Hunt-- I think your point would be clearer-- if you framed it as 'fair weather' preferences, rather than 'in a perfect world' ideals. You make it sound like anyone who subscribes-to any values-- is lost chasing a hopeless utopia, doomed to become a hypocrite. Rather than merely a state of deciding-to make compromises one would rather-not.
And some people do choose to be martyrs to a principle.
I agree, and yes, my examples are often hyperbolic. I've just noticed, over and over again, how readily so called idealistic commitments are compromised in the face of exigent reality, even at the highest level. (We all understand personal weakness.) Take a really banal example: George W Bush's utter capitulation to Keynesian economics (government stimulus) in the face of economic collapse.
And it goes both ways, as that example above illustrates. We all know the stereotypical right winger who thinks the libtard lives in la la land. But the right occupies its own fantasy island and drops its pretenses as readily as does the left when the going gets rough.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:39 am
by Service Dog
When I think of 'unwarranted fear', I think of a nerd in an elevator freaking-out over another nerd inviting her to enjoy late-night coffee.
Another unwarranted fear-- would be the fear of getting raped by non-feminists at an atheist convention. (Watch out for the feminists, tho!)
With this in mind, please enjoy ultra-conservative anti-sex activist Rebecca Watson telling you that baseless fears are a dumb-conservative thing.
At 3 & 1/2 minutes, she says "I know, I know, the irony..." and I actually thought she was going to be self-aware. Nope.
Also...
6m11s "blocking traffic" is totally ok. But 8m38s "inhibiting progress" is totally wrong. Got that?
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:56 am
by Service Dog
Now Rebecca, let's take the same concepts and apply them to Covid-19.
In the words of Rebecca Watson-- back in April-- "in a pandemic, doing the right thing is going to feel like an over-reaction. If you do the wrong thing, you're going to look back and regret that you didn't do enough." https://youtu.be/x4mKQxNLoyw?t=459
(Please don't apply that to riots, looting, arson, mob violence, and actual communist revolutionary insurrection, tho.)
Is Twatson still relevant? Full disclosure : When this whole business started I believed her.
Today my view is she lied. She was heading back to her hotel room alone and pissed off because she was not going to get an oil change.
So shortly after she made a video stating that she was still very fuckable.
That is all folks. A lot of fuss about nothing except for her fear that she was hitting the wall.
Whatever Man. Fuck (Die Antwood)
Even if you are wrong - it doesn't increase her relevancy (at least I'm hope not).
I think Service Dog was using her as an example of left wing opinion, and also appealing to the negative esteem most round these parts hold her in.
nb I'm all for PZ & Watson both finding a level of notoriety commensurate with their talent and the amount of work they are prepared to put in.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:23 pm
by Service Dog
BLM: you had One Job. Convince people you're the -victim- of police bullying...
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:24 pm
by MarcusAu
Speaking of...
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:32 pm
by Service Dog
Andrew is correct-- Watson is a footnote, these days.
She has recently posted videos with Ben Shapiro and Mikhaila Peterson's names in the titles-- obvious attempts to draw attention, via a reply from more-popular people.
Or again play victim, if Watson can bait their supporters into sending her nastygrams.
That virologist's name is Li-Meng Yan. I googled her name + EcoHealth ...the organization whose president free_thoughtpolice cited yesterday.
One result-- was a link detailing the claim that Covid-19 was manufactured by the CCP, with many commenters tying EcoHealth into the plot.
Pete Ross5/30/2020 05:56:29 am
To add or subtract from the mystery of SARS-2 (CoV2) origins are this series of tweets from Dr. Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance, recently deprived of NIH funding just last month.
NIH funding seems to be a small fraction of the Pentagon-associated Alliance, being all at once a private charity NGO , a global megacorporations' NGO and a defense contractor, with an annual estimated annual operating budget ranging from $16 to $99 million and biosafety laboratories in at least 30 countries.
EcoHealth Alliance is a spinff of the Rockefeller's WWF - World Wildlife Fund.
....
The Pandemic Century: One Hundred Years of Panic, Hysteria, ...books.google.co.il › books
For Daszak and his colleagues in the EcoHealth Alliance, the buzz generated by Disease X presented an opportunity to leverage additional funding for research ...
Mark Honigsbaum - 2019 - Medical
I have no opinion on the validity of such claims. At least the blog states it's claims in a clear manner. I'm just pointing-out that an elaborate conspiracy & attempted cover-up is being alleged, with figures and orgs we talked-about yesterday-- squarely in the center.
That virologist's name is Li-Meng Yan. I googled her name + EcoHealth ...the organization whose president free_thoughtpolice cited yesterday.
One result-- was a link detailing the claim that Covid-19 was manufactured by the CCP, with many commenters tying EcoHealth into the plot.
Pete Ross5/30/2020 05:56:29 am
To add or subtract from the mystery of SARS-2 (CoV2) origins are this series of tweets from Dr. Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance, recently deprived of NIH funding just last month.
NIH funding seems to be a small fraction of the Pentagon-associated Alliance, being all at once a private charity NGO , a global megacorporations' NGO and a defense contractor, with an annual estimated annual operating budget ranging from $16 to $99 million and biosafety laboratories in at least 30 countries.
EcoHealth Alliance is a spinff of the Rockefeller's WWF - World Wildlife Fund.
....
The Pandemic Century: One Hundred Years of Panic, Hysteria, ...books.google.co.il › books
For Daszak and his colleagues in the EcoHealth Alliance, the buzz generated by Disease X presented an opportunity to leverage additional funding for research ...
Mark Honigsbaum - 2019 - Medical
I have no opinion on the validity of such claims. At least the blog states it's claims in a clear manner. I'm just pointing-out that an elaborate conspiracy & attempted cover-up is being alleged, with figures and orgs we talked-about yesterday-- squarely in the center.
Certainly plausible that the Chin were dinking around with weaponizing bat virii for eventual use against the Yang, when some doofus broke their already shoddy containment protocol and let this one loose.
But of course even considering that possibility makes be a xenophobe and a tin-foil-hat nut, because c'mon man, China's not our enemy!
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:54 pm
by Hunt
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
when some doofus broke their already shoddy containment protocol and let this one loose.
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
View of my hills yesterday. It's the same this morning:
Caliornia_dreamin.JPG
I’m in San Jose. My weather app usually measures visibility in miles, today it is 1300 yards. Hopefully, it doesn’t get down to feet.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:04 am
by free thoughtpolice
Heavy smoke from fires in the US moved in to my area yesterday afternoon. It's forecast to blanket about half of British Columbia in the next few days.
There is a massive smoke cloud in the satellite shots. Amazing how far it has spreading.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:12 am
by Driftless
free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑
Heavy smoke from fires in the US moved in to my area yesterday afternoon. It's forecast to blanket about half of British Columbia in the next few days.
There is a massive smoke cloud in the satellite shots. Amazing how far it has spreading.
Even farther away:
Orange skies seen across Britain on Friday were caused by wildfires currently burning 5,000 miles away on the West Coast of America.
Let's check out their website. xrebellion.nyc @XR_NYC
"JOIN THE SEPTEMBER REBELLION
Climate breakdown, COVID-19, racial injustice – all are symptoms of a toxic system that is driving us to extinction. At the root of these threats to life are centuries of white supremacy, patriarchy, and colonialism—a pattern of treating the earth as a commodity and Black and brown lives as disposable.
It would be easy to sit back and despair because government has failed us. Politicians ignored the warnings about COVID-19 as they have denied the facts of the climate crisis. State-sanctioned violence against people of color continues while politicians fuel racism to gain votes. And powerful elites burn the planet for profit.
But everywhere you look, a collective rage is growing. People are pouring into the streets, taking back community control. Mass unemployment, uncertainty about schools reopening, a broken healthcare system, police violence - enough is enough. We have an opportunity NOW as we emerge from the pandemic to change the system. And we can do so together.
“Business-as-usual” is fighting to regain its hold, but we won’t let that happen. We. Will. Rebel. For life. For justice. For a future."
If those cunts want to do something about forest fires, they can drag their sorry asses out here and join the work crews clearing brush and performing proscribed burns. And for great exercise, nothing beats trudging around in heavy clothing, draped in gear, while flamethrowing about you in 105°weather.
Something tells me they'll stick to marching at a leisurely pace, then hitting the local kombucha bar to celebrate their victory over climate change.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:01 pm
by Matt Cavanaugh
The socialists and commies of the last century at least went to Spain.
Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be,
But half the bee has got to be, vis a vis, its entity (d'you see?)
But can a bee be said to be, or not to be an, entire bee
When half the bee is not a bee, due to some ancient injury.
If those cunts want to do something about forest fires, they can drag their sorry asses out here and join the work crews clearing brush and performing proscribed burns. And for great exercise, nothing beats trudging around in heavy clothing, draped in gear, while flamethrowing about you in 105°weather.
Something tells me they'll stick to marching at a leisurely pace, then hitting the local kombucha bar to celebrate their victory over climate change.
If only we could send Bruce Willis back in time to February, to convince Trump to not say the same things about the virus that the Dems were saying!
"Yippie ki yay, Cheeto Motherfucker."
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:45 am
by Pitchguest
To the people in the areas affected by the wildfires, stay safe, yeah? Please? :romance-grouphug:
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:51 am
by Hunt
Pitchguest wrote: ↑
To the people in the areas affected by the wildfires, stay safe, yeah? Please? :romance-grouphug:
My place in the Santa Cruz mountains was less than ten miles from the Big Basic lightning complex. So far I think it stands. I was there about fifteen years ago when a dry weather lighting storm came over and started about five fires. My neighbor had a direct hit to a fir tree in his back yard. Suddenly there were about ten tanker planes zooming here and there. It was like Pearl Harbor.
Anyway I'm a little fatalistic at this point. Sooner or later, it's all going to burn to the ground. It's a matter of global warming and the fact that a hundred years of fire management has left a ton of shit all over the forest floor. The redwoods don't really give a shit. It was amusing after they reentered Big Basin that news reporters said much of the old growth survived. No shit Sherlock. Anyone who has lived in redwoods has seen the recorded hundred years of carbon chars on them. Redwoods are designed to survive fires, redwood bark is naturally fire retardant. I'd go as much as to say they LIKE fires. What doesn't like fires are Chipboard Manner McMansions.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:53 am
by Hunt
But thanks PG, for the sentiment. How are you faring these days?
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:59 am
by Pitchguest
Hunt wrote: ↑
But thanks PG, for the sentiment. How are you faring these days?
It's alright, mate. I think I'm finally "done" mourning my dad's death, now it's just the longing that remains. Still, I'm working, I'm doing stuff, I'm back to shitposting online. I got my health. Cheers. :D
Is the sky dark red at your place, or just bright orange?
Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be,
But half the bee has got to be, vis a vis, its entity (d'you see?)
But can a bee be said to be, or not to be an, entire bee
When half the bee is not a bee, due to some ancient injury.
The study-- touted by Rebecca Watson-- which claimed that the Sturgis motorcycle rally was a massive superspreader event-- has been debunked from many directions:
--the study was not vetted by any medical journal, but published at the Journal of Labor Economics website
--the study's model was based on single high volume day of testing, extrapolating as-if that day's rate of new positive covid test results-- was ongoing.
--the study ignored the lack of change in South Dakota's covid death rate, post Sturgis; and the nationwide downturn in new covid cases post-Sturgis.
--the time-period examined by the study conveniently cut-off right-when the data began to contradict the study's claims.
--the study used cellphone data from Sturgis attendees to track the attendees back to their home counties. The study's model then compared the rate of new positive Covid tests in those counties, vs. the rate of new positive Covid tests in counties with no Sturgis attendees.
According to the Wall Street Journal, the model then 'went off the rails' by attributing 100% of the discrepancy between Sturgis-attending counties vs. non-Sturgis attending counties... to Sturgis attendance. Regardless of other factors-- such as whether the counties' rates of positive covid tests were already diverging-- Prior To Sturgis.
Additionally-- the higher number of positive tests in counties with Sturgis attendees-- is attributable to the large amount of publicity regarding Sturgis and Covid: Sturgis attendees were more likely to get tested than non-sturgis attendees... yielding more positive test results, vs. non-covid-attending populations which did not seek testing.
--Most of post-Sturgis positive tests were asymptomatic, or accompanied by minor symptoms. However the study assumed each positive test resulted in $46,000 of medical expenses-- for a grand total of $12.2 Billion in expenses.
I think I'm going to have to review my sources for medical advice.
The one quoted above seems to be be qualified to keep balls in the air - and very little else.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:43 pm
by MarcusAu
Speaking of Comicsgate - (the SJW entry-ism into corporate comicbook companies, and the associated kickback) - as we weren't...
I've not been reading Ethan van Sciver's Cyberfrog (the concept seems silly - and not in a 'Reid Flemming World's Toughest Milkman' kind of way). So, I'm wondering if any of the comics officianados around these parts read any of the current crop, or is their appreciation mainly out of nostalgia?
nb For those interested - I can recommend the short summaries from 'Strange Brain Parts' - example below - though he seems to be in the nostalgia camp based on recent comment that he stopped collecting over 10 years ago.
The end of the industry (ie Marvel & DC - and the ecosystem they sustain) has been predicted for over 40 years - but maybe they are finally going the way of the pulps.
Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be,
But half the bee has got to be, vis a vis, its entity (d'you see?)
But can a bee be said to be, or not to be an, entire bee
When half the bee is not a bee, due to some ancient injury.
Hunt wrote: ↑
But thanks PG, for the sentiment. How are you faring these days?
It's alright, mate. I think I'm finally "done" mourning my dad's death, now it's just the longing that remains. Still, I'm working, I'm doing stuff, I'm back to shitposting online. I got my health. Cheers. :D
Is the sky dark red at your place, or just bright orange?
I'm out of the state at the moment but I assume it's a nice apocalyptic orange. Last year, even with no fires in the immediate area it there was a dreadful haze everywhere. Quite unpleasant. I used to hate the onset of the rainy season, now it's a relief.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:56 pm
by Service Dog
GODFREY ELFWICK takes it to the Next Level
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:26 pm
by Matt Cavanaugh
I've had vertigo all day -- I was told it may due to the high CO2 content of the air and shallow breathing due to the air smelling like an ashtray.
Apparently the winds will switch to SW tomorrow, helping us Californians. Fuck Nevada.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:59 pm
by KiwiInOz
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
I've had vertigo all day -- I was told it may due to the high CO2 content of the air and shallow breathing due to the air smelling like an ashtray.
Apparently the winds will switch to SW tomorrow, helping us Californians. Fuck Nevada.
Bollocks. CO2 is an invisible, odourless, plant food. Don't give me your bleating.
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:57 pm
by Hunt
Pollution is just unprocessed fertilizer. Just as the Chinese.
Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be,
But half the bee has got to be, vis a vis, its entity (d'you see?)
But can a bee be said to be, or not to be an, entire bee
When half the bee is not a bee, due to some ancient injury.
La de da... te he he... Eric... the half-a-bee!!!!
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:49 am
by John D
Is this some sort of demi-bee... half asleep upon my knee? Some freak from a menagerie. No! It's Eric the half-a-bee. (yes.... I pulled this from my memory. haha.)
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:08 am
by Service Dog
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
I've had vertigo all day -- I was told it may due to the high CO2 content of the air and shallow breathing due to the air smelling like an ashtray.
Tangerine trees and marmalade skies
somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
rocking horse people head in the clouds
yellow and green Towering over your head
coming to take you away
Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:42 am
by MarcusAu
Bhurzum wrote: ↑
Some mad bugger has uploaded this classic #BLM movie to YT - catch it whilst you can!
You'll have to wait till the end to get the song performance.
As musicals go - I feel like they are not even trying.
