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What is this referring to? I'm afraid I've missed this particular kerfuffle.Darren wrote:http://i.imgur.com/H1dkP.png
Just wait five minutes for the next one ;)John Brown wrote:What is this referring to? I'm afraid I've missed this particular kerfuffle.
In a nutshell - Justin Griffith's latest blog post concerning Greg Laden's doxxing of Mykeru -http://freethoughtblogs.com/rockbeyondb ... ine-rival/ - had a part where he claimed that Bluharmony gaslighted Laden and doxxed herself. This has since been edited by JG - Bluharmony, having presumably seen the unedited version, is therefore spitting razors over it.John Brown wrote:Can anyone glean what's going on between @bluharmony and Justin Griffith on Twitter?
Ah. Quite a dishonest move, that. Better to leave the offending post in tact and amend with a correction and an apology, rather than send it down the memory hole.Tigzy wrote:In a nutshell - Justin Griffith's latest blog post concerning Greg Laden's doxxing of Mykeru -http://freethoughtblogs.com/rockbeyondb ... ine-rival/ - had a part where he claimed that Bluharmony gaslighted Laden and doxxed herself. This has since been edited by JG - Bluharmony, having presumably seen the unedited version, is therefore spitting razors over it.John Brown wrote:Can anyone glean what's going on between @bluharmony and Justin Griffith on Twitter?
Al, did you light a cigarette and then talk for 11 minutes without taking a puff? I guess that's one way of cutting back on smoking.Al Stefanelli wrote:
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I dunno, if he starts singing Gilbert & Sullivan at me, I'd run like hell.papillon wrote:Greg (General ass kicker) Laden wrote: … I do not regard physical threats as unimportant. It is just that I am a very large, muscular man with martial arts training who never goes anywhere without my pit bull, and I always carry a gun. I am also famous for kicking ass, generally.....and your talent as a writer.Greg (General ass kicker) Laden wrote:I may or may not have exaggerated about the pit bull, the gun, and the marshal arts.
The difference is that the white males on Al's "hate list" happen to be white and happen to be male. Race and gender doesn't enter into it. However, in non-plussedville it's white privilege and male privilege. The bad guys in their little fairytale are white males in various forms, old, able-bodied, heterosexual. While in Al's case (and I'm speaking unequivocally here) it's because they're insufferable douchecanoes up shit creek.
I'm steadily getting to where I have no fucks to give about Justin or his fucking "cause". I didn't have a problem with him disassociating from the 'pit before, I understood why. But his latest round is coming up self-serving as fuck, and almost a bit oolonish in terms of playing both sides. He's also coming across as kind of stupid and desperate:Mr Danksworth wrote:Response from Justin to Tigzy....Justin Griffith response:
This will be the only comment I let through like this.
To the anti-FTB: people I vehemently disagree that ‘all of FtB’ supports Laden. Initially, I even gave off signals that they didn’t have to publicly ‘have my back’. The only reason they may have even entertained not dropping him was because nothing like that had ever happened before, and hindsight is 20/20. You’ll never know how great Ed Brayton was to me on the phone. You’ll never know how many of the people here privately wrote to me in support. It really meant a lot to me, and you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Yeah, there are like two people here on cordial terms with him… that’s a pretty good percentage for a group of people connected only by atheism.
Several of my co-bloggers who you describe as not giving a shit about military activism have agreed to speak at military bases, or even joined the lineup at RBB2. Your premise is just wrong. When you say they don’t even care about skepticism anymore, you’re also talking about me. You’re also talking about people who never claimed to care about skepticism. Some are biblical scholars, scientists, or philosophers. Some write about sexuality and gender issues, we even have a drunken chef who likes good music. It’s not a perfect harmonious family, but what the hell did you expect?
I messed up a bit too. I pissed them off and I apologized. I also accidentally allowed people to freely shitting on my friends here. I am much better at moderating comments now. Though you didn’t say this, I want to address one last point. I don’t see why people think it’s for the $ or the hits. I donate every penny to charity / activism, and it isn’t that much.
To the anti-Justin Griffith people:Conversely, the other side of the narrative is off too. You’ll never know how many top-tier atheists wrote to me in confidence, expressing their condolences at my treatment. You’ll never know how I detested being fit into the ‘slyme pit’ narrative, appearing on their ‘body count list’ etc. Few of you will ever know the stresses of dealing with multiple credible death threats, and how an activist with my level of visibility simply has to take all of them seriously and let the FBI make the call. You likely won’t realize the extreme restraint I used, and part of me still regrets not doing so. Like I said, I wouldn’t expect somebody like Laden to fight fair, it doesn’t take a genius to ambush somebody.
If you give a shit about harassment, threats, and mental health issues like PTSD, what is your deal? Stop it.
To everyone: Do not rehash the elevator gate, or talk about why you hate RW, or shit like that. Do not respond to it if it gets by me temporarily. I’m going to heavily moderate this discussion. It is what it is. Stay only on the topic of the content of this post. Or don’t comment if you can’t hold back.
So you're the fat chick they'll fuck, but when anyone else is around, they don't know you. Awesome dude, way to rock the self-esteem. I guess as long as they wash their dicks after they pull out of your ass, but before they jizz on your face, it shows they really care. Okay, they call you a fat fucking cow when their friends are around, but they always lube you up before anal, so they really respect you.To the anti-FTB: people I vehemently disagree that ‘all of FtB’ supports Laden. Initially, I even gave off signals that they didn’t have to publicly ‘have my back’. The only reason they may have even entertained not dropping him was because nothing like that had ever happened before, and hindsight is 20/20. You’ll never know how great Ed Brayton was to me on the phone. You’ll never know how many of the people here privately wrote to me in support. It really meant a lot to me, and you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Yeah, there are like two people here on cordial terms with him… that’s a pretty good percentage for a group of people connected only by atheism.
Greg wanted to play Internet badass. He made that decision. That it now bites him in the sack is of little worry to me. I'd be quite happy were he to start blogging about, you know, science on his scienceblogs site and stop being so fucking creepy towards Abbie. But if he wants to play double-down douche, fine with me, I'll play. There are 7B people in the world. Laden or me or really anyone being gone because they couldn't take the shit they doled out is not even a trajedi, much less a tragedy. He wants this crusade, he can have alllll of it.Gefan wrote:I apologize in advance for exceeding my non-existant seniority around here but maybe it's time we all back away from Greg Laden.
I don't know that much about him but he seems to be (a) increasingly emotionally fragile and (b) rendered harmless by his own sheer ineptitude. How far does someone's life have to progress down the crapper for them to start pining for the Stephalump for fuck's sake?
I don't know what the end-game is here and I don't have any desire to drive him to suicide. Aside from anything else, I'd miss the entertainment.
And, because I can't be bothered to do it myself, whoever wants to post the inevitable, Chris Crocker "Leave Greg Alone" picture, you have my blessing.
I have no desire to push someone to the point of Stephalump. However, reading over Greg Laden's tweets and posts, yeah, there's no way this guy is anywhere near this edge (though I could be wrong). He is a sad little man attempting to flex is flaccid muscles in order to make the likes of Watson and Benson squeal. I'm sure he's accomplished this thus far so maybe would *could* back off in our honesty.Gefan wrote:I apologize in advance for exceeding my non-existant seniority around here but maybe it's time we all back away from Greg Laden.
I don't know that much about him but he seems to be (a) increasingly emotionally fragile and (b) rendered harmless by his own sheer ineptitude. How far does someone's life have to progress down the crapper for them to start pining for the Stephalump for fuck's sake?
I don't know what the end-game is here and I don't have any desire to drive him to suicide. Aside from anything else, I'd miss the entertainment.
And, because I can't be bothered to do it myself, whoever wants to post the inevitable, Chris Crocker "Leave Greg Alone" picture, you have my blessing.
Believe it or not, I actually have a bookmark that goes straight to his book in my tabs on this computer. I use it as a reference for helping people to write and to think about what they're writing - it's a great example of "what not to do".Punker wrote:I hope that the people posting these book reviews have actually read the book
I am an Indian living in the US for several years now. I saw through the feminist bullshit "historical oppression of women" narrative quite easily because of my background.. growing up in India, in simpler times in a collectivist system.. joint families and no runaway individualism. No points for guessing who absorbs all the violence (sample), who gets all the responsibilities such as providing for the family..including parents. Any shirking of responsibilities will earn you social shaming. They have even set up a law now whereby old parents can sue their children-with-means if they dont take care of parents in old age. Sure there's loads of crime, but by and large if you mess with a woman against her will, her brothers or father or white knights will bash you up.John Brown wrote: I've been following this story for the past few days. It's quite remarkable and I believe the whole event and the aftermath speaks volumes. Rape is so abhorrent that a documented, public case of it is enough to trigger mass protests, to the point where the police are needed to gas and beat back the mob.
It seems to me that the reaction should be heartening to feminists world wide, especially since it's happening in a country which is quite literally patriarchal in nature (though not nearly as much as it was even in the recent past).
Now, imagine if it were a man not being gang raped, but brutally murdered by a gang of people on the street.
What would the reaction be to that?
I saw that and opted to just be quiet. It's over the fucking top irritating because Ed will not lose much money in the whole scheme of things. I know that my guy and I most likely make less than he and his...yet, we would never, ever feel the need to beg publicly for money. I let it go by with Greta but this is just the beggar's fucking straw. I have no compassion left for these people. And I have to say it's completely because of my own personal code of ethics. Ed and Greta just fucking stomped all over that code.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ed Brayton's had some heart surgery, and has now realized that his and Meyers's vanity project ain't gonna cover his down time.
So, he's gone the Greta route and has the begging bowl out:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -you-help/
Interesting. I'll have to read through the links and rectify my ignorance on the matter. I admittedly know very little about Indian culture and was relying on "conventional wisdom" when I spoke about their "patriarchal system."astrokid.nj wrote:I am an Indian living in the US for several years now. I saw through the feminist bullshit "historical oppression of women" narrative quite easily because of my background.. growing up in India, in simpler times in a collectivist system.. joint families and no runaway individualism. No points for guessing who absorbs all the violence (sample), who gets all the responsibilities such as providing for the family..including parents. Any shirking of responsibilities will earn you social shaming. They have even set up a law now whereby old parents can sue their children-with-means if they dont take care of parents in old age. Sure there's loads of crime, but by and large if you mess with a woman against her will, her brothers or father or white knights will bash you up.John Brown wrote: I've been following this story for the past few days. It's quite remarkable and I believe the whole event and the aftermath speaks volumes. Rape is so abhorrent that a documented, public case of it is enough to trigger mass protests, to the point where the police are needed to gas and beat back the mob.
It seems to me that the reaction should be heartening to feminists world wide, especially since it's happening in a country which is quite literally patriarchal in nature (though not nearly as much as it was even in the recent past).
Now, imagine if it were a man not being gang raped, but brutally murdered by a gang of people on the street.
What would the reaction be to that?
FTB == Frequently Try Begging.ReneeHendricks wrote:I saw that and opted to just be quiet. It's over the fucking top irritating because Ed will not lose much money in the whole scheme of things. I know that my guy and I most likely make less than he and his...yet, we would never, ever feel the need to beg publicly for money. I let it go by with Greta but this is just the beggar's fucking straw. I have no compassion left for these people. And I have to say it's completely because of my own personal code of ethics. Ed and Greta just fucking stomped all over that code.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ed Brayton's had some heart surgery, and has now realized that his and Meyers's vanity project ain't gonna cover his down time.
So, he's gone the Greta route and has the begging bowl out:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -you-help/
I think Justin has a strong need to belong. I seem to recall that he was pretty messed up before joining the military. The structure and emphasis on unit probably is really good for him and he pays it back with extreme loyalty. I suspect the same type of thing is going on with him over at FTB.welch wrote: I'm steadily getting to where I have no fucks to give about Justin or his fucking "cause". I didn't have a problem with him disassociating from the 'pit before, I understood why. But his latest round is coming up self-serving as fuck, and almost a bit oolonish in terms of playing both sides. He's also coming across as kind of stupid and desperate:
OI! say what you like, but anal with fat chicks rocks!welch wrote:
So you're the fat chick they'll fuck, but when anyone else is around, they don't know you. Awesome dude, way to rock the self-esteem. I guess as long as they wash their dicks after they pull out of your ass, but before they jizz on your face, it shows they really care. Okay, they call you a fat fucking cow when their friends are around, but they always lube you up before anal, so they really respect you.
How many years in total? Hard to say.Greg Laden was born in Albany New York and subsequently lived in the Boston area and Milwaukee and spent a total of several years in Zaire (now Congo) and South Africa.
I don't even understand them asking for money at this point. They live in the US, do they want people to pay for their entire surgery experience? Are they trying to avoid medical debt entirely? I kind of assumed that most people just like... accept it, work out a mortgagey style plan with their bank/whatever, and live with it... or something.ReneeHendricks wrote:I saw that and opted to just be quiet. It's over the fucking top irritating because Ed will not lose much money in the whole scheme of things. I know that my guy and I most likely make less than he and his...yet, we would never, ever feel the need to beg publicly for money. I let it go by with Greta but this is just the beggar's fucking straw. I have no compassion left for these people. And I have to say it's completely because of my own personal code of ethics. Ed and Greta just fucking stomped all over that code.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ed Brayton's had some heart surgery, and has now realized that his and Meyers's vanity project ain't gonna cover his down time.
So, he's gone the Greta route and has the begging bowl out:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -you-help/
I think it has more to do with "I'll be out of work and not paid so give me money to compensate". Fucking irritating beyond belief.rayshul wrote:Aw fuck I can't help myself. From his bio:
How many years in total? Hard to say.Greg Laden was born in Albany New York and subsequently lived in the Boston area and Milwaukee and spent a total of several years in Zaire (now Congo) and South Africa.
OKAY, I AM A HYPOCRITE, I ADMIT IT BUT FUCK. FUCK.
I don't even understand them asking for money at this point. They live in the US, do they want people to pay for their entire surgery experience? Are they trying to avoid medical debt entirely? I kind of assumed that most people just like... accept it, work out a mortgagey style plan with their bank/whatever, and live with it... or something.ReneeHendricks wrote:I saw that and opted to just be quiet. It's over the fucking top irritating because Ed will not lose much money in the whole scheme of things. I know that my guy and I most likely make less than he and his...yet, we would never, ever feel the need to beg publicly for money. I let it go by with Greta but this is just the beggar's fucking straw. I have no compassion left for these people. And I have to say it's completely because of my own personal code of ethics. Ed and Greta just fucking stomped all over that code.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ed Brayton's had some heart surgery, and has now realized that his and Meyers's vanity project ain't gonna cover his down time.
So, he's gone the Greta route and has the begging bowl out:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -you-help/
They all need to learn fucking saving and financial responsibility and shit.ReneeHendricks wrote:I think it has more to do with "I'll be out of work and not paid so give me money to compensate". Fucking irritating beyond belief.rayshul wrote: don't even understand them asking for money at this point. They live in the US, do they want people to pay for their entire surgery experience? Are they trying to avoid medical debt entirely? I kind of assumed that most people just like... accept it, work out a mortgagey style plan with their bank/whatever, and live with it... or something.
So I said "Slap that!" and ride the ripples.Guest wrote:OI! say what you like, but anal with fat chicks rocks!welch wrote:
So you're the fat chick they'll fuck, but when anyone else is around, they don't know you. Awesome dude, way to rock the self-esteem. I guess as long as they wash their dicks after they pull out of your ass, but before they jizz on your face, it shows they really care. Okay, they call you a fat fucking cow when their friends are around, but they always lube you up before anal, so they really respect you.
I came for the banter and now you abuse my missus
fuck you dude fuck you.....
Doubtful. Junkies tend to be skinny.jimthepleb wrote:i thought stef-e-lump was a smack-head in a previous life?
In fact, I did. Lmao. I smoked two afterward, just to catch up.mordacious1 wrote:Al, did you light a cigarette and then talk for 11 minutes without taking a puff? I guess that's one way of cutting back on smoking.Al Stefanelli wrote:
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Shit. When I first heard about your partner's medical situation I asked if you had a Paypal account. If you took offense to that, I apologize.ReneeHendricks wrote:I saw that and opted to just be quiet. It's over the fucking top irritating because Ed will not lose much money in the whole scheme of things. I know that my guy and I most likely make less than he and his...yet, we would never, ever feel the need to beg publicly for money. I let it go by with Greta but this is just the beggar's fucking straw. I have no compassion left for these people. And I have to say it's completely because of my own personal code of ethics. Ed and Greta just fucking stomped all over that code.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ed Brayton's had some heart surgery, and has now realized that his and Meyers's vanity project ain't gonna cover his down time.
So, he's gone the Greta route and has the begging bowl out:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -you-help/
IANACS*, but several things about this story don't seem quite right, or at least seem exaggerated for dramatic effect. First of all, a morbidly obese person with an unhealthy lifestyle has had "open heart surgery", lymph node biopsies, and three chest tubes placed, and is blogging away merrily just a few days later? I'd believe that a sternal window was made and fluid drained from his thorax, but I'm having trouble with the "open heart surgery" part, which I associate with coronary artery bypass, aneurysm repair, valve replacement, heart transplant, or correction of a congenital heart defect. I'm thinking sternum sawed in half, rib spreaders, heart-lung machine, the whole bloody nine yards, and I don't think that's what Ed had. Call me hyper-skeptical. Also call me a person who worked as a nurse aide on a cardiovascular floor for the pre- and post-op patients of a certain Dr. M.E. DeBakey. Patients who came back to the floor from the ICU after having open heart surgery wouldn't have been up to the task of blogging for the first few days, had such a thing existed ... I know, because I was usually the one who had to convince them and help them to sit up on the edge of the bed ("dangle") and then walk the first time post-op. All of that would have been even more difficult, complicated, and prolonged for a patient who was Ed's size.real horrorshow wrote: Which is about my position on the 'Greg Laden may be close to the edge' notion. It's also my position on Ed Brayton:So, Black and Decker to the sternum and they are shocked to find a ton of fluid in my chest, pushing down on my heart and lungs and making my heart go into overdrive to keep oxygen in my system. They do a biopsy on the lymph nodes, clean things up, install three chest tubes and sew me back up. Sometime in the middle of the night, I ripped out my ventilator tube (I told them that better not be on my bill, I did it myself). As for what caused all of this, that’s still not certain.
Here's what bugs the living shit out of me - my guy may very well have to deal with some awful shit. He'll still go to work nearly every day he's able. Even if he's dragging ass, feels like shit, everything hurts, he'll still go to work. People like Greta and Ed? They'd rather beg for money. And that hits me on some serious levels now.rayshul wrote:They all need to learn fucking saving and financial responsibility and shit.ReneeHendricks wrote:I think it has more to do with "I'll be out of work and not paid so give me money to compensate". Fucking irritating beyond belief.rayshul wrote: don't even understand them asking for money at this point. They live in the US, do they want people to pay for their entire surgery experience? Are they trying to avoid medical debt entirely? I kind of assumed that most people just like... accept it, work out a mortgagey style plan with their bank/whatever, and live with it... or something.
Same for me: pharma scam sites.franc wrote:Is it just me? Go to google and search tubgirls place using the string format -
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First I thought I picked up some browser hijacker, but I haven't - only his site barf's up this shit.
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Curious for someone else to try.
Oh! No offense at all!! The thing is, my guy and I are used to doing things with very little, if we have to. Neither of us will look toward family or whatever for financial help. It's the way we are and the way we were brought up. I appreciate it when people offer to help, believe me. But it's very hard to take.Gefan wrote:Shit. When I first heard about your partner's medical situation I asked if you had a Paypal account. If you took offense to that, I apologize.ReneeHendricks wrote:I saw that and opted to just be quiet. It's over the fucking top irritating because Ed will not lose much money in the whole scheme of things. I know that my guy and I most likely make less than he and his...yet, we would never, ever feel the need to beg publicly for money. I let it go by with Greta but this is just the beggar's fucking straw. I have no compassion left for these people. And I have to say it's completely because of my own personal code of ethics. Ed and Greta just fucking stomped all over that code.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ed Brayton's had some heart surgery, and has now realized that his and Meyers's vanity project ain't gonna cover his down time.
So, he's gone the Greta route and has the begging bowl out:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -you-help/
Regarding Laden, "drive someone to Stephalump" should become part of the lexicon. Also, I don't think he will, as Mykeru put it, "put a bullet through his brain" because I very much doubt he's that good a shot.
I don't know what Laden's financial situation is. That apartment in his building was going for $829 (per month I guess), but that was a one bedroom, maybe the Laden's have one one of the larger flats. Apparently $829 is below average in his home town, which is a tough place to rent. I don't know how that compares with the US generally. His previous place looked nicer and the one before that was much nicer. So maybe he is coming down in the world.rayshul wrote:[snip]
I am also not super down with fucking with Laden because when people have nothing to lose they go a bit nuts and also because, well, he's now reduced to a really pathetic situation. While he's not homeless yet I'd still think of him with the same level of sympathy at this point (despite earlier being repulsed). If his behavior becomes too erratic and it looks like he's in danger of hurting himself, I think it would be good to contact someone who might be able to help him reorganise/refocus.
You mean the previous [now deleted] comments from JG about Maria “doxing herself� I think JG recognized that that was a mistake and removed the statements. However, as someone else pointed out, that seems somewhat worse than useless – I likewise figure JG should have left the offending comment there and then have fallen on his sword – figuratively speaking – in apologizing for his error. But I agree with you about Maria.rayshul wrote: Fuck, I hate it when people fuck with blu. She's such a nice person. Just a really nice goodnatured person. She doesn't deserve that shit. Especially as it doesn't seem even fucking relevant.
Tend to agree with that as well. While Laden seems definitely to have crossed the line in the doxing department, some of the attacks against him are starting to show some similarities with bear-baiting; gratuitous savagery ….I am also not super down with fucking with Laden because when people have nothing to lose they go a bit nuts and also because, well, he's now reduced to a really pathetic situation. ….
Nah! You're overthinking this. He's behaving like a textbook bully. It's actually banal as hell the way he resorts to threats and self important bluster. He's not cracking up, he's just an emotional toddler who doesn't get how transparent he is.I am also not super down with fucking with Laden because when people have nothing to lose they go a bit nuts and also because, well, he's now reduced to a really pathetic situation. While he's not homeless yet I'd still think of him with the same level of sympathy at this point (despite earlier being repulsed). If his behavior becomes too erratic and it looks like he's in danger of hurting himself, I think it would be good to contact someone who might be able to help him reorganise/refocus.
Tired and couldn't be arsed to wrack the noggin, but I read the suggestion somewhere today that Lardyarse's current address info is being telegraphed like he's begging someone to do a Lardy on him. Could it be fake info?I don't know what Laden's financial situation is. That apartment in his building was going for $829 (per month I guess), but that was a one bedroom, maybe the Laden's have one one of the larger flats. Apparently $829 is below average in his home town, which is a tough place to rent. I don't know how that compares with the US generally. His previous place looked nicer and the one before that was much nicer. So maybe he is coming down in the world.
My Google-fu yielded different results, FWIW.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:Horrors:Tired and couldn't be arsed to wrack the noggin, but I read the suggestion somewhere today that Lardyarse's current address info is being telegraphed like he's begging someone to do a Lardy on him. Could it be fake info?I don't know what Laden's financial situation is. That apartment in his building was going for $829 (per month I guess), but that was a one bedroom, maybe the Laden's have one one of the larger flats. Apparently $829 is below average in his home town, which is a tough place to rent. I don't know how that compares with the US generally. His previous place looked nicer and the one before that was much nicer. So maybe he is coming down in the world.
Heh. I don't know why, but this reminds me of that scene in Sicko where Michael Moore sends a check to his cyberstalker with a dedicated hate site to Moore to pay for his wife's hospital bills. It was either pay her bills or close down the site, to which the kicker was, "Fuck you, Michael Moore" - Michael saw that, sent a hefty check and the guy's still blogging.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:Rayshul:Nah! You're overthinking this. He's behaving like a textbook bully. It's actually banal as hell the way he resorts to threats and self important bluster. He's not cracking up, he's just an emotional toddler who doesn't get how transparent he is.I am also not super down with fucking with Laden because when people have nothing to lose they go a bit nuts and also because, well, he's now reduced to a really pathetic situation. While he's not homeless yet I'd still think of him with the same level of sympathy at this point (despite earlier being repulsed). If his behavior becomes too erratic and it looks like he's in danger of hurting himself, I think it would be good to contact someone who might be able to help him reorganise/refocus.
You don't understand. They are entitled.rayshul wrote:They all need to learn fucking saving and financial responsibility and shit.ReneeHendricks wrote:I think it has more to do with "I'll be out of work and not paid so give me money to compensate". Fucking irritating beyond belief.rayshul wrote: don't even understand them asking for money at this point. They live in the US, do they want people to pay for their entire surgery experience? Are they trying to avoid medical debt entirely? I kind of assumed that most people just like... accept it, work out a mortgagey style plan with their bank/whatever, and live with it... or something.
Retracting. Seems I'm wrong, and the phrase is a bit older than Schultz's beginning.Sulaco wrote:A dark and stormy night? Really Greg plagiarizing Snoopy/Charles Schultz. Sad, just sad. No, make that contemptible.
I do understand the return attacks because he is attacking people without remorse (and without dignity). I like TFJ's characterisation here:Steersman wrote:Tend to agree with that as well. While Laden seems definitely to have crossed the line in the doxing department, some of the attacks against him are starting to show some similarities with bear-baiting; gratuitous savagery ….rayshul wrote:I am also not super down with fucking with Laden because when people have nothing to lose they go a bit nuts and also because, well, he's now reduced to a really pathetic situation. ….
But it's just a bit sad now. Because he's 54 and he's not very good at the whole writing-thing and he feels like he should be a figure of pity. I don't react to people shouting on the street unless I think they're going to get into a dangerous situation, it feels like the same kind of thing.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:Nah! You're overthinking this. He's behaving like a textbook bully. It's actually banal as hell the way he resorts to threats and self important bluster. He's not cracking up, he's just an emotional toddler who doesn't get how transparent he is.
Rats, Foiled again!Sulaco wrote:
A dark and stormy night? Really Greg plagiarizing Snoopy/Charles Schultz. Sad, just sad. No, make that contemptible.
Retracting. Seems I'm wrong, and the phrase is a bit older than Schultz's beginning.
Bulwer Lytton, I believe.Sulaco wrote:Retracting. Seems I'm wrong, and the phrase is a bit older than Schultz's beginning.Sulaco wrote:A dark and stormy night? Really Greg plagiarizing Snoopy/Charles Schultz. Sad, just sad. No, make that contemptible.
Bulwer-Lytton.Sulaco wrote:Retracting. Seems I'm wrong, and the phrase is a bit older than Schultz's beginning.Sulaco wrote:A dark and stormy night? Really Greg plagiarizing Snoopy/Charles Schultz. Sad, just sad. No, make that contemptible.
Predating Schulz by a bit more than a century. "It was a dark and stormy night" was first coined by novelist Edward Bulwer-Lytton in 1830.Sulaco wrote:A dark and stormy night? Really Greg plagiarizing Snoopy/Charles Schultz. Sad, just sad. No, make that contemptible.
Epic review:Mykeru wrote:
Yes indeed. Old Greggy's book is down to 2.5 stars.
I posted back when Greta did her begging. No, I didn't donate and I know that several from here did. Well, those that did, thought differently. Okay. Everyone does as they feel they need to do at the time. I felt no sympathy for her because it was only TWO weeks she was talking about being unable to "work".ReneeHendricks wrote:Here's what bugs the living shit out of me - my guy may very well have to deal with some awful shit. He'll still go to work nearly every day he's able. Even if he's dragging ass, feels like shit, everything hurts, he'll still go to work. People like Greta and Ed? They'd rather beg for money. And that hits me on some serious levels now.rayshul wrote:They all need to learn fucking saving and financial responsibility and shit.ReneeHendricks wrote:I think it has more to do with "I'll be out of work and not paid so give me money to compensate". Fucking irritating beyond belief.rayshul wrote: don't even understand them asking for money at this point. They live in the US, do they want people to pay for their entire surgery experience? Are they trying to avoid medical debt entirely? I kind of assumed that most people just like... accept it, work out a mortgagey style plan with their bank/whatever, and live with it... or something.
You give them far too much credit. Old dogs can be trained, but very few NTs.Dilurk wrote:Gumby wrote:That is one thing that has always been clear to me. "The world would be a far better place without humans."I know more than a few atheists that want no part of the entire enterprise any longer. I am losing interest in atheist activism, myself and can find little motivation to do much more than make swipes at religion and the way that it affects society. Beyond this, I want to do little else; because I am finally starting to see that it is not religion that makes society shitty. It is people.
It has never been just religion It has always been dogma and our emotional clinging onto dogma. This is why being a freethinker is difficult for some as learning to think with the grey matter not the pineal gland is very hard for NTs. Though they can with training.