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Adam Conover wrote:First, on the question of whether 7 year old children are being given “hormones”, which cause irreversible changes: This is not true. These drugs are not hormones: what they actually do is block the onset of puberty.
Wiki wrote:Leuprorelin, also known as leuprolide, [brand name: Lupron] is a manufactured version of a hormone

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Adam Conover wrote:According to the Endocrine Society, these drugs are completely reversible.
… normal sexual or reproductive development will not occur. Girls will not begin menstruation and so will be infertile. Boys testes will not grow and develop and will impact on fertility. A boy’s penis will remain immature and remain the size of a child’s into adulthood. This will cause problems sexually if the penis is retained, both functionally and in terms of sexual arousal. It is also problematic if gender reassignment surgery is later chosen since there is too little material to use from the penis and testicles. 

When a child’s natural puberty is blocked we can expect to see effects not only on the body but on the developing brain. It is the surge of sex hormones at puberty which triggers the important changes in the adolescent brain which only reach completion in the mid-twenties. Hormonal changes at puberty  are thought to influence the development of both brain structure and function.

Recent research indicates that there is a window of development for some cognitive functions, and if this window is missed, cognitive development does not resume later even if blockers are discontinued. A reduction in long-term spatial memory was found to persist after discontinuation of blockers….
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Adam Conover wrote:Regarding Joe’s question about whether or not we know what the long-term effects are: These drugs have been approved for use in children by the FDA since 1993. In other words, they’ve been prescribed to children for over 25 years, and still have been deemed safe.
The evidence of ‘reversibility’ is from studies in a different set of children; namely children with precocious puberty (a puberty disorder in which puberty commences very early. Technically this is before the age of 8 in girls but could be as young as pre-school age). In these children puberty blocking drugs are normally withdrawn around the age of 12 and menstruation in girls commences about 1 year later.

This is very different from the approach in children with gender dysphoria. Normal puberty is postponed while the normal ageing process proceeds. Restarting natural puberty (or inducing cross-sex puberty artificially at 16) would therefore be out of step with other development processes. It should also be noted that virtually all cases of precocious puberty occur in girls so there is extremely little evidence of the restarting of puberty in boys.

It has long been known that mechanistically GnRH analogues can cause bone thinning. The reduction of estrogen levels in girls can induce a temporary osteopenia (similar to what’s seen in menopause when estrogen levels naturally fall). A 2009 study showed that Lupron caused bone thinning in girls treated although bone density was seen to return to normal levels within 10 years after treatment. There is also a large 2005 study in men treated for prostate cancer in which a significantly increased risk of bone fractures was observed.
https://www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers/
Many [patients on Lupron] have experienced extreme side effects that shattered their health and their lives, including severe joint pain, osteoporosis, compromised immune systems, and mental health issues such as severe depression and even suicidal ideation. The FDA has received 24,000 reports of adverse reactions, about half of which the agency has deemed serious.
https://thefederalist.com/2018/12/14/pu ... ns-health/


Side effects of Lupron include:
headaches
chronic pain
osteopenia
osteoporosis
degenerative disc disease
bursitis
Polycystic Ovary Syndrome
deteriorating vision
severe asthma exacerbation
depression
anxiety
mood swings
suicidal urges
seizures

https://californiahealthline.org/news/w ... -problems/

In summation:
It is often said that the use of puberty blockers in children is completely safe and irreversible. This claim however has never been tested in long term studies and its use for gender dysphoria remains experimental. Questions still remain about long term health concerns and the effect on the natural trajectory of the development of gender identity. Ethical questions remain about the capacity of children to consent to a treatment which blocks their natural development at puberty, especially given the evidence that this locks them into a medical pathway resulting in sterility and potential loss of sexual function. 
https://www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers/

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Adam Conover wrote:First, on the question of whether 7 year old children are being given “hormones”, which cause irreversible changes: This is not true. These drugs are not hormones: what they actually do is block the onset of puberty.
Wiki wrote:Leuprorelin, also known as leuprolide, [brand name: Lupron] is a manufactured version of a hormone

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Adam Conover wrote:According to the Endocrine Society, these drugs are completely reversible.
… normal sexual or reproductive development will not occur. Girls will not begin menstruation and so will be infertile. Boys testes will not grow and develop and will impact on fertility. A boy’s penis will remain immature and remain the size of a child’s into adulthood. This will cause problems sexually if the penis is retained, both functionally and in terms of sexual arousal. It is also problematic if gender reassignment surgery is later chosen since there is too little material to use from the penis and testicles. 

When a child’s natural puberty is blocked we can expect to see effects not only on the body but on the developing brain. It is the surge of sex hormones at puberty which triggers the important changes in the adolescent brain which only reach completion in the mid-twenties. Hormonal changes at puberty  are thought to influence the development of both brain structure and function.

Recent research indicates that there is a window of development for some cognitive functions, and if this window is missed, cognitive development does not resume later even if blockers are discontinued. A reduction in long-term spatial memory was found to persist after discontinuation of blockers….
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Adam Conover wrote:Regarding Joe’s question about whether or not we know what the long-term effects are: These drugs have been approved for use in children by the FDA since 1993. In other words, they’ve been prescribed to children for over 25 years, and still have been deemed safe.
The evidence of ‘reversibility’ is from studies in a different set of children; namely children with precocious puberty (a puberty disorder in which puberty commences very early. Technically this is before the age of 8 in girls but could be as young as pre-school age). In these children puberty blocking drugs are normally withdrawn around the age of 12 and menstruation in girls commences about 1 year later.

This is very different from the approach in children with gender dysphoria. Normal puberty is postponed while the normal ageing process proceeds. Restarting natural puberty (or inducing cross-sex puberty artificially at 16) would therefore be out of step with other development processes. It should also be noted that virtually all cases of precocious puberty occur in girls so there is extremely little evidence of the restarting of puberty in boys.

It has long been known that mechanistically GnRH analogues can cause bone thinning. The reduction of estrogen levels in girls can induce a temporary osteopenia (similar to what’s seen in menopause when estrogen levels naturally fall). A 2009 study showed that Lupron caused bone thinning in girls treated although bone density was seen to return to normal levels within 10 years after treatment. There is also a large 2005 study in men treated for prostate cancer in which a significantly increased risk of bone fractures was observed.
https://www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers/
Many [patients on Lupron] have experienced extreme side effects that shattered their health and their lives, including severe joint pain, osteoporosis, compromised immune systems, and mental health issues such as severe depression and even suicidal ideation. The FDA has received 24,000 reports of adverse reactions, about half of which the agency has deemed serious.
https://thefederalist.com/2018/12/14/pu ... ns-health/


Side effects of Lupron include:
headaches
chronic pain
osteopenia
osteoporosis
degenerative disc disease
bursitis
Polycystic Ovary Syndrome
deteriorating vision
severe asthma exacerbation
depression
anxiety
mood swings
suicidal urges
seizures

https://californiahealthline.org/news/w ... -problems/

In summation:
It is often said that the use of puberty blockers in children is completely safe and irreversible. This claim however has never been tested in long term studies and its use for gender dysphoria remains experimental. Questions still remain about long term health concerns and the effect on the natural trajectory of the development of gender identity. Ethical questions remain about the capacity of children to consent to a treatment which blocks their natural development at puberty, especially given the evidence that this locks them into a medical pathway resulting in sterility and potential loss of sexual function. 
https://www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers/

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Adam Conover wrote:The discussion that Joe and I had was between two non-experts in the topic….
As a starting place, I’ve used Brynn Tannehill’s excellent book, Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about Trans, which is an exhaustive compilation of research on the subject. Tannehill is a military veteran, a researcher, and a defense analyst.
Brynn Tannehill … graduated from the Naval Academy with a B.S. in computer science in 1997. In 2008 Brynn earned a M.S. in Operations Research from the Air Force Institute of Technology.
http://www.brynntannehill.com/about/

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Brynn Tannehill wrote:Lisa Littman’s study on “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria” (ROGD) [is] junk science that proves nothing. I’d like to illustrate why with a series of ihypothetical conversations that show why any study with just ONE of the problems Littman’s has would be laughable.

Bad Scientist: I’ve proved bigfoot exists!
Me: How?
Bad Scientist: By interviewing the people who first made the claim that bigfoot exists.
http://www.brynntannehill.com/an-easy-g ... h-is-junk/

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Dr. Lisa Littman is a physician and researcher who is trained in General Preventive Medicine/Public Health and Obstetrics and Gynecology. She received her undergraduate degree from Brandeis University, her MD degree from UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School (now Rutgers Medical School) and completed a residency in obstetrics and gynecology at Women and Infants Hospital/Brown University. She also completed a residency in General Preventive Medicine and Public Health and obtained a Master’s in Public Health degree from the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. Her research interests include reproductive health, rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD), detransition, iatrogenic persistence of gender dysphoria, and maternal and child health including prematurity and substance use in pregnancy (tobacco, marijuana, and electronic nicotine delivery systems). As a public health physician consultant, she has worked with the Rhode Island Department of Health (RIDOH) on multiple public health projects related to maternal and child health including: immunization in pregnancy, family planning, prematurity, substance use, and perinatal and infant oral health. 
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Whatever your feelings about him as a person you salute the rank not the man.
Fine in theory until the man pisses all over the rank with his behaviour. Regardless of politics, he demeans the office he holds. He even made GWBush look like a noble statesman. We didn't have to give him a state visit . Most Prezzers dont get one.
Someone in the Tory Govt (who advise the Queen) though it was a good move. It wasn't.

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InfraRedBucket wrote: We didn't have to give him a state visit . Most Prezzers dont get one.
Someone in the Tory Govt (who advise the Queen) though it was a good move.
Maybe the 75th anniversary of the D-day landings had something to do with the decision. Also just because he may have abused his office (That's subject to opinion) that does not mean we stop saluting the office he holds.

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shoutinghorse wrote:
InfraRedBucket wrote: We didn't have to give him a state visit . Most Prezzers dont get one.
Someone in the Tory Govt (who advise the Queen) though it was a good move.
Maybe the 75th anniversary of the D-day landings had something to do with the decision. Also just because he may have abused his office (That's subject to opinion) that does not mean we stop saluting the office he holds.

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And now Avon has died...

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Lsuoma wrote: And now Avon has died...
How many left? (Think of a number between one and six).

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Brynn Tannehill … graduated from the Naval Academy with a B.S. in computer science in 1997. In 2008 Brynn earned a M.S. in Operations Research from the Air Force Institute of Technology.
Reminds me of an experience I had in the mid '90s while a lead software developer with a medium sized company. The head of software development one day informed me that they had made an impulsive hire of someone whose resume was so good he was fast tracked for hiring without the usual gauntlet of interviews. The highlight of said resume was an MS in Operations Research from the Air Force Institute of Technology. I was instructed to put him on a data visualization feature and told to leave him alone for a week to let him get up to speed. After a week, I went to his desk to check on his progress and was stunned to find that not only was he a complete amateur as a software developer, he was totally innumerate and didn't even understand the basic concepts of graphing data. I was at a loss to explain how someone like him received a graduate degree from not only a respected technical research institution, but a military one where one would think rigor was a point of emphasis. I got him fired a month later, but heard from others that within 2 weeks his 'killer' resume got him a job at Anheuser-Busch with a huge increase in salary over what we were paying him.

I looked into AFITT and found part of its self declared mission was to provide continuing technical education to Air Force personnel. So, while I have little doubt this is a genuine higher research institution that does important and valuable work, I think there's also a good chance it has a side business as a diploma mill for Air Force vets.

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Maybe Operations Research meant playing the shit out of this?

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SM1957 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:15 am
MarcusAu wrote: What exactly are the rules of etiquette as to which public figures can be mocked & when & how?
Should Presidents of the United States be mocked on a BBC news programme?
He should be exempt from mockery as only the second coloured man to hold the office.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:45 am
SM1957 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:15 am
MarcusAu wrote: What exactly are the rules of etiquette as to which public figures can be mocked & when & how?
Should Presidents of the United States be mocked on a BBC news programme?
He should be exempt from mockery as only the second coloured man to hold the office.
Orange is the new Black?

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Probably the finest (and longest) example of a "notpology" on the internet today:


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Made the jump to fiber optic broadband - it's bastard glorious!

http://66.media.tumblr.com/568205a0e37a ... o1_500.gif

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:45 am
SM1957 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:15 am
MarcusAu wrote: What exactly are the rules of etiquette as to which public figures can be mocked & when & how?
Should Presidents of the United States be mocked on a BBC news programme?
He should be exempt from mockery as only the second coloured man to hold the office.
Orange is the new Black?
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Kiwi and Phil deserve a BPE each for that.

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Pseudomonas wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:19 am
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:45 am
SM1957 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:15 am
MarcusAu wrote: What exactly are the rules of etiquette as to which public figures can be mocked & when & how?
Should Presidents of the United States be mocked on a BBC news programme?
He should be exempt from mockery as only the second coloured man to hold the office.
Orange is the new Black?
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Kiwi and Phil deserve a BPE each for that.

Pseudomonas
Agreed.

I was like :

:o :o :o

and then :

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Do it dear FT.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:45 am
SM1957 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:15 am
MarcusAu wrote: What exactly are the rules of etiquette as to which public figures can be mocked & when & how?


Should Presidents of the United States be mocked on a BBC news programme?
He should be exempt from mockery as only the second coloured man to hold the office.
Orange is the new Black?
:clap: Nice one.

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I haven't seen a setup and dunk like that since the last time I watched Women's Volleyball. ;)

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trump says of Teresa May: “She’s probably a better negotiator than I am.” Sadly, true.


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Ping 16ms Download 49.61 Mb/s Upload 9.56 Mb/s
I'm in gamer heaven! 8-)

Currently stalking a trio of unsuspecting victims just north of Березино (Berezino) in DayZ. Soon, if things go to plan, I'll have some shiny new boots, a pack full of ammo & rations and my trusty boom-stick will have three more notches on her butt.

Glorious!

http://i.imgur.com/axkKJN2.jpg?1

"Yes, yes, poke yer nose out a wee bit more..."

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: trump says of Teresa May: “She’s probably a better negotiator than I am.” Sadly, true.
Trump has bigger tits.

Swings/roundabouts.

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Bhurzum wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:57 am
Ping 16ms Download 49.61 Mb/s Upload 9.56 Mb/s
I'm in gamer heaven! 8-)

Currently stalking a trio of unsuspecting victims just north of Березино (Berezino) in DayZ. Soon, if things go to plan, I'll have some shiny new boots, a pack full of ammo & rations and my trusty boom-stick will have three more notches on her butt.

Glorious!

http://i.imgur.com/axkKJN2.jpg?1

"Yes, yes, poke yer nose out a wee bit more..."
Mine is a bit slow today. Usually I get twice the DL and UL score...

https://www.speedtest.net/result/8310834502

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Mine is a bit slow today. Usually I get twice the DL and UL score...

https://www.speedtest.net/result/8310834502
Ah, but I live in the village of the damned. We only got hot-running water last year...

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Well, with your connection you're eligible for a Shadow if you want to try it sometime. That's what I use for gaming.

https://sso.shadow.tech/

My home machine is 7 years old, and this stuff runs all the latest games at the highest specs. 30 euros/month, and well worth it. Plus, they upgrade the hardware as technology progresses, without charges.

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Fuckin hell.... my wife is falling apart before my eyes. Last night's dialog.....

wife: "scratch my back."

me: "okay"

wife after me scratching her back for 20 minutes: "what is on my back? is it dry skin.... is it a rash... pimples.... there must be something on my back. Okay... now scratch my legs."

me: "there is nothing on your skin.... maybe just a tiny little bump of some kind."

wife: "well scratch it off or pinch it or cross it or something!"

me looking at her back covered in red scratches and bloody spots: "Hey, something is wrong. There is nothing on your skin. It's nothing."

wife: "you think I'm crazy.... you think I am making this up!"

me: I don't think you are making this up.... but there is something wrong other than your skin."

wife: "you said it was nothing. You think I am crazy....... (ten minutes later).... I can't do anything for anyone. No one needs me. I am only staying alive so I can make it to Lily's wedding. I want to kill myself and I know how to do it."

me: "I think you need to go to the psych hospital. I think you need to get on some Adderall and some Zoloft. You should go to the psych hospital when you feel this way."

wife: "I don't want to see anymore doctors. They don't help. I am in pain all the time. I can't sleep. I can't exercise. I itch all the time. My scalp breaks out in hives every night. My skin is covered with scabs. I don't have any time to get anything done. I haven't seen the gynecologist for a year."

me: "You are off work in three weeks and you will be out of work all summer. Make some appointments now. Hell, you can see a doctor every day."

wife: "I don't want to see a doctor. Doctors don't help. What about you? What about you? What about your drinking? You say you drink just because you like it. I think you drink because you are unhappy."

me: "I do like to drink. I am self medicating. I am able to work full time, have hobbies, cook, clean, and do all the house work. I don't think my drinking is a problem. I am trying to make sure it does not become a problem because I like it so much."

wife: "Well, why don't I start drinking?"

me: "You don't like drinking. What you need is Adderall and Zoloft. You need to find something that makes you feel better."

wife: "and what about that therapist you said we should see? Whatever happened to that?"

me: "Well, I didn't follow up with that because I thought you didn't think it was a good idea. I guess I let that slip. Sorry."

wife: "That's because you drink. You always forget everything."

(I was relieved when a got home at lunch and found her car was gone. This means she was at work and not dead in the bathroom.)

Sorry for the depressing news. It helps me to write this. If I share this kind of thing with our friends my wife will stop talking to me.

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Change UK has lost six of its 11 MPs following a disappointing performance in last month's EU elections, when it failed to get a single MEP elected.

The party announced that a new party leader, Anna Soubry, had been elected.

She said she was "deeply disappointed" that Heidi Allen, Chuka Umunna, Sarah Wollaston, Angela Smith, Luciana Berger and Gavin Shuker had left.

The departing MPs said they would be "returning to supporting each other as an independent grouping of MPs".

Change UK - formerly known as the Independent Group - was formed earlier this year by MPs who quit Labour and the Conservatives.

It pledged to push for any Brexit deal negotiated by the government to be voted on at a referendum - or "People's Vote" - in which it would campaign for the UK to remain in the EU.

But in last month's European Parliament elections, it gained only 3.4% of the vote.
At least they got the name right!

When are they going to form the UK Changing Front?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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"Alright I'll have a bg of otters noses then, better make it two"

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Lsuoma wrote:
Change UK has lost six of its 11 MPs following a disappointing performance in last month's EU elections, when it failed to get a single MEP elected.

The party announced that a new party leader, Anna Soubry, had been elected.

She said she was "deeply disappointed" that Heidi Allen, Chuka Umunna, Sarah Wollaston, Angela Smith, Luciana Berger and Gavin Shuker had left.

The departing MPs said they would be "returning to supporting each other as an independent grouping of MPs".

Change UK - formerly known as the Independent Group - was formed earlier this year by MPs who quit Labour and the Conservatives.

It pledged to push for any Brexit deal negotiated by the government to be voted on at a referendum - or "People's Vote" - in which it would campaign for the UK to remain in the EU.

But in last month's European Parliament elections, it gained only 3.4% of the vote.
At least they got the name right!

When are they going to form the UK Changing Front?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Splitters!

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John D wrote: Fuckin hell.... my wife is falling apart before my eyes. Last night's dialog.....

wife: "scratch my back."

me: "okay"

wife after me scratching her back for 20 minutes: "what is on my back? is it dry skin.... is it a rash... pimples.... there must be something on my back. Okay... now scratch my legs."

me: "there is nothing on your skin.... maybe just a tiny little bump of some kind."

wife: "well scratch it off or pinch it or cross it or something!"

me looking at her back covered in red scratches and bloody spots: "Hey, something is wrong. There is nothing on your skin. It's nothing."

wife: "you think I'm crazy.... you think I am making this up!"

me: I don't think you are making this up.... but there is something wrong other than your skin."

wife: "you said it was nothing. You think I am crazy....... (ten minutes later).... I can't do anything for anyone. No one needs me. I am only staying alive so I can make it to Lily's wedding. I want to kill myself and I know how to do it."

me: "I think you need to go to the psych hospital. I think you need to get on some Adderall and some Zoloft. You should go to the psych hospital when you feel this way."

wife: "I don't want to see anymore doctors. They don't help. I am in pain all the time. I can't sleep. I can't exercise. I itch all the time. My scalp breaks out in hives every night. My skin is covered with scabs. I don't have any time to get anything done. I haven't seen the gynecologist for a year."

me: "You are off work in three weeks and you will be out of work all summer. Make some appointments now. Hell, you can see a doctor every day."

wife: "I don't want to see a doctor. Doctors don't help. What about you? What about you? What about your drinking? You say you drink just because you like it. I think you drink because you are unhappy."

me: "I do like to drink. I am self medicating. I am able to work full time, have hobbies, cook, clean, and do all the house work. I don't think my drinking is a problem. I am trying to make sure it does not become a problem because I like it so much."

wife: "Well, why don't I start drinking?"

me: "You don't like drinking. What you need is Adderall and Zoloft. You need to find something that makes you feel better."

wife: "and what about that therapist you said we should see? Whatever happened to that?"

me: "Well, I didn't follow up with that because I thought you didn't think it was a good idea. I guess I let that slip. Sorry."

wife: "That's because you drink. You always forget everything."

(I was relieved when a got home at lunch and found her car was gone. This means she was at work and not dead in the bathroom.)

Sorry for the depressing news. It helps me to write this. If I share this kind of thing with our friends my wife will stop talking to me.
Jesus, John. At least you can talk to her about it. My mum is more than likely bipolar and probably has been for a very long time, but if I even suggest anything close to treatment of any kind (especially psychiatric), it's akin (in her mind) to telling her to blow her brains out. She's not well, is what I'm saying. Sending good vibes your way, mate.

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Arrested for bursting a balloon. :lol:


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Pseudomonas wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:45 am
SM1957 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:15 am
MarcusAu wrote: What exactly are the rules of etiquette as to which public figures can be mocked & when & how?
Should Presidents of the United States be mocked on a BBC news programme?
He should be exempt from mockery as only the second coloured man to hold the office.
Orange is the new Black?
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Kiwi and Phil deserve a BPE each for that.

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I thought that Phil's response was pure gold.

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shoutinghorse wrote: Arrested for bursting a balloon. :lol:

What a prick.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote: Arrested for bursting a balloon. :lol:

What a prick.
Relax, and enjoys your shoes.

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shoutinghorse wrote: "Alright I'll have a bg of otters noses then, better make it two"
For some reason I've taken to saying "Packet of gravel" whenever I agree with something, and my wife has no idea what I'm on about. I hope she doesn't stone me...

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It's good there was a police officer there to protect him!

Actually she looked terrified.

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Driftless wrote:
It's good there was a police officer there to protect him!

Actually she looked terrified.
One frightened, female police officer, weighing probably just a little bit more than that milkshake.

Also,


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She's been found, she's the usual suspect.
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#BodyPositivity = 'yes, I'm having another helping, and don't you dare say a word!'

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Bhurzum, was this you and the other boys of Her Majesty's Highland Whiskey Regiment?

https://i.imgur.com/Q9UNeV3.png

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:13 pm
Bhurzum, was this you and the other boys of Her Majesty's Highland Whiskey Regiment?

https://i.imgur.com/Q9UNeV3.png
If he did go along with it, minimal harm was done.

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Lsuoma wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote: "Alright I'll have a bg of otters noses then, better make it two"
For some reason I've taken to saying "Packet of gravel" whenever I agree with something, and my wife has no idea what I'm on about. I hope she doesn't stone me...
As long as you don't say "Jehova" you'll be OK.

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Create a video making fun of a liberal icon and the Left will ruin your life, even if, maybe especially if, you’re a working class black person:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/we-found- ... losi-video

And of course, Facebook helped out him:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/02/da ... osi-video/

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:13 pm
Bhurzum, was this you and the other boys of Her Majesty's Highland Whiskey Regiment?

https://i.imgur.com/Q9UNeV3.png
If he did go along with it, minimal harm was done.
Sucks to be him.

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N'yuk, n'yuk!


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"Shut your maarf just shut your maarf a minute" .. love it. :lol:


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Well - he can always return to his former career of an exotic dancer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBe-jMLuFN0

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shoutinghorse wrote: "Shut your maarf just shut your maarf a minute" .. love it. :lol:
I was just about to post this. I fucking hate Galloway that much, I can feel it in my bones - every time he gets jumped in public (drunken rangers fans, Israeli students, random people with axes to grind), his lumped-up photos in the press are like mana from atheist heaven!

Total cunt.

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Youtube's 'Up Next' sidebar sez a video is "Recommended For You". It's on Sargon's second channel. The title is "Boston's First Annual Straight Pride Parade". I click it. I'm taken to a page which not-only declares the video "unavailable"-- it's a blank dead-end of youtube...



This is the first I've heard of the parade. I see there are news articles on google:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqSQg ... ceid=US:en

My troll approach would be to hold a "Straight and Gay" pride parade... celebrating Straightness-- and also giving a welcome new home to the Gay Men whose Gay Pride celebration has been over run by the alphabet of Lesbians Bi Trans Asexuals Intersex and Corporate Marketing Machines

MAKE PRIDE GAY AGAIN

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Service Dog wrote: Youtube's 'Up Next' sidebar sez a video is "Recommended For You". It's on Sargon's second channel. The title is "Boston's First Annual Straight Pride Parade". I click it. I'm taken to a page which not-only declares the video "unavailable"-- it's a blank dead-end of youtube...


This is the first I've heard of the parade. I see there are news articles on google:

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqSQg ... ceid=US:en

My troll approach would be to hold a "Straight and Gay" pride parade... celebrating Straightness-- and also giving a welcome new home to the Gay Men whose Gay Pride celebration has been over run by the alphabet of Lesbians Bi Trans Asexuals Intersex and Corporate Marketing Machines

MAKE PRIDE GAY AGAIN
That was quick, I only watched it about an hour ago. Now it comes up as unavailable. Fucking twats they are. Anyway there's always BitChute.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8PA1kPL5-_A/

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Bhurzum wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote: "Shut your maarf just shut your maarf a minute" .. love it. :lol:
I was just about to post this. I fucking hate Galloway that much, I can feel it in my bones - every time he gets jumped in public (drunken rangers fans, Israeli students, random people with axes to grind), his lumped-up photos in the press are like mana from atheist heaven!

Total cunt.
On a factual point which Sugar completely denies, I can't easily find any photos of Spurs fans with Israel flags for the final but they certainly were some in the semi final and it seems unlikely they wouldn't have returned for the final unless they were stopped or confiscated. Apparently Ajax (who played the semi final, also have a strong Jewish or Israeli following.
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/ne ... 1140291777

On another personal factual point, I grew up on the same huge Hackney Council housing estate as Alan Sugar (his family home block was opposite mine - buggers were in masionettes and posher blocks with bathrooms unlike our block ) though he was before my time , he being about 15 years older than me. Apparently Arnold Wesker, the playwright was another resident of the estate at one time.
Reggie Kray murdered Jack(the Hat) McVitie down the local Evening Road which ran from the back of part of the estate- I can't remember where I was at the time since I would have been about 5.

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Doctor Who anthology drops writer over transgender remarks

Doctor Who writer Gareth Roberts has been dropped from a new anthology of stories based on the TV show, over what publisher BBC Books described as “offensive language about the transgender community” on social media.

Roberts, who has written both Doctor Who TV episodes and books in the past, revealed the news himself on Tuesday in a lengthy post on Medium. He said that he had been commissioned to write the story, and had submitted it. When news of his contribution was leaked online, “a section” of the Doctor Who fandom “agitated” for his removal, and other contributors threatened to withdraw if he was involved.

“BBC Books immediately folded to these demands, and I was informed that although I would be paid, my story would not be published, as they judged – wrongly, in my opinion – that a potential boycott would make the book ‘economically unviable’,” wrote Roberts.

The gay author said the protests were down to two tweets he had made about the transgender community that he described as “cheerful vulgarity”. In 2017, he wrote: “I love how trannies choose names like Munroe, Paris and Chelsea. It’s never Julie or Bev is it?” adding, “It’s almost like a clueless gayboy’s idea of a glamorous lady. But of course it’s definitely not that.”

Doctor Who: The Target Storybook is due out in October from Ebury Publishing imprint BBC Books, featuring contributions from authors including Jenny T Colgan, Susie Day, Terrance Dicks and Matthew Sweet. Ebury confirmed on Wednesday that it would no longer feature Roberts’s work.

A spokeswoman added: “Comments made by the author on social media using offensive language about the transgender community have caused upset to Doctor Who fans and conflict with our values as a publisher.”

The decision has caused a storm on Twitter, with Roberts supported by names including Julie Bindel and Toby Young. Susie Day admitted she was one of the anthology authors to have protested about Roberts’ inclusion, saying that “being involved felt like a tacit endorsement of his views”.

“I raised my concerns, and said if he was in, I was out,” she wrote. “BBC Books made their decision. I’m grateful they took the opportunity to demonstrate that transphobic views have no place in the Whoniverse, both in and outside the stories.” Bethany Black, the first trans actor in Doctor Who, also applauded the decision.

In his Medium post, Roberts said he does not believe in gender identity, adding: “It is impossible for a person to change their biological sex. I don’t believe anybody is born in the wrong body.

“Like every other reasonable person I deplore and condemn any violence, intimidation or discrimination against any person for their beliefs or for how they present themselves, or indeed any other reason,” wrote Roberts. “I’ve rejected restrictive cultural gender stereotypes for as long as I can remember. I consider them to be very often harmful and constricting, especially for girls and women. The culture I enjoy most and the artists I like most are people who laugh at, bend and play with these roles.”

He finished by asking if BBC Books was planning to pull writing from authors including Julie Burchill, Graham Linehan, Martina Navratilova and Germaine Greer, who have also drawn criticism from the transgender community for their views.
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Interesting discussion at WEIT on the misreported story of the 17 year old dutch girl who was [not] euthanized:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ial-media/

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InfraRedBucket wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:57 am
Reggie Kray murdered Jack(the Hat) McVitie down the local Evening Road which ran from the back of part of the estate- I can't remember where I was at the time since I would have been about 5.
Why do people still always say Jack "The Hat" McVitie? Is that to distinguish him from Jack "Pink Tutu" McVitie or Jack "Chocolate Digestive" McVitie, both of who I have on good authority were murdered by Reggie "Reggie" Kray.

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InfraRedBucket wrote: Doctor Who anthology drops writer over transgender remarks

SPINELESS PANDERING SNIPPED
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/ ... th-roberts
Fucking UK elites/authorities. Pathetic - you guys really, really need another revolution.

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I heard that Jack "Chocolate Digestive" McVitie's dad came over on the Windrush.

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Been watching "Love They Neighbour" recently?

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MarcusAu wrote: I heard that Jack "Chocolate Digestive" McVitie's dad came over on the Windrush.
True - it's where he met his wife - Sandra "kit-kat" Smith (you get four fingers in her) but because she was a minger, he ended up with a bad dose of hobnob.

:bjarte:

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Lsuoma wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:57 am
InfraRedBucket wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:57 am
Reggie Kray murdered Jack(the Hat) McVitie down the local Evening Road which ran from the back of part of the estate- I can't remember where I was at the time since I would have been about 5.
Why do people still always say Jack "The Hat" McVitie? Is that to distinguish him from Jack "Pink Tutu" McVitie or Jack "Chocolate Digestive" McVitie, both of who I have on good authority were murdered by Reggie "Reggie" Kray.
I think it's this curious English habit (the gangs themselves and press mostly) to add nicknames to otherwise psychotic criminals and their ilk to somehow make them " characters" or summat. Otherwise it's plain old John Smith, instead of John (The Anal Explorer) Smith.
eg Frank Mitchell, "the Mad Axeman". How charming.

so we have the quaint "Mad " Frankie Fraser - who in 1991, was shot outside Turnmills nightclub and ended up at Barts Hospital .
A letter at the time addressed to Francis Fraser c/o Barts was opened by Ward staff with a shock - as while he was in another ward , there happens to a ward called Francis Fraser (named after a 1920s physician) who first were forwarded the letter til they realised it said "Get well soon from the boys at Parkhurst" (or one of the 20 different prisons he'd spent time in).

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Oh Man... straight pride! They are trying to get a parade in Boston.

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