah, well I bet her man drove her to it."

Anecdotal, certainly, nor would I claim that even a large minority think this way, but it is clear to me, at this late stage that there are those fighting for women and human rights and those who just fear men. Feminism is increasingly a club for the latter bunch, a coterie of spoiled and vindictive shrews.

Altair wrote: It was approved, and you got a response from Crommunist himself

Visions. You’re talking about having visions

Actually he’s NOT. The only reference to visions happens in the post-script of the post that you clearly didn’t bother reading. So I dunno, go fuck yourself and your manufactured outrage?

My head is spinning

Which must mean that your asshole is clean as a whistle by now.

Mykeru wrote:

Rystefn wrote:because he's one of those people who just can't let it go,

Pour yourself a beer, chicken-head:

http://www.oakleafbrewing.co.uk/images/ ... small).jpg

Now, all kidding aside, now that you've all done sever really boring, soul destroying rounds, if you all go meta and have a conversation about the conversation about the conversation, I will start kicking your asses.

Huh? What?

No, shut the fuck up.

[youtube]GX6pPfgLjvI[/youtube]

And you, Rystefn, fuck you buddy. Suck my zipple. You can't tell anyone shit for the rest of your life. Why? Because you're a fucking dry erase board for drunk, greasy fat chicks. Your dignity? It's stuck to a turd wrapped in TP bobbing in the Sargasso Sea about now.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

Pitchguest wrote:Look, Zvan, since you're obviously reading this site, the problem isn't that you were sexually assaulted (the problem is never that you were sexually assaulted), the problem is you keep moaning about it every chance you get.

That's a right cunt's move from Pitchguest. A fucking despicable thing to say, and makes me suspect you're a 23-year old who got a bit vexed about something and posted without thinking. But that sounds like I'm trying to make an excuse for your words, and that ain't so.

Stefunny is "moaning" about being sexually assaulted? And you think she needs to stop doing that? On her own fucking blog?

"Moaning"? What a cunt's choice of words. Like she'd been short-changed at a supermarket one time.

Plus: "every chance she gets"? It's her fucking blog, she has infinite chances to refer to the assault. I don't remember the last time she did so. Yeah, there's a bunch of people trying to co-opt atheism's established structure and increasing public appeal in order to Trojan Horse the fringes of radical feminism into the mainstream. And they need resisting. Strongly.

But this was a new fucking low, in my opinion.

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

franc wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:

CommanderTuvok wrote:

Tkmlac wrote:Loving how every time one of them posts something they found on the 'Pit, they have to justify having gone there with "traffic stats," or "someone pointed this out."

Tee hee. I don't buy it either. There is always a good number of "guests" here at The Pit, and I have long suspected some of the Baboons keep tabs on what happens here. After all, somebody has to keep informing Ophelia of when someone says "CUNT". In fact, she's probably just been alerted to my usage in this message.

Return of Kibo...

franc is old and crusty enough to get that.

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Eucliwood wrote: Damn you for quoting his post. The context can be guessed with but your reply. That would've been better than reading his post. (kidding.. you didn't know).

AndrewV69 wrote:

Eucliwood wrote: Damn you for quoting his post. The context can be guessed with but your reply. That would've been better than reading his post. (kidding.. you didn't know).

You guys are killing me, but yes by all means put each other on ignore who is winding you up.

Or not ... just realize I (and possibly others) are getting some very cheap entertainment out of this.

(and no peeking either)

justinvacula wrote:New comment. Too bad this is not a Poe.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... requested/
[spoiler]

#4 Soraya Chemaly (Guest) on Wednesday January 09, 2013 at 7:11pm
HI - I’m a secular feminist writer and media critic and regularly write and speak on the topic of gender in culture. As a firm and vocal believer in secularism, I too, think that it is vital that as we develop this community we are aware of how thoroughly our broader cultural norms exclude women and their perspectives. And how easily these broader cultural norms are being seamlessly transferred into this environment as it grows. It’s not enough to say “we’ve invited women” or “there’s a woman presenting,” etc. Rather, we need good men who understand what is at stake and explicitly advocate as allies on behalf of women. We will not move the needle unless men engage in genuine bystander intervention to confront the perpetuation of very subtle but powerful influences that inhibit parity for women. Both as individuals and as members and usually leaders of institutions. Because of the simple fact that men literally rule - in politics, religion, media, etc. - they have a disproportionate cultural currency. How we leverage that currency in the secular world shouldn’t accidental, but should be deliberate - especially if you want to cultivate diversity and not just gender diversity. Because the understanding of difference that is the foundation of gender bias is the same one that serves to feed racial, ethnic, sexual and other biases. It seems to me that this cultural currency can either be spent to perpetuate patriarchy and misogyny and sexism or to create an environment where women, and others who do not conform to our prevalent norms - especially of leadership and visibility - are not only tolerated, but openly embraced as a class and where men with influence who are interested in doing the right thing and creating a more just world advocate on their behalf and are outspoken allies.

[/spoiler]

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Eucliwood wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Well, I misremembered your avatar. Whatever you are, you're very cute, so please flounce away, honey.

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

aweraw wrote:[spoiler]

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

[/spoiler]


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 498622.jpg

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Eucliwood wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:@ Rystefn I know.. I'll always have a greater number of posts/time than other people, unless I post way less than needed just to impress or suck up to franc. I try hard - I refresh sometimes, I reply to multiple posts in one post, and I refrain from replyng to plenty of things - and he gives me no credit. ….

You don’t really need any credit from him or anybody else, although it’s nice to receive. But it’s a learning process for all of us – at least for most of us ….

P.S. Like your new signature. Although you might indicate its source ….

Okay, steersman, let me rephrase - he still bitches about me, as if I am doing the opposite of trying with my posting. That's very annoying. ….

I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

Outwest wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

You had me laughing so hard, I was in tears, "Anteater Guy" :lol:

Eucliwood wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Well, I misremembered your avatar. Whatever you are, you're very cute, so please flounce away, honey.

fascination wrote:Well Ophelia, there's plenty of women involved in secularism that aren't backing down. There's Abbie Smith, Miranda Hale, Harriet Hall, Paula Kirby, Sara Mayhew, Barbara Drescher, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Bridgit Gaudett, etc. Oh, and there's tons of women here on the Slymepit!

Eucliwood wrote:I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

DownThunder wrote:[spoiler]

Eucliwood wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Well, I misremembered your avatar. Whatever you are, you're very cute, so please flounce away, honey.

[/spoiler]

An anteater:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goaustralia/1/0/9/i/kiwi.jpg

A beaverduck:
http://www.amamoorlodge.com.au/images/p ... imming.jpg

A llamarabbit:
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/1232 ... -large.jpg


Thus concludes todays lesson on Australasian wildlife for American tourists.

DownThunder wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Well, I misremembered your avatar. Whatever you are, you're very cute, so please flounce away, honey.

An anteater:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goaustralia/1/0/9/i/kiwi.jpg

A beaverduck:
http://www.amamoorlodge.com.au/images/p ... imming.jpg

A llamarabbit:
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/1232 ... -large.jpg


Thus concludes todays lesson on Australasian wildlife for American tourists.

Ape+lust wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

There's room in mine...

Eucliwood wrote: So, you're seriously from Freethought Blogs?

KiwiInOz wrote:Awww, guys. I'm feeling harassed. On the internet.

KiwiInOz wrote:

Ape+lust wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

There's room in mine...

Awww, guys. I'm feeling harassed. On the internet.

The police also opened fire on protesters with live ammunition. Women were willing to DIE for the right not to get raped to death. Oh if the young lady who got raped lived her assailants would have got just TWO YEARS in jail as a maximum sentence.

3. Gang Rape ( Sec.376 Subsection 2- g)
“Where a woman is raped by one or more in a group of persons acting in furtherance of their common intention, each of the persons shall be deemed to have committed gang rape within the meaning of this sub-section. ”
Thus even if five men force a women into having sexual intercourse with only one of them, the remaining four will also be considered to have committed rape under this law. Punishment
Rigorous imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than ten years but which may be for life and shall also be liable to fine: Provided that the court may, for adequate and special reasons to be mentioned in the judgment, impose a sentence of imprisonment of either description for a term of less than ten years.

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Mykeru wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

Of course not. You're kind of a rat with a big milky-white loogie booger hanging from your nose.

Rystefn wrote:I don't recall ever claiming to have any dignity. You can level a lot of accusations at me, but at least I ain't a hypocrite.

Outwest wrote:Why do I press submit once, and some times get a double post?

Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish. [Proverbs 12:1]

Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured. [ibid 13:18]

He who refuses correction despises his own soul, but he who listens to reproof gets understanding. [ibid 15:32]

A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool. [ibid 17:10]

Altair wrote:

Outwest wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

Eucliwood wrote:.
I don't have any room to indicate the source in the sig, or I would have. That one anteater guy said it.

That one anteater guy. That ONE ANTEATER GUY????

I am not an anteater guy. Get ready for an almighty flounce.

You had me laughing so hard, I was in tears, "Anteater Guy" :lol:

Same here, it was hilarious :lol:

franc wrote:

Rystefn wrote:I don't recall ever claiming to have any dignity. You can level a lot of accusations at me, but at least I ain't a hypocrite.

No, "hypocrite" would imply self-awareness.

ReneeHendricks wrote:I tell you, I'm feelin' the loooove.

Mykeru wrote:

ReneeHendricks wrote:I tell you, I'm feelin' the loooove.

Should we wait here while they fellate each other?

astrokid.nj wrote:PeeZus touted his Indian minion Avicenna's "takedown" of an AVFM article on India. I dont debate feminists, but I thought I would just correct a seriously flawed fact. I really dont like people spreading fictitious memes about India. I will log it here as a record of their intellectual dishonesty.
[spoiler]Astrokid.NJ
January 9, 2013 at 3:48 AM (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment

The police also opened fire on protesters with live ammunition. Women were willing to DIE for the right not to get raped to death. Oh if the young lady who got raped lived her assailants would have got just TWO YEARS in jail as a maximum sentence.

Are you sure about this?
Rape Laws in India

3. Gang Rape ( Sec.376 Subsection 2- g)
“Where a woman is raped by one or more in a group of persons acting in furtherance of their common intention, each of the persons shall be deemed to have committed gang rape within the meaning of this sub-section. ”
Thus even if five men force a women into having sexual intercourse with only one of them, the remaining four will also be considered to have committed rape under this law. Punishment
Rigorous imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than ten years but which may be for life and shall also be liable to fine: Provided that the court may, for adequate and special reasons to be mentioned in the judgment, impose a sentence of imprisonment of either description for a term of less than ten years.

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Shplane, Spess Alium
January 9, 2013 at 4:56 AM (UTC 5.5)
@Astrokid
Note the last part. The court is capable of offering a lower sentence. I don’t know, specifically, what was going on, and it may be caused by something else entirely, but presumably the courts often bend the meaning of “adequate and special” to provide much shorter sentences.

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Avicenna
January 9, 2013 at 11:37 AM (UTC 5.5)
...
I will admit, I was unaware of differences however a quick look through prior cases shows an average of 5 years of incarceration and most people getting off with a slap on the wrists and even fines. The judicial system is insufficiently geared towards prosecution of rape effectively because so many people walk free…
...
A bunch of MRA’s whinging about queues is not what India needs. It’s the LAST thing that Indian women need.

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Astrokid.NJ
January 9, 2013 at 11:48 AM (UTC 5.5)
@Avicenna:
For full disclosure, I am an MRA and I hang out at AVFM, and I am Indian. Of course, our opinions are poles apart, and we arent getting into any dialogue anytime soon.


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Nepenthe
January 9, 2013 at 12:33 PM (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
I love Astrokid’s 14.
Translated: “I just stopped by to make sure that you know how misandric Indian rape laws are. Yes, I realize that no one has ever actually been</i sentenced to 10 years for raping a woman with a bunch of their friends, but I still think you ought to know that it's possible.”

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Astrokid.NJ
January 10, 2013 at 9:05 AM (UTC 5.5) Link to this comment
@17: Nepenthe:
Anjana Mishra rape case
Anjana Mishra rape case was a high profile rape case that occurred in state of Orissa (India) in 1999. Anjana Mishra, estranged wife of an Indian Forest Service officer, was raped on 9 January 1999. The case had created a furore in the State with Anjana accusing the then Chief Minister J. B. Patnaik and his friend former Advocate-General of Orissa Indrajit Ray of having played a role in the incident…
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After a long battle, Anjana Mishra has won her case. In a judgment delivered on 29 April 2002 the District and Sessions Judge of Khurda, Orissa, sentenced two of the three accused persons in the case to life imprisonment and a fine of Rs.5,000 each. Judge Mahendra Nath Patnaik convicted Pradip Sahoo and Direndra Mohanty on charges of sexually assaulting Anjana while she was travelling in a car from Cuttack to Bhubaneswar along with a friend on 9 January 1999 . The third accused, Biban Biswal, is still absconding.[/spoiler]

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Mykeru wrote:

Mykeru wrote:

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Mykeru wrote:

Mykeru wrote:

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