Steerzing in a New Direction...

[John D]

Matt will tell me that it's a bad storytelling technique

All I did was observe the Hollywood maxim, 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story.' Which, if you replace 'truth' with 'History', gets you SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, or with 'the laws of Physics', gets you INTERSTELLAR.

Band of Brothers. All the individual stories in Band of Brothers happened to individual people.... but they did not all happen to Easy Company. But who cares... what great story-telling.

[Service Dog]

"what is a woman ... We came from Adam's rib...

Congratulations. This is no longer the dumbest answer to the question. It's not even the bronze medal winner, anymore. Thanks to Ketanji Brown Jackson, the Left, and Steersman.

[John D]

"what is a woman ... We came from Adam's rib...

Congratulations. This is no longer the dumbest answer to the question. It's not even the bronze medal winner, anymore. Thanks to Ketanji Brown Jackson, the Left, and Steersman.

Haha. Oh dog.... you nailed it. The Biblical story of the definition of a woman makes more sense than the secular definition. Haha.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

I guess some people still believe the piss soaked Russian hotel bed story is true.

Some horses have proven particularly pain resistant, hence the repeated flogging. Doesn't matter how hard you wallop the fuckers there's barely a flicker of a response. Take the DNC server hack, for instance. There are a mountain of questions over Crowdstrike's expertees and honesty and the conclusions drawn from their bullshit, whether the DNC emails were actually retrieved by hackers and why the Clinton campaign was not investigated for possibly committing a crime by waiting to report the breaches by the two bears, thereby exposing some sensitive comms. They were trying to get some of the exposed data into Trump's hands so that they could accuse him of collusion. This shit is not trivial, the fact that they faced no scrutiny goes to the heart of the rot in the system. The real question is why the horse still needs beating.

The irony of the Russia bullshit is that the Clinton campaign to smear Trump and Rachel Maddow's hysteria were exactly the kind of thing the Russians were aiming for. The rot is now even more entrenched, so no, "move on" doesn't fly..

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Names and faces are a bitch. I know that people love it when someone remembers their name and face. I often screw this up. I do find that being honest helps. I will often just be honest and say... "Hi, I know you, but I honestly can't remember your name. What is your name?" ... and I will laugh and grin and shake their hand and repeat their name and apologize. It works pretty well for me. I find most people forgive you for forgetting as long as you are genuine in being kind to them. Some people are really offended if you forget their name. These people are hard for me to build a relationship with.

I live around black people and yes, I'm going there. I can't tell some of them apart if they have basically similar body types. You learn to differentiate faces by criteria most useful for the task in the people you grew up around. Them's the facts. I've actually told them that and they kind of understand. Doesn't help that the women often switch wigs or wear no wig at all.

[Lsuoma]

I have never carried 100 pounds. 65 pounds max.... and that was a really bad time. Again... I am not a big guy, but I am bigger than Strayed.

I done a career course alongside a bunch of paras (Parachute Regiment) many years ago. Part of the course involved a two-weeker "in the sticks" complete with longback, webbing, weapons, radios and all of the generic crap we lug around. One of the paras, a wee short-arse of about 5'6" height, had the most insane bergen I'd ever clapped eyes upon - the fucking thing was nearly the same size as him and weighed about 120lbs.

The little fucker humphed it around for the full exercise, zero complaints, and even set a blistering pace on several platoon moves. Mind you, the dude looked like a walking packing-crate - he was as wide as he was tall, pure muscle and hair-trigger-temper.

I miss cutting about on "angry camping" sessions. :(

Remember seeing a porn vid once. Some guy, hiking in the hills, with a fairly decent size backpack. Got to a clearing, opened the backpack, took out a midget and railed her for a bit, then put her back in and kept on walking...

[Lsuoma]

I have moments like that every week. The only difference is, I'm actually losing my edge.

Growing old is a proper bastard!

Oh that story is almost 20 years old. My upper body muscles can still handle 100 lbs, but it's my lower torso muscles giving way I'm worried about.

Now though, I do have to lift my 15 yo, 80lb dog into the truck. Growing old is a proper bastard, indeed!

80 yo, 15lb dog == much easier.

[MarcusAu]

"what is a woman ... We came from Adam's rib...

Congratulations. This is no longer the dumbest answer to the question. It's not even the bronze medal winner, anymore. Thanks to Ketanji Brown Jackson, the Left, and Steersman.

Haha. Oh dog.... you nailed it. The Biblical story of the definition of a woman makes more sense than the secular definition. Haha.

I'll take option [C] none of the above.

[John D]

Names and faces are a bitch. I know that people love it when someone remembers their name and face. I often screw this up. I do find that being honest helps. I will often just be honest and say... "Hi, I know you, but I honestly can't remember your name. What is your name?" ... and I will laugh and grin and shake their hand and repeat their name and apologize. It works pretty well for me. I find most people forgive you for forgetting as long as you are genuine in being kind to them. Some people are really offended if you forget their name. These people are hard for me to build a relationship with.

I live around black people and yes, I'm going there. I can't tell some of them apart if they have basically similar body types. You learn to differentiate faces by criteria most useful for the task in the people you grew up around. Them's the facts. I've actually told them that and they kind of understand. Doesn't help that the women often switch wigs or wear no wig at all.

Haha. I've told this story before....but... for about three years my brother and I played badminton twice a week with a local club. There was only a few other white guys. One old man and one guy from Germany. 80% of the players were Chinese or East Indian. So, my brother and I look quite alike. I mean... we are brothers... haha. But seriously... we had to tell them our names over and over again. They could never tell us apart. It was fucking hilarious... and my brother and I would just laugh. The Chinese guys especially... they thought we were twins or something. Haha.

[John D]

"what is a woman ... We came from Adam's rib...

Congratulations. This is no longer the dumbest answer to the question. It's not even the bronze medal winner, anymore. Thanks to Ketanji Brown Jackson, the Left, and Steersman.

Haha. Oh dog.... you nailed it. The Biblical story of the definition of a woman makes more sense than the secular definition. Haha.

I'll take option [C] none of the above.

Yeah...what exactly is option "C"? You now have a chance to explain it to us.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Band of Brothers. All the individual stories in Band of Brothers happened to individual people.... but they did not all happen to Easy Company. But who cares... what great story-telling.
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That's poetic license, that's okay. What I saw of Band of Brothers, I liked.

My sister & I are working on an historically accurate WWII script. But she keeps trying to inject anachronistic feminism & race shit, so not sure how far the collaboration will go. She's the previously accredited scriptwriter though.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

]Haha. I've told this story before....but... for about three years my brother and I played badminton twice a week with a local club. There was only a few other white guys. One old man and one guy from Germany. 80% of the players were Chinese or East Indian. So, my brother and I look quite alike. I mean... we are brothers... haha. But seriously... we had to tell them our names over and over again. They could never tell us apart. It was fucking hilarious... and my brother and I would just laugh. The Chinese guys especially... they thought we were twins or something. Haha.

[MarcusAu]

"what is a woman ... We came from Adam's rib...

Congratulations. This is no longer the dumbest answer to the question. It's not even the bronze medal winner, anymore. Thanks to Ketanji Brown Jackson, the Left, and Steersman.

Haha. Oh dog.... you nailed it. The Biblical story of the definition of a woman makes more sense than the secular definition. Haha.

I'll take option [C] none of the above.

Yeah...what exactly is option "C"? You now have a chance to explain it to us.

I'll ponder the metaphysical substrate on this one - and might possibly get back to you (chance being what it is) after Steersman has given his 2c worth.

[Steersman]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... A6nJWLPIYA

<snip>

I had a period in my life where I attacked this marriage model. I was a very militant atheist. I bashed all the Christian traditions as much as possible. Things look different to me now. Duty and honor are very useful models of behavior. My children can be stressed and undirected. Sam Harris is wrong...etc.

One (several) of the more (or less) sensible thing(s) you've said ... ;-)

Seems that far too many "atheists" are rather too quick to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater - to coin a phrase ...

And your "duty" comment reminds me of the religiously focused tome "The Purpose Driven Life". Some merit in the concept even if one might argue not all purposes are created equal or deserve the same levels of opprobrium or burnishment. Getting into the Guiness Book of World Records for the biggest ball of string (theory) for example ...

But reminds me also of another favourite author - Francis Bacon - who "held every man [woman and otherkin] to be a debtor to his profession". If not culture and civilization.

Somewhat apropos of which, you and others here might be interested in this article on "A Cybernetical Aspect of Genetics":

https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article ... m=fulltext

Never have managed to read the whole thing - paywalled; if anyone has access, I'd certainly appreciate a copy - but something of a synopsis from the portion that is available for free:

It is now widely realized, and if in some quarters still contested, that the similarities of the tasks which confront telecommunications systems, calculating machines and the nervous system may form a basis for a new approach to neuro-physiology. .... However, any geneticist, reading Wiener's Cybernetics will, I think, find that this new way of looking at life provides him at once with certain unifying principles useful in the interpretation of many of the facts of his own science. ....

Indeed. As you know, or should know, goal directed, or "purpose driven" behaviour - of all types - is part and parcel of feedback systems, the bread and butter of cybernetics.

And in case anyone needs a refresher on the concept or its etymology ... ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics#Etymology

[Steersman]

"what is a woman ... We came from Adam's rib...

Congratulations. This is no longer the dumbest answer to the question. It's not even the bronze medal winner, anymore. Thanks to Ketanji Brown Jackson, the Left, and Steersman.

:-) "Did she mention my name, just in passing ..." :romance-kisscheek: ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ni9hRaU5A

But you never take any geometry in high school? Axioms and theorems and such? Too far back?

That's all definitions are, the "axioms" of our discourse, that without which not. There's no magic, casting of spells [C-A-T, D-O-G ... :roll: ] or spiritual essence in them; Moses didn't bring the first dictionary down from Mt. Sinai on tablets A through Z. We decide what the words denote, what they refer to. Which change over time, often for sound reasons based on the insights and discoveries of science - "gametes, baby".

And the standard definition, the only one of any coherence, for "woman" is "adult human female", and that for "female" is "produces ova". If you don't like the logical consequences - as is the case with too many - notably that menopausees and the prepubescent are sexless then you can try and peddle your own idiosyncratic definitions - notably those by which "sex in humans is immutable" :roll: What a bunch of cretinous schlock.

But if your definitions lead to contradictions - notably that "penis-havers" get to qualify as women - then they're probably wrong or not particularly useful. You might try reflecting on Arthur Conan Doyle's quip:

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The issue, as James - beam me up Scotty - Kirkup emphasized, is whether "people-with-vaginas" (PWV) are entitled to spaces from which "people-with-penises" (PWP) are justifiably excluded:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sta ... -a-problem

What we CALL those individuals is somewhat irrelevant and often little more than a fraudulent and politically-motivated attempt to muddy the waters than to deal with the issue.

[Steersman]

I have moments like that every week. The only difference is, I'm actually losing my edge.

Growing old is a proper bastard!

Oh that story is almost 20 years old. My upper body muscles can still handle 100 lbs, but it's my lower torso muscles giving way I'm worried about.

Now though, I do have to lift my 15 yo, 80lb dog into the truck. Growing old is a proper bastard, indeed!

80 yo, 15lb dog == much easier.

:-) Photograph in a wallet is even easier ... ;-)

But to echo the other sentiments, reminds me of a quip of my mother - gawd rest her soul, even if she didn't always qualify as a woman ... ;-) - to the effect that getting old ain't for sissies. Sadly, more of a burden for some than others - genetic lotteries and all that.

Somewhat apropos of which, something from the gene-replacement-therapy front you might be interested in:

https://scitechdaily.com/breakthrough-d ... na-repair/

No indication whether that might justify arguments about "VAIDS" ... ;-)

[Steersman]

Band of Brothers. All the individual stories in Band of Brothers happened to individual people.... but they did not all happen to Easy Company. But who cares... what great story-telling.

That's poetic license, that's okay. What I saw of Band of Brothers, I liked.

My sister & I are working on an historically accurate WWII script. But she keeps trying to inject anachronistic feminism & race shit, so not sure how far the collaboration will go. She's the previously accredited scriptwriter though.

You and your sister, in particular, might want to check out the Substack by "feminist" "philosopher" Kathleen Stock; of particular note as to where she's coming from, a statement of principles nailed to her masthead:

... a newsletter mainly devoted to clawing feminism back from the idiots that ruined it

https://kathleenstock.substack.com/

Of particular note is her latest where she gives chapter and verse on the rot that characterizes far too much of Academia. Of particular note, in passing ..., is my own comment thereat which references several other essays on the same theme, notably one which argues, with some justification, that "universities are madrassas for woke stupidity". Amen to that:

https://kathleenstock.substack.com/p/co ... 885046?s=r

But while I'm somewhat critical of her own "unexamined assumptions" - notably the "sex is immutable" schlock, I have to give her a lot of credit. Whole essay is largely composed of typically sardonic British understatement, the cloak of which hides, in plain sight, some rather sharp twists of the knife. One is somewhat suprised that the Emperor and Empress - naked as jaybirds - are still standing, much less lurching about, after such eviseration.

In any case, if any here are interested in weighing-in over there with a cogent criticism or two - of anything - then I might have a gift subscription or two for a month or so in my bag of tricks ...

[free thoughtpolice]

Some questions for Steers:
By the time 90% of female humans reach 51.5 years they go through menopause, therefore are no longer women.
This begs a question. What is an old woman?
Since girls on average become sexually mature at about 14 and cease being women at about 52 a woman of 33 would be middle aged?
A woman of 40 years would be an old woman?

[free thoughtpolice]

My nomination for Slymepit Woman of the Year, although she is very old and may no longer be a woman.

[Service Dog]

https://media.patriots.win/post/6fQu7R0cK89H.jpeg

[Steersman]

Some questions for Steers:
By the time 90% of female humans reach 51.5 years they go through menopause, therefore are no longer women.
This begs a question. What is an old woman?
Since girls on average become sexually mature at about 14 and cease being women at about 52 a woman of 33 would be middle aged?
A woman of 40 years would be an old woman?

:-) Some very good questions, although, en passant, I'd heartily endorse your nomination of Greene as "Slymepit Woman of the Year", even with the qualification ... ;-)

But to try answering your questions, consider a term that many people use, often without much thinking, i.e., "infertile woman".

However, that constitutes something of an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms, a category error:

A category mistake, or category error, or categorical mistake, or mistake of category, is a semantic or ontological error in which things belonging to a particular category are presented as if they belong to a different category,[1] or, alternatively, a property is ascribed to a thing that could not possibly have that property.

;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake

By definition, a woman - "adult human female" - is, in fact - ipso facto, fertile: able to produce ova that can be used in the biological process of reproduction. A person simply can not be both fertile AND infertile, at least simultaneously. Any female organism - of any sexually reproducing species - simply cannot possibly have the property of "infertile". Does not compute; rank fucking insanity to so argue:

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https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/female

By which I argue or suggest that XXers who've entered menopause might reasonably [ ;) ] be called menopausees - like "murderer, and murderee" as Flip Wilson once suggested. A perfectly reasonable suffix.

Although "women" might reasonably be somewhat disconcerted or nonplussed by the term, particularly as they might feel somewhat disadvantaged since men seem not as susceptible to getting their "sex membership cards" revoked with age. But I remember reading that some 7% of "men" - i.e., adult human XYers - are likewise infertile. In addition to which, many men get vasectomies which might reasonably exclude them also from the "exalted" :roll: category "men". And, from a more personal perspective, as I've never had kids, it is entirely possible I've been "shooting blanks" all this time - still "had me some fun", even if it was often rather expensive in more ways than one - and thereby don't qualify for that membership card either. Big fucking deal.

The terms are, as defined, just labels that denote, are signs of, quite transitory biological capabilities that, on the basis of a horse-back guestimation, excludes some third of us, at any one time, from sex category membership:

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That is maybe the silver lining in the cloud of transgenderism: drawing attention to some profoundly problematic, pernicious, and pervasive "cognitive distortions" and misperceptions as to what it means to be members of particular categories. Most people don't seem to have much of a problem accepting that once a person has their 20th birthday they no longer qualify as teenagers - because they don't possess the "necessary and sufficient condition" for category membership, i.e., being 13 to 19 - yet they scream bloody-blue-murder :roll: if one even suggests the same principle should apply to other categories - like "male" and "female" ....

But, to answer a few of your other questions more directly, and based on the above definitions, one might argue that a post-pubescent XXer of 20 qualifies as a young woman while a pre-menopausal XXer of 50 might qualify as an oldish woman. HTH ;-)

[Service Dog]

ftp should ask steers to explain other aspects of reality.

Wikipedia is a better source than woke pedos.

[Steersman]

ftp should ask steers to explain other aspects of reality.

Wikipedia is a better source than woke pedos.

:) :handgestures-salute: ;)

(Though not sure why I get a Server Error if I try to respond directly; post ID or time incorrect? :think: ...)

But as something of an elaboration on my earlier, "misperceptions as to what it means to be members of particular categories", a rather brilliant tweet, if not the most brilliant thing I've run across in the whole transgender clusterfuck - almost a Road-To-Damascus revelation, from "Radfem Black" which first pointed me in the direction of an inkling of an understanding on those misperceptions:



Of note is that she had been subsequently blocked by who she responded to, and that "Mayor Watermelon" subsequently had his Twitter account suspended:

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But a fairly common and problematic perspective, something that the "Mayor" subsequently blogged about:

“Sex-based definitions of ‘man’ and ‘woman’ reduce people to their genitals or reproductive organs.”

For some reason, this is one of the most common tropes transgender advocates rely on to defend their idea of gender as a personal identity. But the problem with this line is obvious: Asserting that a group of people share a particular feature doesn’t reduce them to that feature. In essentially any other situation, this would be self-evident. After all, no one thinks it ‘reduces Black people to their melanin’ when we acknowledge that they have dark skin, or that it ‘reduces blind people to their eyes’ when we acknowledge they can’t see.

https://genderarguments.com/reducingpeo ... rgenitals/

Bit of a puzzle how and why that happens, and I sure don't fully understand all of what's happening "underneath the hood". But it seems that many people don't realize that categories - "vertebrate", "teenager", "male", "female", etc - are abstractions; that they're not things in themselves; that people don't get to qualify as members unless they exhibit or possess the "necessary and sufficient conditions" that constitute the "membership dues". Though many women - nominal or otherwise - seem to stumble over the same hurdle, the same misperception, the same "sin" or logical fallacy of reification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)

Which I tried to elaborate on - in exhaustive if not exhausting detail ... ;-) - in a LetterWiki post that departed from that same tweet of Radfem Black (actually in the second letter of two), at least in the use of the vertebrate category:

https://letter.wiki/conversation/185#letter_1686

[Bhurzum]

Some questions for Steers:
By the time 90% of female humans reach 51.5 years they go through menopause, therefore are no longer women.
This begs a question. What is an old woman?
Since girls on average become sexually mature at about 14 and cease being women at about 52 a woman of 33 would be middle aged?
A woman of 40 years would be an old woman?

:-) Some very good questions, although, en passant, I'd heartily endorse your nomination of Greene as "Slymepit Woman of the Year", even with the qualification ... ;-)

But to try answering your questions, consider a term that many people use, often without much thinking, i.e., "infertile woman".

However, that constitutes something of an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms, a category error:

A category mistake, or category error, or categorical mistake, or mistake of category, is a semantic or ontological error in which things belonging to a particular category are presented as if they belong to a different category,[1] or, alternatively, a property is ascribed to a thing that could not possibly have that property.

;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake

By definition, a woman - "adult human female" - is, in fact - ipso facto, fertile: able to produce ova that can be used in the biological process of reproduction. A person simply can not be both fertile AND infertile, at least simultaneously. Any female organism - of any sexually reproducing species - simply cannot possibly have the property of "infertile". Does not compute; rank fucking insanity to so argue:


Oxford_Definitions_Female4A.jpg

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/female

By which I argue or suggest that XXers who've entered menopause might reasonably [ ;) ] be called menopausees - like "murderer, and murderee" as Flip Wilson once suggested. A perfectly reasonable suffix.

Although "women" might reasonably be somewhat disconcerted or nonplussed by the term, particularly as they might feel somewhat disadvantaged since men seem not as susceptible to getting their "sex membership cards" revoked with age. But I remember reading that some 7% of "men" - i.e., adult human XYers - are likewise infertile. In addition to which, many men get vasectomies which might reasonably exclude them also from the "exalted" :roll: category "men". And, from a more personal perspective, as I've never had kids, it is entirely possible I've been "shooting blanks" all this time - still "had me some fun", even if it was often rather expensive in more ways than one - and thereby don't qualify for that membership card either. Big fucking deal.

The terms are, as defined, just labels that denote, are signs of, quite transitory biological capabilities that, on the basis of a horse-back guestimation, excludes some third of us, at any one time, from sex category membership:


ReproductiveClasses2B.jpg


That is maybe the silver lining in the cloud of transgenderism: drawing attention to some profoundly problematic, pernicious, and pervasive "cognitive distortions" and misperceptions as to what it means to be members of particular categories. Most people don't seem to have much of a problem accepting that once a person has their 20th birthday they no longer qualify as teenagers - because they don't possess the "necessary and sufficient condition" for category membership, i.e., being 13 to 19 - yet they scream bloody-blue-murder :roll: if one even suggests the same principle should apply to other categories - like "male" and "female" ....

But, to answer a few of your other questions more directly, and based on the above definitions, one might argue that a post-pubescent XXer of 20 qualifies as a young woman while a pre-menopausal XXer of 50 might qualify as an oldish woman. HTH ;-)

I loved this post!

Read it to a few friends (over VOIP) causing a tsunami of argumentation, heated debate and not a little animosity. Several agree with you, a few swung back-and-forth before returning to the fence, a few strongly objected to the definition(s) in use (purely because they couldn't argue their "side" otherwise) and I sat in silence with a smirk nailed to my face.

Note: I'm not a "man" because I had my plums cracked after our second kid - no idea what I am but beer still tastes good, I loves me some titties and the world continues to turn!

#ViveLaSteersman

[Steersman]

<snip>

That is maybe the silver lining in the cloud of transgenderism: drawing attention to some profoundly problematic, pernicious, and pervasive "cognitive distortions" and misperceptions as to what it means to be members of particular categories. Most people don't seem to have much of a problem accepting that once a person has their 20th birthday they no longer qualify as teenagers - because they don't possess the "necessary and sufficient condition" for category membership, i.e., being 13 to 19 - yet they scream bloody-blue-murder :roll: if one even suggests the same principle should apply to other categories - like "male" and "female" ....

But, to answer a few of your other questions more directly, and based on the above definitions, one might argue that a post-pubescent XXer of 20 qualifies as a young woman while a pre-menopausal XXer of 50 might qualify as an oldish woman. HTH ;-)

I loved this post!

Read it to a few friends (over VOIP) causing a tsunami of argumentation, heated debate and not a little animosity. Several agree with you, a few swung back-and-forth before returning to the fence, a few strongly objected to the definition(s) in use (purely because they couldn't argue their "side" otherwise) and I sat in silence with a smirk nailed to my face.

Note: I'm not a "man" because I had my plums cracked after our second kid - no idea what I am but beer still tastes good, I loves me some titties and the world continues to turn!

#ViveLaSteersman

:) :flags-wavegreatbritain: :flags-canada: :handgestures-salute: ;)

Though "plums cracked" sounds painful ... ;-)

But thanks muchly, appreciate the feedback. Though a bit curious - of all of the friends you discussed that with, were any of the "female persuasion"? :-) They definitely tend to be more prevalent among the "nays" than the "yeas", though they're not the whole population of the former, but pretty much a dearth of them in the latter. See for example "BigDTwo" who I assume is male, nominally or otherwise :-)

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Something I've been "beavering" away at for several years; nice to see a bit of light dawning :-)

https://medium.com/@steersmann/the-impe ... 4154213e42

But that "not actual capability" is sort of the sticking point for many - it's not a big deal in most cases, but when push comes to shove, it can be crucial. "feminist" "philosopher" Jane Clare Jones kind of took a run at it, but seemed to succeed only in tieing herself up in knots, she being of the "infertile women are women!!11!! [IWAW]" tribe :-)

https://janeclarejones.files.wordpress. ... -women.pdf

[Service Dog]

I loved this post!

Read it to a few friends (over VOIP) causing a tsunami of argumentation, heated debate and not a little animosity. Several agree with you, a few swung back-and-forth before returning to the fence, a few strongly objected

[Lsuoma]

Edit button for Twatter?

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/n ... it-button/

[Lsuoma]

No edit button for El Pitto...

[Steersman]

I loved this post!

Read it to a few friends (over VOIP) causing a tsunami of argumentation, heated debate and not a little animosity. Several agree with you, a few swung back-and-forth before returning to the fence, a few strongly objected

https://youtu.be/-FHlvEc3vaE

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;)

[Bhurzum]

Though a bit curious - of all of the friends you discussed that with, were any of the "female persuasion"? :-) They definitely tend to be more prevalent among the "nays" than the "yeas", though they're not the whole population of the former, but pretty much a dearth of them in the latter.

About ten males (aged from 20 - 50)
Two females (aged 25 and 30)

Note: all ages are estimates.

Very mixed bunch - students, tradesmen, one musician, couple unemployed. Same with politics, some lefty, some right wing, a few fence-sitters etc.

It was a slow start as they batted around definitions, explored the implications of your views then after a few minutes, they started to pour their own opinions onto the fire. It was a glorious blaze, everyone was burned and I laughed my ass off!

Oh, and the group are members of an online gaming clan. The only real common ground they share is a love of blasting digital commies.

[Steersman]

Though a bit curious - of all of the friends you discussed that with, were any of the "female persuasion"? :-) They definitely tend to be more prevalent among the "nays" than the "yeas", though they're not the whole population of the former, but pretty much a dearth of them in the latter.

About ten males (aged from 20 - 50)
Two females (aged 25 and 30)

Note: all ages are estimates.

Very mixed bunch - students, tradesmen, one musician, couple unemployed. Same with politics, some lefty, some right wing, a few fence-sitters etc.

Thks. Interesting - and encouraging - that increasing numbers of people are starting to recognize the rank insanity of "self-identification". Archived Telegraph article here on "NHS equality chief leads mutiny against ‘transphobic’ watchdog ruling":

New guidance from the EHRC states transgender women can be lawfully excluded from female-only spaces

An NHS equality chief was on Tuesday leading the mutiny against a ruling from a government watchdog that trans people can be excluded from single-sex wards.

Bosses within the health service publicly criticised guidance from the Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) which stated that it is lawful to exclude someone who is born a man from women’s spaces if there is a legitimate reason. ...

https://archive.ph/v1Y51

But I'm kind of peeved at The Telegraph's "transgender women" - and likewise for describing that "NHS equality chief", Tara Hewitt, as a "trans woman" instead of a "transwoman", adjective-noun pair versus compound word. Although the Daily Mail and The Times use the same phrasing. But they're male transvestites if they still have their nuts in working order, or sexless eunuchs if they've had them removed. I see that Hewitt looks like a woman, at first blush, and I might have called her such and used "she" and "her". But don't see that dressing up as a woman or mangling one's body to look like one is sufficient justification to access women(sex)-only spaces.

It was a slow start as they batted around definitions, explored the implications of your views then after a few minutes, they started to pour their own opinions onto the fire. It was a glorious blaze, everyone was burned and I laughed my ass off!

:-) Comfort the afflicted, afflict the comfortable ...

But hopefully that will precipitate some thought about the whole issue, and the consequences of sloppy or self-serving definitions.

Oh, and the group are members of an online gaming clan. The only real common ground they share is a love of blasting digital commies.

:-) I remember playing Doom many moons ago - a very "visceral" response.

[fuzzy]

[MarcusAu]

My nomination for Slymepit Woman of the Year, although she is very old and may no longer be a woman.

Also she (?) may not qualify as human based on the way her feet look.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Much as I despise Biden, even I feel sorry for him after watching this. Imagine being treated with such open contempt by your underlings. Is this a reflection of the real power hierarchy?

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Ever since leaving the WH, Obama has let his true dickhead shine through.

I feel no pity for Biden. He's always been a venal, lying piece of shit who treated others like dirt.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Hunter is gonna get indicted, and 10 For The Big Guy is implicated. Even without that scandal looming, Joe is dragging down the Party. He was useful in blocking Bernie and taking down Trump, but he's a liability now. Something is in the works to dump Joe. What they do about Kamala remains to be seen.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

The Biden house of cards is about to collapse:
Joe Biden’s Released Tax Returns Don’t Explain Millions In Income. Where Did It Come From?

[fuzzy]

Clearly they are setting us up for Michelle.

[free thoughtpolice]

My nomination for Slymepit Woman of the Year, although she is very old and may no longer be a woman.

Also she (?) may not qualify as human based on the way her feet look.

The sporkfoot is libwoke bullying and plenty of non Neanderthal have feet exactly like that.

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[John D]

So... adventures in John D land.

Fucking... went to the doctor today. I was on time for my appointment to get my blood pressure tested. I test at home most days so I have a good idea what my BP is. Still... it would be nice to know what a professional measures me at. Waited for one hour in the waiting room. I finally took one of the sign in stickers... I wrote "John D will not wait any longer." and I left... sticking the label on the desk. One hour to get my BP measured. Just fuck off.

My Dracula's America Arcanist got promoted to "hero" level last night. Fuck yeah! Gonna kick some ass next week. Gonna summon giant Chinese lions!

I don't feel sorry for Joe Biden. He is a wicked evil little crook. Hope he dies tomorrow...except that then we would have the idiot Harris as President. But... really... fuck him to hell.

Tried to play "The Man Comes Around" by Johnny Cash since Fuzzy posted it. Fucking Hell. I can play all the notes and sing all the words... but... it sounds so weak. Shit. I cannot perform any Johnny Cash songs... he is just too good. I sometimes play "Hurt" with my friends, but it is always unsatisfying. Cash is just too good. His voice is somehow magical.

[Service Dog]

John-- do you know Johnny Cash's children's album? I think-- on the right (wrong) day-- you could get in the right mood-- to sing 'Nasty Dan'.

[John D]

Nasty Dan written by Jeff Moss who also wrote Rubber Duckie. Haha.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I don't feel sorry for Joe Biden. He is a wicked evil little crook. Hope he dies tomorrow...except that then we would have the idiot Harris as President.

The situation is like when you're constipated but also have diarrhea coming down the tubes. You gotta strain and bleed to get the former out, then immediately endure the latter until it's run it's course.

That's a NIN cover, which may please Bhurzum.

I'm fond of Social Distortion's cover of Ring of Fire (which, IIRC, was written by June):

[Bhurzum]

That's a NIN cover, which may please Bhurzum.

It's a source of much annoyance - the NiN/Reznor version is definitive (even though I do like the Cash cover) but it's incredibly annoying to read/hear people say Cash wrote the song. Also, people quote Trent Reznor saying "the song belongs to cash now" but that's a tiny part of his full statement. He also says that Cash's cover feels invasive and incredibly uncomfortable because "hurt" was written by him and is about him and is very, very personal.

Still, at the end of the day, it was a pretty powerful way for Cash to bow out. Also, the video hits you in the guts like a sledge hammer!



Good live rendition but the studio/album version, complete with "industrial" backing, is the version!

Nine Inch Nails are one of my absolute favourite acts - the entire discography is littered with amazing music, warped/dark lyrics and themes and after a good session, listening to them can leave you utterly drained!

Again, linking this track - Reznor's farewell to David Bowie (they were close friends) - it's a masterpiece of musical minimalism and subtlety:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Gigabytes of hurt coming for Hunter:

Whistleblower who handed Hunter's abandoned laptop to congressmen and DailyMail.com reveals he has 450 gigabytes of DELETED material including 80,000 images and videos

He said he intends to post them all online in a searchable database in the coming weeks.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Gigabytes of hurt coming for Hunter:

Whistleblower who handed Hunter's abandoned laptop to congressmen and DailyMail.com reveals he has 450 gigabytes of DELETED material including 80,000 images and videos

He said he intends to post them all online in a searchable database in the coming weeks.

Don't hold your breath. Who is going to force the FBI to investigate? "I'll get right on it!", words you won't be hearing from Garland. Do you trust that the original laptop is not going to disappear or that FBI forensics will verify the existence of the deleted data? There is already more than enough evidence on the laptop to warrant an investigation and yet only the tax related data is being used. This Maxey guy is associated with Bannon and you can imagine the use the slimy media are going to make of that.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Don't hold your breath. Who is going to force the FBI to investigate? "I'll get right on it!", words you won't be hearing from Garland. Do you trust that the original laptop is not going to disappear or that FBI forensics will verify the existence of the deleted data? There is already more than enough evidence on the laptop to warrant an investigation and yet only the tax related data is being used. This Maxey guy is associated with Bannon and you can imagine the use the slimy media are going to make of that.

There are multiple copies of the HD. No one is trying any more to pretend the HD is not authentic.

A US Attorney, a Trump appointment, is investigating Hunter's taxes. It looks bad for Hunter and he we be indicted and likely end up in jail.

Emails and bank statements reveal that Hunter & Joe's finances were closely intertwined. Joe wrote a letter of recommendation for the son of one of Hunter's business partners -- a ChiCom party member, no less. The MSM are no longer covering any of this up.

The cat is out of the bag.

Garland is a dim bulb who'll do whatever he's told. But even without a special counsel investigating, the splash damage from Hunter will be fatal. Joe is finished. He was already a huge liability heading into the midterms, and the Dems have been searching for a way to dump him. Now, they can pressure Dr. Jill to allow Joe to resign, to avoid the coming scandal.

Obama's return to the limelight to celebrate a 12-year anniversary was no coincidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if Joe were to suffer a 'stroke' or something in the coming weeks.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Don't hold your breath. Who is going to force the FBI to investigate? "I'll get right on it!", words you won't be hearing from Garland. Do you trust that the original laptop is not going to disappear or that FBI forensics will verify the existence of the deleted data? There is already more than enough evidence on the laptop to warrant an investigation and yet only the tax related data is being used. This Maxey guy is associated with Bannon and you can imagine the use the slimy media are going to make of that.

There are multiple copies of the HD. No one is trying any more to pretend the HD is not authentic.

A US Attorney, a Trump appointment, is investigating Hunter's taxes. It looks bad for Hunter and he we be indicted and likely end up in jail.

Emails and bank statements reveal that Hunter & Joe's finances were closely intertwined. Joe wrote a letter of recommendation for the son of one of Hunter's business partners -- a ChiCom party member, no less. The MSM are no longer covering any of this up.

The cat is out of the bag.

Garland is a dim bulb who'll do whatever he's told. But even without a special counsel investigating, the splash damage from Hunter will be fatal. Joe is finished. He was already a huge liability heading into the midterms, and the Dems have been searching for a way to dump him. Now, they can pressure Dr. Jill to allow Joe to resign, to avoid the coming scandal.

Obama's return to the limelight to celebrate a 12-year anniversary was no coincidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if Joe were to suffer a 'stroke' or something in the coming weeks.

I cannot argue with the facts you present. Still don't trust the conclusions though. If they can bury it, they will. They can sideline Dopey Joe with the mere threat of throwing him to the wolves and I think the press are conducting a damage limitation exercise by acknowledging only the parts of the story which don't implicate the Big Guy.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

the press are conducting a damage limitation exercise by acknowledging only the parts of the story which don't implicate the Big Guy.

They're trying, half-heartedly, in vain. But the GOP will have control of at least the House come January, and then hearings will bring all the dirt to light. Better to ditch Joe now, and maybe minimize the mid-term disaster.

The Dem power brokers anointed Biden, they can depose him, too. Nobody, nobody, wants Joe any more. The only hold-up is what to do about Kamala.

[Steersman]

the press are conducting a damage limitation exercise by acknowledging only the parts of the story which don't implicate the Big Guy.

They're trying, half-heartedly, in vain. But the GOP will have control of at least the House come January, and then hearings will bring all the dirt to light. Better to ditch Joe now, and maybe minimize the mid-term disaster.

The Dem power brokers anointed Biden, they can depose him, too. Nobody, nobody, wants Joe any more. The only hold-up is what to do about Kamala.

Still not sure myself whether all of that isn't just circumstancial evidence, or less evidence of malice and venality than of stupidity - Hanlon's razor. But not looking good for The Big Guy and "Son" ....

Rather complicated and convoluted issue that I certainly don't have the spoons to untangle. But any Wikipedians here - or those with ostensible claims to being such ... ;-) - may wish to consider Larry Sanger's post on the Biden scandals preparatory to goosing the Wikipedians gatekeeping the Biden article, or at least pouring some salt on their tails:

https://larrysanger.org/2021/06/wikiped ... than-ever/

[Service Dog]

.

It feels like "New York is back!" or maybe *I* am.

I'm not giddy or manic. But too many remarkable things are happening each day-- for me to stop & remark on.

Today I met with a florist, for the upcoming jazz party at the design firm. Florist was a great guy-- dressed like a mexican gardener with face & accent to match. Entirely unpretentious. He said he'd take the job... but, I have another event that week. (Indeed. He's designing the flowers for the entire Met Gala. ha!) I described the white flowers-- which the client is designing the entire event around. The florist nodded... said he'd get to work. Then, after the call, the client sent a reference image-- and the flower they want... isn't white. I was shocked & amazed that they'd make such a huge change without a word of acknowledgement-- just a link to a photo. Crazy.

Other party plans change day-to-day. Entire rooms... with elaborate themes and interior plans, are deleted with one firm utterance.

My role fluctuates from daunting to laughably easy... day to day.

An entirely-different sort of 'remarkable' occurred, 2 days ago, when a co-worker's 32 year old son ended his life-- suicide?, overdose, accident... unclear. The co-worker is no friend of mine... he acts like an ass & once got me blacklisted from a company for no good reason. But his band & my band toured on the same bar circuit, back in the early 90's. And he knew my gf back when they were both teenagers. And gf knew the dead son-- since he was 3-- and all his life. So many crossed paths, over the years.

[free thoughtpolice]

[Matt Cavanaugh]

It feels like "New York is back!"

The Bronx Cheer has evolved quite a bit since I was last there.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/0 ... cit-video/

[free thoughtpolice]

Some horrible news from Ukraine:

[John D]

Dog… you are back! You know what your clients want.

[John D]

Some horrible news from Ukraine:

great post FTP. Thanks for sharing… god damn… I am just about to call it a day here. I have trouble making sense out of all this.

[fuzzy]

CNN has a strong history of accuracy with regards to Russia.

[Service Dog]

.

More of Pfizer's internal documents have been released, including redacted parts of the prior batch.

One revelation-- is that Pfizer had to hire 1,800 new fulltime employees-- in Pfizer's words-- "due to the large numbers of spontaneous adverse event reports received for the product"

Also included-- is the previously-redacted number of doses shipped worldwide, in the first 3 months of the vax release:

"“It is estimated that approximately 126,212,580 doses of BNT162b2 were shipped worldwide from the receipt of the first temporary authorisation for emergency supply on 01 December 2020 through 28 February 2021.”

Based on that denominator, the article below estimates a 1:1000 ratio-- one adverse event per 1,000 "vaccines".

I see some potential problems with that estimate.

Firstly, the number of doses shipped is not the number of doses administered. Looking back at old news stories-- I saw multiple countries reporting difficulties in the vax rollout... with less than half the doses received... actually injected into people.

Second, some countries followed the original plan of 2 doses per person. While others prioritized 1 dose per person-- until a large portion of their population had received a first dose.

Third, I recall Pfizer's data saying the adverse events reported were not evenly distributed: those who reported events-- usually reported SEVERAL adverse reactions in the same person.

A quick glance-back at posts by Steersman & myself-- to see how "126,212,580 doses, worldwide" compares to our attempts to derive a number...

the last numbers Steers offered were:

"43 million Americans got the jab vaccination with some 13,749 cases. And 10 to 34 million Britons got vaccinated for some 13,404 cases. Leaving some unknown number of people in France, Germany, Spain, Italy along with some 56 other countries creating the balance of the 42,000 cases, about 16,000 cases which might mean 20 to 50 million people."

Adding up those numbers creates a high estimate of 127 Million (almost identical to the number of Pfizer doses actually shipped!)
Or a low estimate of 73 Million (which correlates to the notion that half the doses shipped by Feb 28 2021 were not actually injected yet).

My estimate was lower-- due to the Pfizer vax being only one-of-several injections offered. Although we now know 126 Million Pfizer doses were shipped... we also know that only 127 Million doses of ANY type of Covid vax-- had actually been administered, at that time.

So my estimated numerator was that about-half of all the doses actually administered were Pfizer doses.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/04/05/newl ... se-events/

_____

In other news...

A second booster of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine increased protection against viral infection for only four to seven weeks, according to a massive study published Tuesday.

The study included 1.25 million people age 60 and over in Israel who received their fourth dose between January and March. Israel uses only the Pfizer vaccine...

"But by the eighth week, the [injection and control] groups were almost equally likely to catch COVID-19, researchers found."

https://news.yahoo.com/second-covid-boo ... 00452.html

[Service Dog]

.
What's this? ...before your YouTube video...

it Looks Like a government Public Service Announcement from the CDC... telling you to take a new Covid Medication...

but it's an ad for Pfizer.

https://media.patriots.win/post/9wZmusAwga72.gif

[Service Dog]

You know what your clients want.

True... I've read Dune. I know what that chair is for.