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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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DownThunder wrote:
decius wrote:GenerallyFading, if your total caloric intake is lower than your consumption, then you will lose weight whatever the proportion of nutrients.

On the other hand, if you wish to deny the first law of thermodynamics, we have a problem.
That isnt true.

It is highly simplistic to treat the human body like a battery.

The type of nutrients, the rate and quantity at which you consume them all matters.

To pick extreme examples: What do you think would happen if you were to eat a days worth of energy, in one meal all from simple sugars? Then would do you think would happen if you were to consume that same daily quantity in equal doses at 30 min intervals over the course of the day?
Well, first of all, the statement "if your caloric intake is lower than your consumption" is erroneous and should be fixed on Decius' part - to "if your caloric intake is lower than your *expenditure*".

Secondly, you can have the same caloric intake for years with the same expenditure for years (maintaining weight) then hit your 40-50 year range and find this is no longer works due to your metabolism slowing down.

There are *many* factors that go into keeping/maintaining/losing/gaining weight and simple spewing "keep your caloric intake/output even" isn't going to cut it.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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justinvacula wrote:Someone who wanted to talk about my most recent blog post reached out and chatted with me over Skype in preparation for their response and an ongoing discussion. Only if people did this more often...
What, communicating like adults, not making false assumptions and accusations? NONSENSE!

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justinvacula wrote:Someone who wanted to talk about my most recent blog post reached out and chatted with me over Skype in preparation for their response and an ongoing discussion. Only if people did this more often...
As I said. Sometimes just need to meet for a drink. So much silliness due to textual misreadings eh?

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: How the hell do you do it? I've never managed to keep a basil plant alive, and I live in the perfect climate for them! I guess I don't have a green hand. Also, appartment, no garden...
My basil patch is about 0.9 meters by 0.3 meters, in a raised bed that's 0.9m by 1.8m. Most of the bed is filled with composted horse manure from my friends' ranch, plus a bit of my own kitchen/yard trimmings compost. That seems to suit the basil quite well. Tomatoes and peppers, OTOH, require the addition of blood meal to the soil - otherwise I get all leaves, and no fruit.

Planting amaranth this year was a big mistake. It produced a lot, but the birds ate all of it, and scattered the seed heads. Now amaranth is popping up all over my yard.
Whatever you do, don't ever plant bamboo. My grandfather made the mistake, and that shit invaded his garden in no time, destroying his pathways and pool tiles. Fucking viral!

You can plant non-invasive clumping Bamboo....

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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TheMan wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: How the hell do you do it? I've never managed to keep a basil plant alive, and I live in the perfect climate for them! I guess I don't have a green hand. Also, appartment, no garden...
My basil patch is about 0.9 meters by 0.3 meters, in a raised bed that's 0.9m by 1.8m. Most of the bed is filled with composted horse manure from my friends' ranch, plus a bit of my own kitchen/yard trimmings compost. That seems to suit the basil quite well. Tomatoes and peppers, OTOH, require the addition of blood meal to the soil - otherwise I get all leaves, and no fruit.

Planting amaranth this year was a big mistake. It produced a lot, but the birds ate all of it, and scattered the seed heads. Now amaranth is popping up all over my yard.
Whatever you do, don't ever plant bamboo. My grandfather made the mistake, and that shit invaded his garden in no time, destroying his pathways and pool tiles. Fucking viral!

You can plant non-invasive clumping Bamboo....
Fuck it! Bamboo needs to die! Then we'll get rid of Pandas as well, two birds with one stone. Oh, and Chinese movies acrobatic fight scenes too. Make that three birds. See? All positive.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Sorry, it's 2:10am here daylight saving time, and I'm a bit on the piss.


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Dilurk wrote:
justinvacula wrote:Someone who wanted to talk about my most recent blog post reached out and chatted with me over Skype in preparation for their response and an ongoing discussion. Only if people did this more often...
As I said. Sometimes just need to meet for a drink. So much silliness due to textual misreadings eh?
Yup. I blame the paucity of smileys.

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think you'll find thats standard time old chap

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Still lurking folks. I've enjoyed reading all the posts. would like to contribute more but I'm no academic nor sciency type person. Just a humble video archives researcher. So I tend to consume lots of information and wallow in my life long ambition to be payed to watch TV.

A few comments on Fatness:

Fat: I don't mind the fat jokes...everything is fair game AFAIK in jokes It's the nature of a joke. I'm chubbly. Skinny people say I'm fat and fat people say I'm ok. The partner laughs at my man boobz by saying she wished she kept her training bra I tease her back...we laugh. I tend to have weight swings. 7 years ago I weighed 96kilos these days I weigh around 87kg at one stage in between I weight 83kg. I'm supposed to be around 75kg according to Chinese manufacturers of shopping centre scales which strangely match those weight for height charts in GP clinics seemingly geared for non- southern european folk who love their pasta, fresh bread and preserved meats with mystery white bits. Last time I weighed 75kg I was an amphetamine abuser and ate one meal a day. I can still see my dick when I look down...the barometer of measurement most men adhere to. I do count calories these days..not down to the single calorie but if I have a large lunch i'll have a small meal at dinner time. My work day bacon & egg roll with a flate white (only $7.50) breakfast is a luxury item I account for.

I don't like regimented excersise regimes. I'll maybe ride a bike on weekends, do some yoga once a fornight and a 30 minute brisk walk after a lunch if I have the time and it's not too hot. I'm 50 and not 30 anymore.

I'd rather be a fat happy person than a miserable skinny one.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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mutleyeng wrote:think you'll find thats standard time old chap
Doesn't help; still on the piss.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
TheMan wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: How the hell do you do it? I've never managed to keep a basil plant alive, and I live in the perfect climate for them! I guess I don't have a green hand. Also, appartment, no garden...
My basil patch is about 0.9 meters by 0.3 meters, in a raised bed that's 0.9m by 1.8m. Most of the bed is filled with composted horse manure from my friends' ranch, plus a bit of my own kitchen/yard trimmings compost. That seems to suit the basil quite well. Tomatoes and peppers, OTOH, require the addition of blood meal to the soil - otherwise I get all leaves, and no fruit.

Planting amaranth this year was a big mistake. It produced a lot, but the birds ate all of it, and scattered the seed heads. Now amaranth is popping up all over my yard.
Whatever you do, don't ever plant bamboo. My grandfather made the mistake, and that shit invaded his garden in no time, destroying his pathways and pool tiles. Fucking viral!
Yeah but how are you going to make bamboo flutes and play tunes that evoke spiritual peace that you can also give as hand made peasant ware gifts at birthdays and religious festivities?

You are denying the world of music and Xmas gift ideas!


You can plant non-invasive clumping Bamboo....
Fuck it! Bamboo needs to die! Then we'll get rid of Pandas as well, two birds with one stone. Oh, and Chinese movies acrobatic fight scenes too. Make that three birds. See? All positive.

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I posted within the quoted lines.... that's how small my monitor is. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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TheMan wrote:Still lurking folks. I've enjoyed reading all the posts. would like to contribute more but I'm no academic nor sciency type person. Just a humble video archives researcher. So I tend to consume lots of information and wallow in my life long ambition to be payed to watch TV.

A few comments on Fatness:

Fat: I don't mind the fat jokes...everything is fair game AFAIK in jokes It's the nature of a joke. I'm chubbly. Skinny people say I'm fat and fat people say I'm ok. The partner laughs at my man boobz by saying she wished she kept her training bra I tease her back...we laugh. I tend to have weight swings. 7 years ago I weighed 96kilos these days I weigh around 87kg at one stage in between I weight 83kg. I'm supposed to be around 75kg according to Chinese manufacturers of shopping centre scales which strangely match those weight for height charts in GP clinics seemingly geared for non- southern european folk who love their pasta, fresh bread and preserved meats with mystery white bits. Last time I weighed 75kg I was an amphetamine abuser and ate one meal a day. I can still see my dick when I look down...the barometer of measurement most men adhere to. I do count calories these days..not down to the single calorie but if I have a large lunch i'll have a small meal at dinner time. My work day bacon & egg roll with a flate white (only $7.50) breakfast is a luxury item I account for.

I don't like regimented excersise regimes. I'll maybe ride a bike on weekends, do some yoga once a fornight and a 30 minute brisk walk after a lunch if I have the time and it's not too hot. I'm 50 and not 30 anymore.

I'd rather be a fat happy person than a miserable skinny one.
1.85m, 76kg. Suck it!

Time for bed, right? But I'm listening to Reap and Mykeru. Gonna be a hard monday.

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Tigzy wrote:
haha, you fucking dumbass, I hope you get hit by a Church van tonight and you die slowly
:)

So I would ask, dear Jean, what makes the 'harassment' Becky receives intrinsically worse than what Dawkins receives?
It's not just the 'harassment', what about actual danger?
Dawkins is the most high profile atheist on earth; he does speaking tours in the red states (home states of die-hard, gun owning Christian funda(mentalists).
The kind of wingnuts he pisses off are exactly the kind of people who would love to do him physical harm. It would after all, to them, completely justifiable, ethical, even.
It may only be a tiny % who would be willing to attack, but that's all it requires.
Sam Harris is another - After 'The End of Faith' he has protection when he appears in public.
Who has even heard of Watson anyway? The pool of nutters who would do real harm to Dawkins is huge, not just a few thousand online geeks ffs.
I'd contrast Becky with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but it would be ridiculous.
And besides, I go a bit weak at the knee and soft in the head when AHA is mentioned.

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cunt wrote:
GenerallyFading wrote: Decius, I am watching myself lose weight. My doctor is watching me do it too. I don't get why you think you're right when it's not your body. There are many, many people in the same boat - most recommend a diet of 75% fat, 20% protein and 5% carbs.
Sounds like really great way to fuck up your liver and kidneys. When you say that "most recommend" this, does that include your doctors?

I remember reading somwhere, and I'm trying to find it again but I suspect it was from a sciency type magazine, that after say a two week fast and you start eating again your body adopts a "store for the next fast scenario" and food will be stored as fat rather than for immediate requirements. The article was tryig to explain what happens when people go on diets and one puts more weight back on when the course of the diet is done and weight target achieved.

The rural type people I know tend to have no problems putting away a steak, two eggs and chips for breakfast but geeze...they are doing a hell of a lot more excersise than I am. Then I look at my uncle who still likes his lard dripping sandwich snacks is 70yo and as skinny as a rake and his wife does everything for him....

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BarnOwl wrote:WHARRRGAARRRBBLL Pepsi product!11!!

http://instagram.com/p/RTnIRSjUbB/

Also, why the fuck is there bottled water at a hotel banquet?

/treehugger

It's always 'diet' pepsi too. I thought that aspritame actually leads to weight gain. http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singlefo ... newID=3861

Not that it matters. If one wants to lose weight, don't fucking drink pop.

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http://www.wunderground.com/blog/angela ... ntrynum=30

Holy fucken shit!! Batten down the hatches and stay safe, people on the US East Coast!

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
TheMan wrote:Still lurking folks. I've enjoyed reading all the posts. would like to contribute more but I'm no academic nor sciency type person. Just a humble video archives researcher. So I tend to consume lots of information and wallow in my life long ambition to be payed to watch TV.

A few comments on Fatness:

Fat: I don't mind the fat jokes...everything is fair game AFAIK in jokes It's the nature of a joke. I'm chubbly. Skinny people say I'm fat and fat people say I'm ok. The partner laughs at my man boobz by saying she wished she kept her training bra I tease her back...we laugh. I tend to have weight swings. 7 years ago I weighed 96kilos these days I weigh around 87kg at one stage in between I weight 83kg. I'm supposed to be around 75kg according to Chinese manufacturers of shopping centre scales which strangely match those weight for height charts in GP clinics seemingly geared for non- southern european folk who love their pasta, fresh bread and preserved meats with mystery white bits. Last time I weighed 75kg I was an amphetamine abuser and ate one meal a day. I can still see my dick when I look down...the barometer of measurement most men adhere to. I do count calories these days..not down to the single calorie but if I have a large lunch i'll have a small meal at dinner time. My work day bacon & egg roll with a flate white (only $7.50) breakfast is a luxury item I account for.

I don't like regimented excersise regimes. I'll maybe ride a bike on weekends, do some yoga once a fornight and a 30 minute brisk walk after a lunch if I have the time and it's not too hot. I'm 50 and not 30 anymore.

I'd rather be a fat happy person than a miserable skinny one.
1.85m, 76kg. Suck it!

Time for bed, right? But I'm listening to Reap and Mykeru. Gonna be a hard monday.

I'm 1.7m and around 86kg and don't come latching onto my leg on a windy day.... I'm just looking at a reflection of myself on the glass doors here next to my office...things look better front on than sideways....

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
1.85m, 76kg. Suck it!
1.86m, 85kg. Hah. That one centimetre makes all the difference.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Let loose the crazy cat ladies and their lovers of psuedo-war! http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... attention/

Oh, and CUNT! (don't want to be left out)
Crazy Cunt Lady: I’ll stop there. That’s enough. This Lucy Wainwright is unpleasant and callous and sloppy in her reasoning.
Doesn't even understand parallel logic either...

Amazing. Either genuine senile dementia is setting in, or Pruney is the Queen of all Trolls and will reveal herself finally some day soon.

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Guest wrote:Anecdote does not = evidence
Rapist.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
1.85m, 76kg. Suck it!
1.86m, 85kg. Hah. That one centimetre makes all the difference.
Centimeters do matter... :whistle:

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BarnOwl wrote:http://www.wunderground.com/blog/angela ... ntrynum=30

Holy fucken shit!! Batten down the hatches and stay safe, people on the US East Coast!
Right now Sandy is only feeling us up here. However, tomorrow we might get raped.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/ ... 37z50j.jpg

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Altair wrote:
AKAHorace wrote: Colombiano ? yo vivia en Cali, mi novia es paisa. Estaba alla en Bogota el ano passado, vi los manifestationes estudantiles. Conoces San Antonio ?
Lamento la demora, tuve un par de dias muy ocupados. Si conozco San Antonio, de hecho mi mamá es de Cali e ibamos mucho allá cuando yo era niño. Ella vivió sobre la quinta, cerca a La Loma.
Planeas regresar a Bogotá pronto? sería muy interesante reunirnos y tomarnos algo, algo asi como la gente del hoyo (no estoy seguro que traduce slime).

Pienso volver Cali el ano siguente. Siempre paso por Bogota. Debemos communicar los tres, usted, yo y Munkhaus.

hasta pronto

Horace

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
1.85m, 76kg. Suck it!
1.86m, 85kg. Hah. That one centimetre makes all the difference.
The correct response is, "muscle weighs more than fat".

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Listening right now - pondering podcasting myself.

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Darren wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
1.85m, 76kg. Suck it!
1.86m, 85kg. Hah. That one centimetre makes all the difference.
The correct response is, "muscle weighs more than fat".
You beat me to it....

Someone who knows more about DNA & genetics may chime in but my understanding is that some genes turn on and off during certain phases in ones life. Like genes that control metabolism? is there such a thing? I certainly wish I had more of my mums genes and my dad's gene for will power seems to have eluded me. But my dad is a fat sexist cunt... I don't think there are genes for that

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TheMan wrote:But my dad is a fat sexist cunt... I don't think there are genes for that
On the Y chromosome, dude - that's why all men are fat sexist cunts.

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Lsuoma wrote:
TheMan wrote:But my dad is a fat sexist cunt... I don't think there are genes for that
On the Y chromosome, dude - that's why all men are fat sexist cunts.
I'm doomed then...I think all my Y chromosomes are down the bathroom sink drain.

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Tigzy wrote:
cunt wrote:Lots of guests. Whats going on?
It is bloody busy at the moment. Maybe one of the lurkers can post as a guest and enlighten us?
Hi, lurker here.

My quest for entertainment, perhaps a little knowledge, the enjoyment of drama mixed with some lulz is the reason I'm here.

A video uploaded by a youtube fella named Justicar the other day is what finally made me search out this place through curiosity. The Slyme Pit was mentioned in the title, and it's not the only time I've heard or read about this place in the last month or two. I Thought I'd come and see what was shaking.

The back-story is that I was watching some video or other on youtube several weeks back, and from clicking a chain of related links ended up on one of Justicar's pieces to camera. From then on, I've loosely been following the same chain on and off, and have discovered blogs and youtube channels regarding scepticism, critical thinking, science and atheism. In doing so, I came across the whole Atheism+ mob, ftb, some men's rights activists, feminists and allsorts of other stuff. I see some people posting on here that I've recently stumbled upon too, these being Justin Vacula, Mykeru and Al Stefanelli so take a bow people, you're famous.

That's my overly-detailed story, don't know why any other fucker is lurking. I've been entertained by my recent voyages through cyberspace with regards to all this gubbins so keep up the good work and carry on dancing for me as I jump back into delurk mode and watch from the sidelines.

Cheers

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Hello Lofo... kinda new here too and de lurked for the same reasons excpet the only person I knew was franc and he's not famous and neither is anyone else here except for FTB 5...they are famous but I don't follow them.

By saying hello to you I moved my self up to the rank of welcome mat. At this rate I'll start blogging soon and learn the tricks of monitising so it's just not about the lulz anymore.

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I will then start my own religion and make a motza

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Lofo DeBaere wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
cunt wrote:Lots of guests. Whats going on?
It is bloody busy at the moment. Maybe one of the lurkers can post as a guest and enlighten us?
Hi, lurker here.

My quest for entertainment, perhaps a little knowledge, the enjoyment of drama mixed with some lulz is the reason I'm here.

A video uploaded by a youtube fella named Justicar the other day is what finally made me search out this place through curiosity. The Slyme Pit was mentioned in the title, and it's not the only time I've heard or read about this place in the last month or two. I Thought I'd come and see what was shaking.

The back-story is that I was watching some video or other on youtube several weeks back, and from clicking a chain of related links ended up on one of Justicar's pieces to camera. From then on, I've loosely been following the same chain on and off, and have discovered blogs and youtube channels regarding scepticism, critical thinking, science and atheism. In doing so, I came across the whole Atheism+ mob, ftb, some men's rights activists, feminists and allsorts of other stuff. I see some people posting on here that I've recently stumbled upon too, these being Justin Vacula, Mykeru and Al Stefanelli so take a bow people, you're famous.

That's my overly-detailed story, don't know why any other fucker is lurking. I've been entertained by my recent voyages through cyberspace with regards to all this gubbins so keep up the good work and carry on dancing for me as I jump back into delurk mode and watch from the sidelines.

Cheers
Hello lurker. Good to hear that you have recognized the lunacy which characterizes FfTB and A+Theism. This is your first step to enlightenment. The second step involves spending an hour in a closet with Franc Hoggle, but don't worry about that just yet. I encourage you to look back through this thread, and go look at some of the unbelievable bullshit spewed by people such as PZ Meyers, Ophelia and Stephany Zvan. They declare themselves as representative of atheism and freethought, while being so obsessed with their own image that they shut down any dissenting opinion within seconds. Of note, this forum deletes nothing, except from one very specific person, who has a legal ban on posting in places such as this.

Have fun!

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TheMan wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
TheMan wrote:But my dad is a fat sexist cunt... I don't think there are genes for that
On the Y chromosome, dude - that's why all men are fat sexist cunts.
I'm doomed then...I think all my Y chromosomes are down the bathroom sink drain.
Dude, it's cool. Just snap a single leg off of a few of your X chromosomes. Good as new! I heard it from a friend's sister's boyfriend's co-worker, so I'm sure it's true.

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Reap's a FRAUD!

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ReneeHendricks wrote:
Listening right now - pondering podcasting myself.
Not to turn you off of the idea, but I've been had.

The "interview" Reap has with P.Z. Meyers is totally suspect. I'm going to have to call bullshit:

Peezus never sounds that coherent.

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justinvacula wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote:Has somebody told Maria Myrback that Surly Amy revealed private information from a DMCA counternotice. That was information NOT available publically, whereas her address was. Further, has Maria Myrback realised that Justin responded to a LIE by Surly Amy, here she claimed his DMCA counternotice was simply a bid to get her address.

The Baboons and their LIES. They never stop.
Are you talking about @elevatorgate information?
Yeah.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I am not a certified nutritionist or endocrinologist, so I'll pass the diet talk.

My only experience with calorie-watching was when I was working out. High intakes for mass, low intakes for drying. That's the full extent of my knowledge.
I'm not qualified either but very low carbs is the only way I can lose weight and keep it off. Interestingly in a low carb diet you don't need to count the calories. Whether that is because of the appetite suppression effects of not eating carbs or the fact that burning fat for energy is less efficient than burning sugars

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
justinvacula wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote:Has somebody told Maria Myrback that Surly Amy revealed private information from a DMCA counternotice. That was information NOT available publically, whereas her address was. Further, has Maria Myrback realised that Justin responded to a LIE by Surly Amy, here she claimed his DMCA counternotice was simply a bid to get her address.

The Baboons and their LIES. They never stop.
Are you talking about @elevatorgate information?
Yeah.
About that, in that video at the conference in Florida, Becky claims that @ElevatorGate lives in Florida, that they barred him from entering the conference, and that they got him fired from his job. He's told me that 1 and 3 are false [and that it didn't matter if 2 was true because he wasn't trying to go anyhow], so now I'm wondering: Did they doc-drop the wrong guy, or is Becky just being her usual, lying-ass self and making up bullshit to get gasps from a gullible* audience?

*Gullible enough to believe that listen to her talk is worth getting up that early in the morning! Maybe I should take a page out of the baboons' book and call them hyper-gullible.

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JackRayner wrote:*Gullible enough to believe that listening to her talk is worth getting up that early in the morning! Maybe I should take a page out of the baboons' book and call them hyper-gullible.
I really need to proof-read a little harder after restructuring sentences. That always gets me.

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Over at Justin's blog, wankstain Oolon suggests Stefunny got in contact with Justin to "discuss" the petition. Justin replies that was not the case.

Where is the deluded Oolon getting his misinformation. The Baboon Narrative Department is at work again!

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JackRayner wrote:About that, in that video at the conference in Florida, Becky claims that @ElevatorGate lives in Florida, that they barred him from entering the conference, and that they got him fired from his job. He's told me that 1 and 3 are false [and that it didn't matter if 2 was true because he wasn't trying to go anyhow], so now I'm wondering: Did they doc-drop the wrong guy, or is Becky just being her usual, lying-ass self and making up bullshit to get gasps from a gullible* audience?
Considering she also claimed in that same speech how a few months back organizers barred Sacha from attending a skeptics meeting at her request, which as Mykeru pointed out we all here know is bullshit, I'm skeptical of just about every word she said in that talk. Regardless when I read the part in bold I couldn't help but imagine some schmuck in a cubicle somewhere being tapped on the shoulder by his boss

"Pack your stuff guy. You're fired"
"Hey, what did I do?"
"You know what you did. Stalking and harassing that poor girl, er, woman online."
"Who?"
"Rebecca Watson"
"Who?"
"The skepchick"
"Who?!"
"She talks about skepticism and rape at meetings and confrences, and other shit like that."
"What's her day job?"
"... :? ... Just get the hell out misogynist."

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Oh, and another topic that has peeved me over the past 24 hours - Zinnia Jones' bitching about Cenk Uygur using "non-straight sex" to describe sex between a man and transgendered woman.
Maybe I'm an idiot but... isn't that straight sex? I mean that sounds pretty bloody heterosexual to me.

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Steersman wrote:Then you might be interested in this study done by New Zealand's Broadcasting Standards Authority, page 17 in particular which puts “cunt” at the top and “nigger” just below it.
Like I said, we show American television shows here. It's not like we're unfamiliar with the word. It's just not one that's in use here.

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Steersman wrote: Although I don’t see that a case could be made for “fucking” – the word only seems to add emphasis, I would say that “idiot” is probably analogous. Particularly since PZ and Carrier, among others, have argued, although not particularly well or very credibly, that it qualifies as an insult towards an entire group, similar to their position on gendered insults.
Well I'm going to keep using idiot, so I guess that shows where I stand on these matters. That's the closest I could think of to cunt.

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JackRayner wrote:About that, in that video at the conference in Florida, Becky claims that @ElevatorGate lives in Florida, that they barred him from entering the conference, and that they got him fired from his job. He's told me that 1 and 3 are false [and that it didn't matter if 2 was true because he wasn't trying to go anyhow], so now I'm wondering: Did they doc-drop the wrong guy, or is Becky just being her usual, lying-ass self and making up bullshit to get gasps from a gullible* audience?
I missed something here. What was the reason for wanting to get him fired and how did they go about it?

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rashul: "Maybe I'm an idiot but... isn't that straight sex? I mean that sounds pretty bloody heterosexual to me."

This was apparently about transexuals that were structurally still male, though dressing and acting female.

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franc wrote:
JackRayner wrote:About that, in that video at the conference in Florida, Becky claims that @ElevatorGate lives in Florida, that they barred him from entering the conference, and that they got him fired from his job. He's told me that 1 and 3 are false [and that it didn't matter if 2 was true because he wasn't trying to go anyhow], so now I'm wondering: Did they doc-drop the wrong guy, or is Becky just being her usual, lying-ass self and making up bullshit to get gasps from a gullible* audience?
I missed something here. What was the reason for wanting to get him fired and how did they go about it?
Reason? Might have to do with the fact that @ElevatorGate's stated wish is to have her removed from SGU, that he pokes fun at her and the FC5[6, 4] with constant retweets and "storify" posts, and calls people like Justin Vacula "heroes", among other things. She refers to him as a "stalker", but we all know what the baboons mean when they use the term...

As for how...I'm not sure. It never actually happened, so...

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Useless Guest wrote:rashul: "Maybe I'm an idiot but... isn't that straight sex? I mean that sounds pretty bloody heterosexual to me."

This was apparently about transexuals that were structurally still male, though dressing and acting female.
I thought that was straight, too.

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JackRayner wrote:
franc wrote:
JackRayner wrote:About that, in that video at the conference in Florida, Becky claims that @ElevatorGate lives in Florida, that they barred him from entering the conference, and that they got him fired from his job. He's told me that 1 and 3 are false [and that it didn't matter if 2 was true because he wasn't trying to go anyhow], so now I'm wondering: Did they doc-drop the wrong guy, or is Becky just being her usual, lying-ass self and making up bullshit to get gasps from a gullible* audience?
I missed something here. What was the reason for wanting to get him fired and how did they go about it?
Reason? Might have to do with the fact that @ElevatorGate's stated wish is to have her removed from SGU, that he pokes fun at her and the FC5[6, 4] with constant retweets and "storify" posts, and calls people like Justin Vacula "heroes", among other things. She refers to him as a "stalker", but we all know what the baboons mean when they use the term...

As for how...I'm not sure. It never actually happened, so...
I was wondering what *fabricated* charges they branded him with, not the obvious.

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I shall leave this link to John Baez' ancient "Crackpot Index" here.
(Have fun totting up the index of A+Theism!)
The Crackpot Index (A simple method for rating potentially revolutionary contributions to physics)

Oh, and 'rayshul', "idiot" is a perfectly respectable term from the Greek "idiotes" meaning "a private citizen".
It is whence the charming term "idiom" arose, vis: a personal behaviour, peccadillo, or idiosyncrasy.
Jack Raynor will have to wait in line for a while for my reply.

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Mykeru wrote:
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Holy fucken shit!! Batten down the hatches and stay safe, people on the US East Coast!
Right now Sandy is only feeling us up here. However, tomorrow we might get raped.

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Useless Guest wrote:rashul: "Maybe I'm an idiot but... isn't that straight sex? I mean that sounds pretty bloody heterosexual to me."

This was apparently about transexuals that were structurally still male, though dressing and acting female.
Correct. I couldn't exactly say where on the spectrum a man who likes having sex with either pre-op transsexual women, or cross-dressing gay men would fall, but I don't think "straight" would be it. If a man is sexually attracted to someone with a male body, does the male-bodied person's claim to be or feel like they are a woman change this fact? :think:

It might just be situational homosexuality, too. There are plenty of examples of this. With the restrictions that women face in many Arabic countries [the story in question took place in one of these], I think it would be very difficult finding yourself a female prostitute.

Then, there's the whole "third gender" thing seen in some cultures [A+Theists can cry about the trinary view of gender in these. :D]. I remember watching an episode of "Taboo" several years back that covered such things. The Samoan "Fa'afafine" were an example of this. I remember it being specifically stated that in their culture, if a man has sex with a Fa'afafine, neither he nor the Fa'afafine are considered homosexual.

So....yeah. It might all depend on the culture.

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JackRayner wrote:
Useless Guest wrote:rashul: "Maybe I'm an idiot but... isn't that straight sex? I mean that sounds pretty bloody heterosexual to me."

This was apparently about transexuals that were structurally still male, though dressing and acting female.
Correct. I couldn't exactly say where on the spectrum a man who likes having sex with either pre-op transsexual women, or cross-dressing gay men would fall, but I don't think "straight" would be it. If a man is sexually attracted to someone with a male body, does the male-bodied person's claim to be or feel like they are a woman change this fact? :think:

It might just be situational homosexuality, too. There are plenty of examples of this. With the restrictions that women face in many Arabic countries [the story in question took place in one of these], I think it would be very difficult finding yourself a female prostitute.

Then, there's the whole "third gender" thing seen in some cultures [A+Theists can cry about the trinary view of gender in these. :D]. I remember watching an episode of "Taboo" several years back that covered such things. The Samoan "Fa'afafine" were an example of this. I remember it being specifically stated that in their culture, if a man has sex with a Fa'afafine, neither he nor the Fa'afafine are considered homosexual.

So....yeah. It might all depend on the culture.

But aren't we in essense talking about asthetics here?

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TheMan wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
Useless Guest wrote:rashul: "Maybe I'm an idiot but... isn't that straight sex? I mean that sounds pretty bloody heterosexual to me."

This was apparently about transexuals that were structurally still male, though dressing and acting female.
Correct. I couldn't exactly say where on the spectrum a man who likes having sex with either pre-op transsexual women, or cross-dressing gay men would fall, but I don't think "straight" would be it. If a man is sexually attracted to someone with a male body, does the male-bodied person's claim to be or feel like they are a woman change this fact? :think:

It might just be situational homosexuality, too. There are plenty of examples of this. With the restrictions that women face in many Arabic countries [the story in question took place in one of these], I think it would be very difficult finding yourself a female prostitute.

Then, there's the whole "third gender" thing seen in some cultures [A+Theists can cry about the trinary view of gender in these. :D]. I remember watching an episode of "Taboo" several years back that covered such things. The Samoan "Fa'afafine" were an example of this. I remember it being specifically stated that in their culture, if a man has sex with a Fa'afafine, neither he nor the Fa'afafine are considered homosexual.

So....yeah. It might all depend on the culture.

But aren't we in essense talking about asthetics here?
I vote to just call it "sex" and leave it at that. Who cares what subcategory it might be classified into.

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TheMan wrote:
JackRayner wrote: Correct. I couldn't exactly say where on the spectrum a man who likes having sex with either pre-op transsexual women, or cross-dressing gay men would fall, but I don't think "straight" would be it. If a man is sexually attracted to someone with a male body, does the male-bodied person's claim to be or feel like they are a woman change this fact? :think:

It might just be situational homosexuality, too. There are plenty of examples of this. With the restrictions that women face in many Arabic countries [the story in question took place in one of these], I think it would be very difficult finding yourself a female prostitute.

Then, there's the whole "third gender" thing seen in some cultures [A+Theists can cry about the trinary view of gender in these. :D]. I remember watching an episode of "Taboo" several years back that covered such things. The Samoan "Fa'afafine" were an example of this. I remember it being specifically stated that in their culture, if a man has sex with a Fa'afafine, neither he nor the Fa'afafine are considered homosexual.

So....yeah. It might all depend on the culture.

But aren't we in essense talking about asthetics here?
Hm. After much pondering, I suppose this is [partly*] the case. The are "cis" women I'm not physically attracted to in the slightest, because, even though they have tits** and a vulva, they either don't display typical female sexual dimorphism, or display typical male sexual dimorphism. A quick example would be the type of body builders that take it this far. If you're familiar with the effects of hormones on physical development, their role in fertility, and the sexual selection aspect to natural selection, then estrogen is all I really need to say about my preference.

*Studies on things like the role of smell in sexual attraction come to mind.***
**I'm more of an ass, hips, and legs man, personally. Tits can be a plus though.
***Anecdote: A female friend of mines, whom I find physically attractive, has a smell that puts me off, and I don't believe it has anything to do with hygiene. For example, I still like the smell of my lover when she's a smelly, sweaty mess.

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Anyways, here's something interesting that I found when I did a quick search on "sexual dimorphism" to make sure that I was using the correct terminology. It's the wikipedia article on the "Pioneer Plaques".

Apparently, there was a bit of discussion concerning whether to make the woman's vulva's features more realistic. About its featurelessness, Carl Sagan "later wrote":
The decision to omit a very short line in this diagram was made partly because conventional representation in Greek statuary omits it. But there was another reason: Our desire to see the message successfully launched on Pioneer 10. In retrospect, we may have judged NASA's scientific-political hierarchy as more puritanical than it is. In the many discussions that I held with such officials up to the Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the President's Science Adviser, not one Victorian demurrer was ever voiced; and a great deal of helpful encouragement was given...The idea of government censorship of the Pioneer 10 plaque is now so well documented and firmly entrenched that no statement from the designers of the plaque to the contrary can play any role in influencing the prevailing opinion. But we can at least try.
:lol:

Funny, the petty things we humans concern ourselves with. About to launch a probe into outer fucking space, and a line on a vulva is seen as something of consequence...

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Base image + captioner and demotivator widgets -

http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=179

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1.85m, 65kg. I've decided I'm constitutionally incapable of gaining fat. I did my best for a couple of years - think dinners spanning multiple plates and a couple of hours, or whole pizzas at a sitting. Honestly, there was more than one occasion when I got looks of disgust from the staff at McDonald's or KFC at the size of my order. Yes, I was climbing a lot at the time, but all I managed was to put on about 10kg of muscle - which all melted away within a few months when circumstances forced me to cut back on the climbing. As far as I'm aware I've never had above ~10% body fat.

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