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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:29 pm
by Service Dog
A couple days ago I heard an interview on WBAI 99.5 FM-- the radio station is proudly lefty progressive and is stuck in the 1960's, 70's, 80's-- maybe the 1930's--

This interview was with a union guy. From his California voice, I pictured a Beto O'Rourke, but with long greasy hair. And his union is the Writer's Guild of America-- not-exactly Steelworkers. But they are a part of the AFL-CIO. I guess they aren't-just screenwriters-- but also online content writers now, too. So-- the guy made this statement about how the fundamental point of the labor movement is to support working-class people/ and police are contrary to that/ so the Writer's Guild is calling for the largest police union to be ejected from the AFL-CIO. There's some weak 'Code Of Excellence' which the leadership is advocating the cop unions to adopt.

I wasn't sure if kicking out the police union was an empty virtue signal, or if it might hurt the negotiating power of cop unions to make abusive deals. The AFL-CIO leadership rejected the demand-- saying the cops would stay-in. Some other scattered unions have taken action-- the Bus Driver's union says they will no longer transport prisoners for the justice system. That strikes me as legit. Apparently the first police union-- back in like 1890-- tried to join the AFL-- and were rejected because cops were considered to be union-busting tools of The Man.

Another twist is that the AFL-CIO headquarters were smashed-up in the looting, then boarded-up, then painted with big BLACK LIVES MATTER letters.
I don't know if the AFL-CIO are supposedly good-guys for the disinfranchised/ or bad-guys helping cops kill with impunity-- and I don't think they know either.

In addition to greasy-beto, some strident black woman was on the radio show-- and everything she said was in retro-vintage black-power cadence, sprinkled with gratuitious references to the Oversee-ers on plantations and White Supremacy. But she also was careful to say the police unions could still exist-- just not be part of the AFL-CIO: the union people want it both ways: they still want to claim unions are always doubleplusgood/ while also having beef with the cop unions.

About 7% of US workers are still unionized-- so they're always desperate to increase their numbers. Greasy Beto said the BLM protesters are young and fiery and radical and can bring new life to the union movement. Or poison it, if you ask me. He also talked about the Amazon package handlers who spontaneously walked-off & protested their working conditions during Covid. He said the AFL-CIO should have seized on that & helped them much more, and made that a big recruitment win. Yeah, ok, fair enough. But I bet they didnt want to be seen as exploiting Covid to price-gouge for selfish union benefit.

I was left wondering how crappy the AFL-CIO could be-- in response to the members wanting more action in favor of social change-- before Beto & the black revolutionary lady would stop seeing the union as part-of-the-solution, and... y'know.

Another tidbit was the claim that Trump's 2016 win was a wake-up-call for the AFL-CIO. They had lost the traditional aging white blue collar middle-american workers. So the AFL-CIO has since-focused on trying to get those whitey's back. But they've exclusively pursued that winning-back group-- not really making good use of anti-Trump sentiment to win the blacks and immigrants and young people-- into the labor movement.

I don't know how much unions matter, anymore. But at least they have an infrastructure-- a system of membership, establishing policy goals, elected leaders-- a coherent organization-- to develop & make demands... with Some connection to reality. As opposed to formless Antifa CHAZ-mobs & academics & looters & demonstrators with poorly-defined, untested levels of commitment to their cause.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:37 pm
by Service Dog
Democrats loooove to complain about 'private prisons' as-if the state-run prisons are excellent. In reality, the 'private prisons' complaint is a way to signal that prison guard unions won't be challenged by Democrats.

If the unions are serious about improving society-- they should oppose the Teacher's Unions too. Teacher's unions are to the kid's best interest-- what cop unions are to poor people's best interest.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:30 pm
by MarcusAu
Service Dog wrote: Democrats loooove to complain about 'private prisons' as-if the state-run prisons are excellent. In reality, the 'private prisons' complaint is a way to signal that prison guard unions won't be challenged by Democrats.

If the unions are serious about improving society-- they should oppose the Teacher's Unions too. Teacher's unions are to the kid's best interest-- what cop unions are to poor people's best interest.
What about the parent's best interest? ie a free baby-sitting service.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:36 pm
by MarcusAu
jugheadnaut wrote: I think that leaves Mel Brooks and Bob Newhart as the sole surviving comedians of the era. When they go, it will be extra sad because it will feel like the era of funny for funny's sake, socially conscious but non PC comedy has truly ended.
Ah well - we must stagger onward rejoicing - as W H Auden put it.

That or slit our throats before the dark forces of the secular apocalypse gain full control.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:31 am
by John D
Atheism-is-unstoppable just got yanked off Youtube. Devon Tracy is on Bitchute so I will find him there. I expect that I am getting close to using Bitchute to follow several people like Styx. Youtube is purging lots of stuff right now.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:47 am
by Service Dog
A famous choreographer-- I mean, famous within the world of Ballet and Broadway and Modernistic dance-- white, male, gay-- from the generation hit hardest by AIDS-- is now experiencing a trickle of woke racial-grievance complaints, from former dancers.

Remember touring the world together-- grueling airplane and bus rides, late nights in hotels, alcohol, weed, sweating & working together, creating art, laughing, getting paid to dance, applause, sex, flings, marriages, babies born, break-ups, having to work-together afterward, all the other interpersonal molehills? Well I very much don't now appreciate when you used to say 'whaaaas up my niggaaaa'.

Or the times-- in silly dances in the vein of John Waters or South Park-- when you cast everybody in farcical roles-- how dare you put a black man in a long blonde wig & make him the princess being rescued by the fat bumbling white prince, or whatever. In the 90's it was mildsauce-edgy subculture 'resistance', but now it's a hate crime!

His management is considering a big meeting-- staff, alums, associates-- part group-hug, part throwing himself at the mercy of the crowd, part explain-a-thon, part 'air all your grievances now... so we can put this behind us'. My advice: apologizing won't squash the issue. Because there's power in Withholding Forgiveness.

Staging a Truth & Reconciliation Commission on Racial complaints-- will quickly bleed into Sexual complaints. The corny sexual jokes an old faggot mades will be trotted-out as fresh horrors. And why weren't women given more pay or leading-man roles or less-revealing costumes?!
Ok-- so it will be Race + Feminism outrage. Maybe a bit of Trans, because yesterday's drag-queen you-go-girl is today's trans minstrel show.


One big problem: The guy has been a diva and a cunt. Sharp-tongued, short-tempered, haughty, grumpy. An imperfect mortal human. I don't think they can clear the air-- unless THAT is on the agenda.

Ok, yeah, some percentage of your outrage is from the time he said you should stand in the bright part of the stage-- because you'd be invisible in the dark part. But what percentage is from the time he-said you were wasting his time by not learning a dance step fast-enough, and if you didn't pull your head out of your ass, he'd have to give the role to someone-else? Or the time he made fun of your smelly socks.

Or your own choice to enter a profession where you spend decades of physical labor-- in order to literally audition before an all-powerful figure-- praying for approval, often overlooked, finally relieved to be picked, but forever relegated to being a nameless interchangable mannequin-- while his name is on the marquee.

And, by the way, were you ever petty shitty abusive stupid or more focussed on cocaine than work? And didn't he tolerate your suckitude, instead of firing you? Would you be better off if he took someone else to Tokyo, or to meet Obama, or if some other dancer's family got to watch their kid on PBS?

And if you finally get a chance to tell him-off... will you use your own thoughts & words & full spectrum of emotions... or will you recite a bunch of woke post-modernist academic outrage-jargon du jour/ an autistic ritual/ a one-note performance.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 am
by Bhurzum
John D wrote: Atheism-is-unstoppable just got yanked off Youtube. Devon Tracy is on Bitchute so I will find him there.
Well, if bitchute has a block/ban/mute function, Devon "Screeching snowflake" Tracy will be right at home. He may make some interesting content but for all his bluster and bravado, the guy is a simpering bitch who goes bat-shit mental at the slightest criticism.

He's like an edgy reflection of Steve Shives.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:31 am
by jugheadnaut
John D wrote: Atheism-is-unstoppable just got yanked off Youtube. Devon Tracy is on Bitchute so I will find him there. I expect that I am getting close to using Bitchute to follow several people like Styx. Youtube is purging lots of stuff right now.
Well that was a matter of not if but when. I'm surprised he wasn't in the original purge.

For those who want a little less Google in their lives, and less of their lives in Google, I switched a couple weeks ago to the new Chromium based Edge browser and the Bing search engine. Bing is every bit as good as Google Search now (had to give up on Duck Duck Go because it was slow and unreliable), and Edge is noticeably faster and much less of a memory hog than Chrome, while running Chrome plug-ins flawlessly. So the transition has been not just painless but beneficial. Would never have thought 10 years ago I would eventually trust Microsoft far more than Google when it came to privacy. Still don't trust them that much, though, and I'm doing all but my most vanilla browsing in Edge's privacy mode and behind a VPN.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:37 am
by Service Dog
Ignore the cheezy pornhub joke at the beginning... bathe in the While Fragility/ How To Be an Anti-Racist struggle session...


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:05 am
by ThreeFlangedJavis
jugheadnaut wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:31 am
John D wrote: Atheism-is-unstoppable just got yanked off Youtube. Devon Tracy is on Bitchute so I will find him there. I expect that I am getting close to using Bitchute to follow several people like Styx. Youtube is purging lots of stuff right now.
Well that was a matter of not if but when. I'm surprised he wasn't in the original purge.

For those who want a little less Google in their lives, and less of their lives in Google, I switched a couple weeks ago to the new Chromium based Edge browser and the Bing search engine. Bing is every bit as good as Google Search now (had to give up on Duck Duck Go because it was slow and unreliable), and Edge is noticeably faster and much less of a memory hog than Chrome, while running Chrome plug-ins flawlessly. So the transition has been not just painless but beneficial. Would never have thought 10 years ago I would eventually trust Microsoft far more than Google when it came to privacy. Still don't trust them that much, though, and I'm doing all but my most vanilla browsing in Edge's privacy mode and behind a VPN.
Why trust either of them? You may have noticed that pirating Windows is now much easier than it was with XP and they're trying to shift people from local accounts to MS accounts. Why do you think that is? I maintain a burning hatred for anything forced on me by Microsoft. If I could find a way to excise Edge from my installation with fire I would. I like my PC to be efficient and uncomplicated. Microsoft wants my PC to be as complex as fuck. Please just supply a barebones OS so I can decide what goes on my installation. Don't force Microsoft Store and a thousand other useless bits of dross on me. If I reboot my PC I have to wait at least five minutes for disk activity to drop below 100%. I've had to spend days resolving this issue so many times but MS always find a way to bring it back by sneaking in an update or upgrade. Things I thought I'd disabled re-appear. A Windows installation turns what could be a useful tool into an expensive electricity wasting device dedicated to updating itself. A very expensive brick.

Opensuse Tumbleweed XFCE. Magic.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:09 am
by Lsuoma
Now that Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested by the FBI, should we expect to see another in-jail "suicide" while on suicide watch, and accompanied by a mysterious failure of all the CCTV systems?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53268218

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:16 am
by Bhurzum
Lsuoma wrote: Now that Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested by the FBI, should we expect to see another in-jail "suicide" while on suicide watch, and accompanied by a mysterious failure of all the CCTV systems?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53268218
The memes are already starting to spawn...and they must flow!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:37 am
by jugheadnaut
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Why trust either of them? You may have noticed that pirating Windows is now much easier than it was with XP and they're trying to shift people from local accounts to MS accounts. Why do you think that is? I maintain a burning hatred for anything forced on me by Microsoft. If I could find a way to excise Edge from my installation with fire I would. I like my PC to be efficient and uncomplicated. Microsoft wants my PC to be as complex as fuck. Please just supply a barebones OS so I can decide what goes on my installation. Don't force Microsoft Store and a thousand other useless bits of dross on me. If I reboot my PC I have to wait at least five minutes for disk activity to drop below 100%. I've had to spend days resolving this issue so many times but MS always find a way to bring it back by sneaking in an update or upgrade. Things I thought I'd disabled re-appear. A Windows installation turns what could be a useful tool into an expensive electricity wasting device dedicated to updating itself. A very expensive brick.

Opensuse Tumbleweed XFCE. Magic.
Can't do it. I'm basically a Microsoft development stack software developer. Once .NET 5 becomes official later this year, at least in theory I could move my development environment to a Linux distribution, but I'd have to hear overwhelming reports that this is trouble-free before considering the move. If I weren't in this situation, I would strongly consider it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:50 am
by jugheadnaut
Bhurzum wrote:
Well, if bitchute has a block/ban/mute function, Devon "Screeching snowflake" Tracy will be right at home. He may make some interesting content but for all his bluster and bravado, the guy is a simpering bitch who goes bat-shit mental at the slightest criticism.

He's like an edgy reflection of Steve Shives.
I unsubscribed and started ignoring him a few years ago for just this reason. I think I only started watching his videos again when, ironically, YouTube would frequently put them in my recommended feed (I don't like to think of where this puts my user profile in the Google recommendations algorithm, which is one reason I'm going to try to leave Google before they start messing with me). While he's still pretty tightly wound, he seems to have loosened up quite a bit in the last year and he has a lot more humility and is able to handle contrary viewpoints. He probably realizes the great majority of his viewers are either Trump fans or anti-anti-Trump, so as arguably a TDS sufferer, he had little choice if he didn't want to abandon his YouTube career.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:32 am
by Matt Cavanaugh

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:25 am
by Service Dog
Service Dog wrote: Teacher's unions are to the kid's best interest-- what cop unions are to poor people's best interest.
MarcusAu wrote: What about the parent's best interest? ie a free baby-sitting service.
Put the kids to work. And unionize them. then Child Labor can collective-bargain against the Teacher's Unions. :character-cookiemonster: :character-grover: :character-oscar:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:30 am
by Service Dog
Nothing that can't be solved by simply burning down the Chipotle.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:47 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Service Dog wrote: Nothing that can't be solved by simply burning down the Chipotle.
Chipolte tends to burn all on its own.


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:55 am
by Service Dog
That's so insensitive to the memory of George Floyd.


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:30 am
by Service Dog
Volunteer Community Policing Effort Vs. Small Town Meth Epidemic

http://archive.is/Td5sV

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:48 am
by John D
Cool.... this is not far from me. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: The news conference starts in 5 minutes.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:53 am
by MarcusAu
Service Dog wrote: Put the kids to work. And unionize them. then Child Labor can collective-bargain against the Teacher's Unions. :character-cookiemonster: :character-grover: :character-oscar:
...and how is Dog, Diet and something else beginning with 'D' going?

(If I may non-sequiturize for a bit).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:19 pm
by John D
John D wrote:
Cool.... this is not far from me. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: The news conference starts in 5 minutes.
The husband and wife are both already charged with felonious assault and they are in custody. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:13 pm
by Service Dog
MarcusAu wrote:
...and how is Dog, Diet and something else beginning with 'D' going?
D is also for Drunkard.

The dog is doing really-well. After the 2nd week-long stay at the cabin-- he had bursts of trotting faster than walking-speed & initiating 'fetch'. Returning to the city, he's slowing down again-- due to hot, hard sidewalks-- having to climb flights of stairs. If his future is a very slow steady unpunctuated decline... it will be hard to say when is the right time to end him. For now, he's fine.

Diet is mostly postponed. I've only been able to maintain keto or one-meal-a-day for, like, 2 or 5 weeks at a time-- until I default to girlfriend's shopping & cooking habits.

Drunkard is the cabin-owner friend. Man-- he's in bad shape. Kept pulling over the car to puke, as we drove home earlier this week. The last few days have felt like a long hangover-- from dealing with him.

This has been brought to you by the number 3 and the letter D.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 pm
by Service Dog
D is also for Donut and 'Am I being Detained'.

In honor of the two youtube channels I've been watching: 'Donut Operator' and 'Audit the Audit'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:32 pm
by Matt Cavanaugh
Service Dog wrote: D is also for Donut
I hear Christopher Walken saying that line.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:44 pm
by Driftless
John D wrote:
John D wrote:
Cool.... this is not far from me. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: The news conference starts in 5 minutes.
The husband and wife are both already charged with felonious assault and they are in custody. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Don't most people get less confrontational when a gun is pointed at them?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:14 pm
by Brive1987
Service Dog wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
...and how is Dog, Diet and something else beginning with 'D' going?
Diet is mostly postponed. I've only been able to maintain keto or one-meal-a-day for, like, 2 or 5 weeks at a time-- until I default to girlfriend's shopping & cooking habits.
Bend her to your will and rage against the machine. Got my calcium score (CAC) back today - 0%. That dropped my risk from 6% to 3%. My MD echoed our Pit Resident. “We only worry about High T-cholesterol if your overall risk Is >10%”. Further, psa and crp are both v. low.

I know. We are all gonna die hideous deaths. One day. But in the meantime. Butter. Meat. Eggs. Salmon. Nuts. Cheese. Berries. 90% chocolate. Greek yoghurt. Spices. 17:7 IF. No snacking. It’s a King’s recipe.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:00 pm
by Matt Cavanaugh
Driftless wrote: Don't most people get less confrontational when a gun is pointed at them?
Most people would just holler, 'hey, you bumped into my daughter, dumbass!' and let it go.

But that wouldn't make for a proper chimp-out, now would it?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:07 pm
by MarcusAu
Brive1987 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:14 pm
Service Dog wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
...and how is Dog, Diet and something else beginning with 'D' going?
Diet is mostly postponed. I've only been able to maintain keto or one-meal-a-day for, like, 2 or 5 weeks at a time-- until I default to girlfriend's shopping & cooking habits.
Bend her to your will and rage against the machine. Got my calcium score (CAC) back today - 0%. That dropped my risk from 6% to 3%. My MD echoed our Pit Resident. “We only worry about High T-cholesterol if your overall risk Is >10%”. Further, psa and crp are both v. low.

I know. We are all gonna die hideous deaths. One day. But in the meantime. Butter. Meat. Eggs. Salmon. Nuts. Cheese. Berries. 90% chocolate. Greek yoghurt. Spices. 17:7 IF. No snacking. It’s a King’s recipe.
"...to say nothing of the dog".

C'mon Brive - that's only half an update.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:27 pm
by Brive1987
Ummmmmm. This is a thing? :) I take the dog for 6km Bataan death march every day while I’ve been working in lockdown. We re-play the Cold War as he tries to anticipate “walk time” - so he can do his own impression of a chimp out. It’s got to the point where he can hear me try to ninja-change into tracksuit pants two rooms and two doors away.

D is also for VitD:



It’s winter here so I’ve started a daily 4000IU supplement. Is that woo-ish?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:35 pm
by Brive1987
D is also for diamond push-up.

I’ve been doing 3-4 sets of 20-25 normal push-ups. Working on proper technique etc. Feeling pretty good as I got results.

Then I came across diamond push-ups. Fuck me. :bjarte:


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:22 am
by Pitchguest
My dad just died two hours ago. I'm in shock. It happened so fast. I didn't even get to say goodbye. I've been dreading this day for six years. Now it's here. 3rd of July, 2020. I've been crying so much I can't cry anymore. My dad was everything to me. He was the only one I could talk to about anything and he'd listen. I could give him a hug whenever I felt like it. He'd always know how to make me feel better. Now I feel lost. I don't know what to do.

Oh, I'd hoped and I'd hoped for things to get better but it never did. There was always something else that replaced whatever got fixed and then whatever got fixed came back with a vengeance somewhere down the line. I felt so helpless. I just wanted his last years to be without pain. I just wanted to be there for him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I felt too tired to do things with him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I put off getting his stuff in order from the attic, when he didn't have the strength to get up there anymore. Either it was too late or too early, or I felt hungry or something. Just petty reasons. Still, he understood and was never angry with me. He was the most patient man I ever knew and he never raised his voice.

I love you, dad. You're not in pain anymore. You can rest now.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:34 am
by Hunt
Pitchguest, I'm so sorry to hear that. Don't let small regrets trouble you more than you already are. They are meaningless and everyone has them. Do you have friends/family to talk to?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:37 am
by mordacious1
Pitchguest wrote: My dad just died two hours ago. I'm in shock. It happened so fast. I didn't even get to say goodbye. I've been dreading this day for six years. Now it's here. 3rd of July, 2020. I've been crying so much I can't cry anymore. My dad was everything to me. He was the only one I could talk to about anything and he'd listen. I could give him a hug whenever I felt like it. He'd always know how to make me feel better. Now I feel lost. I don't know what to do.

Oh, I'd hoped and I'd hoped for things to get better but it never did. There was always something else that replaced whatever got fixed and then whatever got fixed came back with a vengeance somewhere down the line. I felt so helpless. I just wanted his last years to be without pain. I just wanted to be there for him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I felt too tired to do things with him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I put off getting his stuff in order from the attic, when he didn't have the strength to get up there anymore. Either it was too late or too early, or I felt hungry or something. Just petty reasons. Still, he understood and was never angry with me. He was the most patient man I ever knew and he never raised his voice.

I love you, dad. You're not in pain anymore. You can rest now.
I’m sorry to hear this, Pitch...but at the same time envy your relationship with your dad. You were very lucky to have him, he sounds like a lovely man.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:38 am
by KiwiInOz
Pitchguest wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:22 am
My dad just died two hours ago. I'm in shock. It happened so fast. I didn't even get to say goodbye. I've been dreading this day for six years. Now it's here. 3rd of July, 2020. I've been crying so much I can't cry anymore. My dad was everything to me. He was the only one I could talk to about anything and he'd listen. I could give him a hug whenever I felt like it. He'd always know how to make me feel better. Now I feel lost. I don't know what to do.

Oh, I'd hoped and I'd hoped for things to get better but it never did. There was always something else that replaced whatever got fixed and then whatever got fixed came back with a vengeance somewhere down the line. I felt so helpless. I just wanted his last years to be without pain. I just wanted to be there for him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I felt too tired to do things with him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I put off getting his stuff in order from the attic, when he didn't have the strength to get up there anymore. Either it was too late or too early, or I felt hungry or something. Just petty reasons. Still, he understood and was never angry with me. He was the most patient man I ever knew and he never raised his voice.

I love you, dad. You're not in pain anymore. You can rest now.
Really sorry to hear that, Pitchy. He sounds like someone pretty awesome. I'm sure that you also have in you what he had, and that you will bring it to those you care about.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:27 am
by Brive1987
Sorry Pitch, it’s been a ‘process’ eh. I lost my dad in my early 30s. Burst into tears and then died emotionally as a result so I didn’t shed a tear when my equally loved mum passed away a few years later. So let the emotion flow. It’s sounds trite - but parents live on in memory and as you get older, I’ve found solace in a weird sense of comradery.

Commiserations.


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:32 am
by MarcusAu
I think I read somewhere that time is like a crystal matrix.

People still exist and will forever - though in a someone less accessible state to those of us that have carried on.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:57 am
by Driftless
James Lindsay on Joe Rogan:



I haven't watched yet but I can't imagine it being anything but good.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:08 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Pitchguest wrote: My dad just died two hours ago. I'm in shock. It happened so fast. I didn't even get to say goodbye. I've been dreading this day for six years. Now it's here. 3rd of July, 2020. I've been crying so much I can't cry anymore. My dad was everything to me. He was the only one I could talk to about anything and he'd listen. I could give him a hug whenever I felt like it. He'd always know how to make me feel better. Now I feel lost. I don't know what to do.

Oh, I'd hoped and I'd hoped for things to get better but it never did. There was always something else that replaced whatever got fixed and then whatever got fixed came back with a vengeance somewhere down the line. I felt so helpless. I just wanted his last years to be without pain. I just wanted to be there for him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I felt too tired to do things with him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I put off getting his stuff in order from the attic, when he didn't have the strength to get up there anymore. Either it was too late or too early, or I felt hungry or something. Just petty reasons. Still, he understood and was never angry with me. He was the most patient man I ever knew and he never raised his voice.

I love you, dad. You're not in pain anymore. You can rest now.
Sounds like you actually did a whole lot for him. He knew that and appreciated it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:36 am
by screwtape
I'm sorry, Pitch. Grief is the shittiest experience, as there is nothing you can do to speed through it; you just have to suffer like a dumb animal until it fades. Eventually, you just remember how lucky you were to have someone so kind and wise in your life as an example, and you honour him by doing your best to live up to his example. Talk about him with those who knew him, and keep away from booze. It will fade.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:16 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
This looks good too:



Of course, any theater that tries to screen it will be burned to the ground.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:22 am
by Service Dog
The cult of White Guilt demands that all white people must admit they are racist.

Admitting to being racist-- on social media-- is also grounds for having your admission to college revoked:

"Colleges Rescinding Admissions Offers as Racist Social Media Posts Emerge" - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/us/r ... sions.html
Liberty Woodley, 17, the 2020 valedictorian of her high school class in Cape Coral, Fla., had accepted an offer to attend the University of Florida. But she will not be enrolling in the fall. The sudden change came after an actress last month called on her more than 500,000 Twitter followers to send her screenshots of hateful social media posts, and one of Ms. Woodley’s old Instagram posts was surfaced.
“I really try so hard not to be a racist person, but I most definitely am, there’s no denying it,” read the screenshot caption, which Ms. Woodley wrote when she was 16. In the post, she also used derogatory language* to refer to two Black students in her class.
Ms. Woodley and her parents could not be reached for comment, but she said in an interview with The Gainesville Sun that she had apologized and had written the post out of anger at a time when she was being constantly bullied. The post first resurfaced last year, prompting death threats. “I am not racist at all, and I am not full of hate,” she said, according to the newspaper.

*
For some students, the offensive social media posts that cost them their admission were made years earlier, as was the case for Kyle Kashuv, a survivor of the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., who became an outspoken defender of the Second Amendment and was later accepted into Harvard University. Last June, he announced that Harvard had rescinded its admission offer over a trail of derogatory and racist screeds that Mr. Kashuv wrote as a 16-year-old.
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"In some cases, the revoked admissions offers are the results of concerted efforts by teenagers who have leveraged large social media followings and created Google spreadsheets to collect and document racist and offensive behavior with screenshots, videos and the names of those involved."

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:28 am
by Lsuoma
Sorry to hear about your pop, PG. Hang in there...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:11 am
by Pitchguest
I'm still a wreck. I'm sorry I haven't responded.

Hunt: Family to talk to? I do, but I don't have anyone to vent to. No really close friends at home. That's why my dad was so important to me. I have you guys, but it's ... not the same. No offense.

mordacious1: He was. I already miss him. It's going to be a tough 24 hours.

Kiwi: I could try to be my dad, but I could never emulate him. Most everything I am you can attribute to him, but I'm a very poor substitute. I just wish I had the foresight to learn more from him before he passed.

Brive: Then we're the same. I'm 32 now. My dad was 71. I've been crying a lot, but I also feel like I'm dead inside. I've been trying to watch stuff to cheer me up. Things that I know would make me smile otherwise, but ... nothing. It feels like I'm in a perpetual state of disbelief and I'm going to wake up in the morning and it was all a bad dream. It's horrible.

MarcusAU: Thanks, Marcus, for trying to make me feel better.

Lsuoma: Thanks, FT. I will try.

Thank you all. You guys are the best. :romance-grouphug: :obscene-drinkingbuddies:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:12 am
by Pitchguest
screwtape wrote: I'm sorry, Pitch. Grief is the shittiest experience, as there is nothing you can do to speed through it; you just have to suffer like a dumb animal until it fades. Eventually, you just remember how lucky you were to have someone so kind and wise in your life as an example, and you honour him by doing your best to live up to his example. Talk about him with those who knew him, and keep away from booze. It will fade.
Hearing this from you means a lot, knowing what you're going through yourself. Thanks, man.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:16 am
by Pitchguest
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sounds like you actually did a whole lot for him. He knew that and appreciated it.
I tried to do my best, but sometimes I was just lazy and I feel terrible about that. Man. I'm just a mess. I'm going to try and get some sleep. Thank you all for your support. I mean it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:21 am
by John D
RIP Father Pitch. We are all imperfect creation Pitch. Your father loved you in spite of.... or perhaps because of your flaws. He would want you to forgive yourself.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:42 am
by free thoughtpolice
Driftless wrote:
John D wrote:
John D wrote:
Cool.... this is not far from me. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: The news conference starts in 5 minutes.
The husband and wife are both already charged with felonious assault and they are in custody. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Don't most people get less confrontational when a gun is pointed at them?
Not if they want to keep it real.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:02 pm
by John D
This little girl is 16 and just graduated from High School. Wow.... what a gift. The Petersens are a family group (except for the dobro player) from Missouri. I find them delightful to watch these days.


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:00 pm
by Keating
All the best, Pitch. I'm sure you'll find a way to honour his memory by passing on his best qualities to someone else.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:03 pm
by Keating
When everyone is racist, no one is.



Somehow, it doesn't seem to quite work that way.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:09 pm
by CommanderTuvok
Sorry to hear about your dad, Pitchguest. All the best, mate.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:12 pm
by Keating

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:47 pm
by Service Dog
Pitchguest-- your words about your dad have been powerful to read. Thank you.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:47 pm
by KiwiInOz
Pitchguest - don't try to be your Dad. Just be you. I think that you'll be surprised how many of his characteristics you have, and how that will make others feel.

Best.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:03 pm
by Lsuoma
Plus, be aware that losing parents when young isn't unusual - I lost pop when I was 17 (he was 47), ma when I was 26 (she was 51) - it sets you apart, but it can be a way to grow more quickly.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:22 pm
by MarcusAu
Lsuoma wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:03 pm
Plus, be aware that losing parents when young isn't unusual - I lost pop when I was 17 (he was 47), ma when I was 26 (she was 51) - it sets you apart, but it can be a way to grow more quickly.
Oscar Wilde wrote: To lose one parent may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.
In your case a little to old to be found in a handbag at a railway station...but still.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:21 am
by Pseudomonas
Pitchguest wrote: My dad just died two hours ago. I'm in shock. It happened so fast. I didn't even get to say goodbye. I've been dreading this day for six years. Now it's here. 3rd of July, 2020. I've been crying so much I can't cry anymore. My dad was everything to me. He was the only one I could talk to about anything and he'd listen. I could give him a hug whenever I felt like it. He'd always know how to make me feel better. Now I feel lost. I don't know what to do.

Oh, I'd hoped and I'd hoped for things to get better but it never did. There was always something else that replaced whatever got fixed and then whatever got fixed came back with a vengeance somewhere down the line. I felt so helpless. I just wanted his last years to be without pain. I just wanted to be there for him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I felt too tired to do things with him. I'm kicking myself for all the times I put off getting his stuff in order from the attic, when he didn't have the strength to get up there anymore. Either it was too late or too early, or I felt hungry or something. Just petty reasons. Still, he understood and was never angry with me. He was the most patient man I ever knew and he never raised his voice.

I love you, dad. You're not in pain anymore. You can rest now.
Pitch, I can't offer much, but I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. Take time to grieve, and remember to take care of yourself.

Pseudomonas

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:36 am
by Pseudomonas
Lsuoma wrote: Plus, be aware that losing parents when young isn't unusual - I lost pop when I was 17 (he was 47), ma when I was 26 (she was 51) - it sets you apart, but it can be a way to grow more quickly.
That's true. I lost my dad at 21 - not sure if it helped me grow, but it probably did set me apart somewhat.

Pseudomonas