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welch wrote:
screwtape wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Goalpost shift. You started off predicting future Muslim majority would mean sharia-based law for entire population (in UK, or perhaps in Europe, or perhaps in all of the West), no comment on race. Now you're moving toward white majority becoming minority, which is a different concern.

The website that you've linked in your profile here suggests the racial aspect is your main concern.
Blimey. What a site.
The white race.

Next she'll be telling us that race is a biological fact.
I think race is "real" in the sense that descendants of people from particular environments will be better adapted to those environments. What this means in practice today, is that it isn't necessarily racism that the fastest runners on Earth happen to all be Kenyan.

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Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Sorry. I never meant to be antisocial by excluding the misanthropes.
The misanthropes have prepared a response:

[youtube]iTFso9wnXxo[/youtube]

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Tigzy wrote:LOL. I've been reading up on this Creativity movement - as I said before, fascinated by lunatic subcultures - and found this on Wiki as regards its holy book:
The historicity of Jesus is also questioned, with the author concluding that he can find no independent evidence for the existence of the man.
I tell you, if I ever again catch Dicky trying to damn people by tenuous association, I am so gonna lay that fucker on him. :lol:
That is an odd coincidence. Sticky Dicky also advocates policies that result in as much sexual activity as possible.

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OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.

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DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
We don't have to say she is for white supremacy. She is. It's right there in her name and the website she linked to in her profile.

As to questioning her as to why she believes the way she does, no. I don't care. And that wasn't the point of her coming here in the first place.

It's not a "right wing" thing. Matt the horseguy is right wing. This person is a neo nazis. Like for reals.

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DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
I say she is a troll... but ask whatever questions you want. It doesn't matter to me. I already know plenty of racists. I don't need to ask questions.

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Is she from the group that Sargon talked to a while back?

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Maybe I've missed something but I've seen zero sttories about Hundus or Sikhs faintly to assimilate in the West.

I think if there were problems integrating other groups multiculturalism might be the problem but when only one group is failing to integrate we have to look at that group.
Shatterface
Here (in western Canada) we have had a Sikh community for many years and I became particularly familiar with them in the 1970s when I worked with some. During that period of time Sikhs from my area carried out Canada's worst terrorist incident:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182
In addition to that, very near where I live they ambushed and tried to assassinate an Indian ambassador and did assassinate and terrorize liberal elements of their own community.
The conservative members, largely people that came from the rural tribal areas were every bit as out of place in modern culture as salafi muslims. Women were basically treated as cattle, mostly kept at home swaddled up in veils, uneducated. Honor killings happened regularly, marriages were always arranged.
The worst thing that could happen to some of the people that I worked with was their compatriot fucking their wife, and the best was to bang their pal's wife. At one point there was an incident on the job of someone trying to murder his (ex)friend over that very scenario.
A fair number of them had lived in Canada for decades and could speak almost no english and didn't give a shit about learning.
40 years later their in my community their grandchildren have pretty much integrated in my community and young people I've talked to I feel totally comfortable to have as neighbors, friends, etc.
In the mean time, there are still pockets of the "fundamentalist type" Sikhs in the Vancouver/lower mainland to the degree that the Khalistan separatist movement has more members there than in India now.
So Sikhs can also be terrorists.

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DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
Yeah, I get that. However, she did show a fair bit of the old disingenuity by initially claiming to be very much against the rise of Islam...from the pulpit, it seems, of a creed every bit as batshit, if not more. And also, as was pointed out by Based Zebra, she shifted the goalposts by asserting the problem was actually one of the white race becoming a minority, making it a racial issue rather than a religious one.

I know I'm not the only Pitter tired of both hypocrisy and the conflation of Islam with race - no matter which end of of political horseshoe it comes from. So maybe that explains the less than enthusiastic response to her.

That said, I'm personally happy to give her a relatively easy time, because her beliefs, though truly bizarre, are weirdly fascinating, and I'm curious to know more about her take on them.

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DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
Engage with Creativity73 however you want. This is the pit, you have that freedom. But I don't have to follow your suggestions, and I don't need Creativity73 to explain the Nazi position to me. I started reading up on Neo-Nazis and talking to them when I was about 20 and discovered Black Metal. My position is that I have more friends who are non-white than white so I don't have any use for the Nazi position. Moreover, I don't want to be associated with any message boards that are friendly toward Nazis. I like the pit, and I don't want to have to distance myself from it because its welcoming people from Stormfront or the BNP or whatever. I'd also prefer it if the FTB crowd didn't even have a ghost of a point when they referred to us as "white supremacists". I don't speak for the pit any more than you do, so obviously this is all just my opinion, but I'm not interested in making Creativity73 feel at home here.

My whole reason for rejecting FTB and the SJWs is the fact that their points mirror those of Neo-Nazis. Both of these groups seem to think the world is a battleground between White Men and everyone else, and I don't see it that way. I think race and sex have very little importance, and the faster humanity can get away from balkanizing itself into these little tribes the better we'll all be for it.

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comhcinc wrote:
Shatterface wrote: Maybe I've missed something but I've seen zero sttories about Hundus or Sikhs faintly to assimilate in the West.

I think if there were problems integrating other groups multiculturalism might be the problem but when only one group is failing to integrate we have to look at that group.

Sikhs are those people from that peaceful religion that demand to be able to carry daggers all the time right?
New Jersey?

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Old_ones wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
Engage with Creativity73 however you want. This is the pit, you have that freedom. But I don't have to follow your suggestions, and I don't need Creativity73 to explain the Nazi position to me. I started reading up on Neo-Nazis and talking to them when I was about 20 and discovered Black Metal. My position is that I have more friends who are non-white than white so I don't have any use for the Nazi position. Moreover, I don't want to be associated with any message boards that are friendly toward Nazis. I like the pit, and I don't want to have to distance myself from it because its welcoming people from Stormfront or the BNP or whatever. I'd also prefer it if the FTB crowd didn't even have a ghost of a point when they referred to us as "white supremacists". I don't speak for the pit any more than you do, so obviously this is all just my opinion, but I'm not interested in making Creativity73 feel at home here.

My whole reason for rejecting FTB and the SJWs is the fact that their points mirror those of Neo-Nazis. Both of these groups seem to think the world is a battleground between White Men and everyone else, and I don't see it that way. I think race and sex have very little importance, and the faster humanity can get away from balkanizing itself into these little tribes the better we'll all be for it.
As Prussian Blue's momager is happy to tell you, the little girls who sing about the coming race war are just proud of what they are. Maybe they just think the Naziesque iconography of this Creative movement is a neat-looking symbol!

[youtube]sShFz7oHlms[/youtube]

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DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
Creativity73 has the right to whatever views she wants. But I am under no obligation to take them seriously, or, especially in the case of being a neo-nazi, be even vaguely respectful towards them or her.

I know what she fears, she's made that eminently clear. People who aren't like her and don't believe like her being anywhere other than beneath her in her country wherever that may be. I'm waiting for her to start up with the "black people aren't the same as niggers" argument. That lot loves that one.

She's also established that she'll believe and push as valid any sort of tripe that agrees with her, because it might let her scare some more honkies bad enough to join her fucking stupid movement. So there's that as well.

Also, there's a difference between a right-winger and a neo-nazi. I know a lot of right wingers, they're regularly logical and able to explain their positions in rational ways that don't involve OH GOD TEH JOOOOZ! So maybe you should stop conflating the two.

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Old_ones wrote:I started reading up on Neo-Nazis and talking to them when I was about 20 and discovered Black Metal.
The Neo Nazis being against it right?

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Lsuoma wrote:BTW, the real shitfest has just started. I believe it'll be about 10 days before I do a shit that wouldn't pass through the eye of a needle.
Prepping for Super Bowel 50, eh.

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comhcinc wrote:Shouldn't the shoulder strap be under the tie?
OK everyone ignore that. Like we need yet another schism. :o :o :o

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comhcinc wrote:
Old_ones wrote:I started reading up on Neo-Nazis and talking to them when I was about 20 and discovered Black Metal.
The Neo Nazis being against it right?
Actually, no. Black Metal is "black" in the same sense as "black magic". Its generally satanic and misanthropic, and there is a fair sized contingent of Nazis who have adapted the style to their message. These bands are usually called "NSBM" bands which stands for National Socialist Black Metal. So I've been in contact with Nazi metalheads on message boards before, and I've read publications which are supportive of Nazi ideas. They weren't all that interesting or persuasive.

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A couple of mornings ago I woke up in a cold sweat exclaiming: "HOLY SHIT!!! THIS IS THE GREAT FILTER!!!!"

(If there are any here who don't know what that is, it's a hypothetical X that's the hypothesized cause of why we don't see the kind of evidence of advanced alien civilizations we should see all around us given even a conservative plugging in of values into the Drake Equation, IOW it's one answer to the Fermi Paradox.)

So every sentient civilization, no matter their physical form, is going to arise by roughly the same method: memetic evolution. Memes are the units of cultural evolution, which are things like words, language, games, arts, techniques, methodologies - anything involving (in our case) human action (movement, utterance of sounds, gestures, etc.) that has a recognizable stable form, that's passed between us and installed in our "necktop app" (as Dennett put it). Memes are a falsifiable thing (Dennett has lots of stuff about experiments regarding the concept).

Obviously it all starts with things like tool-making, methods of gathering and hunting, types of social relations (and here it's important to bear in mind the most primitive level of a new being coming into the world being confronted by these giant, powerful things called "parents" on which it depends - Freud may have been largely wrong in many things, but the general idea of early development being psychologically important is still sound). Here also you have the beginnings of both scientific thought and philosophy, in the form of myth.

Centuries and millennia pass, and you get to a stage where there are many, many beneficial memes (like the "friendly bacteria" in our gut) that we pass on because they're beneficial. Among the most important are some of the mind memes that form our mental immune system - logic, reasoning, evidence-based argument, critical thinking (and also other memes that bolster these, like courage, integrity, etc.). (Here I'm going to be using good/bad in a sense that I think most here would agree with generally, i.e. objective morality is procedural behavioural rulesets' being instrumentally good or bad in relation to a basket of closely-related goals like : human flourishing, harmless individuals' freedom, human well-being, happiness.)

Then there are also the "bad replicators", which are more like viruses that offer NO BENEFIT to the host. At the lowest end, you get harmless mind-viruses that offer no benefit other than perhaps a bit of light-hearted fun, but that aren't actually dangerous and are at worst just a waste of time (fun crazes of various sorts, internet memes), then you get obsessions that can really become a waste of time, so of some disbenefit to the host (conspiracy theories, fan manias, religion as most people practice it, etc.), then you get obsessions that start to become really harmful (cults of various kinds) that flourish by dividing people into oppressor and oppressed groups and separating themselves out from the common ruck of humanity, then you get ones that are really harmful and virulent and replicate by the same method (full-on militant cults and religions - Islamism, Fascism, Communism, etc.).

As you get higher on the scale, the methodology the memes replicate faster and more prolifically by means of this division between "us" and "them". What at a lower end is just a harmless thing (like supporting football teams) shades into the kind of full blown analysis of society in terms of "power relations" that you see in Marxism, Fascism, Critical Theory, and the Social Justice and Third Wave Feminist movements of today, ending up at the high end with the Zoroastrian-derived, manichaean (Abrahamic) religions (Zoroastrianism was probably the first appearance of this conceptual hard division of humanity into "us" and "them").

With these kinds of ideologies that turn reason into rationalization, that depend on conversion rather than persuasion, on elimination rather than getting-along-with, at a low level of technology it doesn't matter so much (in fact they are on a meta level maybe even "good" in that the arms race against them gradually sharpens us up as a species, in fact it's probably sharpened up our immune system of reasoning tools, etc.).

But when you get to the situation we have now, with an Islamist theocratic fascism causing immense amounts of trouble already, and the possibility of a Christian theocratic fascism rising to counter it, and when on top of that, you then have academia, education, media, arts and politicians, turning generations of kids into a veritable Idiocracy, by a process of transforming reason into rationalization on an industrial scale, and when all 3 potential actors in this scenario have nuclear weapons ....

Shit. This could be it, this could be the Great Filter, this could be something analogous to what's happened before again, and again, and again throughout the galaxies, and only very, very rarely been avoided.

Zombie Apocalypse.

No wonder it's a thing in popular culture - it's peoples' subconscious sensing that their minds are being eaten away by mind-viruses, brainless replicators that induce them to eat each others' brains. Interestingly, zombies in movies started eating brains roundabout 1985, which is in the middle of the time period people mentioned above, when balance was lost in academia and there was a purge of the right wing, and an almost total installation of academics and intellectuals who toe the Social Justice Warrior line - or if they don't, in their hearts, still feel they have to give lip-service to it to keep their jobs.

Pulling back from giving myself a heart attack: of course most people are good people, and mean well. In fact that's what the replicator relies on, by relying on the falsifiable "Motte/Bait" connotation of a concept like "harassment" to hook the listener into swallowing the unfalsifiable, Theory-drenched "Bailey/Switched" version of the concept and then flagellating themselves for doing something they don't notice they actually never did.

The cure is just to keep on thinking, keep on persuading and keep on getting people to get their own mental immune systems into action - inducing argument, logic, critical thinking, etc.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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AndrewV69 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Shouldn't the shoulder strap be under the tie?
OK everyone ignore that. Like we need yet another schism. :o :o :o

After find the pictures of old Adolf I can see that the strap was worn under the tie. So I was wrong.


That said the tie should be worn over the strap and your tie should be longer than that too.

Also mutton chops.

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Since we are talking about Nazis and tanks... this is my favorite Nazi tank!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank

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Old_ones wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Old_ones wrote:I started reading up on Neo-Nazis and talking to them when I was about 20 and discovered Black Metal.
The Neo Nazis being against it right?
Actually, no. Black Metal is "black" in the same sense as "black magic".
.......So Voodoo?

http://www.echophotojournalism.com/site ... odoo07.jpg
You understand I am making jokes right?

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John D wrote:Since we are talking about Nazis and tanks... this is my favorite Nazi tank!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank

These are mine.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/56 ... 274d5e.jpg

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Really? wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.
Engage with Creativity73 however you want. This is the pit, you have that freedom. But I don't have to follow your suggestions, and I don't need Creativity73 to explain the Nazi position to me. I started reading up on Neo-Nazis and talking to them when I was about 20 and discovered Black Metal. My position is that I have more friends who are non-white than white so I don't have any use for the Nazi position. Moreover, I don't want to be associated with any message boards that are friendly toward Nazis. I like the pit, and I don't want to have to distance myself from it because its welcoming people from Stormfront or the BNP or whatever. I'd also prefer it if the FTB crowd didn't even have a ghost of a point when they referred to us as "white supremacists". I don't speak for the pit any more than you do, so obviously this is all just my opinion, but I'm not interested in making Creativity73 feel at home here.

My whole reason for rejecting FTB and the SJWs is the fact that their points mirror those of Neo-Nazis. Both of these groups seem to think the world is a battleground between White Men and everyone else, and I don't see it that way. I think race and sex have very little importance, and the faster humanity can get away from balkanizing itself into these little tribes the better we'll all be for it.
As Prussian Blue's momager is happy to tell you, the little girls who sing about the coming race war are just proud of what they are. Maybe they just think the Naziesque iconography of this Creative movement is a neat-looking symbol!

[youtube]sShFz7oHlms[/youtube]
Interesting thing about those two...
A 2012 article in the UK newspaper The Daily Mirror reported that the girls hold more liberal views than the politics they promoted through their music in their early teens. The only politics they support for example, are the legalization of marijuana. While the article characterized them as "laid-back liberals celebrating the joys of ethnic diversity", in regards to Prussian Blue, one of the sisters said: "I’m glad we were in a band, but I think we should have been pushed toward something a little more mainstream and easier for us to handle than being front-men for a belief system that we didn’t even completely understand at that time." The article speculates[21] if the twins use of marijuana (Lynx used cannabis to diminish the symptoms of her cancer) was part of their change of politics from White Nationalism to apolitical whereas a blog belonging to one of the girls says the changes are not due to any usage of cannabis.[22] The blog also features links to music videos from African-American artists (such as Little Axe), seemingly indicating a disinterest in American racial politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue

I don't feel bad for the white nationalist parents who forced them into the spotlight at age 13. This is the closest thing to karma that exists in reality.

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comhcinc wrote: .......So Voodoo?

http://www.echophotojournalism.com/site ... odoo07.jpg
You understand I am making jokes right?
Nah. You're thinking of this:

[youtube]9SSUQxGjZZ4[/youtube]

I'm talking about this:

[youtube]7kEfRHBXKIM[/youtube]

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comhcinc wrote: You understand I am making jokes right?
;)

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Old_ones wrote:
comhcinc wrote: .......So Voodoo?

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You understand I am making jokes right?
Nah. You're thinking of this:

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I'm talking about this:

[youtube7kEfRHBXKIM[/youtube]

No, I am thinking this:

[youtube]hZSAzWvFpoE[/youtube]

You are talking about this

[youtube]v-PfCYXPMdo[/youtube]

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comhcinc wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
comhcinc wrote: .......So Voodoo?

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You understand I am making jokes right?
Nah. You're thinking of this:

[youtube9SSUQxGjZZ4[/youtube]

I'm talking about this:

[youtube7kEfRHBXKIM[/youtube]

No, I am thinking this:

[youtube]hZSAzWvFpoE[/youtube]

You are talking about this

[youtube]v-PfCYXPMdo[/youtube]
OK, fair point.

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DaveDodo007 wrote:OK lets say Creativity73 is a full blown Nazi and for white supremacy. She is still here so lets ask her questions and try to understand why she holds such views without the dogpilling. What is to be lost with engaging someone from the far right, lets see what they have to say. I have no time for the left = good and the right = bad bullshit. Too many pitters are indulging in the eww right wingers have cooties and lets show my disapproval by calling them names. Hmm I wonder where I have seen that sort of behaviour before, O right the very people we call out every day. What if Creativity73 has only recently been spooked out by current events and sort succore from people who shared her fears. Or we can just be a mirror image of FTBlogs etc though fuck that for a game of totalitarians.

As far as I'm concerned, she's here to spread her ideology of hate and intolerance with the hope of gaining new recruits. I don't need to know what her motivations are or what led her to embrace white supremacy to know I don't want any part of it!

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KiwiInOz wrote:And your sons will marry bearded women.
Muscato is poly?

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Oh what the heck, everyone, let's all join the white supremacists, I've already been told I'm one because I wasn't against "white culture".

Fuck it, who cares.

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I was aware that the Prussian Blue girls had grown up intellectually and chronologically, but we are all forgetting the most important question: are they single?

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:And your sons will marry bearded women.
Muscato is poly?
Possibly, but it is indisputable that she is roly-poly. I don't know if Carrier counts that.

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Really? wrote:I'm so confused! Dozens of FTB morons claim that those who comment on the Slymepit are white supremacists. But here we are, rejecting the philosophy of white supremacism. I'm starting to doubt that we are devoted to the principles of Nazism, the subjugation or women and fascist socialist capitalist communism.
Do you even bother to read the back-channel? Lsuoma explained the false-flag-with-a-big-W-on-it plan last week.

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rayshul wrote:Oh what the heck, everyone, let's all join the white supremacists, I've already been told I'm one because I wasn't against "white culture".

Fuck it, who cares.
No. There are no neo nazis wrestlers and thus no neo nazis gifs. I would lose my ability to emote!

There have been nazis wrestlers in the long lost past For example there was Fritz Von Erich but he really didn't become a big deal until years after he dropped the nazis gimmick.

Close as we ever get to a neo nazis group was a biker gang that feuded with a black separatist group, but it was really just hinted at and never approached.

Hey could we become black separatist?

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Keating wrote:I think race is "real" in the sense that descendants of people from particular environments will be better adapted to those environments. What this means in practice today, is that it isn't necessarily racism that the fastest runners on Earth happen to all be Kenyan.
So there were all these starving people in some south-east Asian refugee camp. (This was probably back around the time of the Vietnam War.) And this chicken is seen racing through the camp, trying to escape, because it knows it is going to be eaten. Well, three different refugees grabbed it at the same time, so it was left to the Peace Corps volunteer to decide who to give the chicken to. After a moment, the Peace Corps guy gave the chicken to someone named Tanawat. Why? Because the runner goes to the Thai.

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Creativity73 wrote:
Comparing todays western society that is presumably going to be an Islamic society with present Sharia states
and speculating what the crime rate will look like here when the Muslim majority presumably introduce Sharia
I do love the misrepresentation you are propagating with this view
But do you know why your position is entirely without justification

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comhcinc wrote:
rayshul wrote:Oh what the heck, everyone, let's all join the white supremacists, I've already been told I'm one because I wasn't against "white culture".

Fuck it, who cares.
No. There are no neo nazis wrestlers and thus no neo nazis gifs. I would lose my ability to emote!

There have been nazis wrestlers in the long lost past For example there was Fritz Von Erich but he really didn't become a big deal until years after he dropped the nazis gimmick.

Close as we ever get to a neo nazis group was a biker gang that feuded with a black separatist group, but it was really just hinted at and never approached.

Hey could we become black separatist?

http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/artic ... 156_v3.gif
True story. I worked with a guy years ago whose father was a wrestler around the 1920s. His name was Killer Bebee and he was a WWI German... you know, the kind with the point on the helmet. He used to get jumped and beat up by fans after the show. Tough work.

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Old_ones wrote:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zsa9Oqc-Hlw/V ... 0_1080.jpg

:lol: :icon-lol: :icon-lol: :icon-lol:

Good to know the Christians don't have a monopoly on melodramatic propaganda...
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John D wrote: True story. I worked with a guy years ago whose father was a wrestler around the 1920s. His name was Killer Bebee and he was a WWI German... you know, the kind with the point on the helmet. He used to get jumped and beat up by fans after the show. Tough work.
If you can get me any information on that I would be really interested. There are people that really love pro wrestling and are doing whatever they can make sure this stuff isn't lost to history.


Anyway if you were a heel (bad guy) working before 88 then that was pretty common. Roddy Piper got stabbed a couple of times, Jerry Lawler would carry a starter pistol to scare fans away from his car.

Here is a short video of SuperStar Billy Graham talking about why they had to change the match order in Madison Square Garden.

[youtube]rsh1C_NSvdU[/youtube]

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So I already knew Nathan Lean was an opportunistic Regressive and a whore for the Prince of Saudi Arabia. But until now I didn't realize he was this much of an asshole. Wow.
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Skep tickle wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:BTW, the real shitfest has just started. I believe it'll be about 10 days before I do a shit that wouldn't pass through the eye of a needle.
Prepping for Super Bowel 50, eh.
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For Ape shooping may never be the same ....

http://i.imgur.com/t6fFsye.jpg

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Brive1987 wrote:For Ape shooping may never be the same ....

http://i.imgur.com/t6fFsye.jpg
Wow. In successive days, PZ has let Native Americans know he thinks they are subhumans by calling them Indians and now he is using a verboten slur for the differently abled.

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comhcinc wrote:
John D wrote: True story. I worked with a guy years ago whose father was a wrestler around the 1920s. His name was Killer Bebee and he was a WWI German... you know, the kind with the point on the helmet. He used to get jumped and beat up by fans after the show. Tough work.
If you can get me any information on that I would be really interested. There are people that really love pro wrestling and are doing whatever they can make sure this stuff isn't lost to history.


Anyway if you were a heel (bad guy) working before 88 then that was pretty common. Roddy Piper got stabbed a couple of times, Jerry Lawler would carry a starter pistol to scare fans away from his car.

Here is a short video of SuperStar Billy Graham talking about why they had to change the match order in Madison Square Garden.

[youtube]rsh1C_NSvdU[/youtube]
I haven't seen this guy in decades and he is probably deceased now. His last name was Bebee... thus the name "Killer Bebee". I doubt I can find him. Too bad.

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Oh and just to show you how far SJWism has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.

Recently Jim Cornette has a podcast and went on a five minute rant about Lucha Underground. You can hear it in the youtube video below.

[youtube]bRmlig6UePc[/youtube]

Because of those comments a lot of people started calling him a racist. That's all been in the last week. Couple months ago Jim got in trouble for after the Paris attacks for talking shit about muslims.

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Skep tickle wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:BTW, the real shitfest has just started. I believe it'll be about 10 days before I do a shit that wouldn't pass through the eye of a needle.
Prepping for Super Bowel 50, eh.
I want pics.

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John D wrote: I haven't seen this guy in decades and he is probably deceased now. His last name was Bebee... thus the name "Killer Bebee". I doubt I can find him. Too bad.
I figured the Killer would be dead. I did a google search and zero on the man. I am not asking you to go out of your way but if you can look up the guy or his family it would be cool to learn the story.

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deLurch wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:BTW, the real shitfest has just started. I believe it'll be about 10 days before I do a shit that wouldn't pass through the eye of a needle.
Prepping for Super Bowel 50, eh.
I want pics.
No. No, you don't.

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comhcinc wrote:Oh and just to show you how far SJWism has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.
Sorry Commie, but this just struck me as hilarious.

:D :D :D

Just to show you how far gonorrhea has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.

Just to show you how far my asshole has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.

Just to show you how far butter has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.

Just to show you how far homoeroticism has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.

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"Butter wrestling"...

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Oh and just to show you how far SJWism has spread even pro wrestling isn't immune to it.
Sorry Commie, but this just struck me as hilarious.

It's suppose to be the most macho redneck thing in the world right?

[youtube]1yBEZhN8Yt0[/youtube]


Skip to about 4:30 for where that picture came from. Watch for at least 1 minute.

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Lsuoma wrote:No. No, you don't.
Everyone brags about how large their shits are. I have yet to see one that would pass through the eye of a needle. Hell, spool that up and sell it on ebay to a 3D printing fanatic.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Look, Creativity73:

So far, your only contribution here has been telling us muslims will take over the Western world, and that somehow there is less crime under sharia law.

At this point, I'm not sure if you're from UKIP or a mullah. Seeing as you're a mother of seven, I have to guess you're not a mullah. But whatever point you're trying to make is, to say the least, very badly presented.

And I never hate. At worse, I just put you on ignore.
Creativity73 is most likely from the creativity movement. I base this off the user name, and the fact that they are using the creativity movement's emblem as an avatar:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... vement.jpg

The creativity movement is some kind of bizzaro cult of whiteness and white supremacy. Wikipedia has this to say:
Creativity is a religious movement that was founded as the Church of the Creator in Florida by white supremacist Ben Klassen in 1973. Klassen designed the church to offer an all-encompassing worldview based on veneration of the white race. The movement moved to North Carolina and is now based in Illinois. Two separate organisations promote Creativity: the Creativity Movement (TCM) and the Creativity Alliance (also known as the Church of Creativity). The groups have common origins.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity_%28religion%29
Yeah, Skep and Com both helped me realizing that.

When was the last time we had a real wackaloon on the Pit? Me excluded?
9/22/12

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Really? wrote:I'm so confused! Dozens of FTB morons claim that those who comment on the Slymepit are white supremacists. But here we are, rejecting the philosophy of white supremacism. I'm starting to doubt that we are devoted to the principles of Nazism, the subjugation or women and fascist socialist capitalist communism.
Really?

Fuck it then, I'm out

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Keating wrote:
Really? wrote:I'm so confused! Dozens of FTB morons claim that those who comment on the Slymepit are white supremacists. But here we are, rejecting the philosophy of white supremacism. I'm starting to doubt that we are devoted to the principles of Nazism, the subjugation or women and fascist socialist capitalist communism.
PM Steersman for access to the back channel where that goes on.
Also for the seal-fucking vids

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:"Butter wrestling"...

http://i.imgur.com/wrDJRZU.jpg
OMFG I love wrestling. It is still real to me.

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Brive1987 wrote:For Ape shooping may never be the same ....

http://i.imgur.com/t6fFsye.jpg

Art masters of the Pit, you know what must be done.

PZ...gimp suit...maybe one of his sycophants in a gimp suit with him...Becky booze PZ in a gimp suit chained to her toilet... You guys run with it.

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Lsuoma wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:BTW, the real shitfest has just started. I believe it'll be about 10 days before I do a shit that wouldn't pass through the eye of a needle.
Prepping for Super Bowel 50, eh.
First mod with a BPE!
Ah, but you may be be bi-assed. :)

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Looks like the orbit may be one step closer to getting up and running.
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