TheMudbrooker wrote:welch wrote:
No you fucking twat, I don't know if you have any experience doing it or not. You're the one making that claim. I said shit like that, even if it's a carnie trick is still not easy to do.
if you're going to claim you can perfectly replicate the EXACT SAME TRICK the guy in the video did, then you need to provide evidence such as:
You know for a fact exactly what kind of wood the plank is, and if it's not just cut ala normal planks exactly how it's put together.
You know for a fact exactly how he does the trick, even though, as far as we can tell, you have the exact same source we do. If you have better sources, by all means, name them.
Oh, and while you're at it, *prove* beyond all reasonable doubt that what happens in the video is in fact, a carnie trick or similar. I would love to see the ironclad evidence of even that.
Doing a similar trick with the same end result is not the same as doing EXACTLY what he did, in the same way that two different ways of building a canoe, even though the end canoes are nigh-identical, are not the same ways of building the fucking things.
By all means post the video, and even post extra clips of how you set the trick up, and how it relates to the original video. It'll be kind of cool to see. But I still fail to see how this "humiliates" me in any way shape or form, because it's not disproving anything I've said.
Where EXACTLY did I say I was going to do the trick EXACTLY the same way? As you rightly point out, the original video provides little in the way of evidence as to how the trick is done. Taking that as a given, which is more likely, that the end result is the product of intensive training and practice as you claim, or is it the product of a simple trick as I have said? You've said that the skill involved relates to the driving of the nail through the board, I say you're wrong, the real skill in the trick lies elsewhere and you've yet to even come close to mentioning what that skill might be. Yes indeed, it may be possible for a person with enough training and practice to actually drive a nail through a common board with their bare hands, but again, the original video provides no proof that that is what you are seeing.
As for your later post where you just can't understand why I might be annoyed with you, the answer is simple, throughout this exchange your tone has been that of a snotty, condecsending teenage girl. You've yet to miss an opportunity to get in a cutesey little dig or to project your own shitty attitude onto me.
If I wanted shit like that, I'd be over at Skepchick conversing with Rebecca Watson.
So I don't talk how you like, and therefore, by driving a nail through a board with your hand, you win.
I'm sorry, I have no idea how to respond to a concept that fucking stupid and lame in any way but how I just did. Wait, if I turn it up to 11, will you use your forehead? Maybe your cornea?
I'm curious now, is that how it works? The more snotty I get, the more stupid you get? If I really work hard, you'll do progressively more idiotic stunts just to show me...well, I have no idea what you're going to show me, because now, I don't even know what you're showing me in the first place other than you're easily manipulated by PEOPLE YOU HAVE NEVER MET NOR KNOW.
Just be warned, I am NOT good with power, I will abuse that shit. If i think that by calling you "Beavis" a lot, i can get you to drive a nail through a brick via you jumping off a building and hitting it with your anus, I'm going to view that as a goal.
(also this bit?
As you rightly point out, the original video provides little in the way of evidence as to how the trick is done. Taking that as a given, which is more likely, that the end result is the product of intensive training and practice as you claim, or is it the product of a simple trick as I have said? You've said that the skill involved relates to the driving of the nail through the board, I say you're wrong, the real skill in the trick lies elsewhere and you've yet to even come close to mentioning what that skill might be. Yes indeed, it may be possible for a person with enough training and practice to actually drive a nail through a common board with their bare hands, but again, the original video provides no proof that that is what you are seeing.
I know you think you know what you think I said, but what you heard isn't what you think. I'm not saying it is or is not a trick. I don't have enough proof either way. Russians are kind of crazy, so either is possible. What I've been saying, if you'd read, is that
even if it is a trick, even if it is definitely a trick, ala carnie tricks, or street corner "follow the queen" tricks, that even *tricks* take some practice and skill to do *well*.
Magic tricks are a good example. Even simple beginner's tricks like the classic "where'd the quarter go" take some practice and skill to do smoothly. Obviously, the harder the trick, the more practice and skill involved.
If he's REALLY driving a nail through a board, then that's also a trick of a different nature, and takes some different kind of practice and skill.
But please, do go on and tell me how you're going to humiliate me by driving a nail through a board with your hand.
Oh, you know what would make me curl up in a ball and cry? If you nailed your scrotum to a board and then ran a 5K.
And, if you put a brick up your ass and then used it to break a bottle, I MIGHT be suicidal.
Just in case.