http://i.imgur.com/kfRdzNY.pngTigzy wrote:Oh fuck - and then there was the time when Laden accused Welch of a DoS attack on his blog - by making a really big 'multi-megabyte' comment on it. :lol:
Still preserved, in all its fucktarded glory (check the comments): http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/ ... alypse-an/
[youtube]fwzVjsu9XvM[/youtube]another lurker wrote:Should I read
The Cruel Sea
Or
H.M.S Ulysses
Can't decide. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald has me thinking all about maritime disaster...
If you want a book with a nautical theme I recommend this:another lurker wrote:Should I read
The Cruel Sea
Or
H.M.S Ulysses
Can't decide. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald has me thinking all about maritime disaster...
I don't believe it is a trap.jimthepleb wrote:Meet Brianna, top totty!
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/imag ... OAJydX4t6w
It's a trap!
I'm more of a mountain climbing disasters kind of gal myself, but I though The Perfect Storm was pretty good.another lurker wrote:Oh damn, there is also The Perfect Storm, which I have yet to read.
I love the way some of them show extreme intellectual arrogance, Carrier does it too. 'I bet I could do his job....' Dunning Kruger at its best. These same people also seem to completely lack any self awareness and get continually caught out by the reactions to what they say. Carrier's A+ speech was a prime example. Anyone could have told him it would go down like a lead balloon yet they have a whole mental list of 'haters' they blame the reactions on. Very stupid.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:http://i.imgur.com/kfRdzNY.pngTigzy wrote:Oh fuck - and then there was the time when Laden accused Welch of a DoS attack on his blog - by making a really big 'multi-megabyte' comment on it. :lol:
Still preserved, in all its fucktarded glory (check the comments): http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/ ... alypse-an/
That was two years ago, and it hasn't been posted. He must be a very busy little man.
Suet Cardigan wrote:If you want a book with a nautical theme I recommend this:another lurker wrote:Should I read
The Cruel Sea
Or
H.M.S Ulysses
Can't decide. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald has me thinking all about maritime disaster...
BarnOwl wrote:I'm more of a mountain climbing disasters kind of gal myself, but I though The Perfect Storm was pretty good.another lurker wrote:Oh damn, there is also The Perfect Storm, which I have yet to read.
Not really a maritime disaster book per se, but Isaac's Storm, about the 1900 Galveston hurricane, is a good read as well.
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Not novels, but Touching the Void, Into Thin Air, and Eiger Dreams are all good - of the three, Into Thin Air is closest to a classic climbing disaster account. Anything by Chris Bonington would also be worth reading, as would several of the books on K2 and Everest ascents. A lot of the older mountain climbing books can be picked up at used book stores for cheap.another lurker wrote: I saw a documentary on that Galveston hurricane of 1900. Wasn't an entire offshore island washed away, essentially? From what I understand, the coastline is gradually disappearing year by year, thanks to offshore drilling and the destruction of wetlands, which are supposed to act as a buffer against such storms...
I am up for any kind of disaster. Haz you any good mountain climbing disaster novels to recommend?
"I've just been talking to Jesus" is never a good thing to hear.free thoughtpolice wrote:I know it's not cool to make psychiatric diagnoses over the internet, but is it possible this nice lady suffers from paranoid schizophrenia?
[youtube]DXoGFwdZx3E[/youtube]
Her Wikipedia page made no mention of it whatsoever. Dunno what it says now though.NoGodsEver wrote:Wait a goddamn second. I just read the Milo Y. article about Brianna Wu. It wasn't supposed to be common knowledge that she was a trans woman? WTF? If anyone says they didn't know that, they are lying through their fucking teeth.
Yes, that was me being threatened with a ban, then came his pricless "oh, I seem to not be able to do that if it's not my own thread". Then, radio silence as everybody started mocking him. Good times.Easy J wrote:Didn't Laden once get into an argument on someone else's Facebook page & unthinkingly threaten to ban them?
Tony Parsehole wrote:Her Wikipedia page made no mention of it whatsoever. Dunno what it says now though.NoGodsEver wrote:Wait a goddamn second. I just read the Milo Y. article about Brianna Wu. It wasn't supposed to be common knowledge that she was a trans woman? WTF? If anyone says they didn't know that, they are lying through their fucking teeth.
Zvan is pro gun, and as someone stated, Laden, too? Do you have sources for that? If you don't have direct links then maybe you know other information or context, where this was stated? That'll to be interesting.free thoughtpolice wrote:He did mention he read the Minnesota Atheists book with chapters by Myers, Zvan, and Laden. Zvan is pro-gun, Laden got kicked off FTB for making threats, and PZ is famous for his violent fantasies about religionists and others.Aneris, typos fixed wrote:<snip inner quotes>
Hicks' Facebbook page not only looked like a LGTB friendly, atheist, anti-theist presence. He also has typical gun-lover things in there, at the shooting range or showing off his weapon. Together with the american flag, with eagle and all it oozes "US american" and couldn't be further away from Richard Dawkins. I find this blame game just wrong and outright unreasonable but at the very least they could make it halfwayimplausible by choosing a candiate who is also into guns and US American. PZ Myers doesn't fit the bill. He might be very US centric and his horizon ends somewhere at the sidewalk across the street, but he is anti-gun. In the interest of fairness, he is an implausible candidate, too. Had the murderer used a blade or a spiky animal however ...
Whoever is checking out whether Hicks committed a hate crime should check these jokers out. Also, the SLPC might want to designate FTB a hate site.
I didn't make the claim, but here's some info:Aneris wrote:Zvan is pro gun, and as someone stated, Laden, too? Do you have sources for that? If you don't have direct links then maybe you know other information or context, where this was stated? That'll to be interesting.
... I enjoy target shooting, and I'm pretty good at it. I'd like to see what balancing gun ownership "rights" and gun control actually looks like before I say, "Hey, let's take those away." Unfortunately, the data so far are anything but unambiguous (there are lots of reasons we're not terribly comparable to other countries in terms of violence), and even starting to sort out the situation brings people hollering. So this post, and others like it, are an attempt to address the various common arguments so I'm not starting over from scratch each time. ...
- Her usual tone is on display throughout her comments, esp some others.Erik, I'm probably a better shot than you are. I have a freezer full of venison. I haven't anywhere advocated for the banning of guns, even handguns.
That you think you're responsible enough to handle guns safely would be much more impressive if you weren't (1) parroting what everyone says about owning a gun, even when they've just shot someone accidentally; (2) telling us your confidence is based on being somehow different from other people; (3) declaring your intention to use your gun when your mind is clouded by your fear; and (4) telling us flat out that you're resistant to any evidence that might make you think any differently about gun safety. As it is, you're one of the people who keeps me from shooting as much as I'd like to. I don't want to spend the time around dangerous idiots.
... We have discussed gun ownership on this blog, Almost Diamonds, and Greg Laden’s blog, as a running conversation, for many many months, and it has never been simplistic.
Of course, the occasional on dimensional gun nut such as your self does come along, with your NRA playbook (talk about simplistic) and RUINZ IT FOR EVERYBODY!!!
Get a brain, moran.
Zvan, in blogpost, wrote:There are other countries, other cultures where guns are owned and handled more responsibly than they are here. There could be a healthier gun culture here I think. I see bits of it among friends who own guns. I think my household is part of it, mostly.
Still, it’s something that lives largely only in its potential. Good culture, good gun practices and attitudes can only grow so much in isolation. The more minds dedicated to building a healthy culture, the faster and better it will grow.
We don’t have many minds dedicated to a healthy gun culture in our country. Those there are don’t have many opportunities to get together and share ideas, which is also required for growth. Why? Because every time the conversation starts, people jump up to defend and reinforce one of the unhealthiest gun cultures in the world. ...
Zvan, in comment 7, wrote:
I use a gun for target shooting. I’m quite good at it. That doesn’t mean I mistake the use I put the gun to and the use the gun was designed for. Nor do I ignore the fact that one is practice for the other or that there are plenty of other things I could use to put holes in paper targets.
Nor is a gun going to be useful as a threat unless its purpose is to kill.
Don’t be obtuse.
In fairness, I could conceive of what job Laden could possibly hold down either.JackSkeptic wrote:I love the way some of them show extreme intellectual arrogance, Carrier does it too. 'I bet I could do his job....' Dunning Kruger at its best. These same people also seem to completely lack any self awareness and get continually caught out by the reactions to what they say. Carrier's A+ speech was a prime example. Anyone could have told him it would go down like a lead balloon yet they have a whole mental list of 'haters' they blame the reactions on. Very stupid.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:http://i.imgur.com/kfRdzNY.pngTigzy wrote:Oh fuck - and then there was the time when Laden accused Welch of a DoS attack on his blog - by making a really big 'multi-megabyte' comment on it. :lol:
Still preserved, in all its fucktarded glory (check the comments): http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/ ... alypse-an/
That was two years ago, and it hasn't been posted. He must be a very busy little man.
Is that you, Parsehole?Guest wrote:
"Welsh is nothing but malace."JackSkeptic wrote:I love the way some of them show extreme intellectual arrogance, Carrier does it too. 'I bet I could do his job....' Dunning Kruger at its best. These same people also seem to completely lack any self awareness and get continually caught out by the reactions to what they say. Carrier's A+ speech was a prime example. Anyone could have told him it would go down like a lead balloon yet they have a whole mental list of 'haters' they blame the reactions on. Very stupid.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:http://i.imgur.com/kfRdzNY.pngTigzy wrote:Oh fuck - and then there was the time when Laden accused Welch of a DoS attack on his blog - by making a really big 'multi-megabyte' comment on it. :lol:
Still preserved, in all its fucktarded glory (check the comments): http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/ ... alypse-an/
That was two years ago, and it hasn't been posted. He must be a very busy little man.
I noticed that he spelt moron as moran in another piece somebody quoted about Laden.
Forget her Wiki page. All I am saying is that anyone that has seen and/or heard her speak would know she's trans. I don't get how this is supposed to be a secret or surprise or some shit.Tony Parsehole wrote:Her Wikipedia page made no mention of it whatsoever. Dunno what it says now though.NoGodsEver wrote:Wait a goddamn second. I just read the Milo Y. article about Brianna Wu. It wasn't supposed to be common knowledge that she was a trans woman? WTF? If anyone says they didn't know that, they are lying through their fucking teeth.
That was a joke. A picture of a war supporter chiding anti-war protesters had everyone spelling it "moran" for a while.Michael J wrote:I noticed that he spelt moron as moran in another piece somebody quoted about Laden.
Today, of course, there is no radical atheist terror network. But this does not make atheists immune to fanaticism or hatred toward those who believe differently than they do. Ironically, that includes Myers himself: In a blog last year discussing a Christian movie in which a fatally injured atheist professor is persuaded by two missionaries to embrace Jesus, he wrote, "Just so all you Christians know, if I'm in a fatal accident . . . you try to pull that prayer-and-conversion [expletive] on me, I'm going to stab you."
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:I don't get what you're saying. So why have they dropped 3 points off an EA game?Tribble wrote:For those who wondered if GamerGate was about journalistic integrity... This is from Polygon. They give SimCity a 6.5. That's after three major patches fixing a lot of huge problems:
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/u ... 40x237.png
The first review score they gave it was 9.5 when it was a steaming, unplayable pile of shit breaking the hearts of SimCity fans worldwide. So it begs the question of how a game has substantially improved, yet dropped 3/10 in the ratings. Well, it's simple, EA is big and spend more money every year in marketing than in software development and Polygon, who is almost entirely dependent on big developer marketing money, will lie about anything and everything when it comes to sucking EAs marketing tit.
Sunder wrote:At this point the game's been out for long enough that EA isn't spending big bucks marketing it anymore, so they're permitted to lower the rating to something closer to what it deserves.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:I don't get what you're saying. So why have they dropped 3 points off an EA game?
Fucking liar he was fired for internal reasons and absolutely not that other thing!Tribble wrote:There is that. I still remember Gerstman getting fired after Edios pulled the advertising budget for Kane & Lynch: Deadmen from Gamespot because he gave it a 6.5. And that was in 2007, it's only gotten worse since then.Sunder wrote:At this point the game's been out for long enough that EA isn't spending big bucks marketing it anymore, so they're permitted to lower the rating to something closer to what it deserves.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:I don't get what you're saying. So why have they dropped 3 points off an EA game?
free thoughtpolice wrote:Yes, but he REFUSES to rape women.Shatterface as Guest wrote:Was it he who came up with the 'rape switch' that apparently all men have?franc wrote:Laden also earned Idiot Hall of Fame status by claiming men are testosterone damaged women. Yes, for real.
Shatterface
The gaming press has been corrupt since its inception and everyone knows it and has done for years (30+) The Zoe Quinn thing only became an issue due to their attacks on gamers and the realization even Indi gaming was corrupt. Indi gaming had the concept of being by the people for the people. The SJW's crapped all over that idea. But SJW's can't help but go into a massive hissy fit if they are disagreed with or faced up to. The results were inevitable as the anti-gg crowd who seem to consist of beta males (suckers who donate), the political opportunists (Myers) and NPD sufferers (Wu) as well as the willfully ignorant and malicious (most of the rest) jostled to jump on the hate train.Tribble wrote:Sunder wrote:At this point the game's been out for long enough that EA isn't spending big bucks marketing it anymore, so they're permitted to lower the rating to something closer to what it deserves.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:I don't get what you're saying. So why have they dropped 3 points off an EA game?
There is that. I still remember Gerstman getting fired after Edios pulled the advertising budget for Kane & Lynch: Deadmen from Gamespot because he gave it a 6.5. And that was in 2007, it's only gotten worse since then.
Correction to the above picture. That one did not have his rape switch showing.Scented Nectar wrote:free thoughtpolice wrote:Yes, but he REFUSES to rape women.
Bullshit. It was well know, despite Gamespot's denial and Gamespot actually admitted to it during the vetting process of the Giant Bomb was being acquired in a merger in 2012 where the entire issue had to be disclosed, you'd know that shit if you paid attention:Guest wrote:
Fucking liar he was fired for internal reasons and absolutely not that other thing!
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/spot-o ... 0-6183666/
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... nn-davisonGertsmann and Davison held the live video discussion in order to put some of the things from the past to rest. "We don't want to dredge up old wounds or anything like that; we want to put it behind us and show people we're very cool with this," explained Davison. The story has never been told before, since legally Gerstmann was unable to talk about being fired in 2007 due to non-disclosure agreements he signed at that time. Gerstmann told Davison at the beginning of their discussion that the story would have to come out if this deal was to go through, and Davison agreed to release Gerstmann from those non-disclosure agreements. (Davison has only been at GameSpot for 18 months, so he was not around when the firing occurred.)
In 2007 GameSpot had a new management team in place who hadn't worked closely with an editorial team before. At the time, Gerstmann was editorial director with a primary responsibility for reviews, and he and his team had just rolled out a new review scoring system. There was a noticeable effect on GameSpot scores, which dropped about a full point on average from what they had been before. This didn't really come to Gerstmann's attention until he was called into a room to discuss the low scores for the latest Ratchet & Clank game, which had occasioned angry comments from the publisher. That created great concern among management about possible loss of revenue, but Gerstmann refused to change the review.
The issue seemed settled, but then Kane & Lynch: Dead Men came up for review and received a 6/10 score. The publisher of the game threatened to pull their advertising money, which happens from time to time in the business, according to Davison. In this case the publisher (Eidos) had been advertising the game heavily on the GameSpot site. Davison noted that the standard response to circumstances like this is to make sure there are no inaccuracies in the review, and just move forward and eventually it will blow over. In this case, the management team was not used to the standard operating procedure for game reviewers and thought that this situation represented a major crisis. The review went up, and things were tense around the office; multiple discussions took place about the review, but Gerstmann didn't budge.
There were no management moves immediately, but not long thereafter Gerstmann was taken by surprise when he was called into a room and terminated, effective immediately. The reason expressed to Gerstmann was that management felt they couldn't trust him in his role. "The management team buckled when faced with a lot of advertising dollars walking out the door," said Gerstmann. Penny Arcade picked up on the story, although they could only report rumors and speculation since Gerstmann couldn't talk about the incident. Gerstmann's phone started ringing off the hook, which eventually led to the formation of Giant Bomb. Shortly after Gerstmann's firing, there was an exodus of staffers who left GameSpot in response to the incident; many of them eventually went to work with Gerstmann at Giant Bomb.
Yeah, Shadows of Mordor just went through that with TotalBiscut and Boogie2988 ratting them out. The contract included the following:JackSkeptic wrote:
The gaming press has been corrupt since its inception and everyone knows it and has done for years (30+) The Zoe Quinn thing only became an issue due to their attacks on gamers and the realization even Indi gaming was corrupt. Indi gaming had the concept of being by the people for the people. The SJW's crapped all over that idea. But SJW's can't help but go into a massive hissy fit if they are disagreed with or faced up to. The results were inevitable as the anti-gg crowd who seem to consist of beta males (suckers who donate), the political opportunists (Myers) and NPD sufferers (Wu) as well as the willfully ignorant and malicious (most of the rest) jostled to jump on the hate train.
Interestingly is was predicted that Sarkeesian would manage to cash in at some stage which would be tricky as she does not play games or know anything about them or the industry. It shows the level of her expertise and McIntoshes that she did this so successfully. Eat your hear out Watson, watch a Pro in action. She don't even play games and you do.
It's all Youtube now anyway if people want an honest review. Youtubers are keeping out of it or leaning pro-gg. Of course that's fine for GG'ers but the Anti-GG's shoot themselves in the foot with their with us or against us narrative, managing to piss off a lot of youtube personalities simply for stating they prefer not to take sides. Maybe they could have asked Carrier how that worked out for him. So they have lost the war and its all over bar some skirmishing and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Devs are now talking direct to consumers in podcasts and beta testing. People look at Youtube if they want real opinion. The days of the gaming press are numbered. Attempts at control and bribery are now openly disclosed and rejected. Big companies are seriously angry at upset customers and they won't forget. The SJW's will only bring it down faster which is what they have realised but its too late. That US cop episode brought it home to them what they have done which is why they were so unhappy about it. Tough luck.
And we have Machinima that crossed the line with the FTC because of their undisclosed promotional deal with the XBox One and Electronic Arts was certainly not one to be out-done:Maximise awareness for the game during the ‘week of vengeance’
Persuade viewers to purchase game
Not show bugs or glitches that may exist
Discuss the story
Include discussion of the Nemesis system – “this really should take up the bulk of the focus, such as how different the orcs are, how vivid their personalises are†etc.
And CoD Ghosts... And so it goes. Yet the SJWs keep trying to make it about Zoe Quinn's well-used vagina. As if many of the 'basement dwelling, pro-gamergate' neckbeards wouldn't want to use that vagina, too. But knowing they'll never get the change, focus on what was important to them -- integrity.Electronic Arts... issued, denying that they did anything wrong, even though there is ample evidence that NDAs were put into place for the Ronku campaigns that directly violated the guidelines of the FTC.
Then do a better job rather than toe the corporate line. Because there are plenty who still do.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Tribble:
There's a very good chance Guest was being sarcastic...
Yes, and I think that was s/h/it's point. At least that how I read it.Tribble wrote:Then do a better job rather than toe the corporate line. Because there are plenty who still do.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Tribble:
There's a very good chance Guest was being sarcastic...
Just before Nicholas Montserrat died, he started a trilogy about a Flying Dutchman type of character, doomed to live and die endlessly upon the sea. He finished the first book (The Master Mariner) and got most of the way through the second (Darken Ship). I found them better than The Cruel Sea, a book ruined by trite over analysis when studying it for English Lit O level.another lurker wrote:Should I read
The Cruel Sea
Or
H.M.S Ulysses
Can't decide. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald has me thinking all about maritime disaster...
It's not just journalistic integrity, there's other things at play, for example there seems to be a fair bit of corruption and nepotism in the indie gaming scene.Tribble wrote:Yeah, Shadows of Mordor just went through that with TotalBiscut and Boogie2988 ratting them out. The contract included the following:JackSkeptic wrote:
The gaming press has been corrupt since its inception and everyone knows it and has done for years (30+) The Zoe Quinn thing only became an issue due to their attacks on gamers and the realization even Indi gaming was corrupt. Indi gaming had the concept of being by the people for the people. The SJW's crapped all over that idea. But SJW's can't help but go into a massive hissy fit if they are disagreed with or faced up to. The results were inevitable as the anti-gg crowd who seem to consist of beta males (suckers who donate), the political opportunists (Myers) and NPD sufferers (Wu) as well as the willfully ignorant and malicious (most of the rest) jostled to jump on the hate train.
Interestingly is was predicted that Sarkeesian would manage to cash in at some stage which would be tricky as she does not play games or know anything about them or the industry. It shows the level of her expertise and McIntoshes that she did this so successfully. Eat your hear out Watson, watch a Pro in action. She don't even play games and you do.
It's all Youtube now anyway if people want an honest review. Youtubers are keeping out of it or leaning pro-gg. Of course that's fine for GG'ers but the Anti-GG's shoot themselves in the foot with their with us or against us narrative, managing to piss off a lot of youtube personalities simply for stating they prefer not to take sides. Maybe they could have asked Carrier how that worked out for him. So they have lost the war and its all over bar some skirmishing and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Devs are now talking direct to consumers in podcasts and beta testing. People look at Youtube if they want real opinion. The days of the gaming press are numbered. Attempts at control and bribery are now openly disclosed and rejected. Big companies are seriously angry at upset customers and they won't forget. The SJW's will only bring it down faster which is what they have realised but its too late. That US cop episode brought it home to them what they have done which is why they were so unhappy about it. Tough luck.
And we have Machinima that crossed the line with the FTC because of their undisclosed promotional deal with the XBox One and Electronic Arts was certainly not one to be out-done:Maximise awareness for the game during the ‘week of vengeance’
Persuade viewers to purchase game
Not show bugs or glitches that may exist
Discuss the story
Include discussion of the Nemesis system – “this really should take up the bulk of the focus, such as how different the orcs are, how vivid their personalises are†etc.
And CoD Ghosts... And so it goes. Yet the SJWs keep trying to make it about Zoe Quinn's well-used vagina. As if many of the 'basement dwelling, pro-gamergate' neckbeards wouldn't want to use that vagina, too. But knowing they'll never get the change, focus on what was important to them -- integrity.Electronic Arts... issued, denying that they did anything wrong, even though there is ample evidence that NDAs were put into place for the Ronku campaigns that directly violated the guidelines of the FTC.
Skep tickle wrote:FWIW: Ben Zvan photo, 2/2010, "Gun Control":
Comments below include BZ saying "I passed the test. The outliers are the 10-round rapid-fire" and, after receiving congrats on his controlled shooting w/ gun and w/ camera, "Thanks... I do what I can and what I enjoy."
Thanx Skeppers, that's a great find. So, there is actually an atheism plus (sjw-atheist) type who is american and pro gun, is interested in the Minnesotan atheist scene for some reason, thinks that guns should be in responsible hands and probably deems their own hands worthy of the responsibility and their name isn't Hicks, but Laden and Zvan.Skep tickle wrote:Almost Diamonds, 12/2012, "Rushing to Be Part of the Gun Problem" - https://archive.today/a2gCEZvan, in blogpost, wrote:There are other countries, other cultures where guns are owned and handled more responsibly than they are here. There could be a healthier gun culture here I think. I see bits of it among friends who own guns. I think my household is part of it, mostly.
Still, it’s something that lives largely only in its potential. Good culture, good gun practices and attitudes can only grow so much in isolation. The more minds dedicated to building a healthy culture, the faster and better it will grow.
We don’t have many minds dedicated to a healthy gun culture in our country. Those there are don’t have many opportunities to get together and share ideas, which is also required for growth. Why? Because every time the conversation starts, people jump up to defend and reinforce one of the unhealthiest gun cultures in the world. ...Zvan, in comment 7, wrote:
I use a gun for target shooting. I’m quite good at it. That doesn’t mean I mistake the use I put the gun to and the use the gun was designed for. Nor do I ignore the fact that one is practice for the other or that there are plenty of other things I could use to put holes in paper targets.
Nor is a gun going to be useful as a threat unless its purpose is to kill.
Don’t be obtuse.
Yes, the illusion over the years was that the Indie scene was about meritocracy and it did not matter what gender or race you were or which political philosophy you supported. The best games rose to the top. It was all about the game. It turned out all that was simply not true and the gaming press was complicit in that through having common marketing companies, financial interests, favoritism and bribes. People think the corruption was just about Zoe Quinn but when the gamer press colluded to attack all gamers and played the misogynist card people started digging and found the whole lot were rotten to the core. Quinn was old news fast although the pro-GG kept going on about her to set her up as a victim. Typical SJW ploy.Karmakin wrote:It's not just journalistic integrity, there's other things at play, for example there seems to be a fair bit of corruption and nepotism in the indie gaming scene.Tribble wrote:Yeah, Shadows of Mordor just went through that with TotalBiscut and Boogie2988 ratting them out. The contract included the following:JackSkeptic wrote:
The gaming press has been corrupt since its inception and everyone knows it and has done for years (30+) The Zoe Quinn thing only became an issue due to their attacks on gamers and the realization even Indi gaming was corrupt. Indi gaming had the concept of being by the people for the people. The SJW's crapped all over that idea. But SJW's can't help but go into a massive hissy fit if they are disagreed with or faced up to. The results were inevitable as the anti-gg crowd who seem to consist of beta males (suckers who donate), the political opportunists (Myers) and NPD sufferers (Wu) as well as the willfully ignorant and malicious (most of the rest) jostled to jump on the hate train.
Interestingly is was predicted that Sarkeesian would manage to cash in at some stage which would be tricky as she does not play games or know anything about them or the industry. It shows the level of her expertise and McIntoshes that she did this so successfully. Eat your hear out Watson, watch a Pro in action. She don't even play games and you do.
It's all Youtube now anyway if people want an honest review. Youtubers are keeping out of it or leaning pro-gg. Of course that's fine for GG'ers but the Anti-GG's shoot themselves in the foot with their with us or against us narrative, managing to piss off a lot of youtube personalities simply for stating they prefer not to take sides. Maybe they could have asked Carrier how that worked out for him. So they have lost the war and its all over bar some skirmishing and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Devs are now talking direct to consumers in podcasts and beta testing. People look at Youtube if they want real opinion. The days of the gaming press are numbered. Attempts at control and bribery are now openly disclosed and rejected. Big companies are seriously angry at upset customers and they won't forget. The SJW's will only bring it down faster which is what they have realised but its too late. That US cop episode brought it home to them what they have done which is why they were so unhappy about it. Tough luck.
And we have Machinima that crossed the line with the FTC because of their undisclosed promotional deal with the XBox One and Electronic Arts was certainly not one to be out-done:Maximise awareness for the game during the ‘week of vengeance’
Persuade viewers to purchase game
Not show bugs or glitches that may exist
Discuss the story
Include discussion of the Nemesis system – “this really should take up the bulk of the focus, such as how different the orcs are, how vivid their personalises are†etc.
And CoD Ghosts... And so it goes. Yet the SJWs keep trying to make it about Zoe Quinn's well-used vagina. As if many of the 'basement dwelling, pro-gamergate' neckbeards wouldn't want to use that vagina, too. But knowing they'll never get the change, focus on what was important to them -- integrity.Electronic Arts... issued, denying that they did anything wrong, even though there is ample evidence that NDAs were put into place for the Ronku campaigns that directly violated the guidelines of the FTC.
But all of it comes down to basically one thing. In-group/out-group bias. That's basically what this whole fight is about. It's about the idea that by being in the in-group one is treated significantly better than one who is in the out-group, and people who see that as being troubling, and that there needs to be disclosure and systematic things in place to push back against those effects.
Which of course, was a big part of the whole Atheism+ thing as well. It's a way of creating clear delineations between "us" and "them". In reality we're in the middle of a big culture war about the growing influence of social power and how it can be used and abused, and this is just one part of it.
Lol, my gf lives on Ørnevejfeathers wrote:Ekstrabladet think they have a name.
I misread the place where he was shot, it was near Nørrebro station, not Norreport. Which puts the episode 300 meter from my place. In summer I would have been able to hear the shooting.
Interestingly, Svanevej also houses the HQ of Hells Angels DK, who hate 'perkere' (slang for immigrants) with a vengeance on account of their competition on the hash market. Good thing he didn't try to hide there, they'd have kill... oh no wait.
In 2007, several people were arrested for the Glasvej bomb plot. I don't need to explain where Glasvej is, do I?
no idea about zvan. Know for a fact that laden hates guns and gun culture. Laden once joked that he always had a gun and a pitbull with him (but it was not an obvious joke at first glance). He's written dozens of posts against gun culture.Aneris wrote:Zvan is pro gun, and as someone stated, Laden, too? Do you have sources for that? If you don't have direct links then maybe you know other information or context, where this was stated? That'll to be interesting.free thoughtpolice wrote:He did mention he read the Minnesota Atheists book with chapters by Myers, Zvan, and Laden. Zvan is pro-gun, Laden got kicked off FTB for making threats, and PZ is famous for his violent fantasies about religionists and others.Aneris, typos fixed wrote:<snip inner quotes>
Hicks' Facebbook page not only looked like a LGTB friendly, atheist, anti-theist presence. He also has typical gun-lover things in there, at the shooting range or showing off his weapon. Together with the american flag, with eagle and all it oozes "US american" and couldn't be further away from Richard Dawkins. I find this blame game just wrong and outright unreasonable but at the very least they could make it halfwayimplausible by choosing a candiate who is also into guns and US American. PZ Myers doesn't fit the bill. He might be very US centric and his horizon ends somewhere at the sidewalk across the street, but he is anti-gun. In the interest of fairness, he is an implausible candidate, too. Had the murderer used a blade or a spiky animal however ...
Whoever is checking out whether Hicks committed a hate crime should check these jokers out. Also, the SLPC might want to designate FTB a hate site.
My quibble about the "ethics in games journalism" line is that it seems rather small potatoes when the same problems exist across all journalism. The Internet means that no news source has worked out a way to charge for the news; advertisers have them all by the short and curlies. Even before the Internet, most newspapers were so full of ads, it was clear the reader was the product, not the customer. Add to that that the Fourth Estate has decided it has to compete with Twitter, means being first is more important than being correct, and there's very little that's actually trustworthy. The 'journalists' who do best in this environment are those who come from privilege, have nonsense degrees like Communications or Gender Studies, and are raging against their daddy's money while happily living off it to generate fame for themselves. All that's before the heavily incestuous relationship between politicians and journalists. Political journalists are so reliant on being 'on the inside', that they no longer have the independence to write against their sources, and thus function primarily as PR agents. It's all a problem that's only going to get worse as there is no obvious solution.JackSkeptic wrote:<snip>
The issue with games sites is that they are not only selling news but also products through their reviews. So they are colluding to steal directly from the pockets of consumers. Marketing is to me a form of legal stealing but with the games media it has crossed to actual stealing. So it is not small potatoes at all as millions of consumers, include kids and people on low budgets, are making buying decisions based on lies. Experienced games, such as myself, do not get caught out. Their actions are criminal but it is a sorry state of the world that no action will be taken. For gamers this is a serious matter especially as they find themselves under vicious attack for bringing it up.Keating wrote:My quibble about the "ethics in games journalism" line is that it seems rather small potatoes when the same problems exist across all journalism. The Internet means that no news source has worked out a way to charge for the news; advertisers have them all by the short and curlies. Even before the Internet, most newspapers were so full of ads, it was clear the reader was the product, not the customer. Add to that that the Fourth Estate has decided it has to compete with Twitter, means being first is more important than being correct, and there's very little that's actually trustworthy. The 'journalists' who do best in this environment are those who come from privilege, have nonsense degrees like Communications or Gender Studies, and are raging against their daddy's money while happily living off it to generate fame for themselves. All that's before the heavily incestuous relationship between politicians and journalists. Political journalists are so reliant on being 'on the inside', that they no longer have the independence to write against their sources, and thus function primarily as PR agents. It's all a problem that's only going to get worse as there is no obvious solution.JackSkeptic wrote:<snip>
Aye. Cenk Uyger and Sam Harris was the last time I watched anything Cenk Uyger.Sunder wrote:One of these days I need to force myself to sit through Cenk Uyger's interviews of Sam Harris and Karen Straughan in their entirety.
I keep trying but they're so cringey.
I remember that. I too concluded it was a joke, after being unable to find the following news story anywhere:Parody Accountant wrote: ...laden hates guns and gun culture. Laden once joked that he always had a gun and a pitbull with him (but it was not an obvious joke at first glance). He's written dozens of posts against gun culture.
There was a reason I used the "absolutely not" line repeated so often in the link I linked, because it was pretty hilarious on the surface. :PPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Yes, and I think that was s/h/it's point. At least that how I read it.Tribble wrote:Then do a better job rather than toe the corporate line. Because there are plenty who still do.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Tribble:
There's a very good chance Guest was being sarcastic...
JackSkeptic wrote:Yes, the illusion over the years was that the Indie scene was about meritocracy and it did not matter what gender or race you were or which political philosophy you supported. The best games rose to the top. It was all about the game. It turned out all that was simply not true and the gaming press was complicit in that through having common marketing companies, financial interests, favoritism and bribes. People think the corruption was just about Zoe Quinn but when the gamer press colluded to attack all gamers and played the misogynist card people started digging and found the whole lot were rotten to the core. Quinn was old news fast although the pro-GG kept going on about her to set her up as a victim. Typical SJW ploy.
Unlike the atheist community though people in GG are not spineless so despite its complexity a lot has been done to rid gaming of the parasites. There is plenty more to do but the anti-gg have damaged themselves so much they will fade away to an anecdote in gaming history.
From the comment thread at the link to Laden's blog in Zvan's 2010 post I archive-linked ~12 hrs ago (italics below as in original; bolding added by me):Parody Accountant wrote:no idea about zvan. Know for a fact that laden hates guns and gun culture. Laden once joked that he always had a gun and a pitbull with him (but it was not an obvious joke at first glance). He's written dozens of posts against gun culture.
Laden, in comment 18, wrote:Well, I’ve chased off a handful of buglers in my time with nothing more than my deep male voice and the element of surprise. I think in most cases, if I had a gun I could have gotten off a shot and probably winged the person. But in stead I just made them go away.
Then there was this one:
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/ ... r_of_b.php
Laden, in comment 19 wrote:I’m adding it up in my head and I think there’s been about a dozen times for me, not counting occasions with dog assist.
Oh, by the way, if you (anyone) is thinking of getting a gun to protect yourself, consider a dog instead. Professional burlers know how to handle a dog, but a) they also know how to handle you’re gun and b) a well trained dog can handle a professional burler, if you get the right breed/size.
I’ve tended to live in vulnerable areas.
Laden, in comment 49 wrote:I’m sorry, I didn’t see that mentioned in the story, how did you come by that information? Stupid teenagers, who by the way can be quite competent liars by that age, said so? Did you know of their plan but do nothing to stop it?
John, aka “Disgusted,†you are a real piece of work.
How do I know this? It helps that this is a case where one of my neighbors shot another one of my neighbors. But actually, these details are also in the police report and in a couple of the several different published newspaper accounts of the time.
I love the way you blame society for your utter stupidity in the rest of your post.
Your wording in the post you signed as “Disgusted†is a bit over the top. Clarify real real nice, or simply apologize, and I’ll let you off. Consider yourself on notice.
And if you think I won’t inform your employers out there on {name of street} what you’ve been using your work computer for, you are quite mistaken. I can’t tell you how many meetings I’ve been to in that building in my job as one of those highly paid consultants you see walking by now and then.
Happy fucking earth day, “John.â€
Bang.
It could be even worse. Buglers and professional burlers might invade your home.Aneris wrote:Life's tough in the US. When you don't watch out, burglars steal your stuff or the native attack your fort out of a sudden. Better have a gun ready.
