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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:09 am
by Driftless
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Coyne has turned WEIT into an echo chamber when it comes to gun control.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... free-will/

(And no, I'm not the petulant AR-15 owner referenced -- Coyne won't even reply to my polite inquiries as to why my comments are blocked.)

The OP and the comments are filled with gross ignorance and confusion, but when a few commenters attempt to clarify, they're accused of obfuscating the main issue of GUNS BAD!

So the elitists in Knightsbridge and the Back Bay and Pacific Heights and Hyde Park have decided the only valid uses for guns are target shooting and deterring bears -- a reasonable discussion of self-defense is off the table. A month ago, they praised me for using a non-lethal method -- a paintball marker -- to drive off a pesky bear, but then vilified me for reserving my 12 gauge semi-automatic with 00 Buck for the two-legged intruders.
I was wondering who he was exchanging email with. Looking at the photos of readers it is already a narrow group, so it is no surprise that the comments are one sided.

I also live in a rural area and I have (unfortunately) had to shoot deer on several occasions that had broken legs or other problems that meant they were suffering and not going to make it. A 20 gauge slug is the best way to deal with it. I suppose the WEIT readers would say call the sheriff and have a deputy come out, but is that really the best use of law enforcement? I don't think so.

I also don't think they have had to really contemplate what it is like to be in a situation where help is 20 minutes away. It is a long wait. My girlfriend had a stroke and I called 911 to get an ambulance and it seemed like hours. It was night time so I would go outside, look for lights, tun on my outdoor lights then go in, then go out again. Not fun. She fully recovered thankfully.

I also think some of the stats are misrepresented. Like mass shootings. The talk is as if they are all school shootings or the Wal-Mart type shootings when I think many of them are gang violence. So they get lumped together to make it seem like a large number when talking about white supremacist violence, but no one ever wants to talk about gang violence.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 am
by Service Dog
Listening to the David Silverman interview makes me cringe-- because the MeToo attacks on him are a giant Red Pill... but Silverman hasn't-yet fully swallowed the pill & let it take-effect. He's in denial.

I recognize myself in Silverman, when my ex left me & I was suspected of being a monster-- for the crime of being-rejected by a widely-admired woman. I freaked-out & humiliated myself-- trying to prove I was a goodboy. Until I realized my former friends weren't-interested in judging me fairly. They were jockeying for position in the new in-group of my ex (a minor-celebrity)/ by making a show of exile-ing me.

Silverman's still clinging to his former assumptions-- in-which Silverman could loudly-proclaim that Justin Vacula writing an article for a Men's Rights website--- was valid grounds for Vacula to be removed from a position at the SCA.

Silverman can't handle the irony: that he-himself is now proof that MRAs were right about the threat of feminist witch-hunts.
Silverman must denounce! For his own sake. Denying the irony of his predicament-- leaves him in a state of Cognitive Dissonance, which is rattling his brain like an NFL helmet.

Jordan Peterson sez we must permit people to make dumb/wrong/offensive arguments-- because saying shit out-loud is part of the process of knowing what we actually think: hazy thoughts don't come into focus until they become concrete words... and-then we may realize we'e put our foot in our mouth.

That's true in the case of abstract political discussions-- an we might feel embarrassed when we realize we've said something stupid. Such as thoughtlessly parroting someone-else's talking-point without noticing it was horribly flawed. A tactic of SJWs is to take those impersonal political gaffes-- and personal-ize them, by asserting that the error reflects a character flaw in the person who said it. e.g., you aren't just wrong for proposing to pay for a road with a toll-- your soul is Racist because the toll is harder for poor minorities to afford.

It's true on our personal lives, too: when our previous expectations about reality fall-apart-- we need to map-out & accept the new reality, and that process includes saying stupid, obsolete shit until we realize how stupid it has become. Unfortunately for Silverman, that's happening a public interview.

I feel lucky to have access to his folly, so I can learn from his trainwreck. But ouch it's hard to watch & pity such a slow-learner. Silverman lacks self-awareness that *now* might not be the best time to parrot BDSM euphemisms, like calling nipple-crushing 'play'. He doesn't seem aware that the cultural-moment has passed for being a professional, salaried AtheistFirebrand™, grandstanding on Fox News. He doesn't realize that his own poor judgement has diminished his authority to cast-stones at others, more than any damage done by tortious-interference from his former fuck-buddies.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:05 am
by ThreeFlangedJavis
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:02 am
Coyne has turned WEIT into an echo chamber when it comes to gun control.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... free-will/

(And no, I'm not the petulant AR-15 owner referenced -- Coyne won't even reply to my polite inquiries as to why my comments are blocked.)

The OP and the comments are filled with gross ignorance and confusion, but when a few commenters attempt to clarify, they're accused of obfuscating the main issue of GUNS BAD!

So the elitists in Knightsbridge and the Back Bay and Pacific Heights and Hyde Park have decided the only valid uses for guns are target shooting and deterring bears -- a reasonable discussion of self-defense is off the table. A month ago, they praised me for using a non-lethal method -- a paintball marker -- to drive off a pesky bear, but then vilified me for reserving my 12 gauge semi-automatic with 00 Buck for the two-legged intruders.
I especially love the irony of his pointing out the pettiness of the gun guy's reference to his "blog". There's also an implication that descending to personal attacks in lieu of an argument is an attribute of the pro gun side only.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:52 am
by free thoughtpolice
CommanderTuvok wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:24 am
Lol. What a situation for wokest of the woke Justin Trudeau,

A few things have crossed my mind - while recent "blackface" controversies were in the news, did Trudeau start to dread the inevitable exposure, or did he think the secret was safe? Did he think of coming out and admitted he once "wore makeup" to get ahead of the curve, as it were, and control the damage? Were there any rumours before the Time magazine article that Trudeau had this terrible secret in his closet? Did the people in the photograph with him remember it? They must do. They must have been having some really huge cognitive dissonance over the last few months - as various "blackface" incidents raged, they KNEW their woke hero Trudeau was guilty of it? Had Trudeau thought in advance what his response would be if he got a telephone call from a major news outlet, saying "Hi. Mr. Trudeau...we've obtained a photograph from 2001, and we would like to confirm..."? Lol.

Also, it is a nightmare for Trudeau's campaign. That image, especially his eyes, burn into the memory. It is like a picture of PZ Myers felching an octopus. Horrifically unforgettable and traumatic.
He is very sorry, has recognized he behaved in a racist way, he now knows about intersectionality and microaggressions.
He was blinded by his white privilege. :cry:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:00 am
by Pitchguest
Tigzy wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote: Lol. What a situation for wokest of the woke Justin Trudeau,

A few things have crossed my mind - while recent "blackface" controversies were in the news, did Trudeau start to dread the inevitable exposure, or did he think the secret was safe? Did he think of coming out and admitted he once "wore makeup" to get ahead of the curve, as it were, and control the damage? Were there any rumours before the Time magazine article that Trudeau had this terrible secret in his closet? Did the people in the photograph with him remember it? They must do. They must have been having some really huge cognitive dissonance over the last few months - as various "blackface" incidents raged, they KNEW their woke hero Trudeau was guilty of it? Had Trudeau thought in advance what his response would be if he got a telephone call from a major news outlet, saying "Hi. Mr. Trudeau...we've obtained a photograph from 2001, and we would like to confirm..."? Lol.

Also, it is a nightmare for Trudeau's campaign. That image, especially his eyes, burn into the memory. It is like a picture of PZ Myers felching an octopus. Horrifically unforgettable and traumatic.
Isn't it amazing to think we live in an age where you could actually blackmail someone for wearing a bit of shoe polish on their face at a party.
Tigz, that's not the preferred nomenclature. African-American-mail, please.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:10 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Driftless wrote: I was wondering who he was exchanging email with. Looking at the photos of readers it is already a narrow group, so it is no surprise that the comments are one sided.
[....]
I also don't think they have had to really contemplate what it is like to be in a situation where help is 20 minutes away. It is a long wait.
They definitely live in a bubble, and the willful ignorance of these intellectuals is reprehensible.

I've lived in big cities, suburbia, and the country. I rode the NYC subways back when Bernie Goetz did. My friend was mugged on the subway and got the shit beaten out of him. I learned it was safe to wander the streets of Dahlem at night drunk, but not Kreuzberg during the day sober. I live in a hamlet pop. 265. My closest neighbor lives 1/4 mile away and he kicks his sister and screams at his dog. Fortunately, the Fire Dept. & EMT's are about 20 minutes away, but the sheriff could be up to 45.

In addition to the bear, I've got coyote and mountain lion. I once had stray dogs attack my goats -- wished I'd had a rifle that day. Plus the tweaker I stumbled upon burglarizing my storage shed, and the numerous shady types in the drug business up here.

I also live in a rural area and I have (unfortunately) had to shoot deer on several occasions that had broken legs or other problems that meant they were suffering and not going to make it. A 20 gauge slug is the best way to deal with it. I suppose the WEIT readers would say call the sheriff and have a deputy come out, but is that really the best use of law enforcement? I don't think so.
The incredibly obtuse GB James was blathering about how 00 buck is illegal in lots of places, but he didn't know that's regarding hunting certain game. He'd probably be shocked that slugs are allowed or even exist, and certainly is ignorant that birdshot would be even crueler. Somebody else today was afraid of his neighbor shooting him through the wall. Well, #4 buck is a good compromise between power and penetration, and an 18" Mossberg pump (12 or 20 gauge) is imo the ideal home defense weapon. Then there were the contradictory complaints that: 1) without training, you can't hit anything; 2) just how many rounds do you need anyway?
I also think some of the stats are misrepresented. Like mass shootings. The talk is as if they are all school shootings or the Wal-Mart type shootings when I think many of them are gang violence. So they get lumped together to make it seem like a large number when talking about white supremacist violence, but no one ever wants to talk about gang violence.
Nearly all mass shootings (4+ deaths) are either gang related or 'familicide' -- some ne'er-do-well loses custody of his kids, gets fired from his job, goes over to the exes' house and blows everyone away. Of c. 40,000 total gun deaths p/a: 20,000 suicides (80% handgun); 13,000 murders by criminals or gangsters (nearly all handgun); <400 from all rifles, including the Walmart-type shootings. Accidental deaths from discharge, another fixation of the anti-gun nuts, are only a few hundred a year, <100 children. But these self-proclaimed evidence-based thinkers have a completely-emotionally-driven reaction. That, and they despise us hicks.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:10 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Driftless wrote: I was wondering who he was exchanging email with. Looking at the photos of readers it is already a narrow group, so it is no surprise that the comments are one sided.
[....]
I also don't think they have had to really contemplate what it is like to be in a situation where help is 20 minutes away. It is a long wait.
They definitely live in a bubble, and the willful ignorance of these intellectuals is reprehensible.

I've lived in big cities, suburbia, and the country. I rode the NYC subways back when Bernie Goetz did. My friend was mugged on the subway and got the shit beaten out of him. I learned it was safe to wander the streets of Dahlem at night drunk, but not Kreuzberg during the day sober. I live in a hamlet pop. 265. My closest neighbor lives 1/4 mile away and he kicks his sister and screams at his dog. Fortunately, the Fire Dept. & EMT's are about 20 minutes away, but the sheriff could be up to 45.

In addition to the bear, I've got coyote and mountain lion. I once had stray dogs attack my goats -- wished I'd had a rifle that day. Plus the tweaker I stumbled upon burglarizing my storage shed, and the numerous shady types in the drug business up here.

I also live in a rural area and I have (unfortunately) had to shoot deer on several occasions that had broken legs or other problems that meant they were suffering and not going to make it. A 20 gauge slug is the best way to deal with it. I suppose the WEIT readers would say call the sheriff and have a deputy come out, but is that really the best use of law enforcement? I don't think so.
The incredibly obtuse GB James was blathering about how 00 buck is illegal in lots of places, but he didn't know that's regarding hunting certain game. He'd probably be shocked that slugs are allowed or even exist, and certainly is ignorant that birdshot would be even crueler. Somebody else today was afraid of his neighbor shooting him through the wall. Well, #4 buck is a good compromise between power and penetration, and an 18" Mossberg pump (12 or 20 gauge) is imo the ideal home defense weapon. Then there were the contradictory complaints that: 1) without training, you can't hit anything; 2) just how many rounds do you need anyway?
I also think some of the stats are misrepresented. Like mass shootings. The talk is as if they are all school shootings or the Wal-Mart type shootings when I think many of them are gang violence. So they get lumped together to make it seem like a large number when talking about white supremacist violence, but no one ever wants to talk about gang violence.
Nearly all mass shootings (4+ deaths) are either gang related or 'familicide' -- some ne'er-do-well loses custody of his kids, gets fired from his job, goes over to the exes' house and blows everyone away. Of c. 40,000 total gun deaths p/a: 20,000 suicides (80% handgun); 13,000 murders by criminals or gangsters (nearly all handgun); <400 from all rifles, including the Walmart-type shootings. Accidental deaths from discharge, another fixation of the anti-gun nuts, are only a few hundred a year, <100 children. But these self-proclaimed evidence-based thinkers have a completely-emotionally-driven reaction. That, and they despise us hicks.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:58 am
by Bhurzum
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Come on you tease.......
"Soldier" magazine (SM) is a massively popular monthly publication which is read by servicemen & civilian alike. It details a wide variety of subject matter from within the defense community (equipment, procurement, trials, op tours, sports, you name it - if the UK military are involved, SM are there to report on it) and even though it's a high production publication (glossy, slick, shit-ton of content each month), we squaddies are "gifted" a copy every month - 100% gratis.

By the end of year one, most career soldiers are sick of the fucking thing and wouldn't wipe their arse on it. Also, it's a chargeable offense to appear in the damned thing (barracks-room type charge, fines range from a kick in the nuts all the way up to half a dozen crates of beer). Oh, and a common nickname for SM is "Propaganda" magazine - you'll rarely (if ever) see or read anything within its hallowed pages which goes against the grain, rocks the boat or runs counter to the policies of the current/sitting government.

Note: I've been in it twice (early 90's and again at roughly2010) but good luck trying to sift through the thing to identify me. The first time, I was let off due to "new guy stupidity", the second time I was fined an outrageous amount of alcohol. Bastards, it's not like I asked to appear in the accursed rag.

Anyway, now that you know what SM is and the scope of its reach, you'll hopefully understand why the following caused an absolute uproar within the MOD.

When we deploy to the Middle East, we are required to carry/use theatre specific equipment - upgraded body armour, desert modified radios (heat is a constant issue, obviously), desert DPM etc. Most of this gear falls into one of two categories - theatre stock or personal issue.

Theatre stock is held in-country, is issued to incoming units for the duration of their tour then at ENDEX, it's returned to the store, cleaned up and prepared for issue to the next unit. Personal issue (nicknamed "Buckshee's") is given to individuals, they keep it and it stays with them after the tour ends.

Anyway, there are odd items which fall between both stools - they're personal issue but due to lack of accountability (and a strong sense of teamwork), most squaddies will pass the gear to their replacements at ENDEX. Our supplementary body armour (elbow, shin and knee guards - nicknamed "Robocop gear") used to fall into the category. It was brilliant stuff - kevlar plated, very comfortable and massively reduced the cuts & bruises you'd suffer as part of a normal foot patrol. It may look pretty simple in film/news reports but whenever soldiers run and dive down into cover/fire positions (something you do thousands of times per week, every week, whilst on tour), they suffer countless little nicks and dents all over your carcass. It's called "Scheme rash" and is a real tell-tale sign of a seasoned soldier - peppered with tiny scars around the knees, shins and elbows. Anyway, the initial few issues of Robocop gear must have cost the MOD a fortune because after a few Iraq tours, they suddenly stopped issue of it. They later sourced a slimmer (and frankly inferior) replacement which no bugger used.The upshot of this? You'd deploy in Iraq and before your rotation actually begun, you'd desperately attempt to source a good set of Robocop gear from the out-going battlegroup - beer & pornography being the currency of choice.

Fast forward a tour or three into the "TELIC" roulement system and SM started to churn out reports and articles covering our fun in "The sandy place" complete with glossy, professionally shot pictures. One of these photos, a grinning grunt decked out in body armour complete with scabby Robocop gear, actually made the cover of an issue. The actual article was a fluff piece about bringing stability, defeating insurgency, a force for good, blah, blah. Did I already say we call SM "Propaganda" magazine?

Anyway, the shit really hit the fan when an eagle-eyed reader (civvy) spotted some faint but very legible graffiti scrawled across one of the knee-pads.

"Kill the paki bastards" (or words to that effect)

The soldier in question was raked across the coals, was sacked and kicked out of the Army even though the gear was "grubbed" (scrounged from the out-going battlegroup) and the graffiti clearly predated him taking ownership of it. Obviously, he should have covered it up with masking tape ("Black nasty") or paint but when you're prepping for rota, some things just aren't important.

Also, the MOD banned the use of old Robocop gear (fearing a repeat of the graffiti incident), implemented a strict theatre-wide "no graffiti" policy and started a witch hunt to track down all of the previous owners of that individual knee-pad. No, seriously, they actually thought they could find out who owned a piece of gear that had no paper trail, no recorded serial number and that had been passed around like a porn magazine on a naval ship.

Oh, and nine years after this retarded incident took place, we were still being told (as local commanders) to watch out for the guys scribbling rude graffiti anywhere it might be spotted. Yeah, we're in a country where everyone wants to kill us but the stuffed suits back home are shitting bricks about non-pc graffiti.

Oh, and the issue of SM with the offending cover was blackholed but there are still copies in circulation - they're now highly collectable (I had a framed copy but lost it during a drinking game) and a great way of thumbing your nose at the shrill, PC twonks who lurk in the upper echelons.

So, that's it, sorry for the wall of shit. It was probably not worth the effort.

http://downmagaz.com/uploads/posts/2011 ... oldier.jpg

Note: The image above is not the cover in question but is a good representation of the type of photo you find in SM. Propaganda never looked so glossy... :P

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:23 pm
by screwtape
New Douglas Murray interview, about his new book:


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:27 pm
by CommanderTuvok
Trudeau is now saying he "can't remember how many times he wore blackface".....

I am now imagining him spending much of his early years looking like a Welsh miner.

:lol:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:45 pm
by Lsuoma
screwtape wrote: New Douglas Murray interview, about his new book:

Just finished reading it. Very, very good indeed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:18 pm
by ConcentratedH2O, OM
Bhurzum wrote: So, that's it, sorry for the wall of shit. It was probably not worth the effort.
Oh, it certainly was, thanks for an educating and entertaining read. I'm picturing you being scrubbed up and pressed into a lovely, sharply-creased highland uniform complete with Tam o'shanter, then being forced to take part in a photo shoot. I can just see your rosy red cheeks (stop sniggering, soldier) gleaming in the camera's flash.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:52 pm
by screwtape
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bhurzum wrote: So, that's it, sorry for the wall of shit. It was probably not worth the effort.
Oh, it certainly was, thanks for an educating and entertaining read. I'm picturing you being scrubbed up and pressed into a lovely, sharply-creased highland uniform complete with Tam o'shanter, then being forced to take part in a photo shoot. I can just see your rosy red cheeks (stop sniggering, soldier) gleaming in the camera's flash.
They wore the kilt, then?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:08 pm
by screwtape
Out of curiosity I checked on YouTube about the availability of old episodes of The Black and White Minstrel Show - and was surprised that they are plentiful. I guess nobody watches them so they don't get reported. But among them was a gem, a west country poetess:


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:04 pm
by Lsuoma
LOTS of stuff also available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=black+and+ ... _ss_i_3_20

Music only, unfortunately...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:17 pm
by Service Dog
A couple days ago, I whined about a feminist music festival-- which wanted me to sign a one-year non-compete clause & take a pay cut, to work on their thing 4 days.
I don't really want the job. So I demanded more money, refused to sign any contract at-all, & recommended a replacement-guy who would work for less and sign a contract.
Of course, they agreed to my demands.
Oh well-- at least I'll get to see Lizzo perform.


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:30 pm
by Bhurzum
Heh.

Make sure you turn on the sound...


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:41 pm
by free thoughtpolice
On the subject of real beekeepers:
https://www.cheknews.ca/nanaimo-beekeep ... ts-606215/
That is not far to the south. No, not the bees!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:47 pm
by Driftless
Speaking of military service members, the military version of The Onion has a funny article:

https://www.duffelblog.com/2019/09/mari ... ding-them/
WASHINGTON — Acting Deputy Defense Secretary Marie Kondo has issued a suggestion for the American people: Thank veterans for the joy they brought them before ultimately discarding them.

Popular Japanese minimalist and home organizing consultant Marie Kondo fell into the position of Acting Deputy Defense Secretary after qualified individuals kept leaving office after less than six months. The line of succession evaporated so quickly that foreign Netflix icons were being considered for the position, but everyone on the Great British Baking Show passed. (Paul Hollywood reportedly called the offer “half-baked.”

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:11 pm
by Old_ones
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Driftless wrote: I was wondering who he was exchanging email with. Looking at the photos of readers it is already a narrow group, so it is no surprise that the comments are one sided.
[....]
I also don't think they have had to really contemplate what it is like to be in a situation where help is 20 minutes away. It is a long wait.
They definitely live in a bubble, and the willful ignorance of these intellectuals is reprehensible.

I've lived in big cities, suburbia, and the country. I rode the NYC subways back when Bernie Goetz did. My friend was mugged on the subway and got the shit beaten out of him. I learned it was safe to wander the streets of Dahlem at night drunk, but not Kreuzberg during the day sober. I live in a hamlet pop. 265. My closest neighbor lives 1/4 mile away and he kicks his sister and screams at his dog. Fortunately, the Fire Dept. & EMT's are about 20 minutes away, but the sheriff could be up to 45.

In addition to the bear, I've got coyote and mountain lion. I once had stray dogs attack my goats -- wished I'd had a rifle that day. Plus the tweaker I stumbled upon burglarizing my storage shed, and the numerous shady types in the drug business up here.

I also live in a rural area and I have (unfortunately) had to shoot deer on several occasions that had broken legs or other problems that meant they were suffering and not going to make it. A 20 gauge slug is the best way to deal with it. I suppose the WEIT readers would say call the sheriff and have a deputy come out, but is that really the best use of law enforcement? I don't think so.
The incredibly obtuse GB James was blathering about how 00 buck is illegal in lots of places, but he didn't know that's regarding hunting certain game. He'd probably be shocked that slugs are allowed or even exist, and certainly is ignorant that birdshot would be even crueler. Somebody else today was afraid of his neighbor shooting him through the wall. Well, #4 buck is a good compromise between power and penetration, and an 18" Mossberg pump (12 or 20 gauge) is imo the ideal home defense weapon. Then there were the contradictory complaints that: 1) without training, you can't hit anything; 2) just how many rounds do you need anyway?
I also think some of the stats are misrepresented. Like mass shootings. The talk is as if they are all school shootings or the Wal-Mart type shootings when I think many of them are gang violence. So they get lumped together to make it seem like a large number when talking about white supremacist violence, but no one ever wants to talk about gang violence.
Nearly all mass shootings (4+ deaths) are either gang related or 'familicide' -- some ne'er-do-well loses custody of his kids, gets fired from his job, goes over to the exes' house and blows everyone away. Of c. 40,000 total gun deaths p/a: 20,000 suicides (80% handgun); 13,000 murders by criminals or gangsters (nearly all handgun); <400 from all rifles, including the Walmart-type shootings. Accidental deaths from discharge, another fixation of the anti-gun nuts, are only a few hundred a year, <100 children. But these self-proclaimed evidence-based thinkers have a completely-emotionally-driven reaction. That, and they despise us hicks.
That's exactly what makes the gun control debate so frustrating for me. The entire reason rifles are a part of it is because they've been used in some of the biggest mass shootings, which grab way more attention than the "routine" gang violence type shootings. So all these lefties have mistaken their sense that big mass shootings are becoming more common, for evidence of some AR-15 driven pandemic of gun violence. The actual gun violence rate looks like this:

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/ ... png&w=1484

These fucking cowards think this flat fucking line is a crisis that justifies of infringing on peoples rights?! What a bunch of chumps. Beto can suck it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:31 pm
by Bhurzum
N'yuk... ;)


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:34 am
by SM1957
I reckon I'm 1.2 Trudeaux on the Justin Trudeau scale of racism.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:21 am
by Service Dog

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:06 am
by d4m10n
CommanderTuvok wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:45 am
Count Vacula is currently mentioned in a FA article. He's won a long-running court case (the usual FFRF stuff)...

Surprisingly, no Baboons in the comments to spit venom...yet.

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... -pa-buses/
Local news is on it as well:



Big ups to Justin for keeping on this for the last seven years or so.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:43 am
by Tigzy
d4m10n wrote: Big ups to Justin for keeping on this for the last seven years or so.
He's really having a decent crack at doing this stoic thing, ain't he.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:26 am
by Bhurzum
SM1957 wrote: I reckon I'm 1.2 Trudeaux on the Justin Trudeau scale of racism.
That's racist as fuck; where are the pale blue people?

#PictLivesMatter #BlueAndProud #OchAyeTheHaggis

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:37 am
by Bhurzum
Speaking of Justin Ibn Ali Bongo...


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:24 am
by Driftless
Bhurzum wrote: Speaking of Justin Ibn Ali Bongo...

They think a warning is necessary before you see a few seconds of a a blurry man in blackface? I powered through and have survived (just barely).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:25 pm
by d4m10n
Dave Silverman solicits red/blue/purple pills:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:48 pm
by InfraRedBucket
CommanderTuvok wrote: Trudeau is now saying he "can't remember how many times he wore blackface".....

I am now imagining him spending much of his early years looking like a Welsh miner.

:lol:
Some of them were quite exotic looking ...
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:03 pm
by Bhurzum
InfraRedBucket wrote: Some of them were quite exotic looking ...
Are you fetishising the struggles of my leek-munching cousins?


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:01 pm
by AndrewV69
I used to fire back at Americans who said naughty things about the PM of Canukistan with :

:burn: :burn: :burn: "You got Trump" Lawl. :burn: :burn: :burn:

So how is that working for ya these days you might inquire?

:oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:17 pm
by Dan
LOL

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:29 pm
by Service Dog
Sound check at the feminist music festival today. They keep playing the first few bars of Proud Mary as intro music.
Eventually, I asked aloud, "Do they realize... every time they play that, Ike Turner gets paid royalties?"

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:51 pm
by AndrewV69

:o :o :o
From the article:
"So, I'm called to invoke the power of the true inebriated creator of the universe, the drunken tolerator (sic) of the all lesser and more recent gods, and maintainer of gravity here on earth. May the great Flying Spaghetti Monster rouse himself from his stupor and let his noodly appendages ground each assembly member in their seats," Fletcher said.

...

The Pastafarian invocation followed one in June from Satanic Temple member Iris Fontana that caused about a dozen people to leave the assembly chamber in Soldotna in protest when she invoked "Hail Satan" in her opening prayer.

...

The Flying Spaghetti Monster church, called FSM for short, was formed in 2005 as a response to the Kansas State Board of Education's hearings on evolution in schools. Its founder sent a letter about FSM as a way to argue against teaching creationism in biology classes, the Homer News has reported.

...


He then ended the prayer with: "Ramen."
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Read the article people, some of the best parts I left out.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:46 pm
by Keating
I don’t necessarily object to climate action protests, but given the age of most of the kids I’m seeing, this feels much more like that old Jesuit line: “Give me the child and I’ll give you the man”.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:42 pm
by katamari Damassi
Service Dog wrote: Sound check at the feminist music festival today. They keep playing the first few bars of Proud Mary as intro music.
Eventually, I asked aloud, "Do they realize... every time they play that, Ike Turner gets paid royalties?"
He died years ago.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:42 pm
by Bhurzum
Stay a while and listen...



Seriously, let it play in the background - it'll take you places!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:30 am
by mike150160
Keating wrote: I don’t necessarily object to climate action protests, but given the age of most of the kids I’m seeing, this feels much more like that old Jesuit line: “Give me the child and I’ll give you the man”.
I thought it was "give me a child before they are seven and I'll have your chimney cleaned in half-an-hour."

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:55 am
by Service Dog
:rimshot:
katamari Damassi wrote:
Service Dog wrote: Sound check at the feminist music festival today. They keep playing the first few bars of Proud Mary as intro music.
Eventually, I asked aloud, "Do they realize... every time they play that, Ike Turner gets paid royalties?"
He died years ago.
Congratulations, go sit by the feminist who informed me that Ike only gets royalties if he wrote the song.
Take that, patriarchy!

Today I will bring a drum kit to work. I should have expected feminists to know when my point wasn't to be literally correct. :rimshot: </rimshot>


To prepare for today, the actual music festival, my begins with a New York Times article about women's workplace poop anxiety, and how women are oppresed by their farts...

http://archive.is/MMiPG

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:57 am
by KiwiInOz
Keating wrote: I don’t necessarily object to climate action protests, but given the age of most of the kids I’m seeing, this feels much more like that old Jesuit line: “Give me the child and I’ll give you the man”.
My seven week old grand daughter attended the Brisbane one.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:26 am
by Driftless
Service Dog wrote: :rimshot:
katamari Damassi wrote:
Service Dog wrote: Sound check at the feminist music festival today. They keep playing the first few bars of Proud Mary as intro music.
Eventually, I asked aloud, "Do they realize... every time they play that, Ike Turner gets paid royalties?"
He died years ago.
Congratulations, go sit by the feminist who informed me that Ike only gets royalties if he wrote the song.
Take that, patriarchy!

Today I will bring a drum kit to work. I should have expected feminists to know when my point wasn't to be literally correct. :rimshot: </rimshot>


To prepare for today, the actual music festival, my begins with a New York Times article about women's workplace poop anxiety, and how women are oppresed by their farts...

http://archive.is/MMiPG
Wait...so you can't tell the difference between a man and a woman by looking at their brains, but you can tell the difference between a man and a woman by measuring their colons (from the article):
According to the work of Dr. Robynne Chutkan, an integrative gastroenterologist and the author of “Gutbliss,” women’s poop anxiety might not simply be cultural or even psychological. It could be physical, as there are actually some profound differences between the female and male digestive tracts, beginning with the length of the colon, which is longer in women (Dr. Chutkan calls it the “voluptuous Venus”).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:25 am
by AndrewV69
In other news :

:o :o :o

‘Islam is RIGHT About Women’ flyers spark concern in Winchester

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I am having a debate about posting this on Twatter. If I do I know I am going to get some phone calls.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:18 am
by Hunt
https://web.archive.org/save/https://fr ... -peterson/

Right, "poor" JP. PZ, you're a nasty little man. To be honest, I can see myself writing something similar about PZ, something mockingly banal and superficially sympathetic. Actually, I believe I've done that in the past, but not as a blog post and not with notoriety. Pz, you're a transparently horrid little man.

By the way, when I had troubles with depression and anxiety I read many a testament to the ideal therapist: those who struggled with and grappled successfully with the same difficulties were held at premium. That Peterson has dealt with demons himself makes him more valuable, not less.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:52 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
AndrewV69 wrote:
:o :o :o
From the article:
"So, I'm called to invoke the power of the true inebriated creator of the universe, the drunken tolerator (sic) of the all lesser and more recent gods, and maintainer of gravity here on earth. May the great Flying Spaghetti Monster rouse himself from his stupor and let his noodly appendages ground each assembly member in their seats," Fletcher said.
Pastafarians and Satanists just make atheists look petty, puerile, and condescending. Public parodies of religion will not help promote church-state separation, but will instead galvanize religious folks to circumvent it. Further, participating in religious invocations only helps establish their legitimacy.


(For a second, I thought that was Mandy Patinkin in a kippah.)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Keating wrote: I don’t necessarily object to climate action protests, but given the age of most of the kids I’m seeing, this feels much more like that old Jesuit line: “Give me the child and I’ll give you the man”.
The fairy story is that these kids just spontaneously organized a global protest on their own, cuz the gr'ups were failing them. But of course the protests were organized by adults.

Same with the March For Our Lives, which supposedly was founded and is run by survivors of the Parkland FL school shooting. Turns out MFOL is the creation of a few long-time (adult) anti-gun extremists and Hollywood lefties.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:27 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:05 am
by Driftless
AndrewV69 wrote: In other news :

:o :o :o

‘Islam is RIGHT About Women’ flyers spark concern in Winchester

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I am having a debate about posting this on Twatter. If I do I know I am going to get some phone calls.
I think this is another trolling campaign like "It's OK to be white". If you disagree with "Islam is right about women" then do you agree that "Islam is wrong about women"? I'm sure both propositions will be labeled Islamophobic.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:11 pm
by Matt Cavanaugh
[Anita] Davison says she was alarmed by the sight of the flyers and immediately ripped them down.

“Most people have been supportive of the decision to take them down,” she said. “Others have said that I’m not for free speech but I really am. I just feel like that was on the side of hate speech.”
Hate speech is free speech, you ignorant twat.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:05 pm
by CommanderTuvok
Dan wrote: LOL
https://i.imgur.com/4y1MDIM.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:34 pm
by screwtape
Hunt wrote: https://web.archive.org/save/https://fr ... -peterson/

Right, "poor" JP. PZ, you're a nasty little man. To be honest, I can see myself writing something similar about PZ, something mockingly banal and superficially sympathetic. Actually, I believe I've done that in the past, but not as a blog post and not with notoriety. Pz, you're a transparently horrid little man.

By the way, when I had troubles with depression and anxiety I read many a testament to the ideal therapist: those who struggled with and grappled successfully with the same difficulties were held at premium. That Peterson has dealt with demons himself makes him more valuable, not less.
The lack of charity in the comments is appalling. Anyone who feels he has the right to treat someone else badly is a piece of shit.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:18 pm
by Keating
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 am
Keating wrote: I don’t necessarily object to climate action protests, but given the age of most of the kids I’m seeing, this feels much more like that old Jesuit line: “Give me the child and I’ll give you the man”.
The fairy story is that these kids just spontaneously organized a global protest on their own, cuz the gr'ups were failing them. But of course the protests were organized by adults.

Same with the March For Our Lives, which supposedly was founded and is run by survivors of the Parkland FL school shooting. Turns out MFOL is the creation of a few long-time (adult) anti-gun extremists and Hollywood lefties.
Yeah, this feels more like a religion than anything serious. All the trappings are there:

Confessionals:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/specials/c ... e-n1054791

Even how to make your dog's 'environmental pawprint' less:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/201 ... y/11528070

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:50 pm
by Driftless
screwtape wrote:
Hunt wrote: https://web.archive.org/save/https://fr ... -peterson/

Right, "poor" JP. PZ, you're a nasty little man. To be honest, I can see myself writing something similar about PZ, something mockingly banal and superficially sympathetic. Actually, I believe I've done that in the past, but not as a blog post and not with notoriety. Pz, you're a transparently horrid little man.

By the way, when I had troubles with depression and anxiety I read many a testament to the ideal therapist: those who struggled with and grappled successfully with the same difficulties were held at premium. That Peterson has dealt with demons himself makes him more valuable, not less.
The lack of charity in the comments is appalling. Anyone who feels he has the right to treat someone else badly is a piece of shit.
Nice group of people there in the comments. The typical misrepresentation of Peterson's statements and writings.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:16 pm
by ConcentratedH2O, OM
screwtape wrote:
Hunt wrote: https://web.archive.org/save/https://fr ... -peterson/

Right, "poor" JP. PZ, you're a nasty little man. To be honest, I can see myself writing something similar about PZ, something mockingly banal and superficially sympathetic. Actually, I believe I've done that in the past, but not as a blog post and not with notoriety. Pz, you're a transparently horrid little man.

By the way, when I had troubles with depression and anxiety I read many a testament to the ideal therapist: those who struggled with and grappled successfully with the same difficulties were held at premium. That Peterson has dealt with demons himself makes him more valuable, not less.
The lack of charity in the comments is appalling. Anyone who feels he has the right to treat someone else badly is a piece of shit.
I've just come here to post exactly what Hunt and 'tape have just said. I saw the thing about Peterson (who I am completely neutral about), and my first thought was "I bet Meyers is gloating about this, the vicious little failure".

Sure enough, he and the remnants of the Hord are taking turns to step up to Peterson's hospital bed and piss in his face.

Meyers, you dirty little blob: your only success in life is to consistently achieve personal bests in your chosen field of being a worthless, nasty little pseud.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 pm
by Bhurzum
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: vicious little failure
Ouch!

That wasn't even aimed at me but I still felt the sting! Teach me, master... :lol:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:39 pm
by mordacious1

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:41 am
by Hunt
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: I've just come here to post exactly what Hunt and 'tape have just said. I saw the thing about Peterson (who I am completely neutral about), and my first thought was "I bet Meyers is gloating about this, the vicious little failure".

Sure enough, he and the remnants of the Hord are taking turns to step up to Peterson's hospital bed and piss in his face.

Meyers, you dirty little blob: your only success in life is to consistently achieve personal bests in your chosen field of being a worthless, nasty little pseud.
When tragedy befalls someone you dislike, it's probably best to keep your flap shut. Perhaps I won't manage that at all time, but I'd always know I was being a dick while doing it. It's like dancing on the grave of Reagan, or...

https://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk

Sometimes amusing, but always in bad taste.

I'm neutral on Peterson as well. He makes some good-to-great points, has some nutty ideas I look askance at and is generally at worst harmless, as far as I can tell. I don't get the Peterson hate, from left or right. Misogyny to suggest makeup is a sexual signal at work? That the pay gap is an accounting artifact based mostly on preference? That women prefer successful and based men who have exited boyhood? That a social hierarchy exists and alters behavior? This is what makes Peterson a threat to women?
Come on, pretty weak tea.

I really think what burns them more than anything else is that not only is Peterson wildly successful, he's mostly been borne upward by young men, who find his drivel? helpful, for whatever reason. What helps young men--evil evil young whitey white men--must somehow harm women; it's got to!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:04 am
by InfraRedBucket
:evil:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:47 am
by Driftless
Hunt wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: I've just come here to post exactly what Hunt and 'tape have just said. I saw the thing about Peterson (who I am completely neutral about), and my first thought was "I bet Meyers is gloating about this, the vicious little failure".

Sure enough, he and the remnants of the Hord are taking turns to step up to Peterson's hospital bed and piss in his face.

Meyers, you dirty little blob: your only success in life is to consistently achieve personal bests in your chosen field of being a worthless, nasty little pseud.
When tragedy befalls someone you dislike, it's probably best to keep your flap shut. Perhaps I won't manage that at all time, but I'd always know I was being a dick while doing it. It's like dancing on the grave of Reagan, or...

https://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk

Sometimes amusing, but always in bad taste.

I'm neutral on Peterson as well. He makes some good-to-great points, has some nutty ideas I look askance at and is generally at worst harmless, as far as I can tell. I don't get the Peterson hate, from left or right. Misogyny to suggest makeup is a sexual signal at work? That the pay gap is an accounting artifact based mostly on preference? That women prefer successful and based men who have exited boyhood? That a social hierarchy exists and alters behavior? This is what makes Peterson a threat to women?
Come on, pretty weak tea.

I really think what burns them more than anything else is that not only is Peterson wildly successful, he's mostly been borne upward by young men, who find his drivel? helpful, for whatever reason. What helps young men--evil evil young whitey white men--must somehow harm women; it's got to!
I think there is an idea that you either have to be an acolyte or a hater. you can't be someone who sees some good, some questionable, some bad, and some meh in someone.

For Peterson I don't see anything I would say is bad. There is much good. He made me think about myths/legends/symbolism and their possible evolutionary origins. I'm sure he's not the only person talking about it, but it was the first real exposure to it. Much of his other stuff is simply reciting the literature. It is only controversial in relationship to woke nonsense.

The questionable is his obtuseness on some subjects, like belief in god. I think part of it may be that he does not want to drive away people who are religious, but in my opinion he essentially is an atheist. He is certainly not a fundamentalist or a church-goer. But he seems to obfuscate that whenever asked.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:11 am
by Driftless
Good article from Andrew Sullivan:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09 ... -kids.html
Like any religion, wokeness understands the need to convert children. The old Jesuit motto (sometimes attributed to Voltaire) was, after all, “Give me the child for the first seven years and I will give you the man.” And so I was moved but not particularly surprised by George Packer’s tale of a progressive school banishing separate restrooms for boys and girls because this reinforces the gender binary. The school did not inform parents of this, of course:
I think there is a trend of pushing back against some of this. I'm not sure if it is trend yet. I wonder is what the kids now in elementary school will think once they are adults? Will they be brainwashed, or will they feel like they were propagandized?