Periodic Table of Swearing

#21001

John Greg wrote:Tony Parsehole asked:

Dude, did you see the part in video where Matt started explaining A+?

No, Tony, I did not. I am quite completely unwilling and uninterested in watching such an overlong piece of poorly recorded, low-fi piece of shit to find something to be angry about.

However, as I have stated before, if you can point me to a specific and acurate time location / timestamp to wherever it is that Dillacunty flibs and flubs, I would be more than willing to give it a looksee.

But I am most certainly not going to take anyone's word on it (I am not a Baboon), and neither am I going to waste two hours of my time searching through some audio/video-dysfunctionally impaired piece of SMPTI non-time/image/vocal-synced junk to find something that might not even be there.

Jesus, it's like the old Slime Pit at ERV, how many, many, many times do we need to say, ACCURATE LINKS, QUOTES, and TEXT people! Or shut the fuck up. Anecdotal anecdata and no links; no text? Fuck off. Just fuck off.

Jeebles, I almost never "shout" in text , but the laziness and presumptive assumptions of holier-than-thou posters, on whatever site, really burns my flaccid texticales. Sizzle-fucking-sizzle ... sorry sacha, I know you will miss them.

Seriously, I am pissed about this. There have been well over a dozen posts stating how Dillashitty was A+ owned on that video, and either the posts linked to or stated a timestamp that had nothing to do with anything A+ whatsoever at all, or they just said Go see this (endlessly long and boring video) to see Dillaboob boobed without specifying a specific timestamp ... so, well, just fuck off.

You want to make a point? Great. Excellent. Then make it precise and specific and do not fucking make me (or anyone else) fucking search the fucking Internet or an endlessly fucking boring two hour fucking audio/visually impaired video to fucking find it. Is that really so fucking fucking complicated?

:violin:

#21002

John Greg wrote:Tony Parsehole asked:

Dude, did you see the part in video where Matt started explaining A+?

No, Tony, I did not. I am quite completely unwilling and uninterested in watching such an overlong piece of poorly recorded, low-fi piece of shit to find something to be angry about.

However, as I have stated before, if you can point me to a specific and acurate time location / timestamp to wherever it is that Dillacunty flibs and flubs, I would be more than willing to give it a looksee.

But I am most certainly not going to take anyone's word on it (I am not a Baboon), and neither am I going to waste two hours of my time searching through some audio/video-dysfunctionally impaired piece of SMPTI non-time/image/vocal-synced junk to find something that might not even be there.

Jesus, it's like the old Slime Pit at ERV, how many, many, many times do we need to say, ACCURATE LINKS, QUOTES, and TEXT people! Or shut the fuck up. Anecdotal anecdata and no links; no text? Fuck off. Just fuck off.

Jeebles, I almost never "shout" in text , but the laziness and presumptive assumptions of holier-than-thou posters, on whatever site, really burns my flaccid texticales. Sizzle-fucking-sizzle ... sorry sacha, I know you will miss them.

Seriously, I am pissed about this. There have been well over a dozen posts stating how Dillashitty was A+ owned on that video, and either the posts linked to or stated a timestamp that had nothing to do with anything A+ whatsoever at all, or they just said Go see this (endlessly long and boring video) to see Dillaboob boobed without specifying a specific timestamp ... so, well, just fuck off.

You want to make a point? Great. Excellent. Then make it precise and specific and do not fucking make me (or anyone else) fucking search the fucking Internet or an endlessly fucking boring two hour fucking audio/visually impaired video to fucking find it. Is that really so fucking fucking complicated?

John, the time stamp should be around 1h23/1h24 and onward for a bout a minute or two. I didn't really see anything very exceptional, except maybe for the caller's short 'gotcha' moment with "reality+".

#21003

How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all

#21004

John, if you want to avoid as much talk as possible, the time stamp is getting to what is being discussed at 1:44:41.

#21005

Pinker wrote:How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all

It could seem that way, but it's a point lot's of us have made on ERV's Pit threads. Always link links, be precise...etc, anything to protect the Pit from being accused of dishonnesty. It was a very important point for John back then, and it's still one now (for me too).

#21006

It's hardly a pwning moment with Dillahunty but it does show that simply mentioning Atheism plus tends to cause spontaneous laughter. I can't tell what was going on in Matt's head but he didn't look too pleased to have A+ brought into the conversation. I think it highlights the potential for LOLs that A+ is going to have in situations where random people can bring it up out of the blue (as in the Atheist Experience show.)
The caller was fairly inept but still managed to school Matt on the meaning of secularism which, I'm afraid, draws attention to another problem with Matt - the fact that he is seemingly bored with the whole thing. He used to be enthusiastic and bright on air but for the past year or so he's really gone downhill. He doesn't seem interested any more and behaves in a bad humored and bad mannered way to his callers. He's lucky to have Russell Glaser alongside him - a person so inept and stupid he makes Matt come across like Bertrand Russell.

#21007

Dick Strawkins wrote:It's hardly a pwning moment with Dillahunty but it does show that simply mentioning Atheism plus tends to cause spontaneous laughter. I can't tell what was going on in Matt's head but he didn't look too pleased to have A+ brought into the conversation. I think it highlights the potential for LOLs that A+ is going to have in situations where random people can bring it up out of the blue (as in the Atheist Experience show.)
The caller was fairly inept but still managed to school Matt on the meaning of secularism which, I'm afraid, draws attention to another problem with Matt - the fact that he is seemingly bored with the whole thing. He used to be enthusiastic and bright on air but for the past year or so he's really gone downhill. He doesn't seem interested any more and behaves in a bad humored and bad mannered way to his callers. He's lucky to have Russell Glaser alongside him - a person so inept and stupid he makes Matt come across like Bertrand Russell.

The caller was indeed inept, but I liked the witty delivery on that point. (paraprhasing, I'm not good at transcripts):

Caller: -for me it's reality and God
Matt: -so you just take reality and add a qualifier?
Caller: -Reality+ *laughters from the audience*

#21008

Errr...John. I only asked you if you watched the video. I never posted the original link nor demanded you watch the entire thing. I just asked if you watched teh video. Shocking, I know.
I'm sorry you are on the rag, really I am, but maybe you should watch that temper. You might be mistaken for Spokesgay.

#21009

Dick Strawkins wrote:*snip*
The caller was fairly inept but still managed to school Matt on the meaning of secularism which, I'm afraid, draws attention to another problem with Matt - the fact that he is seemingly bored with the whole thing. He used to be enthusiastic and bright on air but for the past year or so he's really gone downhill. He doesn't seem interested any more and behaves in a bad humored and bad mannered way to his callers.
*snip*

I always remember Matt saying if he ever got bored with on-air debating (or seemed bored, I'm paraphrasing) that the viewers/fans should let him know and he'd stop.....

#21010

Dick Strawkins wrote: http://i.imgur.com/gYCJU.jpg

By the way...am I the only person who reads "Massimo Pigliucci" and imagines a famous, Italian clown? >_>

I can't help it, and I'm not even sure where it's coming from...

#21011

Pinker wrote:How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all

I DON'T FUCKING FUCKING KNOW DO I YOU FUCKING CUNTHOLE FUCK!!??

#21012

Tony Parsehole wrote:If anybody is interested here's that video by Zinnia Jones' partner Heather.
Trigger warnings for droning voice, feminist claptrap/arrogance, eyes like a monkeys arsehole.
[youtube]mlTZtnayx6M[/youtube]

I'm stuck on trying to work out why the television in a grotto, or whatever the fuck that space is? If we'd moved into that house, my mother would've had a statue of the Blessed Virgin in that thing in two shakes of a lamb's tail.

Come Christmas the Nativity Scene would've occupied the little grotto adjacent.

#21013

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Pinker wrote:How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all
I DON'T FUCKING FUCKING KNOW DO I YOU FUCKING CUNTHOLE FUCK!!??

I'm still reading the archives, I'll try to find the comments where this overreaction started as a meme (I think it was after Justi threw is first tantrum). Don't think anything of it. After all, even our very polite and erudite MKG did engage in it at times, IIRC.

Couch: Looks more like an alcove to me, or maybe just a quite nice TV fixture.

About your sig: I've just now realized that if Laden's "on the rag" comment was not personal, it was general (ie: aplying to all women) and thus probably the very first case of generalized slur towards women we've seen so far. Interesting...

#21014

That is an incredibly odd house now you point it out.

#21015

Praying to the head of FTB? ;)
http://i.imgur.com/JQHd2.jpg

#21016

rayshul wrote:That is an incredibly odd house now you point it out.

I tried to watch the video twice but the weird vocal affectation threw me. And then I started obsessing about the not-quite-matching alcoves (thanks Phil, 'alcoves' is more apt. Grottos belong in Lourdes, not the lounge room - although Nativity Scenes really do work in any room or shopping centre).

#21017

The thing about Zinnia Jones is that reading her is a bit like reading Francis Collins - there is plenty of good, factually based observations on show, plus an unhealthy dose of loopy ideology.
She is very young - she was 19 when she got mixed up in the Bradley Manning/Wikileaks business, and that's only a couple of years back or at the most three.
Her girlfriend, Heather, is down with the radfem talking points and Zinnia seems to go along with them so I guess this is the underlying ideology that slants her particular pronouncements.

#21018

Badger3k wrote: Ever since Matt gave his "The ACA supports A+" BS and all the doc dropping shite from Martin, I've put aside listening to their podcasts in favor of other ones. Have they pulled out of the tv station or has their time slot gotten bigger? They were down to one hour last I cared. Just curious and not caring to listen to the whole thing now - maybe someday, but I got better things to do.

The Atheist Experience is still a one hour show, but for whatever reason, they got the network to allow them an extra hour for that day - maybe because of the Texas freethought convention being that weekend in Austin.
They are planning to make it an internet only show from their own studio just as soon as they have the ability to match the audio visual quality they have from the community TV station.

To those complaining about time stamps - it was just posted as something that may amuse people - not as a potential entry to phawrongula.
It was one of those things where the more you were in tune with the context of the conversation, the funnier it was. If you cant be bothered, no big deal - sheesh

#21019

Rystefn wrote:There was a bit more conversation, but I'm too lazy to cut out and quote all of it.

I am unsurprised to see thinly-veiled threats of the sort "someone might do something terrible to you one day for this." As I said before, I don't generally make a habit of associating with folk who tend to think violence is the solution to all of life's little annoyances. More to the point, I don't let the unjustified rage of others dictate my behavior. I will draw pictures of your prophet, I will deny your holy spirit, I will sleep with people of the same sex and different colors, and I will fuck your girlfriend. I am aware that there are raging idiots out there who are perfectly willing, even eager, to do me violence for those things. I will do them anyway, lest they think that's the appropriate method of getting their way.

Oh, and if you get territorial over your girlfriend, stop being a dick. She's a person, not your fucking property.

I don't by know how much more you could have missed my points by on a finite planet. First, Ophelia -

* you are "unsurprised to see thinly-veiled threats of the sort "someone might do something terrible to you one day for this."" (I think this is how cuntkick spun out of control)

* More importantly, you assume I am violent and that I spoke in general about myself - whereas I was speaking in generalised terms of animal instincts that you, plainly, have no capacity to comprehend and even less ability to predict.

Thank you Ophie. But your "epistemically relativist" interpretation means little to a base animal like me. Here's a simpler image for you - consider your car is repossessed and it is in a yard full of half-starved Rotweillers. It's your right to get it back isn't it? It's also your value judgment that the Rotweillers will sympathise with your "rights".

You assume too much of your fellow man - nowhere is it written that your enlightened libertine philosophy is a passport for your selfish gratification. Sorry, but the planet sucks eh?

You also omit the fact that I stated at least twice that I neither care nor want to change your behaviour. All I want is for folks like you to have awareness of consequence. If you choose to fuck with someone else's relationship, you are accountable for your actions and you share your burden of responsibility for repercussions. You can't just spurt your load, throw your hands in the air, say, "hey I'm done" and walk. If you trigger a chain reaction of emotional carnage, you cannot shirk your responsibility for it or any consequences of it. To claim that you can is spoiled child talk - you want everything and you want to pay nothing.

All I ever said from the outset is that I am an animal and I do not suppress my animal instincts. But, I am self-aware, therefore have a degree of self-restraint. Others have neither my awareness nor my self-restraint.

I refrained from pointing out the selfishness and narcissism of your "philosophy". Also the sense of "entitlement" to transgress conventional social boundaries with disregard for effect on others. But I do so now - your response has encapsulated the unsaid perfectly.

#21020

acathode wrote: Also, Magic Sandwich Show 37
They discuss free speech/expression and PZ Myers closing his youtube comments the first part, for about 30 min. I liked what c0nc0rdance said towards the end (around the 30-35 min mark), that the way someone deals with criticism tells us a lot about that persons' integrity, and especially as skeptics and rationalists,

Wonder how long it is until c0nc0rdance is branded heretics by the FTB crowd...

It really has come to something when *Casesandmaterials* (caller Robert) is the one coming to your defence though.
I do find it odd how the "youtube atheists" see themselves as a separate entity - defending the integrity of said youtubers seems to be all Concordance is interested in.

#21021

franc wrote:All I ever said from the outset is that I am an animal and I do not suppress my animal instincts. But, I am self-aware, therefore have a degree of self-restraint.

Before the nitpickers arrive -

I do not suppress my animal urges or try to. At all. But I do keep them on a leash when civilisation warrants it. I lust, but I keep my lusts under rational controls (in my book, lusts include violence against grievance). Contra religionists who claim to have conquered lusts, yet bugger choirboys in the chapel. And contra Rystefn who lusts, wants no leash and no responsibility to even try. Toddler wants ice-cream, even if mommy and daddy die...

#21022

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Pinker wrote:How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all
I DON'T FUCKING FUCKING KNOW DO I YOU FUCKING CUNTHOLE FUCK!!??

because on the internet people are just as full of bullshit, lies, and anger as in real life but they are also weak and unsure. On the internet a keyboard also doubles as a spine/confidence.
When are people going to understand the extreme effect not being accountable for what you say or do as it happens has on people? The internet is real but it doesn't translate to real life because most people are fucking limp and can/will not stand up for what they think, say , or do.
Now --is cunthole redundant or not? I'm not real clear on that. I'm thinking it isn't

#21023

Sorry if I'll skip this whole sex-life discussion. Each to their own.

About fat/obese people: I've dated a chubby girl for about 5 years, 12 years ago or so. Drunken night, both feeling horny, ended in a long time relationship. Mind you, she was chubby, not that behemoth we can see on the Wiscon picks. There's a limit to everything, I guess.

You can call me a fat-hater, maybe, because I find this kind of physic repulsive. Mind you, I've never seen anyone this fat out of my stays in Florida. And I've travelled quite a bit...

#21024

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Pinker wrote:How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all
I DON'T FUCKING FUCKING KNOW DO I YOU FUCKING CUNTHOLE FUCK!!??

Just in-case anyone was unclear that quote above was my fail attempt at humour.

#21025

Reap wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Pinker wrote:How do people like John Greg survive day-to-day life when they get so angry over nothing at all
I DON'T FUCKING FUCKING KNOW DO I YOU FUCKING CUNTHOLE FUCK!!??
because on the internet people are just as full of bullshit, lies, and anger as in real life but they are also weak and unsure. On the internet a keyboard also doubles as a spine/confidence.
When are people going to understand the extreme effect not being accountable for what you say or do as it happens has on people? The internet is real but it doesn't translate to real life because most people are fucking limp and can/will not stand up for what they think, say , or do.
Now --is cunthole redundant or not? I'm not real clear on that. I'm thinking it isn't

I'm thinking it is redundant but sounds good.

#21026

real horrorshow wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Oh, and another little tattletroll from Oolon spotted in the wild there, too.

I'm actually thinking of making some Top Trumps from Oolon's missives: each message could have a score based on:

Vacuity
Lies
Troll factor
Racism
Homophobia

So that one - let's see...

Vacuity: 90/100 (cos it's a pointless post, as ever)
Lies: 95/100 (we're, uh, stalkers, appreantly)
Troll Factor: 100/100 (will it be anything but?)
Racism: 0/100 (makes a nice change)
Homophobia: 5/100 (the 'meatspace stalker' thing suggests latent homphobia)

I also reckon there should be a score for 'sucking Myers' gross derrier in the hope being let back into the treehouse'.
Typical for oolon is this:
One thing Iâ€™ve never understood is why if you are so irrelevant and full of it do they need to â€˜baboon watchâ€™ and ridicule anything you say?
How many times has he brought this up? How many times has it been explained to him?
If Since you're lurking oolon:
1. Because people who want to make themselves the Thought Police bear watching no matter how ridiculous they are.
2. For the lulz.
Actually, I think ooly's just too fond of this to give it up. It's the juvenile argument: "If we're so crap why do you pay any attention to us?" Answer: It's because you're so crap! There's no mileage in mocking serious, thoughtful, intellectually capable people. Even if you disagree with them, you have to take them seriously. Baboons, on the other hand, run around with their big red arses on show.

Oh it has been slymesplained to me plenty of times... But I don't accept that -
"These people want to make themselves the thought police"
I also don't accept that even if your proposition was true, and they do, that they could possibly even in 'francs' wildest FtBs wet dream actually manage to force the thought processes of anything other than an insignificant percentage of the sceptic-atheism community down a "rad-fem" rabbit-hole or wherever you think they are leading. They do make reasoned arguments that stand on their own to be criticised, accepted or rejected the same as any other group of sceptic-atheists.

"For the lulz." Your choice to spend your time that way, but don't expect to be taken any more seriously than any other facebook meme generator. I might even get a couple of laughs out of this place but I won't take it seriously by definition. Maybe my fault and you don't think you have any particular point that "we" need to get - was point 1. for the lulz too!

Oh and who are these people...??
There's no mileage in mocking serious, thoughtful, intellectually capable people. Even if you disagree with them, you have to take them seriously.
... I take it you didn't like the Richard Dawkins episode of South Park? Or are you thinking of ERV and 'franc', etc as your 'serious, thoughtful, intellectually capable people' here? Who? I'd really like to know so I can hunt them down and mock them :twisted:

#21027

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Sorry if I'll skip this whole sex-life discussion. Each to their own.

About fat/obese people: I've dated a chubby girl for about 5 years, 12 years ago or so. Drunken night, both feeling horny, ended in a long time relationship. Mind you, she was chubby, not that behemoth we can see on the Wiscon picks. There's a limit to everything, I guess.

You can call me a fat-hater, maybe, because I find this kind of physic repulsive. Mind you, I've never seen anyone this fat out of my stays in Florida. And I've travelled quite a bit...

Is there really a position that states that disliking physically obese women is somehow sexist?
If you reverse it I would never think that a woman is somehow misandrist if she feels no attraction to grossly obese men.
How about the stereotypical image of the kind of men that most women dislike - the overweight slob, living in his parents basement.

Being grossly overweight is not simply a physical aspect you cannot change (like race or gender orientation) but is usually the result of behavior - eating too much and not exercising enough. How is it sexist to find such behaviors unattractive?

#21028

Steersman wrote:
welch wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:27 am

LOTS OF SNIPPING, because it's starting to wander in the weeds. ....

Group A [AtheismPlus] has a message [Atheism plus Social Justice] they are sending.
Group B [CLS & SlymePit?] is saying that message is not being particularly well-received.

Oolon is saying that based solely on the membership numbers of Group A over Group B, that because Group A has more members, Group B's point isn't really valid.

Not on reactions to Group A's message, or any other criteria. Just on membership numbers. Because Group A has more people, aka, is more popular, then Group B's assertion is incorrect.
Yes, I think that is a fair summary and that it is essentially correct. However, I think your conclusion doesnâ€™t follow:

I really cannot see how that is anything but arguing from popularity.
If Oolon was arguing that the message â€“ atheims plus social justice â€“ was correct because it was more popular then you would be right that it was â€œarguing from popularityâ€. But heâ€™s not â€“ heâ€™s simply saying that the message is well-received, i.e., more popular - something you've essentially agreed with in the summary above.

It is not that the message is correct, only that it is more popular â€“ within some subset of the entire community that may or may not be representative of that community. It is not arguing from popularity to assert or accept that the definition for â€œpopularityâ€ is essentially â€œwell-receivedâ€, at least in this case â€“ even if it might be so only for 51% of the population.

But that doesn't tell you if the message is well received. There's nothing in either number to indicate that. To show that, you have to actually analyze the numbers. How many people just have accounts to see how long it takes the A+ twats to ban them even if they never post or log in. How many made an account, got sick of that shit and left, without killing the account or drama. how many just lurk to watch the train crash, or actually feel safe there. Etc.

The ONLY thing those numbers show is how many people have signed up for the forums. They can't be taken seriously as some kind of indication of message approval. Fuck, people will stop to watch a jumper. It doesn't mean they all approve of suicide, or are pro-jump off a building. I mean, obviously, you can try to extrapolate "approval" from the numbers, but it's beyond weak.

#21029

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Sorry if I'll skip this whole sex-life discussion. Each to their own.

About fat/obese people: I've dated a chubby girl for about 5 years, 12 years ago or so. Drunken night, both feeling horny, ended in a long time relationship. Mind you, she was chubby, not that behemoth we can see on the Wiscon picks. There's a limit to everything, I guess.

You can call me a fat-hater, maybe, because I find this kind of physic repulsive. Mind you, I've never seen anyone this fat out of my stays in Florida. And I've travelled quite a bit...

I fucked a 350 pound aboriginal/russian rape crisis centre worker for about two weeks. Am I going to make that up? Not my problem. I knew her for about 10 years and rather liked her because we shared music not politics socially. But then she ran in to some of my writing. This was close to 2 decades ago. Haha. Ophelia thinks she can make stuff up and demonise. Amateur Prune. You're an AMATEUR cobweb cunt.

Funny how you can blot memories out. This fat-love thing opened up a sewer grate. To be honest, I have no negative memories of the experience, no regrets, and it was a willing exchange of fluids. All I am a bit bitter about is how easily these kinds of folks can trash long term friendship on the basis of a few pages of print they have not even tried to comprehend beyond ideological transgression.

Fuck her. Probably dead face down in a 6-pack of falafel plates by now (yes, vegan on top of the rest).

#21030

apropos of Oolon leaving yet another slime trail...

I have found the true explanation of life, the universe, and motherfucking EVERYTHING:

http://www.searchlores.org/realicra/bas ... pidity.htm

#21031

welch wrote:
Steersman wrote:
welch wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:27 am

LOTS OF SNIPPING, because it's starting to wander in the weeds. ....

Group A [AtheismPlus] has a message [Atheism plus Social Justice] they are sending.
Group B [CLS & SlymePit?] is saying that message is not being particularly well-received.

Oolon is saying that based solely on the membership numbers of Group A over Group B, that because Group A has more members, Group B's point isn't really valid.

Not on reactions to Group A's message, or any other criteria. Just on membership numbers. Because Group A has more people, aka, is more popular, then Group B's assertion is incorrect.
Yes, I think that is a fair summary and that it is essentially correct. However, I think your conclusion doesnâ€™t follow:

I really cannot see how that is anything but arguing from popularity.
If Oolon was arguing that the message â€“ atheims plus social justice â€“ was correct because it was more popular then you would be right that it was â€œarguing from popularityâ€. But heâ€™s not â€“ heâ€™s simply saying that the message is well-received, i.e., more popular - something you've essentially agreed with in the summary above.

It is not that the message is correct, only that it is more popular â€“ within some subset of the entire community that may or may not be representative of that community. It is not arguing from popularity to assert or accept that the definition for â€œpopularityâ€ is essentially â€œwell-receivedâ€, at least in this case â€“ even if it might be so only for 51% of the population.
But that doesn't tell you if the message is well received. There's nothing in either number to indicate that. To show that, you have to actually analyze the numbers. How many people just have accounts to see how long it takes the A+ twats to ban them even if they never post or log in. How many made an account, got sick of that shit and left, without killing the account or drama. how many just lurk to watch the train crash, or actually feel safe there. Etc.

The ONLY thing those numbers show is how many people have signed up for the forums. They can't be taken seriously as some kind of indication of message approval. Fuck, people will stop to watch a jumper. It doesn't mean they all approve of suicide, or are pro-jump off a building. I mean, obviously, you can try to extrapolate "approval" from the numbers, but it's beyond weak.

I agree. You need some indication of how active each member is in the A+ forum.
To most people the general ideas suggested for the positive aims of Aplus sound reasonable (basically combatting bigotry and promoting equality).
Putting them into effect, however, has been a disaster and that is bound to affect whether people want to involve themselves in the A+ messageboard drama.

#21032

oolon, slimy turd wrote:Or are you thinking of ERV and 'franc', etc as your 'serious, thoughtful, intellectually capable people' here?

Oolon, you're my equal like Richard Reid is.

:eabod:

#21033

Oolon, born in the wrong place

#21034

franc wrote:
oolon, slimy turd wrote:Or are you thinking of ERV and 'franc', etc as your 'serious, thoughtful, intellectually capable people' here?
Oolon, you're my equal like Richard Reid is.

:eabod:

Oolons basic mistake (apart from being a slimy lying twat) is one that he shares with the FTB FC5 team. That is the argument that saying specific words/insults/ideas etc that other groups find offensive is indicative of malice/misoginy/evil whatever.
The trouble with this argument is that it is simply another way of saying that people have a right not to be offended.
It is an entirely rational argument so long as you are prepared to stick to it's logical conclusions - and neither oolon nor the FTB bunch are because they don't believe this rule should hold for the religious. Atheists are allowed to blaspheme. It is our right. At the same time to do so causes offense to the religious. It is a contradiction that is swept under the carpet.

#21035

Snurk. Oolon rubs scent glands on fenceposts at coffeelovingskeptic's -

Oolon1

Oolon2

#21036

d4m10n wrote:
*blushes*

After that effusion of kindness, I'll never get to post at B&W again. ;)

Ummmm, your avatar: if you're not going to eat that baby right away, can I have it, please?

#21037

Anyone else notice we have a new registered user calling s/h/it/them/self Flewellyn?

#21038

Umm, is A+theism forum down for anybody else?

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#21039

SPACKlick wrote:Umm, is A+theism forum down for anybody else?

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That proves they're right - they have so many more failed connections than we do!

#21040

"I guess that something happened in his life at that time, he got in a fight, lost a job, got left by his wife, something like that, and went out in his car and at some point said the next vulnerable person he sees is dead"

Poughkeepsie Tapes

Quantum sardonics, this reaching my view list at this point in time. Hardly a unique quote - more a recurring theme in not only film and literature, but sociology that studies sociopathy.

I'm the senseless animal right?

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Funny huh?

#21041

Ok, I won't engage Oolon again until they have a good argument, and not some strawman or other shit.

Learned my lesson.

#21042

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Ok, I won't engage Oolon again until they have a good argument, and not some strawman or other shit.

Learned my lesson.

And that, Phil, is why you're the sort who is more at home here then in Baboolliville or In the Land of A+Theism...

L.

#21043

oolon, slimy turd wrote:Hehe no one wants to tell Justin, it was a parody darling! Obliviousness rises to new heights... Maybe I've been too hard on JV he obviously cannot make out a joke from a serious comment, maybe he thinks everyone here is a Poe? Don'cha kno PZ has banned em, therefore they don't exist any more!

It's hilarious to hear a Baboon moaning about people not being able to distinguish between jokes and serious comments. Go take your complains to Opheliar, Black Swank, PZ etc. Oh, I forgot, PZ banned you. He obviously found someone else to suck his dick.

:lol:

#21044

franc wrote:Snurk. Oolon rubs scent glands on fenceposts at coffeelovingskeptic's -

Oolon1

Oolon2

That was rather an old comment, weird Towel Boy had to reply but then I see Towelie hears his masters voice as clear as a bell!

So what is the breakdown of percentage of posters to the Slymepit to proportion of posts Towelie? You seem to think that is sorta relevant...?

Around 5% of the members are accounting for 90+% of the comments. Complete and utter nonsense and typical of tin-pot ideologues manipulating reality to create an illusion of authority and being somehow â€œrepresentativeâ€ of the popular mood

Is Towelie describing this place? I really couldn't tell...

#21045

Lsuoma wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Ok, I won't engage Oolon again until they have a good argument, and not some strawman or other shit.

Learned my lesson.
And that, Phil, is why you're the sort who is more at home here then in Baboolliville or In the Land of A+Theism...

L.

I think I'm more at home anywhere other then Baboolliville or A+...

#21046

CommanderTuvok wrote:
oolon, slimy turd wrote:Hehe no one wants to tell Justin, it was a parody darling! Obliviousness rises to new heights... Maybe I've been too hard on JV he obviously cannot make out a joke from a serious comment, maybe he thinks everyone here is a Poe? Don'cha kno PZ has banned em, therefore they don't exist any more!
It's hilarious to hear a Baboon moaning about people not being able to distinguish between jokes and serious comments. Go take your complains to Opheliar, Black Swank, PZ etc. Oh, I forgot, PZ banned you. He obviously found someone else to suck his dick.

:lol:

Given tigzy plumbs new depths of weirdness by thinking me using the term "meatspace stalker" is somehow indicative of homophobia what does he make of Tuvoks constant allusions to 'dick sucking', 'arse licking' (Otherwise known as rimming I'm told) all in relation to PZ?

Is that your problem Tuvok, you have a serious case of PZ envy? All his fans get to do what you would really deep down want more than anything - a good 'ole PZ rimjaw!

#21047

oolon, slimy turd wrote:Is Towelie describing this place? I really couldn't tell...

You're a fucking idiot. This is one thread. Versus a "movement".

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Guest · #21048

oolon, slimy turd wrote: Is that your problem Tuvok, you have a serious case of PZ envy?

I for one am offended by the blatant misogyny being spread around by Oolon. What - you think all women are damaged because they don't have a penis? Bitchez be crazy, yo. Check your privilege, asshole.

#21049

Lsuoma wrote:Anyone else notice we have a new registered user calling s/h/it/them/self Flewellyn?

Ugh. Had enough of reading Flewellyn's crap over at the Special Snowflake Society. And I really don't want to add to my foe list. Oolong is enough.

#21050

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/ ... ines02.JPG

http://goo.gl/M9LnG

Cold be seen as profound, or the visual equivalent of pre-EVP prompting that primes you to hear the phrase.

Still, can you smell the privilige?

#21051

LOL I said Oolong instead of Oolon - I blame tea drinking.

#21052

Let's have some man jokes:

Q: Why does a penis have a hole in the end?
A: So men can be open minded.

Q: Why does it take 100 million sperm to fertilize an egg?
A: Because not one will stop and ask for directions.

Q: Why do men name their penises?
A: Because they don't like the idea of having a stranger make 90 percent of their decisions.

#21053

ReneeHendricks wrote:LOL I said Oolong instead of Oolon - I blame tea drinking.

:shock: This is the most terrible thing I have ever read on the Slyme Pit. :shock:

#21054

Git wrote:Let's have some man jokes:

Q: Why does a penis have a hole in the end?
A: So men can be open minded.

Q: Why does it take 100 million sperm to fertilize an egg?
A: Because not one will stop and ask for directions.

Q: Why do men name their penises?
A: Because they don't like the idea of having a stranger make 90 percent of their decisions.

Q. Why do women fake orgasm?

A. They think we care.

#21055

Even fat slags laugh at him -

http://i.imgur.com/1Bn8O.png

#21056

tl;dr version: Y U NO WRITE YOUR BOOK PROPERLY, GREG?

Some of you might have noticed that Greg Laden has an understandably self-published novel out - as it's all over his Twitter and X-Blog thing. 'Sungudogo', it's called. From the looks of things, it's about a mysterious monkey in the Congo. No, it's not an autobiography. It's a work of fiction. And from what I've read so far, not a very good work.

Okay, I'll admit it: 'Sungudogo' is amazingly shit. In fact, it gives me great glee to announce that this is sub-Dan Brown drivel that even the good hack himself would be ashamed to write. Greg Laden, despite what he may think, cannot tell a story to save his miserable life. It is seriously, seriously, bad. Honestly, My Little Pony internet fanfic seems like Tolstoy by comparison. I'm not exaggerrating.

I downloaded a sample the other night, cos I was curious, and I couldn't actually make it past the first half of the excerpt, it was that bad. Here's some examples of just how bad it is - and please note that these examples are but a few from the many:

First off, we get a prologue. We know some serious shit is gonna go down, because Greg emphasises this point in a manner which even Jeffery Archer might strike out on the rewrite:

The incidents associated with the story told here are still under investigation but it has been classified as Top Secret by INTERPOL. If you find find yourself in possession of a copy of this manuscript you are required by international law to hand it over to the most readily available federal or national authorities in the country you are in, unless you are in the Congo, in which case you should burn the manuscript immediately.

Luckily, there was no warning that my Kindle might self-destruct in five seconds, so that was okay.

Anyways, we begin the story. It's surprisingly sexy, in a homoerotic kind of way.

The boat was prone to sway a little with the chop, and would lurch abruptly when Big Ollie reached for tackle or bait, or his beer, or cast his line, which was rigged with a dancing Norwegian and a medium size leech. The two other anglers, Leslie and Dave, were less disruptive when they toyed with their rods and reels or tossed a jig or a lure.

Straight off, it's clear that Greg has no ear for language. And the fishing terminology just makes it look as if Greg thought, 'ah, I need some fishing terminology here to make it clear that these people are fishing - best have a quick look on Wikipedia, then'. However, there is some talent for writing bawdy, innuendo Laden (see what I did there?)comedy, I'll grant him that.

Anyways, it goes on (with more sub-rosa sauciness that is diametrically opposed to the sapphic kind - yes, I know that was laboured, but I'm not the one touting my bad writing for the princely sum of $4.99):

Archer Mallows did not fish. About 50 years old, tall, trim, tanned and looking worn but not spent, he lounged in the stern propped against the gunwale and watched the younger men...

Aside from the fact that Greg is making it seem like the stern is somehow propped against the gunwale, what does 'about 50' mean? Why can't he just state Archer Mallows' age? Greg, allusion is usually good in a novel - but not when you're trying to be so blatant about it.

Mallows was the owner of the boat, and the elder man to whom others looked.

Uh-oh - passive phrasing. This isn't going well already. Also, the sentence seems unfinished: did the other men look up to Mallows, or down on him? C'mon Greg, you've got a good chance for some minor character development here. Unless...maybe all the other men looked to him because it's all a bit gay? Am I missing some subtlety here, Greg? Archer Mallows seems like a bear to me. Is that the point?

...sometimes he would tell them stories of his past wanderings from which they could pretend to share adventure. Just before doing so...before telling a story...there would always be a brief, enigmatic sentence no one would understand.

Well, at least he only starts with one, Greg.

Interestingly, the title of this chapter is 'Mallows'. I think I've roasted it (hee hee) enough already. Or harshed (hee hee) it. Something like that. Still, to be fair, the first chapter is often a tricky one for someone writing their first novel - you're unsure of your characters, your style, how things might play out. So let's cut Greg some slack here, and see how the next chapter pans out. Here's how it starts:

It was a dark and stormy night.

Greg, you're fuckin kidding, right?? You didn't write this in all seriousness did you??? I know...you're being ironic and postmodern, right? You're just jivin with some cliches cos it's cool and funny in a postmodern, ironic way...right?

It was a dark and stormy night. That was normal, since it was night so the sun was down, and it was the rainforest so it was raining. Dark and stormy. Though I had no fever [note: the second chapter is now in the first person, narrated by Mallows - which makes this a manuscript which started out in the third person, but which is now being dictated in the first person. Weird. I guess it could work. If the writer was better - ie, not semi-literate], my right leg was warmer than it should have been and the surface of its skin was mushy. Between the water rushing into the cab of the Land Rover as we drove through puddles which were really small lakes, and the heat of the constantly overheating engine and transmission, my right leg was lightly braised. Or maybe parboiled is a better term.

http://www.atypicallyrelevant.com/wp-co ... cepalm.jpg

I swear I'm not making this up. This is what Greg has actually written with the intent of selling it. It's just...words fail me. I at least, at this moment, have that in common with Greg. Words utterly fail me.

The last nine hours of the 12 hour day were spent driving up a hill. Funny, when you think about hills...most hills, when you are driving up them, go up and down and up and down but on average up. Going up that hill involved going only up. There was no down. Rarely steep, but always, unrelentingly up. That is why the transmission was so hot.

So here we have: mixing verbal and arabic numbers; repetition (too many 'up's, too many 'hill's - unrelentingly so, you might say); a pointless ellipse; and he's telling, not showing.

Also, this, apparently, is supposed to be first-person narration. Who the fuck talks like that?

In any case, the chapter ends exactly as it started. See if you can spot why:

Information passed hands, things were looked into, and eventually somebody figured out that they needed to find me, talk to me, and make me an offer I could not refuse.

Jesus fuckin Christ.

Anyways, that's about all I could manage. Seriously, this novel is that dire. And what I've shown you so far is but a tiny portion of the word effluvia that Greg hopes to sell. Here, just one more, which I glimpsed by pure chance:

She was clad in an enigmatically loud pastel pants suit, wore eye glasses that could have doubled as the marquee for a casino on the Las Vegas strip, and sported a hairdo that went all the way to the top, and money.

What?? What?? Greg - stop. Please, stop.

But credit where credit's due - Greg's 'work' here has at least disclosed an interesting profundity. Just as an infinite number of monkeys will eventually write Shakespeare given an infinite amount of time, then so does 'Sungudogo' show what will result when one monkey is given a typewriter for five minutes.

And it will be something much better than Greg's book.

Oh, and I wanna know what Greg's writer buddy Zvan thinks about this. I wonder if it's no surprise that she's not given loverboy a flattering puff on her blog. Probably too fuckin dire even for her lowly standards...

#21057

Tigzy wrote:tl;dr version: Y U NO WRITE YOUR BOOK PROPERLY, GREG?

Some of you might have noticed that Greg Laden has an understandably self-published novel out - as it's all over his Twitter and X-Blog thing. 'Sungudogo', it's called. From the looks of things, it's about a mysterious monkey in the Congo.

de Loy's Ape?

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/u ... loysi1.jpg

#21058

Mykeru wrote:
Tigzy wrote:tl;dr version: Y U NO WRITE YOUR BOOK PROPERLY, GREG?

Some of you might have noticed that Greg Laden has an understandably self-published novel out - as it's all over his Twitter and X-Blog thing. 'Sungudogo', it's called. From the looks of things, it's about a mysterious monkey in the Congo.
de Loy's Ape?

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/u ... loysi1.jpg

Maybe. I might have once cared. Thanks to Greg, I no longer do.

#21059

ReneeHendricks wrote:LOL I said Oolong instead of Oolon - I blame tea drinking.

Renee, there are a massive truck load of things you and I agree on - I pretty much think you know where your towel is - but please never blame that grammatical accident on Tea drinking, for that is folly of the first degree.

If anything Oolon needs to drink more Tea, I'm sure he'd see our point of view after a few cups of the Elixir!

:D

#21060

ReneeHendricks wrote:LOL I said Oolong instead of Oolon - I blame tea drinking.

Oolon is how oolong (tea) is pronounced in Japan. It's also the name of a pig that abducts little girls in Dragonball.