The Refuge of the Toads

[Billie from Ockham]

So from the sound of it, Stollznow has to be prepared to take Mykeru to court in order to get the video taken down, if he is willing to dig his heels in.

No problem. Just give her a moment to raise another $60k from the Great Gullible Unwashed.

(IMO, Mykeru ought to get at least 10% of the new $60k, as some kind of finder's fee.)

[VickyCaramel]

I may have mixed up the Scooby Doo episodes that I saw as a kid with those I watched with my own kids. According to Scoobypedia ... yes, such a thing exists (see Rule 43) ... the first time that the Chupacabra showed up was in 2003. mea cupla

It first showed up in the mid nineties, right about the time that the X-Files was at the height of it's popularity and hot on the heels of the movie Species.

Spooky coincidence eh?

Species.jpg

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[John D]

While we are on the subject of Scooby-doo.... here is a favorite of my kids. It is a ridiculously annoying Scooby re-mix. I apologize.... but this always cracked my kids up and we ended up dancing all around the house when we played this.

[youtube]C9SJlZd7iPs[/youtube]

[John D]

Further... I do an excellence Scooby imitation...and a decent Shaggy. What is my proof you say? The 5th and 6th graders begged me to perform my awesome Scooby when they would come to the house or see me at the school. What more proof do you need? Rroh No! He he he he he.

[Service Dog]

Bree "Olson estimates she was making $30,000 to $60,000 a month in the adult film industry before she gave up her career and parted ways with Sheen."

Waitaminute. Bree Olson never stopped doing porn.

"In an email interview with CNN she said she left the porn industry in 2011 and tried to launch several businesses that failed. She now works reluctantly as a cam model, a term for men and women who perform sex acts on live webcams for Internet customers. She has a girlfriend, and Bree Olson is not her real name."

[Service Dog]

Bree "Olson estimates she was making $30,000 to $60,000 a month in the adult film industry before she gave up her career and parted ways with Sheen."

Waitaminute. Bree Olson never stopped doing porn.

"In an email interview with CNN she said she left the porn industry in 2011 and tried to launch several businesses that failed. She now works reluctantly as a cam model, a term for men and women who perform sex acts on live webcams for Internet customers. She has a girlfriend, and Bree Olson is not her real name."

[Service Dog]

Speaking of Scooby Do... & copyright infringement cases... anybody remember U2 suing Negativland for their song-- featuring outtakes from the voice of Shaggy?...

This is a long distance dedication, going out to our long-lost Parody Accountant...

[youtube]Z6gPSSYxex0[/youtube]

[Billie from Ockham]

In my mind, the most important thing about Scooby Doo is how it outs eBay as being part of Saddam Hussein's empire of evil (or, at a minimum, one of his sons). Of course, you have to know the secret language of Pig Latin to see this.

Scoo -> coo-say (sometimes written as Qusay)

Bee -> e-bay (sometimes written as eBay)

Doo - > oo-day (sometimes written as Uday)

h/t; Alex Jones or Glenn Beck or those mushrooms I had for dinner last night

[DaveDodo007]

An answer to all the world's problems. :D

http://i.imgur.com/jxpAlX7.jpg

[Steersman]

Suicide bombing at a park in Lahore Pakistan >14 hours ago, blast was near a children's playground and many of the dead & injured are women & children.

Headline from this page: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/d ... 10195.html

Scores killed in Lahore suicide attack
A faction of Pakistan Taliban claims responsibility for deadly attack that has left 65 dead and over 300 wounded.

Wonder who will comment on it (meaning, put up a blog post about it).

Good question. I had also been wondering who, over at FTB and among its fellow-travelers, might first write about the trending of #StopIslam; my bet is on Anjuli and I might put a bug in her ear if I don't see something shortly.

But, somewhat apropos of which, another tweet for Ali Rizvi from some 18 months ago on a similar outrage in Peshawar:

Ban Islam and deport the fuckers - at least all who won't piss on the Quran; only way to be sure. Interesting though to note that the Calais refugee camp (aka, jungle) has been cleared - maybe some in high places are finally able to read the writing on the wall - and that Tony Blair has recently raised the question of whether Islam is compatible with Western democracies.

And, to round out the daily survey, something that I'm sure will warm the cockles of Andrew's heart, an article from The Federalist: How President Obama Made Syria An Unfixable Quagmire. A quotable quote or two:

“America Is In A Proxy War With Itself In Syria.” ...

Critics of any proposed intervention ask: “Well, what would you do now,” always posing the question as if the previous three years didn’t happen. As I note regularly, this is like driving a car off a cliff and then handing the steering wheel to your screaming passenger and saying: “Fine, you drive.” ....

But whatever "solution" is proposed, short of nuking Mecca - from orbit just to be sure, it shouldn't encompass importing the problems of Syria - i.e., Muslim sectarian violence and barbarisms - into Western countries in the guise of "refugees" (ha! more like fifth columns, a poisoned chalice, suicide by criminally misguided "tolerance").

[Ericb]

I may have mixed up the Scooby Doo episodes that I saw as a kid with those I watched with my own kids. According to Scoobypedia ... yes, such a thing exists (see Rule 43) ... the first time that the Chupacabra showed up was in 2003. mea cupla

It first showed up in the mid nineties, right about the time that the X-Files was at the height of it's popularity and hot on the heels of the movie Species.

Spooky coincidence eh?

Species.jpg

The X-Files had a Chupacabra episode in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Mundo_Gira

[VickyCaramel]

I may have mixed up the Scooby Doo episodes that I saw as a kid with those I watched with my own kids. According to Scoobypedia ... yes, such a thing exists (see Rule 43) ... the first time that the Chupacabra showed up was in 2003. mea cupla

It first showed up in the mid nineties, right about the time that the X-Files was at the height of it's popularity and hot on the heels of the movie Species.

Spooky coincidence eh?

Species.jpg

The X-Files had a Chupacabra episode in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Mundo_Gira

The X-Files seemed to cause a huge surge in interest in all things UFO and paranormal from 1995 onwards.

[free thoughtpolice]

[youtube]y8E5TXjEJIo[/youtube]

[Brive1987]

Louise Mench on left. I don't care if she does a steersman. That accent. :dance:

She just forgot the obligatory leg cross.

[Mr. X, Indeed]

Speaking of Scooby Do... & copyright infringement cases... anybody remember U2 suing Negativland for their song-- featuring outtakes from the voice of Shaggy?...

This is a long distance dedication, going out to our long-lost Parody Accountant...

[youtube]Z6gPSSYxex0[/youtube]

I saw them on the tour they went on to raise money for the various lawsuits they were involved in over that. It was right after John Oswald had his Plunderphonic EP shut down even though it had been freely distributed. Campbell v Acuff-Rose, over the 2 Live Crew parody, went to the Supreme Court not long after. Fair Use was all the rage in the early nineties.

Poor Snuggles.

[Brive1987]

PZ lolz are thin on the ground these days, but I always giggle when he makes excuses for why his inner real life beast remains leashed.

http://i.imgur.com/JE2jr7W.jpg

[Ape+lust]

Reading the top post on the host's webpage, it looks like own-your-shit inspirational stuff.

Kind of an odd podcast for Peez, but the way the old buzzard acts nowadays, who knows?

https://genesisofgenius.wordpress.com/2 ... e-choices/

http://imgur.com/YuzK8WT.jpg

I wonder though, if he read all the way to the bottom of this page?

Will Peez be unchaining his inner beast? Or embracing his inner woo?

We'll find out tonight :lol: :dance:

http://imgur.com/7ut6I6k.jpg

[Fezzik]

Louise Mench on left. I don't care if she does a steersman. That accent. :dance:

She just forgot the obligatory leg cross.

I was wondering what had happened to Posh Spice. Thanks.

[Michael J]

PZ lolz are thin on the ground these days, but I always giggle when he makes excuses for why his inner real life beast remains leashed.

http://i.imgur.com/JE2jr7W.jpg

Also people wanting him to talk are thin on the ground as well. This looks to really be scrapping the bucket

[Tapir]

Louise Mench on left. I don't care if she does a steersman. That accent. :dance:

She just forgot the obligatory leg cross.

I've no idea what mongrel accent she's adopted for herself but she never used to sound like that.

This is from 2011.

[Hunt]

PZ is about as vegetarian as a tapeworm.

Since tapeworms dine on their host's digesting food(*), they are arguably as vegetarian as their host.

Exactly.

[Hunt]

PZ lolz are thin on the ground these days, but I always giggle when he makes excuses for why his inner real life beast remains leashed.

http://i.imgur.com/JE2jr7W.jpg

Bruce Banner -> Incredible Hulk
PZ Myers -> ?

[Really?]

PZ lolz are thin on the ground these days, but I always giggle when he makes excuses for why his inner real life beast remains leashed.

http://i.imgur.com/JE2jr7W.jpg

Bruce Banner -> Incredible Hulk
PZ Myers -> ?

Louie Anderson.

[Cnutella]

So although I'll acknowlege Melissa McEwan's Shakesville is of the few SJW blogs I've seen acknowledging the Lahore attack (PZ has so far remained resolutely silent on it), I checkled incredulously at this:

I take up space in solidarity with the people of Lahore who were targeted by this heinous act of massive violence.

Wow. A form of activism that's even more useless and narcissistic than Twitter.

[welch]

My source is, of course, Wikipedia.

There they state four principles that are considered in some sort of soupy way:

Purpose and character of the republished work (transformation helps but is not essential)
Nature of the copyrighted work
Amount and substantiality
Effect upon the works value

They note there is no gold standard - that commercial use doesn't automatically stop reuse and neither does 100% reproduction.

IMO IANAL, purpose, nature and effect on commercial value could, in this instance, be spun into a no victim public-good argument. Which would probably lose. But not till Babs hit her high notes.

Lol no. There is no court that is going to say that taking someone's video and uploading it whole without permission and not doing anything transformative to it is okay. There is no reason you could give a court that they would buy. None. Nada. Zip. Zero.
What you would get is a stern lecture about wasting the court's time.

Jesus fuck. :lol:

No kidding. By that logic, it's totally legal to upload copies of star wars and any other movie to Pirate Bay.

[welch]

Seriously? You don't see a difference between an act that is only being reported verbally and one that is documented on film?

In terms of morality? Nope, not even a bit.

Excellent. I'll keep that in mind if the conversation ever switches to being about morality.

that's all your points are based on. Morality and the magical inability a porn star would have to maintain control of a classroom.

[welch]

PZ lolz are thin on the ground these days, but I always giggle when he makes excuses for why his inner real life beast remains leashed.

http://i.imgur.com/JE2jr7W.jpg

OH NO! PLEASE PEEZUS, PLEASE DON'T GET ALL SNARLY!

what's next, someone'll go "all orac on them"?

[NoGodsEver]

I may have mixed up the Scooby Doo episodes that I saw as a kid with those I watched with my own kids. According to Scoobypedia ... yes, such a thing exists (see Rule 43) ... the first time that the Chupacabra showed up was in 2003. mea cupla

Uh huh. Watched with your kids. Riiiight.

[NoGodsEver]

PZ lolz are thin on the ground these days, but I always giggle when he makes excuses for why his inner real life beast remains leashed.

http://i.imgur.com/JE2jr7W.jpg

I hope he doesn't find out he once had to grade that kid's paper. He wouldn't be able to contain himself at that point.

[Brive1987]

My source is, of course, Wikipedia.

There they state four principles that are considered in some sort of soupy way:

Purpose and character of the republished work (transformation helps but is not essential)
Nature of the copyrighted work
Amount and substantiality
Effect upon the works value

They note there is no gold standard - that commercial use doesn't automatically stop reuse and neither does 100% reproduction.

IMO IANAL, purpose, nature and effect on commercial value could, in this instance, be spun into a no victim public-good argument. Which would probably lose. But not till Babs hit her high notes.

Lol no. There is no court that is going to say that taking someone's video and uploading it whole without permission and not doing anything transformative to it is okay. There is no reason you could give a court that they would buy. None. Nada. Zip. Zero.
What you would get is a stern lecture about wasting the court's time.

Jesus fuck. :lol:

No kidding. By that logic, it's totally legal to upload copies of star wars and any other movie to Pirate Bay.

I suspect Star Wars would fail the 'public interest' and 'damage to future commerciality' tests.

On the otherhand the world deserves to know the basis for Stollies 60k and she will not be financially damaged by having that info out there. Gossamer, but a thread all the same.

[jimhabegger]

Okay, here's a question I would ask people who are promoting counterfeit social justice: Why shouldn't white men have safe spaces like everyone else? And how do you expect us to have any, if you persist in vandalizing every one sight?

[comhcinc]

I suspect Star Wars would fail the 'public interest' and 'damage to future commerciality' tests.

On the other hand the world deserves to know the basis for Stollies 60k and she will not be financially damaged by having that info out there. Gossamer, but a thread all the same.

I believe there is much public interest in Star Wars and it could be argued that it just acts as a commercial for future movies.

[jimhabegger]

G-- knows we need safe spaces as much as anyone else. Maybe more, in today's world.

[comhcinc]

Shithead what does that have to do with anything?

[Billie from Ockham]

Excellent. I'll keep that in mind if the conversation ever switches to being about morality.

that's all your points are based on. Morality and the magical inability a porn star would have to maintain control of a classroom.[/quote]

Either you're an idiot or I can't write.

I write for a living, have kids to feed, and need confidence to work.

Ergo, you're an idiot.

[comhcinc]

Excellent. I'll keep that in mind if the conversation ever switches to being about morality.

that's all your points are based on. Morality and the magical inability a porn star would have to maintain control of a classroom.

Either you're an idiot or I can't write.

I write for a living, have kids to feed, and need confidence to work.

Ergo, you're an idiot.[/quote]


You um well you did make a quoting error there...

[comhcinc]

Which made me make one as well, but we all know I am idiot.

[jimhabegger]

Shithead what does that have to do with anything?

Multiple studies have shown that being a white man is not a choice, and not a disease. It's part of the core of our inner being.Therefore, we should be allowed do continue doing whatever we feel like doing, no matter what the consequences might be to other people and to society, and we should be able to have safe spaces and have our feelings protected, just like everyone else. Just because we're better at getting our way than anyone else is, is no reason to discriminate against us. People are just jealous, that's all.

[comhcinc]

That was aboot a 7 on the steersman scale.

[jimhabegger]

That was aboot a 7 on the steersman scale.

Why only 7? Because it wasn't long enough?

[jimhabegger]

Or am I getting the Steersman scale confused with the Wonderist scale?

[MacGruberKnows]

So although I'll acknowlege Melissa McEwan's Shakesville is of the few SJW blogs I've seen acknowledging the Lahore attack (PZ has so far remained resolutely silent on it), I checkled incredulously at this:

I take up space in solidarity with the people of Lahore who were targeted by this heinous act of massive violence.

Wow. A form of activism that's even more useless and narcissistic than Twitter.

That is a lot of space, and none of it is solid.

[Brive1987]

I suspect Star Wars would fail the 'public interest' and 'damage to future commerciality' tests.

On the other hand the world deserves to know the basis for Stollies 60k and she will not be financially damaged by having that info out there. Gossamer, but a thread all the same.

I believe there is much public interest in Star Wars and it could be argued that it just acts as a commercial for future movies.

Not even gossamer.

[Brive1987]

Okay, here's a question I would ask people who are promoting counterfeit social justice: Why shouldn't white men have safe spaces like everyone else? And how do you expect us to have any, if you persist in vandalizing every one sight?

Privilage and power differential.

That's all you need to know.

[MacGruberKnows]

I see the preacher from The Church of Jim's Closet is doing some sidewalk preaching and counselling.

[comhcinc]

Not even gossamer.

.......What?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v7JX7LoRUB07m/200_s.gif

[jet_lagg]

that's all your points are based on. Morality and the magical inability a porn star would have to maintain control of a classroom.

Either you're an idiot or I can't write.

I write for a living, have kids to feed, and need confidence to work.

Ergo, you're an idiot.

Wasting your time dude. Your points are clearly about morality and magic, not about factors outside a person's control that could objectively impair their performance at a particular task, independent of any value judgment we could make.

[d4m10n]

Okay, here's a question I would ask people who are promoting counterfeit social justice: Why shouldn't white men have safe spaces like everyone else? And how do you expect us to have any, if you persist in vandalizing every one sight?

Privilage and power differential.

That's all you need to know.

White men still have a few spaces to themselves. Basically anywhere Bernie wins a caucus, for example.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Anybody arguing with Welch, Steersman or Baha'i Jim are wasting their time. That being said, it is their time to waste.

[comhcinc]

Anybody arguing with Welch, Steersman or Baha'i Jim are wasting their time. That being said, it is their time to waste.

I have nothing else to do. This is a boring go home show.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Anybody see Kirbmarc lately?

[Brive1987]

Anybody see Kirbmarc lately?

He will be back after he collects his hat.

[comhcinc]

Anybody see Kirbmarc lately?

Nope. Lots of people not around.

Must be spring break.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Anybody arguing with Welch, Steersman or Baha'i Jim are wasting their time. That being said, it is their time to waste.

I have nothing else to do. This is a boring go home show.

Yeah, but you're not really arguing with Jim so much as abusing him. Which is fine, but I think he thrives on it. Quite frankly, it's creeping me out a bit. Carry on.

[Brive1987]

Not even gossamer.

.......What?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v7JX7LoRUB07m/200_s.gif

Everyone needs a 'word of the day'.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Anybody see Kirbmarc lately?

He will be back after he collects his hat.

Damion might loan him one.

[comhcinc]

Not even gossamer.

.......What?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v7JX7LoRUB07m/200_s.gif

Everyone needs a 'word of the day'.

I looked it up. Still made no sense. Must be a future town thing.

Here, have a future town wrestler.

[Brive1987]

Louise Mench on left. I don't care if she does a steersman. That accent. :dance:

She just forgot the obligatory leg cross.

I've no idea what mongrel accent she's adopted for herself but she never used to sound like that.

This is from 2011.

A lesser man would have hoped to have been rick rolled with a Bree Olson video.

Me? I was more that sated. Thank you.

http://i.imgur.com/HZh9Wsh.jpg

[comhcinc]

Anybody arguing with Welch, Steersman or Baha'i Jim are wasting their time. That being said, it is their time to waste.

I have nothing else to do. This is a boring go home show.

Yeah, but you're not really arguing with Jim so much as abusing him. Which is fine, but I think he thrives on it. Quite frankly, it's creeping me out a bit. Carry on.

I don't think it's possible to argue with shithead. He would have to make sense first.

[Brive1987]

I looked it up. Still made no sense. Must be a future town thing.

Here, have a future town wrestler.

Thank you. But today is Mensch day.

All day.

Gossamer thread was how I described my pro Mykeru argument. Yours had somewhat less goss.

I feel sad now that my hilarious funny was so drole.

Here. Have some high culture.

http://i.imgur.com/R4bAJQM.jpg