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Still nursing the British election result like it’s an aged malt.

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Titania responds to the election:



Look at the fourth tweet in the collection. Apparently the pro-Brexit brits need to get their own island.

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Highly recommend watching this if you can get past who is hosting. VDH is on of the most perceptive political commentators around AFAIAC.
https://youtu.be/-4Gkm77usT0

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"The Army and Navy academies are looking into hand signs flashed by students that can be associated with “white power" and were televised during the Army-Navy football game on Saturday, school officials said."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/possible-whi ... 37630.html

I find this so very interesting: 2 years ago 4chan trolls the internet pushing the notion that the OK sign is actually a secret white power symbol, and 2 years later it's now considered conventional knowledge that it is. lol.

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Brive1987 wrote: Still nursing the British election result like it’s an aged malt.

:dance: :dance:
Agree of my takeaways:

It strikes me that there are a fair few noseless faces that were well spited in this election.

The first past the post electoral model is a piss poor way to underpin representative democracy. But then that is the point.

The beginning of a new golden age for the empire is stillborn.

Like cream or shit, Boris will be floating at the top irrespective of what happens to the rest of the citizenry.

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A couple not Agree.

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Driftless wrote: Titania responds to the election:



Look at the fourth tweet in the collection. Apparently the pro-Brexit brits need to get their own island.
I guess that the natural response to that last tweet is "we just did".

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some guy wrote: "The Army and Navy academies are looking into hand signs flashed by students that can be associated with “white power" and were televised during the Army-Navy football game on Saturday, school officials said."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/possible-whi ... 37630.html

I find this so very interesting: 2 years ago 4chan trolls the internet pushing the notion that the OK sign is actually a secret white power symbol, and 2 years later it's now considered conventional knowledge that it is. lol.
Tim Pool says it is the circle game. Apparently you make the gesture and when someone notices you get to punch them or something:


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At least 5-10 years of Tory Govt ? So be it.
Will the Labour Party leadership actually come to its senses in that time?
Hold my craft beer (ethically brewed )
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some guy wrote: "The Army and Navy academies are looking into hand signs flashed by students that can be associated with “white power" and were televised during the Army-Navy football game on Saturday, school officials said."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/possible-whi ... 37630.html

I find this so very interesting: 2 years ago 4chan trolls the internet pushing the notion that the OK sign is actually a secret white power symbol, and 2 years later it's now considered conventional knowledge that it is. lol.
And what's even more interesting is that the hoax culminated from another wild claim the media arrived at with no proof, namely that milk was now a symbol of white supremacy because someone carried (and drunk from) a jug of milk at a He Will Not Divide Us protest.

Which was later followed by It's Okay To Be White, probably the least controversial and/or confrontational message they could have chosen - and the media still found ways to twist it. The media and the seemingly gullible children they propagate to. (I'm assuming they're children, because they don't seem to know what the OK sign even is.)

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Still nursing the British election result like it’s an aged malt.

:dance: :dance:
Agree of my takeaways:

It strikes me that there are a fair few noseless faces that were well spited in this election.

The first past the post electoral model is a piss poor way to underpin representative democracy. But then that is the point.

The beginning of a new golden age for the empire is stillborn.

Like cream or shit, Boris will be floating at the top irrespective of what happens to the rest of the citizenry.
You are arguing for proportional representation? This tends to flatten out local character and small communities in favour of a tyranny of the mass.

The other options, FPTP and preferential voting, each has problems, even though they address a common puzzle. How do you take a field of options, retain the appearance of fairness, but also end up with a single winner?

FPTP simply ignores blocks of votes and the greater the plurality the less obvious is the winners mandate.
Preferential makes every vote appear to count, but only by transfiguring choice into barely considered downstream results.

Add compulsory voting to preferential and you get a barely conscious lumbering brute of a system.

The only real solution is to fuck off diversity in favour of a true two party solution. However. Given the left is retarded, it’s probably best to change democracy to simply appointing office bearers for a fixed, traditionalist centre-right National patriotic party. Something that prioritises the family and the nativist population over globalistic individualism.

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Where I live politicians have to win a clear majority (50% + 1 vote). If no one does, there is a run-off election 4 weeks later against the top two. Typically only one or two close races go to the run off statewide, and when that happens, it's usually in the big positions: Gov, Senator, congress-critter, etc, where the libertarians run a candidate who grabs 3-4% of the vote. The problem is that turn-out for the run off is substantially lower than the general election, as only the die hard partisans bother to spend another day going to the polls, and it always the case that the eventual winner gets far fewer votes in the runoff than the loser did in the general election. And usually it's a Republican winning, and by a bigger % margin (although usually the libertarians are siphoning Republican votes.)

A better solution would be to have "instant run off", where in your initial ballot, you also specify a 2nd (and 3rd?) choice. If your #1 isn't in the top 2 (and so is eliminated), your vote will go to your #2 choice.

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Brive1987 wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Still nursing the British election result like it’s an aged malt.

:dance: :dance:
Agree of my takeaways:

It strikes me that there are a fair few noseless faces that were well spited in this election.

The first past the post electoral model is a piss poor way to underpin representative democracy. But then that is the point.

The beginning of a new golden age for the empire is stillborn.

Like cream or shit, Boris will be floating at the top irrespective of what happens to the rest of the citizenry.
You are arguing for proportional representation? This tends to flatten out local character and small communities in favour of a tyranny of the mass.

The other options, FPTP and preferential voting, each has problems, even though they address a common puzzle. How do you take a field of options, retain the appearance of fairness, but also end up with a single winner?

FPTP simply ignores blocks of votes and the greater the plurality the less obvious is the winners mandate.
Preferential makes every vote appear to count, but only by transfiguring choice into barely considered downstream results.

Add compulsory voting to preferential and you get a barely conscious lumbering brute of a system.

The only real solution is to fuck off diversity in favour of a true two party solution. However. Given the left is retarded, it’s probably best to change democracy to simply appointing office bearers for a fixed, traditionalist centre-right National patriotic party. Something that prioritises the family and the nativist population over globalistic individualism.
Yeah I'm in favour of proportional representation, like in New Zealand. Local character is most definitely not flattened, as long as your preferred reps/party can get 5% of the vote. Under 5% and you weed out the fringe loonies while representing the position of a greater proportion of your citizenry. Then the reps have to negotiate and work out compromises.

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InfraRedBucket wrote: At least 5-10 years of Tory Govt ? So be it.
Will the Labour Party leadership actually come to its senses in that time?
Hold my craft beer (ethically brewed )
the fight back starts here....
One rather hopes that dweeb's desire to visit untimely death to her political opponents will be remembered when she goes for her interviews at medical schools in her quest to become a 'doctah'.

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The wahking clahss people are disgusting. They can go fahk themselves, reahlly they can. I would heppily shoot each one of them in their faces. Yah, I reahlly would, absolutely disgusting people. When I'm a doctahh, I will simply have my nurses - Indians, or whateveahh - touch these people. I simply couldn't bring myself to go near their disgusting, scrofulatic bodies, no way *aristocratic giggle*

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I have seen people on FaceBook using workd like "grieving" and "mourning" about the Tory win. They'll ask for "some space to process this", like fucking five year olds whose granny has just died. It's amazing. Awful.

And they abuse their kids with it too. They'll say things like "I held the boys on the couch last night, we just sat there while I cried and told them I would try to keep them safe. But TBH I am so worried they will die in the next 5 years". It's horrendous, I really think it is mental abuse to take your own middle class insecurities about your precarious position in the societal hierarchy and feed them to your kids, warning them that there will be a collapse of society in the next few years which will see them ratting in bins for food and being chased with guns by state police.

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some guy wrote: Where I live politicians have to win a clear majority (50% + 1 vote). If no one does, there is a run-off election 4 weeks later against the top two. Typically only one or two close races go to the run off statewide, and when that happens, it's usually in the big positions: Gov, Senator, congress-critter, etc, where the libertarians run a candidate who grabs 3-4% of the vote. The problem is that turn-out for the run off is substantially lower than the general election, as only the die hard partisans bother to spend another day going to the polls, and it always the case that the eventual winner gets far fewer votes in the runoff than the loser did in the general election. And usually it's a Republican winning, and by a bigger % margin (although usually the libertarians are siphoning Republican votes.)

A better solution would be to have "instant run off", where in your initial ballot, you also specify a 2nd (and 3rd?) choice. If your #1 isn't in the top 2 (and so is eliminated), your vote will go to your #2 choice.
Otherwise known as the "alternative vote" method, which we in the UK had a referendum on in 2011 and rejected 67% against, 32 for.
FPTP has it's valid criticisms but not enough it seems to replace it for the foreseeable and even less so when a party wins a big majority under it.
The AV vote in 2011 was a concession by the Tories while in a coalition with the Lib Dems at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Unit ... referendum

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screwtape wrote:
InfraRedBucket wrote: At least 5-10 years of Tory Govt ? So be it.
Will the Labour Party leadership actually come to its senses in that time?
Hold my craft beer (ethically brewed )
the fight back starts here....
One rather hopes that dweeb's desire to visit untimely death to her political opponents will be remembered when she goes for her interviews at medical schools in her quest to become a 'doctah'.
She's going to be a doctah and wishes him a horrible death. Kind of reminds me of my uncle, a doctah (I use that term loosely), who considered AIDS patients with disgust, back in the day when AIDS was certain death.

Some people really shouldn't be doctahs.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:35 am
The wahking clahss people are disgusting. They can go fahk themselves, reahlly they can. I would heppily shoot each one of them in their faces. Yah, I reahlly would, absolutely disgusting people. When I'm a doctahh, I will simply have my nurses - Indians, or whateveahh - touch these people. I simply couldn't bring myself to go near their disgusting, scrofulatic bodies, no way *aristocratic giggle*
Ehktually, an awful lot of the doctors are Indian, Pakistani, Eastern Yerpean and even Arab. Thing is, they get on very well with the plummy accented white doctors, at least in hospital settings. They recognise one another as being part of a privileged stratum. I had an Indian registrar as a mate at the hospital where I worked in London. He was going on at lunch one day about doctor's pay and how it made it difficult for him to afford some expensive lifestyle choice or other. I told him he was acting a little bit entitled and he informed me without irony that I didn't understand that he was a highly educated doctor and was entitled to expect more out of life. He was a good guy, but I did find it a bit disconcerting the first time I suddenly became invisible when a consultant hove into view. A phenomenon known to the nurses as "doctoritis". Truth is though, that there was usually a bit of a family atmosphere in the clinical units with everyone from the consultants down socialising together at the pub on occasion. Aside from the odd prickly ponce most of the consultants worked really hard and genuinely cared about their patients.

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Hunt wrote: Some people really shouldn't be doctahs.
A change of direction, but you're damn right. The issue is how to pick them. The Norte Americano approach of requiring a massively oversized MCAT score produces really entitled robotic droids who actively disdain patients. The old UK approach of 'Yaas, I remember your father as a student. Jolly good. Start in September.' doesn't work overly well either. The current one of requiring overt demonstrations of ridiculously socially aware caring from teenagers simply encourages dishonesty - "I washed the feet of thirty seven homeless men before class and sold my mom's Merc to buy them all breakfast" kind of nonsense. I don't have an answer.

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I have chosen nurse/practitioners for my primary care provider in the US for about a dozen years now - they are SO much more personable and empathetic that the MDs I have seen in the past.

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Ah, you just like women doing your DRE...

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KiwiInOz wrote: Yeah I'm in favour of proportional representation, like in New Zealand. Local character is most definitely not flattened, as long as your preferred reps/party can get 5% of the vote. Under 5% and you weed out the fringe loonies while representing the position of a greater proportion of your citizenry. Then the reps have to negotiate and work out compromises.
I've always liked the idea of a lottery. Like jury duty.

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Keating wrote:
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I've always liked the idea of a lottery. Like jury duty.
Sounds like something Shirley Jackson might come up with.

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screwtape wrote: Ah, you just like women doing your DRE...
Last time was done by Erik Torgerson, MD - a 2m tall blond Swede bloke, and no, it wasn't as much fun as when Kaitlin did it :-(

BTW, Jess Phillips shows yet again what a complete utter cunt she is.


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This is a year old, but I'm fast falling in love with this adult human female:


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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: This is a year old, but I'm fast falling in love with this adult human female:

Yep, she's going on the Lsuoma Hottie list. Smart AND attractive.

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Note the Sky presenter read the IPA version of woman as 'women' as if it was an oddly spelled plural rather than a pronunciation guide. Did she not see the 'ʊ' and 'ə'? More likely no one in that newsroom has any idea what the IPA is, and if questioned about it they would probably debate the merits of Courage over Bass, or some awful microbrewed efforts no one has heard of.

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Just been thinking - I remember when my wife and I were having our first child. I actually spent some time thinking about whether I should raise them as Christians. Of course, I am a hard atheist, so raising my kids with some religion would be pretty hard for me and would involve, perhaps, a bit of deception. Ultimately, I decided that I would be honest with my kids. I would show them, by example, that the best life in one full of honesty, dedication, loyalty to family, sexual fidelity, hard work, etc.

Well.... maybe it came out as good as it could have... but... I have been pretty distressed with my oldest daughter. I think that I may have, unintentionally, left her a bit un-moored. She is regularly dishonest with me, my wife, and her life partners. She is emotionally unstable and generally illogical about ethical and political ideas.

We had a talk the other day where I told her I think she needs to think more about first principles. I was making the claim that she needed to be more honest in her life and that she should be more patient with people who do not share her opinion. I was surprised when she said that if she had to be honest about the way the world works that she could not survive.... she would surly kill herself due to depression.

So.... she has really become a member of the secular church.... the church of poly... the church of trans... the church of socialism. Shit. Years ago a friend asked me how I would feel if my kids became Christian. I told them I would be upset... but I never imagined that I wish my kid was a Christian rather than what she has become. Fuck me.

So.... on to first principles. When I was a young atheist in the 1970s I read the two books that where "required" reading; Bertraind Russle's "Why I am not a Christian" and Lewis's "Mere Christianity". Ultimately, I found Lewis's argument unconvincing. He basically says I am a Christian cause I know there must be a god. Pretty weak sauce.

But. I do agree with the argument that people become lost without some kind of belief in first principles, or natural laws, or practical ethics... or whatever you want to call it. Somehow.... my oldest daughter doesn't live a particularly ethical life in my opinion.... and perhaps I am part of the reason.

I found these videos to be pretty interesting. It is a three part reading (with cartoons) of Lewis's "Abolition of Man". Pretty good stuff in my opinion.






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I've been away for a bit. What did I miss?

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John D wrote: I do agree with the argument that people become lost without some kind of belief in first principles, or natural laws, or practical ethics... or whatever you want to call it. Somehow.... my oldest daughter doesn't live a particularly ethical life in my opinion.... and perhaps I am part of the reason.
I think you did a pretty-good job of being a model of traditional ethical values. Explicitly adding 'God' wouldn't have made a difference. You were pissing-against a strong headwind-- an era of Question Authority/ Smash The Patriarchy/ ignorant vulgarity as-a-virtue.

The only thing I would have advised you to do-differently-- is to not provide a financial safety net. Your daughter would have still been a weirdo-- but out-of-necessity, she would-have had-to develop a stronger interface with the 'real world'.

I'm thinking of a specific kooky-person I know. Different quirks, but... this one is a real piece of work. But she found her niche doing part-time office-work for an old celebrity drug addict/ and bartending in a sleazy dive... a tacit detante-- between her self-indulgent self-delusions/ and the necessity of paying monthly rent.

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Service Dog wrote:
John D wrote: I do agree with the argument that people become lost without some kind of belief in first principles, or natural laws, or practical ethics... or whatever you want to call it. Somehow.... my oldest daughter doesn't live a particularly ethical life in my opinion.... and perhaps I am part of the reason.
I think you did a pretty-good job of being a model of traditional ethical values. Explicitly adding 'God' wouldn't have made a difference. You were pissing-against a strong headwind-- an era of Question Authority/ Smash The Patriarchy/ ignorant vulgarity as-a-virtue.

The only thing I would have advised you to do-differently-- is to not provide a financial safety net. Your daughter would have still been a weirdo-- but out-of-necessity, she would-have had-to develop a stronger interface with the 'real world'.

I'm thinking of a specific kooky-person I know. Different quirks, but... this one is a real piece of work. But she found her niche doing part-time office-work for an old celebrity drug addict/ and bartending in a sleazy dive... a tacit detante-- between her self-indulgent self-delusions/ and the necessity of paying monthly rent.
She owes me $1000. Shit.

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Anyone given any consideration to the alternatives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaPSlK4fsCE


Or indeed, have any plans for the solstice?

I'm thinking of meeting up with the Druids myself.

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John D wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:02 am
Just been thinking - I remember when my wife and I were having our first child. I actually spent some time thinking about whether I should raise them as Christians. Of course, I am a hard atheist, so raising my kids with some religion would be pretty hard for me and would involve, perhaps, a bit of deception. Ultimately, I decided that I would be honest with my kids. I would show them, by example, that the best life in one full of honesty, dedication, loyalty to family, sexual fidelity, hard work, etc.

Well.... maybe it came out as good as it could have... but... I have been pretty distressed with my oldest daughter. I think that I may have, unintentionally, left her a bit un-moored. She is regularly dishonest with me, my wife, and her life partners. She is emotionally unstable and generally illogical about ethical and political ideas.

We had a talk the other day where I told her I think she needs to think more about first principles. I was making the claim that she needed to be more honest in her life and that she should be more patient with people who do not share her opinion. I was surprised when she said that if she had to be honest about the way the world works that she could not survive.... she would surly kill herself due to depression.

So.... she has really become a member of the secular church.... the church of poly... the church of trans... the church of socialism. Shit. Years ago a friend asked me how I would feel if my kids became Christian. I told them I would be upset... but I never imagined that I wish my kid was a Christian rather than what she has become. Fuck me.
You probably should've raised her Muslim. I hear they're right about women.

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Lsuoma wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: This is a year old, but I'm fast falling in love with this adult human female:

Yep, she's going on the Lsuoma Hottie list. Smart AND attractive.
I'm not into the sub/dom thing, but I'll make a big fucking exception for Psoie Parker. Also, is she a prole trying to appear posh or the other way round? I hear a fairly well-spoken voice but something else keeps trying to poke through.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:11 pm
Lsuoma wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ... I'm fast falling in love with this adult human female:
Yep, she's going on the Lsuoma Hottie list. Smart AND attractive.
... something else keeps trying to poke through.
That'd be me.

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dogen wrote: I've been away for a bit. What did I miss?
David Silverman richard carriered that oklahoma atheist woman whose house was destroyed by a tornado-- and she got full-hensley t-t-trigggered, like A+forum snowflake level. At first she elevatored him in a podvlog. Then he babbooned her husband's text message backchannel. Then the World Atheists League (or whatever) american-atheisted Silverman2019 like silverman2018.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
I'm not into the sub/dom thing, but I'll make a big fucking exception for Psoie Parker. Also, is she a prole trying to appear posh or the other way round? I hear a fairly well-spoken voice but something else keeps trying to poke through.
It's a funny thing, but when we listen to someone else we make quick judgements about intelligence and wealth/class/background - more or less accurate if you're a native speaker and immersed in the same culture. But I'm largely out of touch with the UK, and accents, or rather their acceptability, have changed a lot since I left. Posie sounds like an intelligent person who retains traces of her west country accent. I do have a soft spot for the west country accent, as I grew up as a little yokel in Wiltshire, but adopted RP camouflage in order not to be laughed at in teaching hospitals. Remember the old fraud Shaw: "It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him."

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Service Dog wrote:
dogen wrote: I've been away for a bit. What did I miss?
David Silverman richard carriered that oklahoma atheist woman
Did he cover her in spunk?

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screwtape wrote: Remember the old fraud Shaw: "It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him."
Shaw had that particular talent regardless of his accent.

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So, I find myself fascinated with this upcoming conclusion to the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Not the movie itself, which I couldn't care less about and won't see until it's out on Blu-ray and I can illegally stream it. It's the meta business question of how a smart company like Disney let the brand they paid dearly for degrade so catastrophically, and how far it's going to go. Originally, they were planning on a franchise that could power annual movie releases with $1 billion global revenue as the floor, as well as a toy sales and theme park expansion juggernaut. Both toy sales and the theme park expansion have been disasters to date, they had one movie lose money, and this movie should give an idea of how badly damaged the movie franchise is.

Initial reviews are very mixed, with the negative reviews tending to sharply critical and the positive reviews tending to grudging. They indicate JJ Abrams has gone back to his wheelhouse of big dumb fast paced action movies, but full of fan service. The hope, no doubt, is that they'll be able to get the Fast & Furious crowd plus casual Star Wars fans and get a $1.5 billion movie in the process, even if more hard-core fans shun it. They very well may be right, and we should have a good idea after this weekend's numbers are released. The floor is probably around half that, which is probably near the break even point.

Of course, even if it is a total disaster, the seeds for renewal are already in place with the popularity of the good, but not great, Mandalorian. The toy business should be shocked back to life with the salting of the earth with Baby Yoda toys in the next six months. Baby Yoda was a particularly ingenious decision, since they now also have a vehicle for continuity for decades as they move the storyline into the future (which rumor says is their preference over setting long term story arcs in the past).

But the question remains of how a company that usually makes smart decisions make such stupid decisions for the movie trilogy, like:
- Begin production without a firm story treatment for the entire trilogy
- open the trilogy with essentially reversing the result from the original trilogy without explanation
- have a middle chapter that halts story progress set up in the first chapter, provides no setup for the final chapter, and shits on the original characters, along with countless story telling and tone consistency flaws.
- allow positive representation social justice goals to override real character development. Granted, not every story has to follow the Heroes Journey template, but they confused difficult challenges and setbacks with weakness which they would not allow to besmirch their main protagonist, at the cost of emotional commitment to the character except among those who only cared she was female.
- why was there such trouble with directors, with three of the original five selected directors either fired midway or before production began, which exacerbated the problems with flow and consistency.

Obviously, Kathleen Kennedy (and her belief that Star Wars was an adventure story for boys, which she would rectify) will take most of the blame, but why did Disney execs go along? I suspect that about a year from now when the sequel trilogy as a revenue vehicle has run its course, we'll find out quite a bit more.

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Sulman wrote: David Silverman richard carriered that oklahoma atheist woman
Did he cover her in spunk?
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He barely brushed against her-- while frothing with creepy desire-- and delusions of grandeur.

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jugheadnaut wrote: The toy business should be shocked back to life with the salting of the earth with Baby Yoda toys in the next six months.
They may have bungled that, too. Apparently there aren't-many Baby Yoda toys available in time for Christmas.

I just watched episode 7 of The Mandalorian. I'm the exact-right age to have been startled by the appearance of an Imperial Troop Transporter. A toy from my youth, with zero screen time in Star Wars. So I googled the old toy. Which triggered an ad on YouTube-- promoting Star Wars action figures at Target stores-- with a slogan like, 'the toys of a generation'. I was intrigued by the ad mixing images of 1977 toys with new stuff... so I went to Target.com Where you can pre-order Baby Yoda toys... but they're listed as "available 5/2020". Haw!

http://theswca.com/images-toys/figuretoys/itt-front.jpg

I think "good but not great" is the secret recipe which has been eluding Star Wars for years. The franchise needed to get-over its own sense of greatness-- and learn to be a perennial purveyor of reliable fast food, like McDonalds. Some of these Mandalorian episodes are as perfectly-cruddy as Scooby-Do, The A-Team, Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century, Planet of the Apes, The Six Million Dollar Man vs. Bigfoot. Not just a time before billion dollar movie sequel franchises... but before-even today's style of prestige television series. So out of style-- it's become kinda refreshing again.

Plus, we'll need that kind of shallow escapism when the economy repeats late-70's/early-80's malaise, next year.

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Service Dog wrote:
He barely brushed against her-- while frothing with creepy desire-- and delusions of grandeur.
I followed the patheos link that windy put up about about Silverman versus the Tornado Woman last week to a nearly-two-hour podcast from the 'touched' woman. (and another 45 minutes the next day) which she scatted far and wide into the pod-o-sphere.

Two minutes was quite enough for me, though ... https://overcast.fm/+UnyZKNgdg

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Anyone here doing the "ketogenic" diet and/or interested in discussing the merits/evils of a fat based diet? Just wondering since there's so many smartypants here.

Seems there was a brief paroxysm of discussion here on this about year ago, but nothing since.

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Not wearing smartypants, and not much energy, but the following are clear:
-you will lose weight, presumably down to a new set point which will depend on exercise level.
-cholesterol numbers will improve, not worsen. Unknown if this actually means less arteriopathy.
-other long term effects unknown as no long term (decades) studies done. Only the Inuit leading pre-contact lives would know, if we had records and if they hadn't kept dying of other things.

I'd take a harm-reduction approach. Maybe the diet isn't perfect and will be shown to cause something nasty after years of use. But this might still be preferable to trying to survive as long with NIDDM and obesity. A practical problem is this: it's not an easy diet to stick with. The Inuit had no choice. Presumably pre-agricultural hunter gatherers relished the gathered part as often as they could. Carb cravings are intense and those carbs will be under your nose and on offer the whole time.

Now for some fun. We know peoples who have had generations of low carb diets (Inuit, Polynesian) are especially prone to being unable to cope with carbs when they get them, becoming very obese and diabetic. We know that the epigenome is altered by diet and the change is heritable for at least one generation with effects nearly gone in the second (Holland experience in WW2). Imagine someone eats a ketogenic diet all their life. Are their kids more likely to behave like Polynesians on carbs as a result, as their epigenomic inheritance includes a temporary naivety to carbohydrates?

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And the witch of the week is...*shuffles deck*,,,JK Rowling!

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Sulman wrote: And the witch of the week is...*shuffles deck*,,,JK Rowling!
It's clowns all the way down. If sex is not immutable, then what are trans people? Is that not what trans means, to transition? What are they trying to transition from?

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fuzzy wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
He barely brushed against her-- while frothing with creepy desire-- and delusions of grandeur.
I followed the patheos link that windy put up about about Silverman versus the Tornado Woman last week to a nearly-two-hour podcast from the 'touched' woman. (and another 45 minutes the next day) which she scatted far and wide into the pod-o-sphere.

Two minutes was quite enough for me, though ... https://overcast.fm/+UnyZKNgdg
So he DIDN'T caress her, like she said originally. Caress and touch are two very different words and have two very different connotations.

A single touch triggered her "really hard" and that triggering went on for several hours? No wonder Silverman apologised, she's a fucking nutcase.

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Pitchguest wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:07 am

It's clowns all the way down. If sex is not immutable, then what are trans people? Is that not what trans means, to transition? What are they trying to transition from?
You have not been keeping up with the modern scientific consensus. Human beings do not have biological sex. They are assigned a gender at birth, frequently by a midwife or obstetrician with outdated ideas about genitalia. They transition from the gender they were assigned at birth to the gender they were really born with.

Thinking anything else is a serious thoughtcrime.

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And specially among the mourning Corbynites. "Centrist" is the new term of abuse,
if you don't decide each argument on its considered merits, right or wrong, or don't take their side only, you're the enemy.

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screwtape wrote: We know that the epigenome is altered by diet and the change is heritable for at least one generation with effects nearly gone in the second (Holland experience in WW2).
The Dutch Winter Hunger of 1944 -1945 has been widely misused as evidence by anti-darwinians like Massimo Pigliucci and that biology teacher from Minnesota. If the mother conceived up to three months before she suffered starvation, her child grew up to be of normal weight. If, otoh, she conceived while starving, but during the pregnancy again received adequate nutrition, her child still grew up to be of below normal weight. It's often falsely argued that the fetus inherited the epigenetic 'markers' from its starving mother, rather than acquiring them on its own in utero.
cf:
https://jamesclear.com/wp-content/uploa ... r-life.pdf


NB: indication that starvation of the mother at any point nevertheless led to multiple adult health issues for the fetus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16876341


Whether epigenetic markers are inheritable even one generation is still in question. These pro-epi researchers review several studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4157403/

From my cursory glance, I see the several studies dismiss possible confounding factors [i.e., study on stress among holocaust survivor families], depend on correlation-equals-causation assumptions, but offer no putative mechanism for inheritance other than an inchoate "transmissible ‘memory’". I'd take a closer look, but my horses are standing outside my door asking whether I plan on conducting a starvation experiment on them.

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Pitchguest wrote:
So he DIDN'T caress her, like she said originally. Caress and touch are two very different words and have two very different connotations.

A single touch triggered her "really hard" and that triggering went on for several hours? No wonder Silverman apologised, she's a fucking nutcase.
I'm willing to accept her story-- that she had injured that part of her back & being-touched by Silverman on that spot triggered a PTSD reaction. And when she went to her therapist seeking help-- still in a vulnerable state-- the expert's advice magnified her sense of being-harmed... diagnosing it as an example of Grooming By The The Rape Culture Patriarchy, or whatever. Munchhausen by Feminism, I'd call it.

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screwtape wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:36 am
Not wearing smartypants, and not much energy, but the following are clear:
-you will lose weight, presumably down to a new set point which will depend on exercise level.
-cholesterol numbers will improve, not worsen. Unknown if this actually means less arteriopathy.
-other long term effects unknown as no long term (decades) studies done. Only the Inuit leading pre-contact lives would know, if we had records and if they hadn't kept dying of other things.

I'd take a harm-reduction approach. Maybe the diet isn't perfect and will be shown to cause something nasty after years of use. But this might still be preferable to trying to survive as long with NIDDM and obesity. A practical problem is this: it's not an easy diet to stick with. The Inuit had no choice. Presumably pre-agricultural hunter gatherers relished the gathered part as often as they could. Carb cravings are intense and those carbs will be under your nose and on offer the whole time.

Now for some fun. We know peoples who have had generations of low carb diets (Inuit, Polynesian) are especially prone to being unable to cope with carbs when they get them, becoming very obese and diabetic. We know that the epigenome is altered by diet and the change is heritable for at least one generation with effects nearly gone in the second (Holland experience in WW2). Imagine someone eats a ketogenic diet all their life. Are their kids more likely to behave like Polynesians on carbs as a result, as their epigenomic inheritance includes a temporary naivety to carbohydrates?
Not so sure about the carb cravings. I had a forced stint of keto by dint of broken bone and limited shopping options. Main meal was generally a slab of meat, broccoli or veggie stir fry. I have to say that my ravenous appetite, particularly for carbs, disappeared and I had more energy. I thought the theory was that the ketogenic diet switched the metabolism to preferentially draw energy from fats rather than carbs, hence the reduction in carb craving. Rhonda Patrick is worth a listen on diet. She comes out with all manner of info about research into nutrition and the epigenetic effects of diet, temperature and exercise.

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Tulsi voted 'present' on impeachment. So Ocasio took at shot at Tulsi on Twitter.

AOC is constantly threatening to run primary opponents against establishment Dems... but AOC can't get-along with another renegade, either.

Watch out Ocasio. Kamala Harris didn't kill herself.

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Hunt wrote: Anyone here doing the "ketogenic" diet and/or interested in discussing the merits/evils of a fat based diet? Just wondering since there's so many smartypants here.

Seems there was a brief paroxysm of discussion here on this about year ago, but nothing since.
I dropped 45 lbs on keto-- 222 to 177-- in 6 months. For me, it was great-- I became viscerally aware of how my metabolism was operating, I had steady-energy-- not crashing.
At the time-- it was easy for me to eat tins of tuna or sardines... plus slices of cheese & microwaved frozen spinach & handfuls of nuts... butter-fried eggs, frozen salmon-burger patties or beef patties... eating 'ingredients' rather than 'dishes'. And single-serving containers of 'Muscle Milk' from the corner gas station-- as a late-night snack.

But now I live with someone who shops & pays for our food & cooks daily... so I'm off keto & am back around 220 lbs. I don't know how to integrate it with 'normal' eating routines. I'm sure others found a way, tho.

Some details, from back then: http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php ... 47#p359747

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:40 am
screwtape wrote: We know that the epigenome is altered by diet and the change is heritable for at least one generation with effects nearly gone in the second (Holland experience in WW2).
The Dutch Winter Hunger of 1944 -1945 has been widely misused as evidence by anti-darwinians like Massimo Pigliucci and that biology teacher from Minnesota. If the mother conceived up to three months before she suffered starvation, her child grew up to be of normal weight. If, otoh, she conceived while starving, but during the pregnancy again received adequate nutrition, her child still grew up to be of below normal weight. It's often falsely argued that the fetus inherited the epigenetic 'markers' from its starving mother, rather than acquiring them on its own in utero.
cf:
https://jamesclear.com/wp-content/uploa ... r-life.pdf


NB: indication that starvation of the mother at any point nevertheless led to multiple adult health issues for the fetus:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16876341


Whether epigenetic markers are inheritable even one generation is still in question. These pro-epi researchers review several studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4157403/

From my cursory glance, I see the several studies dismiss possible confounding factors [i.e., study on stress among holocaust survivor families], depend on correlation-equals-causation assumptions, but offer no putative mechanism for inheritance other than an inchoate "transmissible ‘memory’". I'd take a closer look, but my horses are standing outside my door asking whether I plan on conducting a starvation experiment on them.
It doesn't really matter that much if epigenetic changes are heritable because without mutation the genes are still limited as to how they can express. I don't see how something like speciation is possible without actual mutation. TBH I thought epigenetic changes had been shown to be heritable. What happens to pigs when they go feral? Is that not an example. It doesn't matter though, because a pig is still a pig until something (or lots of somethings) mutates. It can lose it's feral attributes as quickly as it gained them. That's my lay view and TBH I don't know what they are all arguing about because I haven't heard a plausible explanation of how the genes involved in these epigenetic changes came to be without Darwinian evolution.

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Pitchguest wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
He barely brushed against her-- while frothing with creepy desire-- and delusions of grandeur.
I followed the patheos link that windy put up about about Silverman versus the Tornado Woman last week to a nearly-two-hour podcast from the 'touched' woman. (and another 45 minutes the next day) which she scatted far and wide into the pod-o-sphere.

Two minutes was quite enough for me, though ... https://overcast.fm/+UnyZKNgdg
So he DIDN'T caress her, like she said originally. Caress and touch are two very different words and have two very different connotations.

A single touch triggered her "really hard" and that triggering went on for several hours? No wonder Silverman apologised, she's a fucking nutcase.
Haha. Yeah... the bitches now have so much control over human interactions that "inappropriate touching" is equated to rape. My wife and daughter went off on me last night while we were watching Survivor. It's a long story... but basically, a older guy got kicked off the show for non-sexual touching. The show bent its knee to the Metoo movement. The players on the show actually admitted to lying about being "harassed" to get Dan kicked off the show.... but ... the show had a special interview with the woman that made the exaggerated accusation and she gave the "I will stand up for all women speech." I thought the whole scam was so obvious that my wife and daughter would see the truth... but no.....

So.... I made the mistake of defending the guy basically saying that he really didn't do much. My wife snapped into her experience being sexually assaulted when she was 15. and in my defense I said.... "You were raped.... this guy rubbed someone's back." That was a fucking mistake. She went off screaming about me always defending rapists who shove fingers up people's asses and.... wow... just wow. People really just can't be rational about this topic.

So many women are just fucking nuts. I mean... I know some men who are also nuts... but.... it's like a 10:1 ratio or something. In a way I should feel sorry for them... but I get tired of having to lie all the time so their fee-fees don't get hurt... and I get tired of getting my chops busted for no reason. I am also 100% done with pretty women manipulating their way through life.

I would be happier if I only saw my wife about once ever three days. Maybe I just have to get out more. I honestly think she has been bullshit testing me. This is a tactic that people use to see how far they can push their partner. They make outrageous requests just to test how far they can go. Another thing yesterday was her complaining she was cold...She Says: "I'm so cold... it's cold in here!" and I said: "the thermostat is the same as it has been for three weeks.... but it's cold outside so it gets drafty in here." So she yells: "If you weren't so cheap you would stop turning down the heat." and I'm like: "I haven't touched the thermostat in three weeks... there ... it is right there on the wall... set it any way you want! you usually complain that you are too hot!" What the fuck bitch!

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Service Dog wrote: Tulsi voted 'present' on impeachment. So Ocasio took at shot at Tulsi on Twitter.

AOC is constantly threatening to run primary opponents against establishment Dems... but AOC can't get-along with another renegade, either.

Watch out Ocasio. Kamala Harris didn't kill herself.

https://i.imgur.com/hghWVAp.jpg?1
:lol:

Somebody should primary that commie bitch.
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