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Hunt wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Gun culture in the USA.
This won’t last long on Twitter. Very Christchurch-esque
Sad and utterly horrendous. In a way, it would be better to leave it up if it will save lives, but I can see why they'll take it down.
This is obviously a terrible crime. The brother of a good friend of mine had a similar thing happen. He was making noise in his driveway with his motorcycle. His neighbor told him to stop intentionally making so much noise. Rather than quiet down he decide to make even more noise with his bike. So, the neighbor loses his shit, gets a shot gun and blows a hole in his belly. Now he gets to go through life with no intestines. Horrible all around

But... if the crime happened with the bad guy using a knife.... well... you wouldn't call it "knife culture". It would be a knife attack... it would not be gun culture.

What is meant by "gun culture"? Whatever gun culture is I can tell you that it is not about murdering your neighbors. My gun ownership is about responsibility and protection. It is a duty. This is closer to what gun culture is in America.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:15 pm
Feeling very 1936 here.

It was predicted that China would be testing Biden in short order and the predictions were correct. Air incursions over Taiwan and now this. They'll most likely see just how much they can get away with in the next few years.

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Hunt wrote: The article says no such thing. It says the call went out to "activists charged with the protest strategy" (ACWTPS). ....
There is just about as much connection between ACWTPS and Antifa as there is between ACWTPS and Proud Boys.
Why on earth did you make up that ACWTPS acronym? The activists you're describing already have a name. They named themselves Protect The Results:



The landing page at ProtectTheResults.com consisted of a countdown-clock and a text-message sign-up field. They explicitly said they were recruiting any and everyone who signed up, to all simultaneously flood the streets in protest, the moment a text message told them to. The TIME article says the decision whether to send that text came from the "secret" "shadow" "conspiracy".



https://archive.is/I0n48/fa458e3262e039 ... 96ff03.png
ProtectTheResults.com also featured a "Partners" page listing logos their member organizations, which include EXTINCTION REBELLION whose co-founder described their EXTINCTION REBELLION's tactics as "letters, emailing, marches don’t work. You need about 400 people to go to prison. About two to three thousand people to be arrested."



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ProtectTheResults.com featured the logo of SHUTDOWN D.C., a name which surely must trigger AOC to pee her raped pussy.

SHUTDOWNDC.org is still up, it says they use "direct action" and "so this will (probably) not be the time we need to create disruption to stop a coup - yet. But we’ll be in a good place to respond to whatever might happen." "This is a very fluid time and logistics could change so please make sure to text DEMOCRACY to 88202 for the latest updates."



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Oh look, ProtectTheResults also features the logo of OUR REVOLUTION. Nice name. I see Obama-era DNC deputy director and ANTIFA Handbook salesman Keith Ellison is involved with them.



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Mostly Peaceful.

Hunt wrote: But let's just say for the sake of argument that Antifa was subject to the directives of a bipartisan, activist effort to ensure a fair election. What does this tell you about Antifa, the shadowy anarchist organization bent on the overthrow of American democracy?
It tells you the millions of MAGA hat wearing, Wal-mart shopping Trump supporters' suspicions are correct: The Republican Party bigwigs and the FBI deep state and Corporate Fatcats and Big Tech and FAKE NEWS conspired with both the Democratic Party Leadership and the radical ARSON LOOT RIOT left-- to disenfranchise Trump voters.

The so-called 'Incitement' and 'Insurrection' on Jan. 6 is dwarfed by the massive co-ordinated Gun To The Head of democracy, which TIME blithely brags about.

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Background: In 2019 Portland formed the Gun Violence Reduction Team -- A dedicated group of officers and detectives who respond to and investigate all shootings. The thinking was that the majority of shootings are not one-off events, but repeated acts by the same old malicous actors (aka gangs). Efficient to have officers responding to these shootings who are familiar with the players, the turfs, the grudges, etc.

Since gangs in the area have a higher average melanin level than the average Portland resident this is rascist. As part of White Guilt 2020 this team was disbanded.

Shootings were on the rising at that point and continued their rapid climb to levels not seen since the 80s and early 90s.

The new Portland Police Chief now wants to form a specialized team to respond to gun violence to try to stem this tide. You can imagine what the local SJW contingent thinks of this.

Letter to the editor in the local paper made an interesting point in opposition to the plan:
If it had been a viable solution, gun violence would have been reduced. A sustained solution would mean gun violence would still be reduced now, after the team was gone.
Really? You are faulting a team for not being effective after the team was disbanded? Those are some very high expectations for efficacy. Not sure she would have approved of the police tactics necessary for persistent suppression of Portland violence. Too lazy to drag in a picture of Dredd so just use your imaginations.

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Hunt wrote: Very quickly:
FBI says no.
Every election has anomalies. The courts have validated the results.
Ensuring the safety of legislators doesn't mean we're descending into Nazi Germany.
I could make a joke here but since he was a billionaire, and since a billion dollars pays for a lot of coverup...Ok. You still need evidence.
Just as long as its glycemic index is under 35.
The FBI has become politicized. cf. Comey, Strzok & Page.

The anomolies were unprecedented in scope. The courts are politicized.

Just a hunch, but M.O.M.

Don't you go all Brive on me now.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Example, a high school friend I keep tabs on lists his pronouns prominently on his Twitter page. We were essentially a single merged intellectual unit at one point. I have stayed the same; the world has gone crazy around me.
Coincidentally, below, a FB exchange that took place yesterday and this morning. To put in context, this was one of my closest friends growing up. He had a cool tree house. His mom and my parents were close friends and active together in Dem politics. I once was a delegate with her at the Dem state convention in Hartford. [Same venue where I later saw a kick-ass Pretenders show.]. His stepdad was mayor of our city, and I was the paid headquarters manager for his reelection campaign.

He reposted about a tweet "destroying" the opposition to transgender competing in girls sports.

Me:
Sorry. One vapid tweet, not even good enough to be wrong, does not negate the fact that the word "sex" in Title IX meant 'sex', much less the evolutionary reality of profound sexual dimorphism in Homo sapiens.
Him:
Matt Cavanaugh feeling a bit triggered there? I must say your response ring pretty hollow coming from someone who’s never been remotely competitive at any sport.
[Lulz: While he was in AV, I was on Varsity.]


Me:
It's sad your immediate response was an ad hominem. You should reflect on that and consider just who's the triggered one here.
Him:
Matt Cavanaugh my immediate response was laughter, followed by disappointment. That seems to be par for the course where your comments are concerned. Maybe you should go back to being bitter and wrong quietly rather than inflicting yourself on the rest of the world.
Me:
You're dead to me.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: "...never been remotely competitive at any sport."
'If only I'd competed against girls!'

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Hunt wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:49 pm
This is exactly why people dismiss your list of assertions, some of which I have actually thought about ("tried on") ...briefly.

Very quickly:
FBI says no.
Every election has anomalies. The courts have validated the results.
Ensuring the safety of legislators doesn't mean we're descending into Nazi Germany.
I could make a joke here but since he was a billionaire, and since a billion dollars pays for a lot of coverup...Ok. You still need evidence.
Just as long as its glycemic index is under 35.
Perhaps if you tried them on for a bit longer than "briefly" you might be a bit more open to the ideas.

To come to any kind of sensible conclusion you would need to look at the history of the court system, it's politicisation and tendency toward partisan rulings and the means they have of dodging responsibility. You would need to look at a breakdown of the results in the swing states by demographic against national results. You would need to look at the legal efforts to relax requirements on postal votes, the holes in chain of custody and on the constitutionality of the process in some states and the litigation around that. You would need to look at very suspiciously low signature rejection rates and the lack of oversight in the postal vote counting process. This is before looking at the unmonitored late night counts and the shenanigans to remove observers. How can you take courts seriously when they can dismiss legal challenges on the grounds that the right to observe doesn't mean the right to be close enough to actually see anything on a ballot? On top of that there are hundreds, if not thousands of affidavits of witnesses who claim to have observed fraud, been turned away because a vote was cast in their name or didn't vote yet their vote has been counted. You have organisations like the Voter Integrity Project who have investigated the pattern of reductions in Trump's vote during the counting process, which they say is very anomalous, and have never had any kind of explanation given. None of this has been honestly addressed any more than Hunter's laptop has been "debunked". I realise that you will probably do nothing beyond taking a cursory look ready to dismiss everything with the media narrative pinging around in the background.

Arizona has decided to get to the bottom of the issue to settle the question in Maricopa County and surprise surprise, the Board of Supervisors are hanging onto the evidence with a deathgrip. You don't think it is suspicious that with such a hotly contested election the contested districts aren't willing to provide the ballots and machinery to prove the validity of the result?

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John D wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Gun culture in the USA.
But... if the crime happened with the bad guy using a knife.... well... you wouldn't call it "knife culture". It would be a knife attack... it would not be gun culture.

What is meant by "gun culture"? Whatever gun culture is I can tell you that it is not about murdering your neighbors. My gun ownership is about responsibility and protection. It is a duty. This is closer to what gun culture is in America.
Exactly. That's 'Crazy Person Culture.'

My experience of gun culture is shooting targets with my neighbor, talking functionality, safety, and self-defense wisdom with friends over dinner, or my GF attending her monthly A Girl and A Gun meeting tomorrow.

Very Christchurch-esque
Speaking of that Antipodal Socialist Utopia...

After its first gun confiscation failed to have any effect on crime or violence, NZ's second, more sweeping gun grab is about to go into effect. Newly banned are:

- pistol caliber carbines/'long' pistols
- semi-automatic long guns capable of taking detachable magazines of greater than 10 round capacity
- shotguns with detachable magazines [which suck, anyway]
- shotguns with fixed mag tubes of greater than 5 shell capacity
- any magazine of greater than 10 round capacity for any firearm

And when this fails to reduce crime or violence, in a few years they'll come after handguns, break-action shotguns, lever actions, and rimfire rifles. Better start stockpiling Maori Wahaika now.

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Service Dog wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: "...never been remotely competitive at any sport."
'If only I'd competed against girls!'
Good one! But l'esprit de l'escalier -- I've already unfriended him. Did a spontaneous bit of a purge, in fact, of my woke, neo-fascist FB friends. Trying to engage with their venom and irrationality was not conducive to me staying centered.

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Is the failure of Tweets to insert into comments somehow cosmically related to Jack Dorsey's Hypospadias?

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John D wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:02 am
Hunt wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Gun culture in the USA.
This won’t last long on Twitter. Very Christchurch-esque
Sad and utterly horrendous. In a way, it would be better to leave it up if it will save lives, but I can see why they'll take it down.
This is obviously a terrible crime. The brother of a good friend of mine had a similar thing happen. He was making noise in his driveway with his motorcycle. His neighbor told him to stop intentionally making so much noise. Rather than quiet down he decide to make even more noise with his bike. So, the neighbor loses his shit, gets a shot gun and blows a hole in his belly. Now he gets to go through life with no intestines. Horrible all around

But... if the crime happened with the bad guy using a knife.... well... you wouldn't call it "knife culture". It would be a knife attack... it would not be gun culture.

What is meant by "gun culture"? Whatever gun culture is I can tell you that it is not about murdering your neighbors. My gun ownership is about responsibility and protection. It is a duty. This is closer to what gun culture is in America.
Without getting into the pros and cons of gun ownership, pulling a trigger from a distance and getting close enough to plunge in a knife are different things altogether. Running away from a knife is also considerably easier than outrunning a bullet.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: pulling a trigger from a distance and getting close enough to plunge in a knife are different things altogether. Running away from a knife is also considerably easier than outrunning a bullet.
Generally true, but the Snow Shovel Shoot-out is more of a counter-example. Not much 'outrunning' on display.
Looks like he coulda stabbed 'em with a switchblade comb, come back with a sword.
It's only a flesh wound!

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That time Jussie-Joe Biden took a bullet for Mandela...

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/0 ... previously

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The coordinated conspiracy against millions of law-abiding Trump voters continues:

In response to poll watchers' sworn affidavits about a late-night van delivery of ballots in Detroit, journalist Cassandra Fairbanks requested security video from the location. The security video footage was finally released to Fairbanks.

watch here:
https://rumble.com/embed/vayy5f/?pub=4

Hours after she posted the video, Twitter today suspended Fairbanks' account.

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In case anyone was wondering what happened to Barry after "Auf Wiedersehen, Pet "


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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
John D wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:02 am
Hunt wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Gun culture in the USA.
This won’t last long on Twitter. Very Christchurch-esque
Sad and utterly horrendous. In a way, it would be better to leave it up if it will save lives, but I can see why they'll take it down.
This is obviously a terrible crime. The brother of a good friend of mine had a similar thing happen. He was making noise in his driveway with his motorcycle. His neighbor told him to stop intentionally making so much noise. Rather than quiet down he decide to make even more noise with his bike. So, the neighbor loses his shit, gets a shot gun and blows a hole in his belly. Now he gets to go through life with no intestines. Horrible all around

But... if the crime happened with the bad guy using a knife.... well... you wouldn't call it "knife culture". It would be a knife attack... it would not be gun culture.

What is meant by "gun culture"? Whatever gun culture is I can tell you that it is not about murdering your neighbors. My gun ownership is about responsibility and protection. It is a duty. This is closer to what gun culture is in America.
Without getting into the pros and cons of gun ownership, pulling a trigger from a distance and getting close enough to plunge in a knife are different things altogether. Running away from a knife is also considerably easier than outrunning a bullet.
I am not stupid enough to think that knives are as deadly as guns. I just think that the "gun culture" description is not very useful. Gun culture in America is about the safe use of guns.... the understanding of guns... the proper use of guns in self defense. I didn't ask to live in a country with 300 million guns.... but I am here. Taking away gun rights from lawful "gun culture" citizens is not helpful. Insulting "gun culture" is not useful or correct.

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One adjective I wouldn't use to describe anybody in that video: cultured.

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Service Dog wrote: Why on earth did you make up that ACWTPS acronym? The activists you're describing already have a name. They named themselves Protect The Results:
You're right, I should have used Protect the Results. I just didn't want to type "activists charged with the protest strategy". There you made me type it again. Damn you.
Service Dog wrote: It tells you the millions of MAGA hat wearing, Wal-mart shopping Trump supporters' suspicions are correct: The Republican Party bigwigs and the FBI deep state and Corporate Fatcats and Big Tech and FAKE NEWS conspired with both the Democratic Party Leadership and the radical ARSON LOOT RIOT left-- to disenfranchise Trump voters.
Oh Ngo you didn't. I was thinking more along the lines of: "Suddenly I realize that Antifa can't possibly the nefarious organization that Ngo makes them out to be. Yeah, it's limited to an ideology, like other protest movements. How silly I've been.......Naaaaaaaaaa."

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John D wrote: What is meant by "gun culture"? Whatever gun culture is I can tell you that it is not about murdering your neighbors. My gun ownership is about responsibility and protection. It is a duty. This is closer to what gun culture is in America.
It doesn't really matter what it's "supposed" to be. What matters is what it is, how it manifests in reality. I think everyone has a piece of the truth. Guns don't kill people by themselves. People kill people. On the other hand, guns are often instrumental in the process.

I'm happy to live in a state with pretty stringent laws. Basically you can't even drive a gun anywhere unless you're going to a range. Good luck getting a concealed permit. Were I more into guns maybe I'd consider that a pain in the ass.

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Hunt wrote: You're right, I should have used Protect the Results. I just didn't want to type "activists charged with the protest strategy". There you made me type it again. Damn you.

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Service Dog wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: pulling a trigger from a distance and getting close enough to plunge in a knife are different things altogether. Running away from a knife is also considerably easier than outrunning a bullet.
Generally true, but the Snow Shovel Shoot-out is more of a counter-example. Not much 'outrunning' on display.
Looks like he coulda stabbed 'em with a switchblade comb, come back with a sword.
It's only a flesh wound!
Never bring an ice scraper to a gun fight.

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Hunt wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:16 am
I'm just going to float this idea out here, since I know there are more than a couple adherents. Maybe...just maybe....Andrew Ngo is a.....
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crackpot.

Let's take this slowly. I'm going to talk you down from this ledge real easy. I was raise in the SF Bay area. I've known more than a few families of Vietnamese immigrants. They are not known for their sound political judgements. His dad was a police officer. He's gay...not saying there's anything wrong with it..., but adds another stress factor.

He's sporting an English accent, while being raised in Oregon. Wrong, no, weird, maybe.

He's ambitious, not early successful, open to the blandishments of anyone or anything that might lead to something. Somewhat like another person we know of roughly the same age with opposite affiliation. Reb*cc* W*a#son.
Does he fabricate the videos or mug shots he sends around?

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Service Dog wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:24 pm
Hunt wrote: I don't know whether he started it after moving to England


It's cute to see Hunt pretend that his Free Speech is being snubbed here, by other users using their free speech to disagree.

Three weeks Sarah Jeong of the New York Times editorial board publicly called Ngo "a very real threat to our neighbors" who should be banned from Twitter. https://thepostmillennial.com/nyt-journ ... f-andy-ngo
Sarah Jeong? The unabashed and virulent racist?

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And the Time article is damning. The Democrats are bragging about doing EXACTLY what they're banning people from Twitter for speaking out about.

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I do not concur with her views on abortion or religion, but share her defense of our constitutional liberties, and second her denouncement of the divisive, caustic rhetoric now so prevalent. I especially appreciate her poise and moxie, including her bitch-slapping of the feckless, partisan press. The neo-fascist Left have grossly underestimated this feisty woman who they sought to pillory and arrogantly imagined as dumb.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?508695-1/ ... conference



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Hunt wrote: Antifa can't possibly the nefarious organization that Ngo makes them out to be. Yeah, it's limited to an ideology, like other protest movements.
On Wednesday, you said: "Antifa has no overt connection to the Democratic party."

On Thursday, TIME published a report, in which a (massive, well-financed, previously-covert) connection between Antifa and the Democratic Party was made overt. TIME's source was the Democratic Party's own managers, in charge of that connection-endeavor.

On Friday, you point to the connection between the Democratic Party and Antifa as evidence that Antifa is not a dangerous, organized network, as claimed by Andy Ngo. But rather just-another "protest movement" "limited to an ideology".

But nothing-about the Dem-Antifa connection supports your Friday opinion. If the Dems-- as they claim-- can give the order to Antifa to "stand down", and Antifa obeys... that matches Andy Ngo's assertion that Antifa is a coordinated network, with orders given thru a command structure. It does not match with you and Joe Biden being correct-- that Antifa is merely an un-organized 'movement' of protesters who share only an ideology. "Antifa is an idea." If that were true, by what means and authority would the Dems have engineered an effective 'stand down' from Antifa-- on the dates the Dems claim to have done so: Election Time nationwide, & circa Jan. 6 in DC ?

Further, I see nothing about Antifa agreeing to obey the Dems' 'stand down' order on those dates-- which precludes Antifa from being an organized-organization: An organization which is also capable of disregarding the Dems, should Antifa decide they prefer massive, violent mayhem-- to cooperating with the Dems.

I can think of many real world cases-- of 'strange bedfellows'-- privateer pirates whose lawless activities were sanctioned/ as long as they confined attacks to sanctioned targets. US slave states' arrangements with wild red injuns, to pay a bounty for the scalps of escaped slaves. The CIA arming mujahideen to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. US-backed strongmen like Saddam Hussain. All of these alliances-of-convenience could-and-did evaporate when the henchmen decided they'd rather not obey anymore.

Occam's Razor says your absurd-sounding claims are simply absurd. Can you offer anything more persuasive than telling-us Andy Ngo is gay, vietnamese, and talks funny?

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At its simplest, American gun culture is just the normalisation of weapons (and their possession) by the ‘every-man’.

Believe it or not, this is not considered typical, sane or desirable by pretty much every other western society. Now that doesn’t mean guns have to be 100% banned. They are simply regarded as exotic and un-necessary by most and a risk to-boot.

But in the States, apparently there’s one next to every coffee maker in every house and that’s just peachy. So no wonder the tendency of many Americans to go full-on berko, quickly escalates to fire-fights in the streets.

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Speaking of blood in the snow...the Dyatlov Pass question is finally solved?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... obal-en-GB

I'm not smart enough to draw my own conclusion(s) but this seems to be pretty sound. No need for mad military, rampaging yeti or little green men with anal probes.

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Brive1987 wrote: But in the States, apparently there’s one next to every coffee maker in every house and that’s just peachy.
Who stages next to their coffee maker?

So no wonder the tendency of many Americans to go full-on berko, quickly escalates to fire-fights in the streets.
Quantify 'tendency'. Bear in mind: 330 million Americans with c. 400 million guns.

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Bhurzum wrote: Speaking of blood in the snow...the Dyatlov Pass question is finally solved?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... obal-en-GB

I'm not smart enough to draw my own conclusion(s) but this seems to be pretty sound. No need for mad military, rampaging yeti or little green men with anal probes.
The scientific investigation came with an added benefit from Puzrin’s wife, who is Russian. “When I told her that I was working on the Dyatlov mystery, for the first time she looked at me with real respect,” he says.
TMI.

The state of undress some were found in remains puzzling (paradoxical undressing may be an explanation), as do reports that note some of the bodies had traces of radioactivity (which may be a result of thorium present in camping lanterns).
No. The living scavanged clothing from the dead in an attempt to keep warm. Two of the group worked in a uni lab handling radioactive material. Only their clothes were irradiated.


These poor bastards were in way over their head. A Russian Donner Party that made a series of small mistakes leading to one big disaster. I mean, seriously, what the fuck are you doing trekking over the Urals in February? Stay home, listen to Nana Mouskouri albums, cook solyanka, drink vodka, hump like bunnies, stay warm and alive, make babies and grow old.

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Bhurzum wrote: Speaking of blood in the snow...the Dyatlov Pass question is finally solved?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... obal-en-GB

I'm not smart enough to draw my own conclusion(s) but this seems to be pretty sound. No need for mad military, rampaging yeti or little green men with anal probes.
Well it opens with a blatant false dichotomy in the first para - accept our reasonable science based explanation or accept Yeti/UFO.

They postulate snow and ice conditions which just happen to underwrite their theory. They envisage an avalanche just small enough to leave no evidence of itself.

They then use the movie “Frozen”’s cgi as the basis of their simulation. Their hypothesis is that the broken skulls and ribs occurred in the tent, with the participants marching down the long slope to the tree line before they felt the effects. Clearly the avalanche was powerful enough to smash people which leaving the tent largely intact.

They state what happened after the avalanche must be speculation- neatly establishing that the avalanche isn’t said speculation. 😐 the article says they fled in panic (ie consistent with their theory) even though the footprints indicate a controlled and measured descent as a group.

Meh. No new evidence, just the old avalanche/ ice slab theory run out for another drive.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Who stages next to their coffee maker?
If you're sick of the burglars taking the coffee maker, every time you leave town. Give 'em something easier to grab.

Powerline 340 Repeater, with a 13-shot speedloader ...oughta do it.
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The scientific investigation came with an added benefit from Puzrin’s wife, who is Russian. “When I told her that I was working on the Dyatlov mystery, for the first time she looked at me with real respect,” he says.
TMI.
The article was so badly written that I had to read the original paragraph three times before I realised the “he” was the Swiss dude Johan Gaume, not Puzrin.

If I was the Mamushka, I would have treated a Swiss male with the same default contempt.

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Brive1987 wrote: But in the States, apparently there’s one next to every coffee maker in every house and that’s just peachy.
Who stages next to their coffee maker?

So no wonder the tendency of many Americans to go full-on berko, quickly escalates to fire-fights in the streets.
Quantify 'tendency'. Bear in mind: 330 million Americans with c. 400 million guns.
Banter aside. Americans, as a rule, are not nuanced in their opinions or displays of emotion and they think guns are a normal accessory.

A heady mixture.

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Here’s some diagrams I did for my as yet unpublished book “Dyatlov Solved”






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Service Dog wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Who stages next to their coffee maker?
If you're sick of the burglars taking the coffee maker, every time you leave town. Give 'em something easier to grab.

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Wow that's a Beretta 92FS knock-off.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Who stages next to their coffee maker?
If you're sick of the burglars taking the coffee maker, every time you leave town. Give 'em something easier to grab.

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Wow that's a Beretta 92FS knock-off.
The perfect gift for children whose parents want them shot by the cops.

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Brive1987 wrote: Banter aside. Americans, as a rule, are not nuanced in their opinions or displays of emotion and they think guns are a normal accessory.

A heady mixture.
Fuck off, bogan.

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Brive1987 wrote: Gun culture in the USA.

This won’t last long on Twitter. Very Christchurch-esque

And to no one's surprise we have been saved by Twitter. God forbid people be able to view an actual event that actually happened and have their own fucking thoughts about it.

Hail our betters who will protect us from reality.

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Hunt wrote: The perfect gift for children whose parents want them shot by the cops.
Pretty much.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: pulling a trigger from a distance and getting close enough to plunge in a knife are different things altogether. Running away from a knife is also considerably easier than outrunning a bullet.
Why the hell did they stick around? Let me tell you, if I'm having an argument and a gun appears, I'd be out of there so fast only a trail of ozone would be left behind. Clearly there should have been some intervention long, long ago with these people. To be so addled by anger and temporary insanity they couldn't perceive the shit that was about to go down.

Generally true, but the Snow Shovel Shoot-out is more of a counter-example. Not much 'outrunning' on display.
Looks like he coulda stabbed 'em with a switchblade comb, come back with a sword.
It's only a flesh wound!

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Well, you get the point.

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To be fair, there’s no evidence the Russkies were fuck ups - or out of their depth - which makes the incident all the more interesting.

These expeditions were considered normal rites of passage at the time. This party’s specific progress to date had been 100%. The diary records a strong group dynamic. They were on course and on track to their destination. They had, the day before, cached a good supply for the return trip. Their tent was effectively erected and positioned on a marginal-risk slope in reasonable weather. They were in the process of “boots off and eating” when the event occurred.

Then it goes to shit. They cut their way out of a largely intact tent. They regroup and head down hill - some without boots. People die on the way down. They make a fire in the tree line and unsuccessfully attempt to regain their tent line. The balance split: two die at the fire, the others - with significant injuries - shelter in a creek bed and die.

It’s unclear how or when the injuries occur. It’s unclear why they went all the way to the tree line - without basic equipment. It’s unclear why they cut out of the tent. Obviously something made the tent and slope appear a worse option compared to open nighttime terrain without kit ....

Either they were spooked by something odd or an imagined avalanche galvanised them. I don’t believe though that the injuries occurred in the tent. And the condition of the tent belies an actual avalanche.

Curious.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Banter aside. Americans, as a rule, are not nuanced in their opinions or displays of emotion and they think guns are a normal accessory.

A heady mixture.
Fuck off, bogan.
Bogan with a beer can. Quite benign.

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My known knowns.

Something really weird spooked them. Slobodin hurt himself in the way down. Lay down and died. Dyatlov went back up to find him and froze. Zinaida then kitted up, found Dyatlov dead - went up to find the tent and froze.

The balance tried and failed to keep warm in the forest. We will never know why they fled or how the injuries occurred.

Frustrating.

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I'm not sure that the second amendment can truly be said to apply - until everyone gets access to their own JSL.

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Service Dog wrote: Occam's Razor says your absurd-sounding claims are simply absurd. Can you offer anything more persuasive than telling-us Andy Ngo is gay, vietnamese, and talks funny?
On the contrary, Occam's Razor is on my side. The easiest explanation is that Antifa, at least the American version of it, is just another activist movement. It may well manifest in other countries as more than just this; I'm no expert on left wing radicalism in foreign countries. The fact that Protect the Results (not the Dem party) has the ear of Antifa tells me American Antifa is just another garden variety ideology. As Hitchens would say, all the work is ahead of you to show that it isn't. Remember, Ngo asserts that Antifa is dedicated to the destruction of democracy! It's in the fucking title of his book! How does this jibe with any of that?

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Brive1987 wrote: At its simplest, American gun culture is just the normalisation of weapons (and their possession) by the ‘every-man’.

Believe it or not, this is not considered typical, sane or desirable by pretty much every other western society. Now that doesn’t mean guns have to be 100% banned. They are simply regarded as exotic and un-necessary by most and a risk to-boot.

But in the States, apparently there’s one next to every coffee maker in every house and that’s just peachy. So no wonder the tendency of many Americans to go full-on berko, quickly escalates to fire-fights in the streets.
There is a pretty broad view of guns in the US. You are a smart guy. You probably realize this but just want to be hyperbolic about the topics.

Many Americans are very negative toward guns. As a gun owner you have to be very careful with the topic. You will make many people scared even if you just talk about guns in a realistic way. People never talk about guns in the workplace. There will always be one person who even panics at the thought of a gun. You can see this in the media and it expresses itself in a strange way. We have lots of violence in our movies and such... but it is a strange kind of fantasy violence. Cops shoot people in the leg, or cops surrender their guns in a hostage situation. Somehow, Americans can handle this kind of media version of guns... but many can't handle a realistic idea of guns.

I know people who will not go into a house where there is a gun... even one locked in a safe. Many parents ask if a house has a gun before little Johnny can even come over to play. So, it is no so simple over here.

And... you never really see a gun except on a cop in public. Very very few people open carry. They do it to make a political point, but it is pretty uncommon. Open carry is a really stupid idea anyway. Open carry just scares people and allows bad guys to find a target whose gun the can steal.

There is a pile of people who are gun nuts. This is true. They go out in the woods and stage live fire training to practice for when the country is taken over by the UN or some such shit. This is true. It is pretty scary to most people. Lots of gun owners don't like this kind of thing. It just scares people and makes many people ask for more gun regulation.

I do think that many Americans think these LARPing militia types are part of gun culture. I guess they are... I don't know. Youall still haven't really given me a good definition of what "gun culture" is.... and why this horrible murder is somehow gun culture. That fact that this guy had a gun has little to do with the fact that these idiots were actively feuding. This is more like "honor culture" to me.... and honor culture is very common in America. Combine honor culture with gun availability and you get lots of murders.

The interblogs say this: the attitudes, feelings, values, and behaviour of a society, or any social group, in which guns are used

Which really doesn't mean anything.

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Brive1987 wrote: At its simplest, American gun culture is just the normalisation of weapons (and their possession) by the ‘every-man’.

Believe it or not, this is not considered typical, sane or desirable by pretty much every other western society. Now that doesn’t mean guns have to be 100% banned. They are simply regarded as exotic and un-necessary by most and a risk to-boot.

But in the States, apparently there’s one next to every coffee maker in every house and that’s just peachy. So no wonder the tendency of many Americans to go full-on berko, quickly escalates to fire-fights in the streets.
There is a pretty broad view of guns in the US. You are a smart guy. You probably realize this but just want to be hyperbolic about the topics.

Many Americans are very negative toward guns. As a gun owner you have to be very careful with the topic. You will make many people scared even if you just talk about guns in a realistic way. People never talk about guns in the workplace. There will always be one person who even panics at the thought of a gun. You can see this in the media and it expresses itself in a strange way. We have lots of violence in our movies and such... but it is a strange kind of fantasy violence. Cops shoot people in the leg, or cops surrender their guns in a hostage situation. Somehow, Americans can handle this kind of media version of guns... but many can't handle a realistic idea of guns.

I know people who will not go into a house where there is a gun... even one locked in a safe. Many parents ask if a house has a gun before little Johnny can even come over to play. So, it is no so simple over here.

And... you never really see a gun except on a cop in public. Very very few people open carry. They do it to make a political point, but it is pretty uncommon. Open carry is a really stupid idea anyway. Open carry just scares people and allows bad guys to find a target whose gun the can steal.

There is a pile of people who are gun nuts. This is true. They go out in the woods and stage live fire training to practice for when the country is taken over by the UN or some such shit. This is true. It is pretty scary to most people. Lots of gun owners don't like this kind of thing. It just scares people and makes many people ask for more gun regulation.

I do think that many Americans think these LARPing militia types are part of gun culture. I guess they are... I don't know. Youall still haven't really given me a good definition of what "gun culture" is.... and why this horrible murder is somehow gun culture. That fact that this guy had a gun has little to do with the fact that these idiots were actively feuding. This is more like "honor culture" to me.... and honor culture is very common in America. Combine honor culture with gun availability and you get lots of murders.

The interblogs say this: the attitudes, feelings, values, and behaviour of a society, or any social group, in which guns are used

Which really doesn't mean anything.

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Hunt wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:09 am
Service Dog wrote: Occam's Razor says your absurd-sounding claims are simply absurd. Can you offer anything more persuasive than telling-us Andy Ngo is gay, vietnamese, and talks funny?
On the contrary, Occam's Razor is on my side. The easiest explanation is that Antifa, at least the American version of it, is just another activist movement. It may well manifest in other countries as more than just this; I'm no expert on left wing radicalism in foreign countries. The fact that Protect the Results (not the Dem party) has the ear of Antifa tells me American Antifa is just another garden variety ideology. As Hitchens would say, all the work is ahead of you to show that it isn't. Remember, Ngo asserts that Antifa is dedicated to the destruction of democracy! It's in the fucking title of his book! How does this jibe with any of that?
Because Protect the Results did an in depth investigation of Antifa. It is entirely unheard of for a group to put up a dishonest front and use other organisations for their own purposes. No revolutionary group has ever used disinformation campaigns before. Obviously no group supporting the disbanding of police forces and helping set up "autonomous zones" could possibly want to destroy democracy. Antifa, along with BLM extremists and other groups use violence and threats of violence to force people to pay lip service to their ideology. Do they sound like supporters of democracy to you? You have not provided one shred of evidence to contest anything Ngo has said. Antifa have already done the work to show that they aren't a garden variety ideology. Just because the Democratic Party of America have made violent protest (but only for the left) acceptable doesn't mean it should be seen as the new "acticist" normal.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Hunt wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:09 am
Service Dog wrote: Occam's Razor says your absurd-sounding claims are simply absurd. Can you offer anything more persuasive than telling-us Andy Ngo is gay, vietnamese, and talks funny?
On the contrary, Occam's Razor is on my side. The easiest explanation is that Antifa, at least the American version of it, is just another activist movement. It may well manifest in other countries as more than just this; I'm no expert on left wing radicalism in foreign countries. The fact that Protect the Results (not the Dem party) has the ear of Antifa tells me American Antifa is just another garden variety ideology. As Hitchens would say, all the work is ahead of you to show that it isn't. Remember, Ngo asserts that Antifa is dedicated to the destruction of democracy! It's in the fucking title of his book! How does this jibe with any of that?
Because Protect the Results did an in depth investigation of Antifa. It is entirely unheard of for a group to put up a dishonest front and use other organisations for their own purposes. No revolutionary group has ever used disinformation campaigns before. Obviously no group supporting the disbanding of police forces and helping set up "autonomous zones" could possibly want to destroy democracy. Antifa, along with BLM extremists and other groups use violence and threats of violence to force people to pay lip service to their ideology. Do they sound like supporters of democracy to you? You have not provided one shred of evidence to contest anything Ngo has said. Antifa have already done the work to show that they aren't a garden variety ideology. Just because the Democratic Party of America have made violent protest (but only for the left) acceptable doesn't mean it should be seen as the new "acticist" normal.
The current vice president of the United States literally solicited donations to help Antifa terrorists bail out of jail after spending the previous evening attacking government buildings and trying to set cops on fire, etc.

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Brive1987 wrote: Bogan with a beer can.
Is that the sequel to this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... poster.jpg

Was that the joke? I'm very slow these days and miss lots of references... :(

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Hunt wrote: ...Antifa, at least the American version of it, is just another activist movement.
You already made this claim. I quoted you & replied. You ignore the substance of my reply & repeat the claim.
Hunt wrote: ....The fact that Protect the Results (not the Dem party) has the ear of Antifa tells me American Antifa is just another garden variety ideology.
This claim is the exact opposite of what you claimed yesterday. Exact quote--> "There is just about as much connection between ACWTPS and Antifa as there is between ACWTPS and Proud Boys."
Hunt wrote: ....Ngo asserts that Antifa is dedicated to the destruction of democracy!

...How does this jibe with any of that?
I already answered this: history is full of examples-- of the US backing violent tribal warlords, because we shared a common enemy. Arming the mujahideen jihadis against the Soviets does not render the mujahideen pro-democracy.

The deal the Dems cut with Antifa boils down to: Antifa still gets to riot without fear of prosecution, as long as they confine their riots to Dem-approved times and targets.

The entire TIME report describes various organizations putting-aside their differences to conspire against the common foe of Trump.

A similar marriage of convenience occurred in June 2020 when BLM smashed the AFL-CIO headquarters in 2020. BLM attacked because the Police Unions are part of the AFL-CIO. Other member unions within the AFL-CIO firmly supported BLM-- supported the very group attacking them. BLM and those member-unions pressured the AFL-CIO to oust the Police Unions, which are also members. AFL-CIO did not oust the Police Unions. But AFL-CIO did replace their smashed headquarters windows with plywood panels spelling B L A C K L I V E S M A T T E R in giant letters. And... of course, wait for it... AFL-CIO dutifully donated to their BLM assailants.

Nothing about this deal stopped the police unions from continuing to defend racist killer cops . But BLM shut the fuck up... and confined their rioting, arson, looting, intimidation, murder to acceptable targets.

Of particular note: the specific union within AFL-CIO, which cried-foul against police unions being part of AFL-CIO-- was the Writer's Guild... which has expanded beyond their screenwriter base/ now they're the union representing online-content writers. After the enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend deal was cut... the writers stopped complaining about police unions, complained about acceptable-target Trump & trump-voters.

Remember: the machiavelli behind the conspiracy celebrated by TIME-- is the senior advisor to the president of AFL-CIO, in charge of influencing elections for public office. And the same guy is behind the founding of Analyst Institute-- the Democrats' political strategy thinktank, and Catalist-- the Democrats' data-mining and digital-influence-strategy firm. Catalist instructed Facebook and Twitter to suppress the Hunter Biden bribery story, censor & deplatform pro-Trump citizens as 'dangerous disinformation'.

Antifa associating with the Democrat's ratfucking operation doesn't clean up Antifa's anti-democratic reputation. Just like "Hey, I work with the CIA!" is a hardly a character reference for a warlord.
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John D wrote: We have lots of violence in our movies and such... but it is a strange kind of fantasy violence. Cops shoot people in the leg, or cops surrender their guns in a hostage situation.
Or even mo stupider, when half a dozen characters all draw their guns and point them, fingers on the triggers, at each other from about four feet away, until someone says, 'could everyone please slowly put down your guns?' and they all do.

Now, that scenario might be plausible were it a bunch of Australians, who, although as a nation are all crass, inbred drunkards, are also unarmed. 'Oy Mates? Put down the cayns of four ex?'
"After I finish my lahga, maybe, you bogan.' "Fuck you and your fat wombat wife.' 'I did have a root with your fat wife, you lazy derro.' And then they beat each other senseless with cans of beer. Okay maybe not so plausible.

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Really? wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:36 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Hunt wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:09 am
Service Dog wrote: Occam's Razor says your absurd-sounding claims are simply absurd. Can you offer anything more persuasive than telling-us Andy Ngo is gay, vietnamese, and talks funny?
On the contrary, Occam's Razor is on my side. The easiest explanation is that Antifa, at least the American version of it, is just another activist movement. It may well manifest in other countries as more than just this; I'm no expert on left wing radicalism in foreign countries. The fact that Protect the Results (not the Dem party) has the ear of Antifa tells me American Antifa is just another garden variety ideology. As Hitchens would say, all the work is ahead of you to show that it isn't. Remember, Ngo asserts that Antifa is dedicated to the destruction of democracy! It's in the fucking title of his book! How does this jibe with any of that?
Because Protect the Results did an in depth investigation of Antifa. It is entirely unheard of for a group to put up a dishonest front and use other organisations for their own purposes. No revolutionary group has ever used disinformation campaigns before. Obviously no group supporting the disbanding of police forces and helping set up "autonomous zones" could possibly want to destroy democracy. Antifa, along with BLM extremists and other groups use violence and threats of violence to force people to pay lip service to their ideology. Do they sound like supporters of democracy to you? You have not provided one shred of evidence to contest anything Ngo has said. Antifa have already done the work to show that they aren't a garden variety ideology. Just because the Democratic Party of America have made violent protest (but only for the left) acceptable doesn't mean it should be seen as the new "acticist" normal.
The current vice president of the United States literally solicited donations to help Antifa terrorists bail out of jail after spending the previous evening attacking government buildings and trying to set cops on fire, etc.
Democrat councillors and mayors have been justifying the violence in their own cities, hamstringing their own police forces and ridiculing people who call for police protection as privileged. It quite plainly has nothing to do with racial "justice" if you look at which races have been most harmed by events. It's quite noticeable how people protecting themselves or their businesses against the violence have been treated by the press. Strip away all of the rhetoric and it becomes obvious that the real objective is attacking the police, government immigration agencies amongst other govt agencies and probably generally trying to weaken constitutional protections of the individual.

When you step back from the inane go-arounds with minimisers and get your bearings it is clear what a mind fuck it really is. Pelosi says she doesn't care about statues, "People will do what they do". How does a 1st world nation reach the stage where mobs destroying public property are of no interest? You cannot have a stable country without respect for property and the law. Statue toppling is the least of it. State protection of private property, livelihood and life is the basis of a functioning democracy. The right to self-defence has definitely been under attack. Acquiescence to the mob is the new expectation. Countless numbers of jobs and businesses lost, rocketing crime rates, burning buildings and blinded policemen and the Democrat overlords of these districts refuse outside help and cripple their own forces. Suggestion of imposing order by Federal forces is labeled tyranny. The population have been held hostage to the grand lie that the daily danger to PoCs from racist police and Trump supporters is so great that normalcy is impossible. The Democratic party has been central to the creation of this lie and they inflame the violence every time that they megaphone bullshit about the latest police interaction, Smollet fuckery or quintessentially racist grinning white schoolboy. I'm absolutely sick of the gaslighting garbage about this and the pitifully dishonest denial of the obvious machinations to implicate Trump and anybody who supports him in "insurrection" and strip away their constitutional protections. Calls by politicians to expel their opposition for exercising their protected constitutional rights are not even the thin edge of the wedge, the wedge is halfway in already. If the response to legitimate questions about an election result are not to allow scrutiny but to muzzle the questioners then trouble lies ahead. Seems the constitution is now what those in power say it is.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 am
John D wrote: We have lots of violence in our movies and such... but it is a strange kind of fantasy violence. Cops shoot people in the leg, or cops surrender their guns in a hostage situation.
Or even mo stupider, when half a dozen characters all draw their guns and point them, fingers on the triggers, at each other from about four feet away, until someone says, 'could everyone please slowly put down your guns?' and they all do.
Made even mo mo stupider by the fact that they're all law enforcement agents arguing over who gets the perp. I get less tolerant of movie stupidity with advancing age and question why the scriptwriters feel it necessary for the lead toughguy's gun to be the star of the show. If Hollywood informed my understanding of the US I'd think the standard greeting was pointing pistols at each other.

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Service Dog wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:11 am
Antifa associating with the Democrat's ratfucking operation doesn't clean up Antifa's anti-democratic reputation. Just like "Hey, I work with the CIA!" is a hardly a character reference for a warlord.
Didn't do much for Carter Page either.

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Maxine Waters calls for Trump to be charged with 1st Degree 'Premeditated Murder" for "Advance Planning" of the "Invasion" of D.C.



Dear Muslima,
who was home, and not at the Capitol that day...


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Chase Bank stops payment processing for Covfefe Coffee, for using a silly name to support Trump, not oppose him. In 2019, Amazon halted Covfefe Coffee's advertisements-- with the demand that Covfefe remove the American Flag from the ads.

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2021/02/05/c ... hy-n322597

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Nancy Pelosi issues a formal statement describing to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) as "(Q-CA)."

Pelosi's insult contradicts McCarthy's actual position of denouncing QAnon and condemning incoming republican Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG), for posting QAnon conspiracy theories on her social media in 2018 & 2019.

McCarthy took to the podium to denounce Greene's pro-Q past, but at 2min13sec MSNBC interrupted the broadcast, to say McCarthy was lying:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/02 ... -not-true/

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Re: The 3FJ, Matt, & Dog Conspiracy Show

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Ya wee fuckin' beauty! Gerrit right up ye!


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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: "American Antifa is just another garden variety ideology." .... " ...like other protest movements."

"Antifa, at least the American version of it, is just another activist movement."
When you say Antifia is "like" other movements-- what's the nature of this likeness? Where does the likeness end? I doubt you're saying Antifa is 100% interchangable with, for example, the Atheist Movement, Secular Movement, Skeptic Movement.

I hate having to ask this, but, are you playing a semantic word game?

Is this gonna be something-like... you fight tooth-and-nail against Ngo's interpretation of Antifa. But then you'll say "oh, yeah, I have no objection to anything Ngo said-- if he'd only said it about Black Bloc. But no, not muh Antifa!"

Ngo:

"One facet of this movement (specifically of the revolutionary anarchist movement) is encapsulated and advanced by the militant actions of a group commonly referred to as the Black Bloc. This informal grouping has acted as a necessary radical action wing of the larger social protest movement. Where liberal inclinations have threatened to stifle large demonstrations under a blanket of acceptability, predictability and boredom, this contingent—numbering anywhere from less than 100 to over 1000 in a typical Bloc—has forced a creative unleashing of popular insurrectionary sentiment."

Do you dispute that characterization of Black Bloc?

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