I was reading a negative book review of the two-volume 2014 biography of Robert A. Heinlein. The review was by a progressive literary-sjw scold type.
The review faulted the biography for "Obscuring Heinlein’s sympathy for the John Birch Society."
But, rather than "obscuring", I found the evidence to be Enlightening, Persuasive, and Exculpatory:
"The biography notes that Heinlein and his wife Virginia were briefly involved in the John Birch Society. What gets buried in the back of the book in the endnotes is the extent of Heinlein’s sympathy for the Birch Society even after he broke from it. Heinlein described the John Birch Society as a “fascist organization” but he also thought they were far preferable to liberals or moderate conservatives. “But if I am ever forced to a choice between the John Birch Society and its enemies, I know which side of the barricades I belong on,” Heinlein wrote a friend in 1961. “I’ll be on the same side the John Birch Society is on – because my enemies are on the other side.” (volume 2, p. 553 endnote 91) Surely this astonishing letter, which casts a real light on Heinlein’s politics, shouldn’t have been buried in the endnotes. It needed some prominence in the biography and some analysis."
In Current Year, I've ceased being amazed that some still seek to placate the Woke Mob coming to lynch them, rather than joining the deplorable side.
I don't expect them to become 'red pilled' in the future, either.
Brive1987 wrote: ↑
Come back Steers, all is forgiven.
It's actually not a bad idea for the Tinder/Grindr/Tik Tok crowd who are out for recreational or sport sex. Some nuance needed though.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:05 pm
by Service Dog
Chanel Contos, 23, said the idea for a “Consent App” as proposed on Thursday by NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller risked miscommunicating the nature of consent, which can be retracted at any time.
“Consent can be taken back at any time, and an app couldn’t account for that,” Ms Contos said. “It’s very reflective of how consent is seen; as a black and white thing. But consent isn’t a single sentence. It’s how people interact with each other as a whole.”
In yet another Groundhog Day for Australian women, a middle-aged white male has proposed a solution to the problem of sexual violence. No, it’s not a plan to educate men on how to treat women with respect. It’s not a strategy to reduce the sense of entitlement many men feel over women’s bodies. Oh, and it’s certainly not a pledge to believe women who allege sexual assault, or to make the process of seeking justice easier and less traumatic.
No, ladies, it’s an app.
....
It is stunning, I know, to consider that an idea proposed by a 50-something male doesn’t effectively meet the needs of women, but alas, it does not.
More worryingly, might this quest to protect women from sexual assault instead protect men from allegations of sexual assault? [[God forbid.]]
....
Furthermore, consent for sexual intercourse can be withdrawn at any time, even once sexual activity has begun. The man might do something we don’t like, or refuse to wear a condom, or make us feel unsafe – or we might simply get the ick, and change our minds. What if he doesn’t let us reach for our phone and withdraw consent? What if he just keeps going because, well, he has his “proof” that we agreed?
Finally, a consent app does absolutely nothing to address the real problem, which is men
’s attitudes to women and men’s behaviour towards women. Yet again, the esteemed Police Commissioner is putting the responsibility for sexual violence in the hands of women – quite literally, this time.
If we do need an app to protect women, then I propose one that would be far more effective. How about instead of iConsent, we have iWarn? We simply take a photo of the man we have met, or upload a photo of him from the internet, and the app tells us who he is, whether he has a history of sexual violence, and how other women rate him in terms of respect, safety and emotional intelligence.
After any contact with the man, we rate him ourselves, with a star system similar to that used by Uber or Amazon. Any man with a rating of less than three stars is flagged as Unsafe to Date, and must complete a Respect for Women program before his ratings can be reviewed.
It’s not a perfect system, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than iConsent. And if we had iWarn now, I’d be rating the Police Commissioner a mere two stars.
Not too sure about the mortuary part of it. Wouldn't that be a breach of ethics on the part of the mortician ?
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:55 am
by John D
Ron Paul at his best.... Fauci has got to go.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:44 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
John D wrote: ↑
Ron Paul at his best.... Fauci has got to go.
The Imp is our Trofim Lysenko.
It's amazing how many sheeple, who for the past year bleated, 'it's the science!', are now going around insisting that a vaccination does not protect you from catching the disease it's designed to prevent you from catching. Anyone who notes that contradicts 'the science' since 1796, is labeled an 'anti-vaxxer'!!!
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:49 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Now remember, it's homophobic/transphobic to oppose Drag Queen Story Hour.
John D wrote: ↑
Ron Paul at his best.... Fauci has got to go.
Here we go again - masks aren't only to protect the wearer.
Too bad they don't work, have never been found to work, and were never recommended by any health org until last May.
There is no solid evidence that someone who has been vaccinated is no longer infectious.
Paul was asking Fauci to provide any evidence whatsoever that someone is. All the Imp had in reply was mumbo jumbo about scary 'variants'.
Not only can some of us recall how, back in July, Fauci was extolling a vaccine with no caveats, we can remember way back before the covid panic, when vaccines actually worked. Fauci's been a bullshit artist his entire career. He made up ridiculous shit about HIV/AIDS, then backpedaled, as well.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:33 pm
by Lsuoma
You were obviously hearing a different soundtrack than I was.
John D wrote: ↑
Ron Paul at his best.... Fauci has got to go.
Here we go again - masks aren't only to protect the wearer.
Too bad they don't work, have never been found to work, and were never recommended by any health org until last May.
There is no solid evidence that someone who has been vaccinated is no longer infectious.
Paul was asking Fauci to provide any evidence whatsoever that someone is. All the Imp had in reply was mumbo jumbo about scary 'variants'.
Not only can some of us recall how, back in July, Fauci was extolling a vaccine with no caveats, we can remember way back before the covid panic, when vaccines actually worked. Fauci's been a bullshit artist his entire career. He made up ridiculous shit about HIV/AIDS, then backpedaled, as well.
As we learned from the media's misogynist downplaying of Dr. Jill Biden PhD's accomplishments, the media continues to ignore scientific expertise by refusing to acknowledge Dr. Ron Paul, MD's full titles and accomplishments.
How many ignorant MSNBC brainwashed idiots are unaware that Dr. Paul MD is actually a doctor with an MD?
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:46 pm
by John D
It doesn’t require a phd to see that Fauci is full if shit and harmful to America
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:45 pm
by KiwiInOz
John D wrote: ↑
It doesn’t require a phd to see that Fauci is full if shit and harmful to America
John D wrote: ↑
It doesn’t require a phd to see that Fauci is full if shit and harmful to America
Oh for fucks sake.
Yeah, I actually took out "FFS" from my post before submitting. Don't know why...
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:47 pm
by Really?
I am not an expert in the history of HIV/AIDS, but I am finding it fascinating that Fauci is held in such high esteem by some of the activists who were calling him an incompetent murderer 35 years ago. (You know...the ones who, sadly. didn't die of AIDS in 1992.)
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:51 pm
by Really?
In case my comment was unclear, I am sad about the activists who did die of AIDS in the 1980s and 1990s (and beyond).
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:52 pm
by Really?
I meant (those who died of AIDS in 1992 or before, etc.) I think we all understood. Sorry about the multiple posting.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:53 pm
by Keating
I saw someone - obviously an obese middle aged woman - wearing an “I love Fauci” mask at a local Coles. I really don’t get that. It’s like declaring you love Mike Pezzullo. He seems like a standard mid-wit who openly admits he’s prepared to lie to get people to do what he thinks is best. That doesn’t make what he thinks is best is wrong, or bad, but his approach seems terrible for a highly politicised environment where people are already primed to not believe government officials.
I think masks are obviously good under certain circumstances. They are definitely better at protecting others than yourself, but I’m sceptical of mandates because I think the standard person will be likely to touch them heaps, keep them in a dirty pocket or handbag and not wash them at high enough temperatures for them to be effective.
Ive said before that I’d love to hear ERV’s thoughts on these vaccines given how much her research intersected with them. While I suspect there won’t be bad side effects down the line, I think it is a problem that “science” spokespeople are saying they are completely safe when we simply can’t know that about this new technology. If there are any side effects that only manifest in a few years, the ability to have rational debates is completely destroyed because all the trust will be gone. On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts, thalidomide, the syphalis studies, etc, have largely been forgotten, so maybe I’m overestimated the blowback.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:59 pm
by Really?
Keating wrote: ↑
I saw someone - obviously an obese middle aged woman - wearing an “I love Fauci” mask at a local Coles. I really don’t get that. It’s like declaring you love Mike Pezzullo. He seems like a standard mid-wit who openly admits he’s prepared to lie to get people to do what he thinks is best. That doesn’t make what he thinks is best is wrong, or bad, but his approach seems terrible for a highly politicised environment where people are already primed to not believe government officials.
I think masks are obviously good under certain circumstances. They are definitely better at protecting others than yourself, but I’m sceptical of mandates because I think the standard person will be likely to touch them heaps, keep them in a dirty pocket or handbag and not wash them at high enough temperatures for them to be effective.
Ive said before that I’d love to hear ERV’s thoughts on these vaccines given how much her research intersected with them. While I suspect there won’t be bad side effects down the line, I think it is a problem that “science” spokespeople are saying they are completely safe when we simply can’t know that about this new technology. If there are any side effects that only manifest in a few years, the ability to have rational debates is completely destroyed because all the trust will be gone. On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts, thalidomide, the syphalis studies, etc, have largely been forgotten, so maybe I’m overestimated the blowback.
I am most concerned because even when you have the vaccine, according to Fauci, you must still wear a mask and social distance and avoid people.
So what's the point?
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:01 pm
by Brive1987
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:13 pm
by Brive1987
Keating wrote: ↑
On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts ...
I’m probably going to need a definition of “fuck up”.
Keating wrote: ↑
I saw someone - obviously an obese middle aged woman - wearing an “I love Fauci” mask at a local Coles. I really don’t get that. It’s like declaring you love Mike Pezzullo. He seems like a standard mid-wit who openly admits he’s prepared to lie to get people to do what he thinks is best. That doesn’t make what he thinks is best is wrong, or bad, but his approach seems terrible for a highly politicised environment where people are already primed to not believe government officials.
I think masks are obviously good under certain circumstances. They are definitely better at protecting others than yourself, but I’m sceptical of mandates because I think the standard person will be likely to touch them heaps, keep them in a dirty pocket or handbag and not wash them at high enough temperatures for them to be effective.
Ive said before that I’d love to hear ERV’s thoughts on these vaccines given how much her research intersected with them. While I suspect there won’t be bad side effects down the line, I think it is a problem that “science” spokespeople are saying they are completely safe when we simply can’t know that about this new technology. If there are any side effects that only manifest in a few years, the ability to have rational debates is completely destroyed because all the trust will be gone. On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts, thalidomide, the syphalis studies, etc, have largely been forgotten, so maybe I’m overestimated the blowback.
I am most concerned because even when you have the vaccine, according to Fauci, you must still wear a mask and social distance and avoid people.
So what's the point?
Preventing people who may very well still be shedding virus infecting non-vaccinated people. This is not hard, people.
Keating wrote: ↑
I saw someone - obviously an obese middle aged woman - wearing an “I love Fauci” mask at a local Coles. I really don’t get that. It’s like declaring you love Mike Pezzullo. He seems like a standard mid-wit who openly admits he’s prepared to lie to get people to do what he thinks is best. That doesn’t make what he thinks is best is wrong, or bad, but his approach seems terrible for a highly politicised environment where people are already primed to not believe government officials.
I think masks are obviously good under certain circumstances. They are definitely better at protecting others than yourself, but I’m sceptical of mandates because I think the standard person will be likely to touch them heaps, keep them in a dirty pocket or handbag and not wash them at high enough temperatures for them to be effective.
Ive said before that I’d love to hear ERV’s thoughts on these vaccines given how much her research intersected with them. While I suspect there won’t be bad side effects down the line, I think it is a problem that “science” spokespeople are saying they are completely safe when we simply can’t know that about this new technology. If there are any side effects that only manifest in a few years, the ability to have rational debates is completely destroyed because all the trust will be gone. On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts, thalidomide, the syphalis studies, etc, have largely been forgotten, so maybe I’m overestimated the blowback.
I am most concerned because even when you have the vaccine, according to Fauci, you must still wear a mask and social distance and avoid people.
So what's the point?
Preventing people who may very well still be shedding virus infecting non-vaccinated people. This is not hard, people.
Keating wrote: ↑
I saw someone - obviously an obese middle aged woman - wearing an “I love Fauci” mask at a local Coles. I really don’t get that. It’s like declaring you love Mike Pezzullo. He seems like a standard mid-wit who openly admits he’s prepared to lie to get people to do what he thinks is best. That doesn’t make what he thinks is best is wrong, or bad, but his approach seems terrible for a highly politicised environment where people are already primed to not believe government officials.
I think masks are obviously good under certain circumstances. They are definitely better at protecting others than yourself, but I’m sceptical of mandates because I think the standard person will be likely to touch them heaps, keep them in a dirty pocket or handbag and not wash them at high enough temperatures for them to be effective.
Ive said before that I’d love to hear ERV’s thoughts on these vaccines given how much her research intersected with them. While I suspect there won’t be bad side effects down the line, I think it is a problem that “science” spokespeople are saying they are completely safe when we simply can’t know that about this new technology. If there are any side effects that only manifest in a few years, the ability to have rational debates is completely destroyed because all the trust will be gone. On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts, thalidomide, the syphalis studies, etc, have largely been forgotten, so maybe I’m overestimated the blowback.
I am most concerned because even when you have the vaccine, according to Fauci, you must still wear a mask and social distance and avoid people.
So what's the point?
The point of contention, I think, is that Fauci is saying that reinfection COULD be a problem because of new variants but he doesn't know because the new variants aren't around much and Paul is saying that there is no evidence of significant reinfection so call me when these new variants actually cause a problem. Fauci needs to sit in a corner and speak only when he's spoken to. The net result of medical "scientists" driving policy is a Western World with personal freedoms and rights down the shitter, open disdain for constitutionality, backdoor socialism and authoritarian control. What started as weeks of lockdown to flatten curves has become a new reality with governments living in economics La La Land as if printing monopoly money is without consequence. Whatever the dangers of Covid it's been badly abused by people with an agenda which I think is far more of a danger than the disease itself.
Having said all that, Rand Paul needs to STFU with his Palinesque "I kid you not" bullshit about research funding. He's been bitching about a cocaine study using quails as if it were some loony endeavour on a par with Feminist Geology. If he's a genuine MD then he's a bit of an ignorant one.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:08 am
by Service Dog
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
Rand Paul needs to STFU with his Palinesque "I kid you not" bullshit about research funding. He's been bitching about a cocaine study using quails as if it were some loony endeavour on a par with Feminist Geology. If he's a genuine MD then he's a bit of an ignorant one.
“$356,000 was spent of your money studying whether or not Japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine,” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) in a speech on the Senate Floor.
According to scientists, the effects of drugs like cocaine have similar brain effects in quails as in humans. The study looked at behavior patterns while on the drug and found “repeated exposure to cocaine during sexual activity may increase sexual motivation which may, in turn, may lead to high risk sexual activities.”
It’s a conclusion Sen. Paul calls predictable.
“Common sense would have told us one that cocaine is probably not good for you and that cocaine might make you do things that you wouldn’t have done otherwise had you not been on cocaine,” he said in a recent interview.
....
For Sen. Paul and others on Capitol Hill who complain the government wastes taxpayer money and in turn has to then borrow from countries like China, it’s an expense that’s simply not necessary right now.
“When the government starts running a surplus I’ll quit complaining so much,” he said."
So... one obvious point. It is pretty retarded to think we should defer to the opinions of the chief maskerbator Dr. Fauci just because he has a phd. Sure... a phd has some meaning... but it provides no proof that an individual is correct on any particular topic. So, really, saying Ron Paul should just shut up because he is not a doctor is really fucking stupid. It is not a argument. So, whoever went down this road should be embarrassed. Seriously.
I have so many broken bull-shit meters that I have a repair shop in my basement. The fucking thing pegs at 11 every fucking day over the last year.
Ron Paul is calling out obvious bull shit. I suspect his bull-shit meter is pegged at 11 right now as well.
I understand that my fellow citizens are mostly fucking stupid. Yep.... I have to live next to them. Sometimes things go better when you lie to idiots. Fictions put out by the government, or doctors, or business, sometimes achieve a greater good. Most of my fellow citizens need this kind of thing. But, someone has to keep the lies in check. We have to make sure the lies are really for the greater good.
Finally, I understand that Fauci is trying to do the right thing by lying all the time. But, we should feel free to call him out on it when he fails. He lied about masks because he wanted to prioritize masks for health workers. I think this was an evil lie. The right approach would have been to tell people to pitch in... to join together to make masks and provide them for everyone. This behavior did happen eventually.... but only because people decided to help. Fauci should have been able to lead people to improve. Instead, he acts like the dictator of a pool of ants. That we are the ants and we have no rights to the truth. His only goal is to manage the message so he can force certain behaviors through fear. The real disgrace is that Fauci NEVER thinks about the suicides, depression, addiction... he acts like these things mean nothing. His policy recommendations are from a view that only the virology matters. We need to check this mother fucker. He is wrong.
And I know Ron Paul is a Retired doc himself.... again.... not that that means anything in particular.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:31 am
by John D
and a personal update.... if anyone gives a shit. Skip if you want. My view of things is really pretty good right now. Funny how you can change with time. My oldest daughter has not contacted my wife or I for 6 months. Nothing. No email or phone call. This has gone on so long now that it doesn't really hurt me anymore. Maybe resignation is all we can do in some cases. My wife and I are both just accepting of her abuse of us and don't really have anything left to do. Next step is hers.
My wife had all of her top teeth removed on Monday.... 9 teeth. Nothing makes you feel old like having a spouse with no teeth. Well... she still has all her natural bottom teeth. They put ground up bone material from dead people into the open sockets to try to regrow her bone. In six months they will put in posts in her jaw.... and the post will hold a denture. Right now she can't eat solid food. Soup for dinner tonight... and tomorrow... and...
My wife and I are getting along pretty well all things considered. She has been more kind lately which is what I need. I get very resentful when she is a bitch... since I basically do everything... all the chores.... all the work... all the cooking. Everything. All I ask is that you don't act like a total bitch! Haha.
Work is crazy busy but super fun.
Here is a good film for those who need to destroy Nazi tanks.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:54 am
by John D
and it is amazing they hit anything at all.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:53 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
John D wrote: ↑
and it is amazing they hit anything at all.
Pretty much, they didn't.
Schweinfurt-Regensburg almost 400 B-17s -- so almost 4,000 MGs firing hundreds of rounds each -- shot down a grand total of two dozen German fighters out of c. 400 [credited with about 300 to boost morale]. In return 4 in 10 bombers were hit, 60 shot down, another two dozen written off.
That movie spent about two seconds on 12 O'Clock attacks, which were the initial attack for every LW fighter -- they'd follow up with beam attacks as they presented themselves -- making the rest of the tutorial of minimal value. In practice, the bomber gunners just hurled a ton o' lead into the sky, regardless of aim or range.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:46 pm
by AndrewV69
Sounds like Fauchi is advocating wearing masks because he does not believe that the current vaccine(s) protects against variants.
His problem is that he has lied to us in the past (about masks for example) so if people are skeptical now, well should he be surprised?
Anywho,
Variants that appear to be rapidly circulating are B.1.1.7, P.1, B.1.351 etc. etc. etc.
(I was going to provide links but WTF? You can easily find them yourselves)
Viruses are constantly mutating, and numerous variants have emerged. Health officials are concerned about the United Kingdom, South Africa and Brazil variants because researchers believe they may spread more easily.
Three COVID-19 variants, including the variant first identified in the United Kingdom and the variant first identified in South Africa, have been detected in Massachusetts.
B.1.1.7. is a mutated strain of COVID-19 first discovered in the U.K. that is much more infectious
At least eight U.S. states and 33 countries have identified the new variant, known as B.1.1.7. Several nations have also identified an additional variant, first identified in South Africa, that also appears to infect people more easily.
OK Fine ... link to CDC reports (if you still trust them after their botched first response) you can start here :
Keating wrote: ↑
I saw someone - obviously an obese middle aged woman - wearing an “I love Fauci” mask at a local Coles. I really don’t get that. It’s like declaring you love Mike Pezzullo. He seems like a standard mid-wit who openly admits he’s prepared to lie to get people to do what he thinks is best. That doesn’t make what he thinks is best is wrong, or bad, but his approach seems terrible for a highly politicised environment where people are already primed to not believe government officials.
I think masks are obviously good under certain circumstances. They are definitely better at protecting others than yourself, but I’m sceptical of mandates because I think the standard person will be likely to touch them heaps, keep them in a dirty pocket or handbag and not wash them at high enough temperatures for them to be effective.
Ive said before that I’d love to hear ERV’s thoughts on these vaccines given how much her research intersected with them. While I suspect there won’t be bad side effects down the line, I think it is a problem that “science” spokespeople are saying they are completely safe when we simply can’t know that about this new technology. If there are any side effects that only manifest in a few years, the ability to have rational debates is completely destroyed because all the trust will be gone. On the other hand, past “science” fuck ups, like Brive’s diet posts, thalidomide, the syphalis studies, etc, have largely been forgotten, so maybe I’m overestimated the blowback.
I am most concerned because even when you have the vaccine, according to Fauci, you must still wear a mask and social distance and avoid people.
So what's the point?
Preventing people who may very well still be shedding virus infecting non-vaccinated people. This is not hard, people.
Which is one reason I will continue to wear a mask.
But do not expect me to quarrel with people who do not. Even if they are coughing (true story).
I will just leave the general area ASAP (another true story).
We have plenty of Karens willing and able and on the job. No?
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
Rand Paul needs to STFU with his Palinesque "I kid you not" bullshit about research funding. He's been bitching about a cocaine study using quails as if it were some loony endeavour on a par with Feminist Geology. If he's a genuine MD then he's a bit of an ignorant one.
“$356,000 was spent of your money studying whether or not Japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine,” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) in a speech on the Senate Floor.
According to scientists, the effects of drugs like cocaine have similar brain effects in quails as in humans. The study looked at behavior patterns while on the drug and found “repeated exposure to cocaine during sexual activity may increase sexual motivation which may, in turn, may lead to high risk sexual activities.”
It’s a conclusion Sen. Paul calls predictable.
“Common sense would have told us one that cocaine is probably not good for you and that cocaine might make you do things that you wouldn’t have done otherwise had you not been on cocaine,” he said in a recent interview.
....
For Sen. Paul and others on Capitol Hill who complain the government wastes taxpayer money and in turn has to then borrow from countries like China, it’s an expense that’s simply not necessary right now.
“When the government starts running a surplus I’ll quit complaining so much,” he said."
If the US Government runs a surplus it is taking more money out of the economy than it is spending into it. The surplus is an accounting artefact. It has no bearing on the capacity of the US Government to buy goods and services with US currency. The surplus is not money in the bank.
If Rand Paul is serious, then the low hanging fruit is to get rid of all the tax breaks for billionaires, regulate the profit margins on private health care, and cut defense spending to parity, say, with China or Russia.
But he's not serious and really just wants an excuse to continue kicking the least well off in US society and pretending to care about research topics.
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
Rand Paul needs to STFU with his Palinesque "I kid you not" bullshit about research funding. He's been bitching about a cocaine study using quails as if it were some loony endeavour on a par with Feminist Geology. If he's a genuine MD then he's a bit of an ignorant one.
“$356,000 was spent of your money studying whether or not Japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine,” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) in a speech on the Senate Floor.
According to scientists, the effects of drugs like cocaine have similar brain effects in quails as in humans. The study looked at behavior patterns while on the drug and found “repeated exposure to cocaine during sexual activity may increase sexual motivation which may, in turn, may lead to high risk sexual activities.”
It’s a conclusion Sen. Paul calls predictable.
“Common sense would have told us one that cocaine is probably not good for you and that cocaine might make you do things that you wouldn’t have done otherwise had you not been on cocaine,” he said in a recent interview.
....
For Sen. Paul and others on Capitol Hill who complain the government wastes taxpayer money and in turn has to then borrow from countries like China, it’s an expense that’s simply not necessary right now.
“When the government starts running a surplus I’ll quit complaining so much,” he said."
The study was about a lot more than just determining whether or not cocaine affects promiscuity. It is important for public policy to understand the mechanisms involved, which aspects of sexual behaviour are affected, how much of the effect is down to the innate susceptibilities of addicts and what biological changes continue to affect the behaviour of recovered/recovering addicts. Paul should have dug a little deeper before giving his opinion.
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
Rand Paul needs to STFU with his Palinesque "I kid you not" bullshit about research funding. He's been bitching about a cocaine study using quails as if it were some loony endeavour on a par with Feminist Geology. If he's a genuine MD then he's a bit of an ignorant one.
“$356,000 was spent of your money studying whether or not Japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine,” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) in a speech on the Senate Floor.
According to scientists, the effects of drugs like cocaine have similar brain effects in quails as in humans. The study looked at behavior patterns while on the drug and found “repeated exposure to cocaine during sexual activity may increase sexual motivation which may, in turn, may lead to high risk sexual activities.”
It’s a conclusion Sen. Paul calls predictable.
“Common sense would have told us one that cocaine is probably not good for you and that cocaine might make you do things that you wouldn’t have done otherwise had you not been on cocaine,” he said in a recent interview.
....
For Sen. Paul and others on Capitol Hill who complain the government wastes taxpayer money and in turn has to then borrow from countries like China, it’s an expense that’s simply not necessary right now.
“When the government starts running a surplus I’ll quit complaining so much,” he said."
The study was about a lot more than just determining whether or not cocaine affects promiscuity. It is important for public policy to understand the mechanisms involved, which aspects of sexual behaviour are affected, how much of the effect is down to the innate susceptibilities of addicts and what biological changes continue to affect the behaviour of recovered/recovering addicts. Paul should have dug a little deeper before giving his opinion.
Fancy that. A politician dog whistling.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:51 pm
by John D
No skin off my teeth in any case. I work from home and make enough money to store up for retirement. Lockdowns don't hurt me at all.
I guess, if our politicians want to destroy the earning potential for the lower middle class and to destroy the psychology of school kids, it is not a problem for me. Everyone can just fuck off.
What I really want is to find an original WWII M1 Carbine in premium condition. Reach out if you know where I can find one.
Preventing people who may very well still be shedding virus infecting non-vaccinated people. This is not hard, people.
Which is one reason I will continue to wear a mask.
But do not expect me to quarrel with people who do not. Even if they are coughing (true story).
I will just leave the general area ASAP (another true story).
We have plenty of Karens willing and able and on the job. No?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Same here. TBH, the pandemic has actually been good to us - Mrs L and I spent eight months together 24x7 last year, and we found it really strengthened our relationship.
Other benefits? Reduced expenditure - we are fortunate that we have well paid jobs, and unless we buy a new car every couple of months we couldn't run out of cash.
Me, no commute, for the first time in 35 years. Amazing - extra two hours a day to do active stuff (I used to read on the bus) but my cooking has improved and burgeoned.
Other stuff? No fucking crowds anywhere I go.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:14 pm
by Lsuoma
John D wrote: ↑
No skin off my teeth in any case. I work from home and make enough money to store up for retirement. Lockdowns don't hurt me at all.
I guess, if our politicians want to destroy the earning potential for the lower middle class and to destroy the psychology of school kids, it is not a problem for me. Everyone can just fuck off.
What I really want is to find an original WWII M1 Carbine in premium condition. Reach out if you know where I can find one.
Another way of saying what I said in my immediately preceding post. Except I'm looking for a fine/fine to near fine/near fine first of Sagittarius Rising by Lewis.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:16 pm
by Lsuoma
Although I'd like to grab ahold of a pristine SMLE 303.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:53 pm
by mordacious1
John D wrote: ↑
No skin off my teeth in any case. I work from home and make enough money to store up for retirement. Lockdowns don't hurt me at all.
I guess, if our politicians want to destroy the earning potential for the lower middle class and to destroy the psychology of school kids, it is not a problem for me. Everyone can just fuck off.
What I really want is to find an original WWII M1 Carbine in premium condition. Reach out if you know where I can find one.
Until COVID lockdowns, CMP Online sales was a good place to look, they are out of stock on most things for now, but will probably start restocking soon. Their auction site has some Garands, but no carbines currently. Keep checking, things change: https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/catalog.a ... =M1-Garand
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:24 pm
by Service Dog
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
The study was about a lot more than just determining whether or not cocaine affects promiscuity.
That's what Dr. Paul is saying: the study conclusively showed that giving human researchers govt money to get birds high on coke & watch them fuck...
conditions the researchers to seek more govt money to watch more cokehead birds fuck.
It's important for public policy to understand the mechanisms involved.
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
The study was about a lot more than just determining whether or not cocaine affects promiscuity.
That's what Dr. Paul is saying: the study conclusively showed that giving human researchers govt money to get birds high on coke & watch them fuck...
conditions the researchers to seek more govt money to watch more cokehead birds fuck.
It's important for public policy to understand the mechanisms involved.
TBF they worked a little bit harder than that. After the bird fucking show they left their recliners and did sciencey stuff like examining bird brains for physiological effects. Turns out that you actually need to know that kind of thing if you are going to stop ex-addicts from popping out unwanted sprogs and serial fucking HIV carriers. You could just put up anti-fucking posters, send miscreants to church and do a bit of scolding I suppose.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:11 am
by Service Dog
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
After the bird fucking show they left their recliners and did sciencey stuff like examining bird brains for physiological effects.
No, they didn't. They just watched the bird show & wrote-up their results. They didn't directly examine the bird brains.
They got the birds high & lured the birds into sex.
Then, later, they took half the birds and got them high & offered them sex again.
And kept half the birds sober & offered them sex again.
They observed that the birds who got high twice were easier to lure into sex again, than the ones who sobered-up.
The paper admitted that this experiment had been done many times previously with many drugs, using many animals. It had even been done with japanese quail before, using other drugs. The paper also admitted that it is already known that humans who mix sex and cocaine tend-to associate the the two things... becoming less inhibited about having sex, when they use cocaine.
The only way this study translated into improving public policy, was Rand Paul using it to point-out the shitty cost/benefit ratio.
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:31 am
by Service Dog
Lsuoma wrote: ↑
Here we go again - masks aren't only to protect the wearer. There is no solid evidence that someone who has been vaccinated is no longer infectious.
Get rid of all your pillows. There's no solid evidence that breathing-on your pillow all night ISN'T the breeding-ground of new variants.
And chop off one of your hands. There's no solid evidence that hand washing ISN'T enough.
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
After the bird fucking show they left their recliners and did sciencey stuff like examining bird brains for physiological effects.
No, they didn't. They just watched the bird show & wrote-up their results. They didn't directly examine the bird brains.
They got the birds high & lured the birds into sex.
Then, later, they took half the birds and got them high & offered them sex again.
And kept half the birds sober & offered them sex again.
They observed that the birds who got high twice were easier to lure into sex again, than the ones who sobered-up.
The paper admitted that this experiment had been done many times previously with many drugs, using many animals. It had even been done with japanese quail before, using other drugs. The paper also admitted that it is already known that humans who mix sex and cocaine tend-to associate the the two things... becoming less inhibited about having sex, when they use cocaine.
The only way this study translated into improving public policy, was Rand Paul using it to point-out the shitty cost/benefit ratio.
You are correct that this study didn't look at brains, I mixed it up with something else I read. What they did was examine the response to sexual stimuli of birds repeatedly exposed to saline and cocaine, then repeat the experiment after a break with half of the birds switched from cocaine to saline and vice versa. The experiment showed conditioning in the following order of magnitude: coc-coc, sal-sal, coc-sal, sal-coc.
The conclusion includes this:
The current study is the first to demonstrate cocaine-induced state-dependent learning in a sexual behavior paradigm.
I'm not going to question that nor am I going to question the utility of the study given that I don't know the first thing about the current state of knowledge on the subject, it's confidence or how many corroborative studies are required before something can be concluded with any certainty.
How exactly does one judge the shitty cost-benefit ratio?
Lsuoma wrote: ↑
Here we go again - masks aren't only to protect the wearer. There is no solid evidence that someone who has been vaccinated is no longer infectious.
Get rid of all your pillows. There's no solid evidence that breathing-on your pillow all night ISN'T the breeding-ground of new variants.
And chop off one of your hands. There's no solid evidence that hand washing ISN'T enough.
Now do the hokey-pokey, and spin yourself about.
That's what it's all about.
80/20
Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:38 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Hasbro to update the "Community Chest" cards in Monopoly to reflect the new, woke meaning of 'community:
