Exactly.dustbubble wrote:That's the whole fucking point .
Dunno. Don't talk to him much these days.dustbubble wrote:Blimey that's going back some. It's so over with Sue Barker.Michael K Gray wrote:dustbubble wrote:… such that Cliff Richard would shout "Fuck that fucking cunting bullshit".
Didn't Olivia N-J sort him out, and he's cool about That Sort Of Thing nowadays?
I Read Hemant's post comparing Atheismplus to the Brights as a criticism of the sanctimonious posturing of the A+ crowd.Saint N. wrote:
Hemant Mehta recently wrote on his website that people should ease up on their criticism of A+theism, because they mean well, or something (link, http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... t-atheism/).
"Third, I seriously doubt I’ve driven anyone away from Atheism+."
Thats because you've got your head too far up your arse to see the shitstorm you've created.
You Arrogant, self-rightous, pompous, hypocritical, self-agrandising Douchebag!
Well slap me tits and call me Mary, you're on a right old charm offensive tonight ain't yer?Michael K Gray wrote: They rely on clueless imbecilic tape-worms such as Oolon in EXACTLY the same way that Amway/Scientology operates.
Sucked in, Oolon!
They start with a vague conclusion, and fabricate evidence sufficient to fool suckers like Oolon.
Yes.dustbubble wrote:But then again you are a Grate Brane, and have presumably spotted indications to the contrary?
dustbubble wrote: I don't think oolon is being disingenuous nor nothing guvnor, I really don't, so personally I wouldn't have adopted such a flinty disregard for what I assume (as always ... initially) are well-meant observations. But then again you are a Grate Brane, and have presumably spotted indications to the contrary?
I mean only a hopeless lunatic would dredge through the vast ERV archives from scratch, just to get abreast (fnar fnar) of the etiology of this dismal, farcical and (please, let it be soon) transient episode, so it's a bit harsh to jab people in the ring just for ignorance.
Hehe Mike obviously took umbrage at being likened to Father Jack on TFs blog http://thunderf00tdotorg.wordpress.com/ ... mment-5004Michael K Gray wrote:Yes.dustbubble wrote:But then again you are a Grate Brane, and have presumably spotted indications to the contrary?
Yes I have. In vast steaming truckloads on other sites, such as Thunderf00t's & c.
Do keep up.
O god do I have to?Michael K Gray wrote:.. vast steaming truckloads on other sites, such as Thunderf00t's & c.
Do keep up.
The feminist issue is the Achilles heel of the whole A+ idea. Feminism has numerous strands that hold incompatible views - particularly in regards to sex positivity. The A+ claim that they can simply apply skepticism to social issues is going to be sorely tested whenever this matter comes to the fore. Some prominent FTB feminists are very sex negative, Ophelia Benson and Taslima Nasreen, for example. Others such as Greta Christina have positions on sex work and pornography that are probably more extreme than that held by many MRAs (for example Greta's view that simulated child pornography is fine for healthy, kinky adults).CommanderTuvok wrote:Looking at the Twitter feed, there is a lot of criticism towards A+ from women, and yes, feminists, too.
No doubt they will be regarded as "chill girls" or "gender traitors", or summat.
Much of this reaction is from outside of the FfTB/Pit divide, and is more of a general indicator of the ill feeling the majority of the A/S movement has towards the Baboons and their new A+ idea.
If you don't want to understand why ordinarily inoffensive and retiring woodland creatures, such as me and Gray here, are so wound up about this runaway locomotive of shite, then that's fine.oolon wrote: In relation to having to trawl through the ERV archives to 'get' your point and as you point out someone would have to be a lunatic to do so... Does this not say something of those attracted to this particular internecine conflict?
And then after mentioning Jens tweet that disowned Carriers first A+ post:And now to Richard Carrier. He too immediately endorsed A+ over at Freethought Blogs, but his language was so unnecessarily harsh that I almost called up my priest to ask him for some lessons on Catholic tolerance throughout the centuries (ok, that’s not actually true). I have had occasional epistolary encounters with Carrier, and they have left a seriously bad taste in my mouth. His intemperance with people who happen to disagree — even marginally — with his position is nauseating (just ask the editor of Skeptical Inquirer, who occasionally receives and promptly refuses to publish Richard’s letters about my columns).
I guess the new movement has already excommunicated someone, and that happens to be its most viciously vocal supporter so far.
(Your avatar disturbs me, young Strawkin. Sort of like Alice Cooper decided to dress up as Sitting Bull, but ended up as Worzel Gummidge with a whiff of Catweazle. I thought he'd given up the drink?)Dick Strawkins wrote: These are value judgements.
How are they going to be worked out using skepticism?
Here's a vote from the other side. I like Dick's avatar. :Pdustbubble wrote:(Your avatar disturbs me, young Strawkin. Sort of like Alice Cooper decided to dress up as Sitting Bull, but ended up as Worzel Gummidge with a whiff of Catweazle. I thought he'd given up the drink?)
I think Ophelia does support Pussy Riot, at least I've seen news reports about them on her main 'butterflies and wheels' page.dustbubble wrote:(Your avatar disturbs me, young Strawkin. Sort of like Alice Cooper decided to dress up as Sitting Bull, but ended up as Worzel Gummidge with a whiff of Catweazle. I thought he'd given up the drink?)Dick Strawkins wrote: These are value judgements.
How are they going to be worked out using skepticism?
OK let's test it, Dick.
Hay Ophelia are you in full support of the persecuted feminists "Pussy Riot" (occasionally "пуÑÑи райот"), and do you appreciate their work?
Y'know I'm convinced Nanny's losing it. I can't believe she forgot to put her teeth in again.The Pelagic Argosy wrote:.. I'm thinking McWrong on the couch with O'Phee-phees and ReGreta Rien attending. Dick Carriedaway sobs quietly in the background.
So do I.Scented Nectar wrote:Here's a vote from the other side. I like Dick's avatar. :Pdustbubble wrote:(Your avatar disturbs me, young Strawkin. Sort of like Alice Cooper decided to dress up as Sitting Bull, but ended up as Worzel Gummidge with a whiff of Catweazle. I thought he'd given up the drink?)
No fake jewellery for me!The Pelagic Argosy wrote:So do I.Scented Nectar wrote:Here's a vote from the other side. I like Dick's avatar. :Pdustbubble wrote:(Your avatar disturbs me, young Strawkin. Sort of like Alice Cooper decided to dress up as Sitting Bull, but ended up as Worzel Gummidge with a whiff of Catweazle. I thought he'd given up the drink?)
/echochamber
It's clearly the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz with Richard Dawkins (note lopsided smile) shopped over the face. And of course, the piece of resistance, wearing a Surly-Ramic creation! Hope that's not a fake one there, Dick, or their could be tears and DMCAs in the morning.
Cool beans Dick. So I'll be alright sending her links to their Museum protest etc? NSFW, I'm now advised, but hell, she's a rebel and she'll never ever be any good .. :twisted:Dick Strawkins wrote:I think Ophelia does support Pussy Riot, at least I've seen news reports about them on her main 'butterflies and wheels' page.
I suspect she is not happy about their name but she is astute enough to realize that the only ones not supporting them are Putin and the Russian Orthodox church and she won't want to join with them.
The question I would ask is whether Ophelia supports Taslima Nasreen's views about pornography and prostitution or whether she supports the views of Greta and (Mr) Ed Brayton.
Brian Newton from Leicester covered the Marathon distance of 42.195 kilometres (26 miles 385 yards) whilst carrying 1 cwt (50.8 kg) of household coal in an open bag in a time of 8 hours and 26 minutes on 27 May 1983¹. So I'm going with a "Yes".dustbubble wrote: Ask me some thing sensible, like .. is a live sheep a worse lift than a hundredweight of coal?)
Ah, what a silly old Hector I am. Of course. Not much cop as a friend of Dorothy, am I?The Pelagic Argosy wrote: It's clearly the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz with Richard Dawkins (note lopsided smile) shopped over the face.
Well, strictly speaking as a skeptic you should go and check for yourself. Nullius in verba, and all that.dustbubble wrote:O god do I have to?Michael K Gray wrote:.. vast steaming truckloads on other sites, such as Thunderf00t's & c.
Do keep up.
Is the right answer </Tarrant>. Gimme the coal anytime. That's why I'd never fight a farmer. One under each arm and not even red in the face. Unless you catch him in the shippon ..)The Pelagic Argosy wrote:.. carrying 1 cwt (50.8 kg) of household coal in an open bag in a time of 8 hours and 26 minutes ... [/url]. So I'm going with a "Yes".
It's coal all the way for me. I was born in a South Yorkshire pit 'ouse. Den of privilege. Outside lav, but a ton o' free coal in t'coal 'ole. Never had any truck with farmers. They make me uneasy.dustbubble wrote: Is the right answer </Tarrant>. Gimme the coal anytime. That's why I'd never fight a farmer. One under each arm and not even red in the face. Unless you catch him in the shippon ..)
I wonder how much of the A+theist thing is cowardice. If Jen tried to move into the Feminist community she would get the "female chauvinist pig" label fairly quickly (and probably worse). She could have said I am moving on to the community of feminism because that is where my priorities are at the moment. However she is probably aware that in the feminist community she would have to deal with some people who would have her tear ducts at full capacity 24/7. So the soft target was the sceptical/atheist community where people are generally apathetic about the fine points of others political agenda. I think she got something of a taste of the feminist community when she decided to make something of her friends (a male paid with a beer) idea of boobquake. For those interested http://vimeo.com/11967121 is where she says the idea was her friends and she also makes a (not funny but gets laughs anyway) rape joke!Dick Strawkins wrote:The feminist issue is the Achilles heel of the whole A+ idea. Feminism has numerous strands that hold incompatible views - particularly in regards to sex positivity. The A+ claim that they can simply apply skepticism to social issues is going to be sorely tested whenever this matter comes to the fore. Some prominent FTB feminists are very sex negative, Ophelia Benson and Taslima Nasreen, for example. Others such as Greta Christina have positions on sex work and pornography that are probably more extreme than that held by many MRAs (for example Greta's view that simulated child pornography is fine for healthy, kinky adults).CommanderTuvok wrote:Looking at the Twitter feed, there is a lot of criticism towards A+ from women, and yes, feminists, too.
No doubt they will be regarded as "chill girls" or "gender traitors", or summat.
Much of this reaction is from outside of the FfTB/Pit divide, and is more of a general indicator of the ill feeling the majority of the A/S movement has towards the Baboons and their new A+ idea.
These are value judgements.
How are they going to be worked out using skepticism?
Clicks WAY down since the weekend :(justinvacula wrote:If we get enough revenue from ads, we can always use it for SlymePitCon :p
Haven't we learned anything from FTB?Lsuoma wrote:Clicks WAY down since the weekend :(justinvacula wrote:If we get enough revenue from ads, we can always use it for SlymePitCon :p
I'm Sparticu...no, I mean, Elevator Guy!Dick Strawkins wrote:Haven't we learned anything from FTB?Lsuoma wrote:Clicks WAY down since the weekend :(justinvacula wrote:If we get enough revenue from ads, we can always use it for SlymePitCon :p
Time for a manufactroversy!
OK I admit it!
I am Elevator Guy!
You need a slimepit 101... How come I spent an age over at TFs blog saying what are your aims? Put them simply for me. What are you trying to achieve as it looks like all you want to do is say all of FtBs is shit then like a crazed coprophile you pour over every little bit of carrot and sweetcorn embedded in the shit. Looks like Mike K, John Welch and Tuvok are not on message as they did not make one mention of this amazing revelation.dustbubble wrote:If you don't want to understand why ordinarily inoffensive and retiring woodland creatures, such as me and Gray here, are so wound up about this runaway locomotive of shite, then that's fine.oolon wrote: In relation to having to trawl through the ERV archives to 'get' your point and as you point out someone would have to be a lunatic to do so... Does this not say something of those attracted to this particular internecine conflict?
It's just not very sceptical.
All we are after are a few straight answers to a few very, very simple questions.
Always have been. No other agenda, straightup guv.
Those questions were asked in the the first 2/3 weeks of July 2011 (it's spread across a few ERV threads, sort of dotting back and forth, as things occurred to people).
Turns out that's exactly the Wrong Attitude, intolerable for a North American Anglo Bourgeois College Atheist to have to contemplate, what with our nasty snidey foreign privilege and all. Who knew?
Answer came there none, just a squall of abuse and bannings, post-doctoring, deletions and quote-mining, outright lying, trolling and really outrageous stalking. With that fat useless cunt Myers urging the mob on.
Never wastes an opportunity to diss a woman, especially an inconsiderately smarter and crucially, younger actual scientist such as Smith, who shows him up for the stumpy malevolent booze-sodden failure that he is. Him and his co-dependent Watto.
You can almost smell the Fear in those old comments threads of his. Oh no that's right you can't because he redacted the fucking lot. The portly liar.
Apart from that Mrs Oolon, how did you enjoy the play?
You fucking moron. Our aims are simple - ethical behaviour and actual Freethought. You fucking imbecile. FTB pisses over both. You are a cult. You drink ideological poison and want more. Noxious vermin. The lot of you would have made excellent concentration camp guards. Moral wasteland. Disgusting slugs.oolon wrote:You need a slimepit 101... How come I spent an age over at TFs blog saying what are your aims? Put them simply for me. What are you trying to achieve as it looks like all you want to do is say all of FtBs is shit then like a crazed coprophile you pour over every little bit of carrot and sweetcorn embedded in the shit. Looks like Mike K, John Welch and Tuvok are not on message as they did not make one mention of this amazing revelation.
What questions?
Does "We Are All Africans" Co-Opt Black Identity?My understanding is that one of the reasons for Atheism+ is to create a safe space and to not associate with haters....
Given that we already have a slyme pit regular participating ... I think this is a good time to ask the question. IMO if someone is a regular participant on a hate site then you should consider very carefully if they are welcome to participate here.
I was browsing around the RDF store today (thinking about buying a deadtree copy of Greta's book) and I saw that they're selling the "We Are All Africans" shirts. I saw a bunch of these at Reason Rally this year and really liked them. Now, however, I'm wondering how people who are actually African (or more recently African-descended than I am) might feel about the shirts. Do they run the risk of seeming like they're trying to co-opt black identity? I'm sure there are people who relate very closely to their African heritage and I wouldn't want to wear a shirt that implied that I might be trying to lay claim to a heritage that is not my own. Or am I just reading too much into this?
Ideally I'd like to get the shirt as I think it's an interesting conversation piece, but I'd rather make sure my own privilege isn't blinding me to potential problems with the slogan.
Originally my question was basically "Why is Elevator Guy necessarily sexist?"oolon wrote:You need a slimepit 101... How come I spent an age over at TFs blog saying what are your aims? Put them simply for me. What are you trying to achieve as it looks like all you want to do is say all of FtBs is shit then like a crazed coprophile you pour over every little bit of carrot and sweetcorn embedded in the shit. Looks like Mike K, John Welch and Tuvok are not on message as they did not make one mention of this amazing revelation.dustbubble wrote:If you don't want to understand why ordinarily inoffensive and retiring woodland creatures, such as me and Gray here, are so wound up about this runaway locomotive of shite, then that's fine.oolon wrote: In relation to having to trawl through the ERV archives to 'get' your point and as you point out someone would have to be a lunatic to do so... Does this not say something of those attracted to this particular internecine conflict?
It's just not very sceptical.
All we are after are a few straight answers to a few very, very simple questions.
Always have been. No other agenda, straightup guv.
Those questions were asked in the the first 2/3 weeks of July 2011 (it's spread across a few ERV threads, sort of dotting back and forth, as things occurred to people).
Turns out that's exactly the Wrong Attitude, intolerable for a North American Anglo Bourgeois College Atheist to have to contemplate, what with our nasty snidey foreign privilege and all. Who knew?
Answer came there none, just a squall of abuse and bannings, post-doctoring, deletions and quote-mining, outright lying, trolling and really outrageous stalking. With that fat useless cunt Myers urging the mob on.
Never wastes an opportunity to diss a woman, especially an inconsiderately smarter and crucially, younger actual scientist such as Smith, who shows him up for the stumpy malevolent booze-sodden failure that he is. Him and his co-dependent Watto.
You can almost smell the Fear in those old comments threads of his. Oh no that's right you can't because he redacted the fucking lot. The portly liar.
Apart from that Mrs Oolon, how did you enjoy the play?
What questions?
Don't say I'm not good to you. Most of it's here in handy digestible form, courtesy of scat-franc et multi alii.oolon wrote: You need a slimepit 101... How come I spent an age over at TFs blog saying what are your aims? Put them simply for me.
What questions?
OK then big boy, you write down what kind of shoes you had on, and post it in a sealed envelope/easily hacked email to I dunno, Randi or Dawkins or somebody.Dick Strawkins wrote:I am Elevator Guy!
Yeah well I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment - if you just want to parody then I have no issues personally - otherwise I'd be a massive hypocrite (Or more than usual anyway)Notung wrote:Oolon - the reason why I post here is that I was a poster on the original ERV threads pretty much from the start.
When I saw people being shouted down, banned, accused of x,y,z back in July '11, I thought I should add my voice to those dissenting. Not enough people stood up to it IMO, and that is what gave rise to the attacks on DJ and the vilification of others.
Some people say it's obsessive, but those people often read Manboobz. What's the difference? On Manboobz the guy trawls the web looking for misogyny. Here, we document and discuss this new wave of 'social justice warriors' trying to co-opt the atheism/skepticism movement for their own ends. That's not 'obsessive', any more than the Daily Show is 'obsessive' for watching Fox and laughing at it.
It's just a forum thread. I don't see why people get so hung up about it, wanting to portray it as some kind of 'hate site'. If that's true, then Manboobz is a hate site, FTB is a hate site, the Daily Show is a hate show...
This whole 'guilt by association' rubbish is annoying me as well. If I post on a forum, that doesn't mean that I agree with everything posted by every other poster. Nobody ever thinks that about other forums, so why do they think it about this place? I just see it as an excuse to not have to think, and instead just call someone a 'slimepitter' as if that discredits what they're saying. I've posted on Christian forums too. Does that make me a Christian? Ludicrous.
Unless this is some sort of sophisticated parody I don't get... I can laugh at it, but it really seems to take itself seriously which is where I get my ammo for parody at Thunderf00ts site. A lot on your side seem to take themselves and their mission far too seriously for my liking and I don't see much of you parody loving types taking the piss out of your own ranks and opinions from time to time...franc wrote: You fucking moron. Our aims are simple - ethical behaviour and actual Freethought. You fucking imbecile. FTB pisses over both. You are a cult. You drink ideological poison and want more. Noxious vermin. The lot of you would have made excellent concentration camp guards. Moral wasteland. Disgusting slugs.
This is some seriously funny stuff. People of privilege literally do not give a flying fuck what "little" people like Andy think, much less if they even exist.franc wrote:However, I assure you this Andy thing is 110% real.Postby AndyTheNerd » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:48 pm
I think what most people don't understand about privilege is that privileged people get cookies for acknowledging their own privilege. A sign of "getting it" would be to say "hey, I'm just being a decent human being, take the energy you would otherwise be spending rewarding me for recognizing my privilege, and instead use that energy to go educate yourself by listening to minority and non-privileged groups".
Actually, after blahgs came along, I thought it would be fantastic if someone did a parody of Slymepit as a faction that separated freethoughtblahgs. I thought for a second on doing it but then quickly dismissed the idea. It needs way too much time and talent that and I don't have either. But I'll laugh along if anyone does some slymepit parody though.Unless this is some sort of sophisticated parody I don't get... I can laugh at it, but it really seems to take itself seriously which is where I get my ammo for parody at Thunderf00ts site.
Oh no. The Baboons are fretting over T-shirt messages again! A dozen posters or so on that A+ thread and they can't quite decide if it a a teeny, weeny bit racist, or a bit privileged, or a bit patronising, or something or other. It is hard to see what they are actually moaning about. But since the gripe is directed towards Dawkins, there doesn't need to be a reason, does there?I was browsing around the RDF store today (thinking about buying a deadtree copy of Greta's book) and I saw that they're selling the "We Are All Africans" shirts. I saw a bunch of these at Reason Rally this year and really liked them. Now, however, I'm wondering how people who are actually African (or more recently African-descended than I am) might feel about the shirts. Do they run the risk of seeming like they're trying to co-opt black identity? I'm sure there are people who relate very closely to their African heritage and I wouldn't want to wear a shirt that implied that I might be trying to lay claim to a heritage that is not my own. Or am I just reading too much into this?
Ideally I'd like to get the shirt as I think it's an interesting conversation piece, but I'd rather make sure my own privilege isn't blinding me to potential problems with the slogan
Therein lies your problem - how could you tell some of the more extreme slimepit members from a parody? They'd probably just join in with the conversations on how Peezus's feminazi-nun moon base is nearing completion and how do we get enough giant strawberry flavoured dildo's in time to beat them to death with?Trophy wrote:Actually, after blahgs came along, I thought it would be fantastic if someone did a parody of Slymepit as a faction that separated freethoughtblahgs. I thought for a second on doing it but then quickly dismissed the idea. It needs way too much time and talent that and I don't have either. But I'll laugh along if anyone does some slymepit parody though.Unless this is some sort of sophisticated parody I don't get... I can laugh at it, but it really seems to take itself seriously which is where I get my ammo for parody at Thunderf00ts site.
Few points:oolon wrote:Therein lies your problem - how could you tell some of the more extreme slimepit members from a parody? They'd probably just join in with the conversations on how Peezus's feminazi-nun moon base is nearing completion and how do we get enough giant strawberry flavoured dildo's in time to beat them to death with?
Don’t drink to the point of stupidity if you don’t have someone to keep track of you for the entire evening.
Be aware of your surroundings and the people you are with.
How are you conducting yourself? Are you running around like a drunken ass or are you having a quiet geeky conversation?
Uncomfortable? Extract yourself from the situation. Walk away.
I'm wondering if that's the same slimy Simon who can usually be found adding one last redundant comment on any Baboon topic which has gone past it's sell-by-date. I always get the impression that he's the feeble, little kid who always desperately tags along with the gang, even though the gang is hardly aware that he is there.Geoffrey Falk wrote:A+theism forums:
Users that exhibit bad behavior and/or hatred on other sites:
My understanding is that one of the reasons for Atheism+ is to create a safe space and to not associate with haters....
Given that we already have a slyme pit regular participating ... I think this is a good time to ask the question. IMO if someone is a regular participant on a hate site then you should consider very carefully if they are welcome to participate here.
E-meters at the ready, fellow Clears!Again, I would urge the forum overlords to re-think and perhaps add a thin layer of vetting and/or scrutiny as people join. One option is to have a waiting period before account approval. Another is to allow limited privileges until a certain post-count is reached. I am merely throwing ideas out that have been tried elsewhere and there are no doubt countless others.
Didn't James Onen do something like this...somewhere?oolon wrote:
You need a slimepit 101... How come I spent an age over at TFs blog saying what are your aims? Put them simply for me.
What questions?
Ahahahah!oolon wrote: Oh I also argue there that Peezus does not ban for no good reason... Happy to test it out by posting here.
I have a sneaking suspicion though that this little twerp saw a magazine cover advertising an article on anorexia and the fashion industry and reasoned that his friends getting offended was a far more important concern. Of course s/he didn't bother to link to an example of what they were talking about...Re: Fat shaming
Postby wytchy » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:16 am
Fat shaming is bad, but I'm uncomfortable with the way I've seen it swing in reverse. There was a while when these pictures of beautiful curvy women were being juxtaposed with images of anorexic women or skinny models, with the phrase, "When did this (skinny girls) become hotter than this (curvy girls)?" I understand the intent behind it, but it also is, in a certain way, saying that skinny girls are not as hot as curvy girls. I have a few friends who were really offended by this meme that was going around, and I can understand why. I think the discussion needs to shift from focusing on how big or little people are to how healthy they are. [blah blah blah]
Though I've never wanked - angrily or otherwise - to FfTB, I might add, as 'prurient' would seem to imply on a second reading. *blushes*Tigzy wrote: Also, I will admit to a prurient fascination with the train-wreck that is FfTB...
I said it - you are a FtBs coprophile... Its all shit to you but you love to smear it all over yourself while chanting 'I hate Peezus, I hate Rebecca, I hate Ophelia... Hmmm... Hmmm' Oops that seems to have gone into prurient territory as well.Tigzy wrote:Though I've never wanked - angrily or otherwise - to FfTB, I might add, as 'prurient' would seem to imply on a second reading. *blushes*Tigzy wrote: Also, I will admit to a prurient fascination with the train-wreck that is FfTB...
But now I'm stuck - what's the word used to describe an unseemly fascination with something horrible? Because that's the word which would adequately describe my interest in FfTB.
It has nothing to do withhogglwanking.
Honest.
:lol: Looks like you're enjoying yourself too, Oolon!oolon wrote:I said it - you are a FtBs coprophile... Its all shit to you but you love to smear it all over yourself while chanting 'I hate Peezus, I hate Rebecca, I hate Ophelia... Hmmm... Hmmm' Oops that seems to have gone into prurient territory as well.Tigzy wrote:Though I've never wanked - angrily or otherwise - to FfTB, I might add, as 'prurient' would seem to imply on a second reading. *blushes*Tigzy wrote: Also, I will admit to a prurient fascination with the train-wreck that is FfTB...
But now I'm stuck - what's the word used to describe an unseemly fascination with something horrible? Because that's the word which would adequately describe my interest in FfTB.
It has nothing to do withhogglwanking.
Honest.
