Bleeding from the Bunghole

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Southern » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:20 pm  •  [Post 20086]

welch wrote:
Given many of us neither read his feed nor attempt to tweet at him, him blocking us has all the effect of me building a martian trap in my basement*




*i live in florida. I've no basement. Which makes the trap DOUBLY cunning.


HOW DARE HIM TO BLOCK ME?!!!!! CURSE YOU THUMBLEFUD! CURSE YOU!!!!!!!! I FEEL ENRAGED AND OFFENDED! STOP IT! STOP IT NOW OR ELSE!

There, a negative reaction. I hope he's happy now. I'm always eager to help a poor FTB soul to feel better; their usual crankiness is kinda sad.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:21 pm  •  [Post 20087]

jet_lagg wrote:Not sure if I'm late to the table with this, but has anyone checked the traffic for the slymepit against the A+ forums? That's ironic, right? That's the goddamn definition of ironic.

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Anyone have a hypothesis about the inverse relationship that started trending in July?


That's about the same time A+ Forum banned the use of the term "thug."
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Southern » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:23 pm  •  [Post 20088]

Kareem wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:Ophelia's talent for idiotic overstatement is as sharp as ever:

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http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... frivolity/

So first Anita Sarkeesian is put in the same sentence as Rosa Parks and Harvey milk, now Rebecca Watson speaks for women the way Thurgood Marshall spoke for African Americans.

Thank God they're atheists, or we might literally witness Benson being equated to the second coming.


You know that PZ is itching to compare The Blue Cunt to the Virgin Mary, or maybe The Little Mermaid.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Cliché Guevara » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:24 pm  •  [Post 20089]

The BBC offers up disgusting apologetics for mugging culture!

How you move gives a lot away. Maybe too much, if the wrong person is watching. We think, for instance, that the way people walk can influence the likelihood of an attack by a stranger. But we also think that their walking style can be altered to reduce the chances of being targeted.

The point light walker research a great example of a research journey that goes from a statistical observation, through street-level investigations and the use of complex lab techniques, and then applies the hard won knowledge for good: showing how the vulnerable can take steps to reduce their appearance of vulnerability.


I'm literally sharting with rage as I type through the tears.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Really? » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:30 pm  •  [Post 20090]

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
jet_lagg wrote:Not sure if I'm late to the table with this, but has anyone checked the traffic for the slymepit against the A+ forums? That's ironic, right? That's the goddamn definition of ironic.

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Anyone have a hypothesis about the inverse relationship that started trending in July?


That's about the same time A+ Forum banned the use of the term "thug."


It is hilarious that the A+ forum is going away so quickly. But that's what happens when you ban all of your members...no one is left to post.

I think this is the endgame for FTB/A+; they want a world in which the last three people left in the movement can sit cross-legged in a circle singing gender-neutral songs about the way that they created a post-sexual future by preventing the commission of any sexual acts.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby free thoughtpolice » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:32 pm  •  [Post 20091]

A new post by PZ has a mock? poster saying "I tried pot once and now I'm gay!".
An interesting comment by Oggie.
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Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

5 November 2013 at 7:22 pm (UTC -6)

But I’ve smoked pot.

Damn. This’ll be a tough conversation with Wife.


I wonder if he has talked to Wife about his child molestation? If so telling her you have smoked pot and are therefore gay probably won't be that hard.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby DeepInsideYourMind » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:33 pm  •  [Post 20092]

Cliché Guevara wrote:The BBC offers up disgusting apologetics for mugging culture!

How you move gives a lot away. Maybe too much, if the wrong person is watching. We think, for instance, that the way people walk can influence the likelihood of an attack by a stranger. But we also think that their walking style can be altered to reduce the chances of being targeted.

The point light walker research a great example of a research journey that goes from a statistical observation, through street-level investigations and the use of complex lab techniques, and then applies the hard won knowledge for good: showing how the vulnerable can take steps to reduce their appearance of vulnerability.


I'm literally sharting with rage as I type through the tears.



Good to see research to back up what we all basically know ... you can tell a lot about someone from their body language ... not the body language "signals" that pseudo science books talk about ("crossed arms are defensive" blah waffle blah), but the body language of how you carry yourself, how you respond to stimuli around you ...


So, the A+ people who "keep getting raped" ... maybe telling men not to rape isn't going so well for you, luckily science has a possible answer ... change your perception, change how you walk, move, interact .... or STOP BEING A VICTIM


Fucking science!!!!! Screwing up pseudoscientific bollocks one A+er at a time
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby free thoughtpolice » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:39 pm  •  [Post 20093]

New lulz at Chez Ophie!http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2013/11/a-puerile-display-of-sniggering-frivolity/#comments
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:42 pm  •  [Post 20094]

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Fuck me, but Caine has some serious problems. I am starting to feel sorry for laughing at her, now that I read she is lacking the three fucking hundred fucking dollars she needs to buy fucking pencils.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/10/17/thunderdome-37/comment-page-2/#comment-713859
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby acathode » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:43 pm  •  [Post 20095]

Tribble wrote:Thing is, you lay with dogs, you get fleas. And he can pity pot all he wants, but it was the A+/FTB assholes that caused this problem. Not the people who pushed back. They were the ones categorically insisted that anyone who didn't support (or merely questioned) their belief systems were defective, fuckwit, misogynistic assholes leaving no room for anything but absolute capitulation or victimization.
I don't for a second doubt that there he got a shitstorm of irrational, hysterical crazy anti-FTB people commenting, that are an embarrassment and who are just as bad as SJWs.

The problem with youtube though, is that it's almost impossible to leave a well written comment, 500 chars forces anyone who want to respond into short, crappy messages where there are little room for nuances, details, or even linking to facts and evidence. As a result, people trying to discuss on youtube are a lot more likely to come across as exactly hysterical and irrational when they are expressing displeasure. It's a system that's fine and dandy for "Yay, cool video!" comments, less good for "You're wrong here and here and here, because <argument>, and here is my evidence", if you want to keep within the char limit "This is stupid! You're a retard" is pretty much the only thing you'll be able to sqeeze in there, at least if you don't want to spend 20+ mins trying to figure out how to say X, Y and Z with just 500 chars in a shitty youtube comment...

As a result, most people who still do comment on youtube tend to be those who are OK with writing shitty comments with little substance, and the few other who aren't are still, simply due to the format, mostly going to appear hostile, emotional and irrational when they try to express criticism.

Now, as to why the hell anyone cares wtf happen on twitter, I have no clue...
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby James Caruthers » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:56 pm  •  [Post 20096]

ROBOKiTTY wrote:Having watched/read NonStampCollector's account, I can sort of sympathize with the FTBullies a little, but only a little. The kind of horrible treatment NSC got from anti-FTBers is a reflection of humanity, and you don't really see it at the 'pit. At the end of the day, the FTBullies are still bullies, though there seem to be as many unreasonable haters against them as there are amongst their sycophants.

I didn't watch this newest video, but I'm following him on twitter and my general impression of NSC is he, like Aron, doesn't take the time to properly understand why people are pissed off, and doesn't realize that his mere association with FTB is going to cause some people to paint with a broad brush. Time will tell if he goes full SJW like Aron did.

When I talk about "FTB" on the pitt, I am not including NSC as one of them, even if he may identify as a FTBlogger and has a blog on there. He's not contributing to the propagation of SJW stupidity.

Really, it seems to me that NSC got all butthurt about the hate he received early on in the schism when emotions were running hot, and jumped into the "PZ is not that bad" camp as a reaction to the over-the-top hatred coming from, well, I assume they're thunderfoot fans or other youtubers.

Sorry NSC, PZ and his friends really are that bad. You've been carrying around this butthurt for several years, ever since the first anti-FTB videos were made and you caught some blowback from the stupid shit PZ and his buddies were doing. Either disassociate yourself from the SJWs, or accept rude emails as the price you pay for greater internet exposure (which is, he claims, why he joined FTB).

What is it the FTBloggers say? The standard you walk past? :lol:
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Brive1987 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:57 pm  •  [Post 20097]

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Why Rebecca Watson is a low intellect blight.

Note profiling <> body searching. It is simply a way to limit a potential target population given limited resources. FWIW Harris personally doubts airport security is worth much at all. His point is that if you do go down this road, and you are targeting a specific threat, then logic dictates you direct effort in the most plausible (dare I say "rational") direction.

If you can think of a better way to profile Moslems without using imperfect cultural / racial markers - then Harris would be all for it.

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Watson's shockingly irrational link is not to the primary source but to a Harris critic secondary source. Remind me again why she is a "writer"?


Harris original article:
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/in-d ... -profiling

Harris rebuttal of the Watson type trope:
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text ... #profiling

Watson's bit o' crap:
http://skepchick.org/2013/11/the-top-te ... honeygate/
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:00 pm  •  [Post 20098]

Really? wrote:It is hilarious that the A+ forum is going away so quickly. But that's what happens when you ban all of your members...no one is left to post.

I think this is the endgame for FTB/A+; they want a world in which the last three people left in the movement can sit cross-legged in a circle singing gender-neutral songs about the way that they created a post-sexual future by preventing the commission of any sexual acts.



By its nature, a BBS is for conversation. There was an instance, noted here, of the A+ mod banning a new user after their 3rd comment. They can't stifle speech like that and not end up as the Judaean Popular Front.

Blogs are more like the preacher ranting on Sunday with the congregation responding, "Amen, amen!" Also, people who feel very strongly, angrily strong, about an issue love to hear their viewpoint repeated over and over. So I think Thought Free Blogs can survive for some time on that demographic, though it surely can't expand its audience to normal, sane, adjusted people. Plus, the writing at FtB is such utter shit that no one but a zealot would stick around for long.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Brive1987 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:06 pm  •  [Post 20099]

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Why Rebecca Watson is a low intellect blight.

Note also how she connects
"Dawkins" --> "far right" --> "Muslim hatred" --> "persons of colour" --> "profile" --> "harassment" --> "shockingly irrational"
-->"Sam Harris

That's a conceptual gish gallop that Von Daniken would be proud of.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:10 pm  •  [Post 20100]

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Really? wrote:It is hilarious that the A+ forum is going away so quickly. But that's what happens when you ban all of your members...no one is left to post.

I think this is the endgame for FTB/A+; they want a world in which the last three people left in the movement can sit cross-legged in a circle singing gender-neutral songs about the way that they created a post-sexual future by preventing the commission of any sexual acts.



By its nature, a BBS is for conversation. There was an instance, noted here, of the A+ mod banning a new user after their 3rd comment. They can't stifle speech like that and not end up as the Judaean Popular Front.

Blogs are more like the preacher ranting on Sunday with the congregation responding, "Amen, amen!" Also, people who feel very strongly, angrily strong, about an issue love to hear their viewpoint repeated over and over. So I think Thought Free Blogs can survive for some time on that demographic, though it surely can't expand its audience to normal, sane, adjusted people. Plus, the writing at FtB is such utter shit that no one but a zealot would stick around for long.


I've stopped going to A+Theism. It was once great: no one was making any money off it, so you could visit as many times as you'd like, and the entertainment was amazing. At this point I am legally obliged to post this video:

[youtube]9C_11laqbvM[/youtube]
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby James Caruthers » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:12 pm  •  [Post 20101]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEcjn6VzLdU

"If you disagree with A+ and FTB, ignore it and it will go away." -NSC

I can believe that about the A+ forum, but how long have we been ignoring social justice warriors? They're not going anywhere without a vocal pushback, because silence is taken as an endorsement of their bullshit.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:13 pm  •  [Post 20102]

Brive1987 wrote:.
Why Rebecca Watson is a low intellect blight.

Note profiling <> body searching. It is simply a way to limit a potential target population given limited resources. FWIW Harris personally doubts airport security is worth much at all. His point is that if you do go down this road, and you are targeting a specific threat, then logic dictates you direct effort in the most plausible (dare I say "rational") direction.

If you can think of a better way to profile Moslems without using imperfect cultural / racial markers - then Harris would be all for it.



A dialog exchange from HOMELAND:

"That's eighty-three contacts. We don't have the time to check them all."
"Start with the dark-skinned ones."
"That's racial profiling."
"That's real profiling. Our target is a member of Hezbollah."


And from THE TOWN:

"What's the first thing we do when a bank gets robbed in Boston? Close the Charlestown Bridge."
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:13 pm  •  [Post 20103]

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Really? wrote:It is hilarious that the A+ forum is going away so quickly. But that's what happens when you ban all of your members...no one is left to post.

I think this is the endgame for FTB/A+; they want a world in which the last three people left in the movement can sit cross-legged in a circle singing gender-neutral songs about the way that they created a post-sexual future by preventing the commission of any sexual acts.



By its nature, a BBS is for conversation. There was an instance, noted here, of the A+ mod banning a new user after their 3rd comment. They can't stifle speech like that and not end up as the Judaean Popular Front.

Blogs are more like the preacher ranting on Sunday with the congregation responding, "Amen, amen!" Also, people who feel very strongly, angrily strong, about an issue love to hear their viewpoint repeated over and over. So I think Thought Free Blogs can survive for some time on that demographic, though it surely can't expand its audience to normal, sane, adjusted people. Plus, the writing at FtB is such utter shit that no one but a zealot would stick around for long.


I've stopped going to A+Theism. It was once great: no one was making any money off it, so you could visit as many times as you'd like, and the entertainment was amazing. At this point I am legally obliged to post this video:

[youtube]9C_11laqbvM[/youtube]


I think people have said that "Simpleflower" was a Poe. Looking back, I wonder if Justicar was Simpleflower?

Abbie?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby BarnOwl » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:26 pm  •  [Post 20104]

Quicker for me to draw something by hand, photograph it, and upload the photo:

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby DeepInsideYourMind » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:28 pm  •  [Post 20105]

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:A dialog exchange from HOMELAND:

"That's eighty-three contacts. We don't have the time to check them all."
"Start with the dark-skinned ones."
"That's racial profiling."
"That's real profiling. Our target is a member of Hezbollah."


And from THE TOWN:

"What's the first thing we do when a bank gets robbed in Boston? Close the Charlestown Bridge."


Not only does profiling work, but every single one of us, including everyone in A+ does it every single moment of every day ... it is basic human nature to assess people and situations based on prior information we have ... stereotyping people is not actually a bad thing, it allows us to very quickly evaluate situations and make judgements based on limited information ...

Sure that teenager in the torn jeans, leather jacket and gang colours might not actually be a criminal ... but we will probably avoid him on the street, just in case

That old woman, white hair, glasses, sweet smile might just be an innocent grandma, but boy will we be shocked and surprised if she started spouting racist expletives


Everyone here did it with the "who do you let into the bunker" test a few days ago ... and everyone on FTB and A+ constantly do it with all the people they tone police

Want to spot a member of the IRA? Chances are they have an Irish accent ... does it mean all Irish people are members of the IRA? Not at all, but it's a damn fine way to narrow your choices

Want to spot a muslim terrorist? There's an amazingly high chance firstly that they are a Muslim ... and it's a fair bet that most Muslims will be of an ethnic group where Islam is predominant ... does it mean all young Pakistani men are terrorists? Nope, but it's a damn fine way to narrow down your choices


And honestly, anyone who cannot see the blindingly obvious there, is just trying to be politically correct for the sake of it, under any psychological test condition, they would fail miserably to not make stereotypical judgments ... evolutionary speaking, it is far better to mistake the shadow for being a tiger, than it is to mistake the tiger as only being a shadow.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:39 pm  •  [Post 20106]

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:[I think people have said that "Simpleflower" was a Poe. Looking back, I wonder if Justicar was Simpleflower?


How cool would that be?

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby justinvacula » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:51 pm  •  [Post 20107]

ROBOKiTTY wrote:An innocent atheist outsider who got a taste of the Internet drama comments on things, unfortunately from the wrong side. Starts about four minutes into the video.

[youtube]eEcjn6VzLdU[/youtube]

(link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEcjn6VzLdU)


More 'atheists have not worked out whether women are equal or not' nonsense... (8:15 mark)
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Really? » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:51 pm  •  [Post 20108]

DeepInsideYourMind wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:A dialog exchange from HOMELAND:

"That's eighty-three contacts. We don't have the time to check them all."
"Start with the dark-skinned ones."
"That's racial profiling."
"That's real profiling. Our target is a member of Hezbollah."


And from THE TOWN:

"What's the first thing we do when a bank gets robbed in Boston? Close the Charlestown Bridge."


Not only does profiling work, but every single one of us, including everyone in A+ does it every single moment of every day ... it is basic human nature to assess people and situations based on prior information we have ... stereotyping people is not actually a bad thing, it allows us to very quickly evaluate situations and make judgements based on limited information ...

Sure that teenager in the torn jeans, leather jacket and gang colours might not actually be a criminal ... but we will probably avoid him on the street, just in case

That old woman, white hair, glasses, sweet smile might just be an innocent grandma, but boy will we be shocked and surprised if she started spouting racist expletives


Everyone here did it with the "who do you let into the bunker" test a few days ago ... and everyone on FTB and A+ constantly do it with all the people they tone police

Want to spot a member of the IRA? Chances are they have an Irish accent ... does it mean all Irish people are members of the IRA? Not at all, but it's a damn fine way to narrow your choices

Want to spot a muslim terrorist? There's an amazingly high chance firstly that they are a Muslim ... and it's a fair bet that most Muslims will be of an ethnic group where Islam is predominant ... does it mean all young Pakistani men are terrorists? Nope, but it's a damn fine way to narrow down your choices


And honestly, anyone who cannot see the blindingly obvious there, is just trying to be politically correct for the sake of it, under any psychological test condition, they would fail miserably to not make stereotypical judgments ... evolutionary speaking, it is far better to mistake the shadow for being a tiger, than it is to mistake the tiger as only being a shadow.


And I think we're overlooking the fact that the SJWs are engaging in profiling when it comes to men. They're predators. They want to stop women from having good jobs. They won't shut up and listen to you yell at them about how radical feminism is helping combat the fact that 95+% of alimony recipients are female.

Yes, they see a man and do quite a bit of profiling.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby justinvacula » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:56 pm  •  [Post 20109]

Video recordings and a high quality audio recording of my November 3 discussion with Pastor Dan Nichols are now available. About 200 people showed up and a good discussion was had. Enjoy.

http://justinvacula.com/2013/11/05/vide ... n-nichols/

Part 1
[youtube]jzRYN-R3B1s[/youtube]

Part 2
[youtube]FyKY7UieKSM[/youtube]
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ROBOKiTTY » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:05 pm  •  [Post 20110]

Right as I linked NSC's video, Peezus put up a post as well. And the commentariat are quick to accuse him of tone trolling and giving the other side too much credit.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby James Caruthers » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:12 pm  •  [Post 20111]

justinvacula wrote:
ROBOKiTTY wrote:An innocent atheist outsider who got a taste of the Internet drama comments on things, unfortunately from the wrong side. Starts about four minutes into the video.

[youtube]eEcjn6VzLdU[/youtube]

(link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEcjn6VzLdU)


More 'atheists have not worked out whether women are equal or not' nonsense... (8:15 mark)

Yep. When I heard that, a big-time bullshit alert went off.

Sounds like he's headed for AronRa and Dillahunty territory. In other words, just believe feminist propaganda, no need to verify what feminists say by comparing it with the legal changes they want to make to our systems of government. Oh no, feminism is only ever about "women are people too." :roll:

http://www.saveservices.org/falsely-acc ... innocence/
In Washington state, for example, juries receive the following instruction: “The burden is on the defendant to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the sexual intercourse was consensual.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence
Furthermore, in sexual offence cases such as rape, where the sexual act has already been proved beyond reasonable doubt, there are a limited number of circumstances where the defendant has an obligation to adduce evidence that the complainant consented to the sexual act, or that the defendant reasonably believed that the complainant was consenting. These circumstances include, for example, where the complainant was unconscious, unlawfully detained, or subjected to violence.[23]

In other words, if you had sex and they can prove you had sex, and you got accused of rape, get ready to prove to the court that you didn't rape, as opposed to the court having to prove that you did. And even this isn't yet at Crystal Clear Consent levels of SJWism.
Modern practices aimed at curing social ills may run against presumption of innocence. Some[which?] civil rights activists feel that pre-employment drug testing, while legal, violates this principle, as potential employees are presumed to be users of illegal drugs, and must prove themselves innocent through the test. Similarly, critics argue that some[which?] dispositions of laws against sexual harassment or racial discrimination show a presumption of guilt. These dispositions were meant to ease the burden of proof on the victim, since in practice harassment or discrimination practices are hard to prove.

Civil rights activists note that the well-meaning practices so adopted may have a deleterious effect on justice being served. An example is the use of a screen in sexual assault cases, which is set up to prevent the complainant from being distressed at the sight of the accused. Where a victim was in fact victimized by the accused, this may be argued to serve the principles of therapeutic justice.[24]

Feminism: the radical notion that women are people too... And NOTHING ELSE!!!
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Ape+lust » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:19 pm  •  [Post 20112]

BarnOwl wrote:Quicker for me to draw something by hand, photograph it, and upload the photo:

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Yeah, yeah, Luddites-R-us.


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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby BarnOwl » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:22 pm  •  [Post 20113]

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:[ img ]

Fuck me, but Caine has some serious problems. I am starting to feel sorry for laughing at her, now that I read she is lacking the three fucking hundred fucking dollars she needs to buy fucking pencils.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/10/17/thunderdome-37/comment-page-2/#comment-713859


It gets even better:

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3 November 2013 at 1:47 pm (UTC -6) Link to this comment
Ogvorbis & Crip Dyke, yeah, I’m okay and not. I’ll live. I have a piece I need to do, it’s burning me alive, can’t sleep, can’t work on anything else, it’s fucking consuming me. Don’t have all the tools I need to do it. Want to scream for about an hour or three.


OH NOES the tortured artiste!11!! Maybe her rats chewed up all her art supplies.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby James Caruthers » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:27 pm  •  [Post 20114]

I would like to know where Caine shops that pencils are 300 dollars.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:37 pm  •  [Post 20115]

James Caruthers wrote:I would like to know where Caine shops that pencils are 300 dollars.

Well, pencils can cost a bit...http://www.dickblick.com/items/22084-1076/ . Having seen her picture of the rat skull with little rotty bits still attached, I cannot wait to see her next piece. Perhaps brightly colored dried rat intestinal tract.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Ape+lust » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:39 pm  •  [Post 20116]

James Caruthers wrote:I would like to know where Caine shops that pencils are 300 dollars.


Maybe she wants to recreate the Eiffel Tower in pencils.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:44 pm  •  [Post 20117]

Skepticon starts in 10 days.

The schedule is filling in: http://skepticon.org/schedule/

I got a laugh from these 2:
Friday PM: Handling Public Criticism - Stephanie Zvan
Sunday AM: Hemant Mehta: Don't Post First and Ask Questions Later


And who would want to miss this?
Saturday PM: Richard Carrier: Is Philosophy Stupid?


Looks like they've gotten donations from 4 organizations to help fill the crater in their budget.

(The story is that Skepticon took a principled stance in June 2013 and decided not to accept CFI's sponsorship: http://skepticon.org/skepticon-says-goodbye-to-a-sponsor/ - I'd read that CFI used to give $10K for Skepticon, but poking around it looks like I might have read that here: http://elevatorgate.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/more-like-skeptic-conned-am-i-right/. It also seems possible that CFI decided to withdraw its support but let Skepticon take the "principled stance" approach.)

Anyway, within the past 2 days, 4 new blog post titles went up at the Skepticon website:

Meet the Sponsor: Kansas City Atheist Coalition (KCAC)
Meet the Sponsor: Atheist Alliance International (AAI)
Meet the Sponsor: Foundation Beyond Belief (FBB)
Meet the Sponsor: American Atheists

Each entry introduces "One of our most amazing sponsors this year" with a blurb from the organization's website, and all but the KCAC one (which goes to "Page not found") continues on after the break to a short post that completes the organization's own blurb and urges Skepticoners go visit the organization's facebook or twitter & "give them some Skepticon love!" (After getting crystal clear and enthusiastic consent, I presume).

I must say, I'm surprised to see Foundation Beyond Belief on that list - not because the people running it are immune to sympathies to one "side" or another, but because as a 501(c)(3) it's supposed to put its money where its "organizational purposes" are. I can't find its articles of incorporation online, but the "Join" (donate) button on FBB's website says "A community of compassionate humanists supporting outstanding charities worldwide" and its mission statement is "To demonstrate humanism at its best by supporting efforts to improve this world and this life, and to challenge humanists to embody the highest principles of humanism, including mutual care and responsibility."

So...I sent off an email just now to FBB, to inquire:
I joined FBB in January 2013 as a "Foundation 50" sustaining member/donor. I've been delighted with FBB's work. However, I recently read on the Skepticon website ( http://skepticon.org/ ) that FBB is one of Skepticon's sponsors this year. It looks like that sponsorship happened recently. The Skepticon speaker topics ( http://skepticon.org/schedule/ ) don't suggest a high degree of overlap with FBB's mission statement to me.

As a donor to FBB, I have three questions:
(1) Does sponsorship of this conference fit with FBB's organizational purposes as a 501(c)(3) public charity?
(2) Was there consideration of the possibility of appearance of conflict of interest given that an FBB board member (president?), Hemant Mehta, is a scheduled speaker at Skepticon? (Though possibly without honorarium)
(3) What amount did FBB donate to Skepticon?

Thank you -
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby BarnOwl » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:47 pm  •  [Post 20118]

James Caruthers wrote:I would like to know where Caine shops that pencils are 300 dollars.


A set of 120 Prismacolor colored pencils costs less than half that.

But yeah, watch them send her the money ... first world SJW problems, you know.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Sunder » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:55 pm  •  [Post 20119]

BarnOwl wrote:A set of 120 Prismacolor colored pencils costs less than half that.
Or spend the $300 on a Wacom and pirate Photoshop like normal people...
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Aneris » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:04 pm  •  [Post 20120]

Since it's somewhat in the day... an old video by Thunderfoot on Scientology. It's of course quite fun to how certain phrases and expressions are repeated in a different context today (like at 5:50)

[youtube]v6eNyBrQUKs[/youtube]
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:06 pm  •  [Post 20121]

Even if Caine had the $300 ($300?!!), where would she be able to get pencils fast enough to let out the piece that's "burning [her] alive" and that's making her post stuff like "Aaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuugh. Pain. Fuck"? Surely there's not a store in her town that carries high-end art supplies.

Hmmm...isn't it interesting how Caine's pencil angst appeared when Thunderdome had slowed way down and served to bring out concern and posts from other Pharyngulites, picking up the pace for a little while and showing Caine some love.

Over the prior 36 hours, there had been all of 4 posts in Thunderdome; after Caine's 2 back-to-back posts about how painful it was not to have pencils, 4 people dropped 6 concerned & supportive posts in the subsequent hour (with *hugs* etc), then it was another 8 hours until the next post in the Thunderdome.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Suet Cardigan » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:13 pm  •  [Post 20122]

The more I learn about Caine, the more I imagine the inside of her house looks like the one in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:15 pm  •  [Post 20123]

Sunder wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:A set of 120 Prismacolor colored pencils costs less than half that.
Or spend the $300 on a Wacom and pirate Photoshop like normal people...

yo, check your "normal people" privilege. Some of us prefer weapons of a more civilized age...
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Whiskey Tango » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:17 pm  •  [Post 20124]

Bhurzum wrote:
yomomma wrote:OMG. Is this written by anybody on here? It's some pretty clever parody.

http://rebeccawatsonfanclub.wordpress.c ... y/retards/

I am literally laughing out loud. So, loud, I can't even say that it's a LOL, but a LAUGH OUT LOUD.

"You don’t know what it’s like to be Rebecca Watson. You don’t know what it’s like to see a convention floor as a terrifying expanse of blue ocean, with every dick in the room pointed at you, circling like sharks and waiting for any sign of weakness, any subtle cue to unleash phallic violence on the indigo-haired vixen of their wet dreams. She’s wearing heels, so she can’t run! Rape time, motherfucker. When she gets into an elevator or steps outside for a smoke after sundown, it’s on."

That, right there, is some awesome sauce.



Yup, I'm sifting through it right now and can confirm the awesomeness of the content. This little nugget almost floored me!

"An inebriated Addy stuck his tongue in Watson’s left ear, the source said, and Watson squealed delightedly.

“PZ looked crestfallen, but Mark and Becky were SO adorbz!” the source told Rebecca Watson Fan Club. “Mark whispered something about late night coffee at the hotel and as Rebecca doubled over in peals of laughter, Mark winked at PZ.”

Myers responded with a look our source described as “a cross between arousal and impotent rage.”


Shit's been updated, motherfuckers.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:18 pm  •  [Post 20125]

ROBOKiTTY wrote:Right as I linked NSC's video, Peezus put up a post as well. And the commentariat are quick to accuse him of tone trolling and giving the other side too much credit.
"accuse him of tone trolling" - him meaning NSC? (I've only briefly scanned that thread)


The jaundiced yellow background highlighted this, in my quick scan (he's addressing John Morales, who had used the almost-forbidden word in question):
12.
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5 November 2013 at 10:01 pm (UTC -6) Link to this comment

Did you know the word “sniggers” sends comments to the spam trap? You can guess why.

Oh, good lord. "Sniggers", wink wink, so close to such a naughty (& forbidden) word.

I sure hope the spam filter will catch all of the forbidden words among this group, too. (Some of which I recognized as having been used here in the past, specifically for the "concealed profanity" - lol.)

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go dry the saltwater out my wristwatch.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby katamari Damassi » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:33 pm  •  [Post 20126]

James Caruthers wrote:
justinvacula wrote:
ROBOKiTTY wrote:An innocent atheist outsider who got a taste of the Internet drama comments on things, unfortunately from the wrong side. Starts about four minutes into the video.

[youtube]eEcjn6VzLdU[/youtube]

(link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEcjn6VzLdU)


More 'atheists have not worked out whether women are equal or not' nonsense... (8:15 mark)

Yep. When I heard that, a big-time bullshit alert went off.

Sounds like he's headed for AronRa and Dillahunty territory. In other words, just believe feminist propaganda, no need to verify what feminists say by comparing it with the legal changes they want to make to our systems of government. Oh no, feminism is only ever about "women are people too." :roll:

http://www.saveservices.org/falsely-acc ... innocence/
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To be fair he says "It's embarrassing on twitter when Christians that you follow ask you what is this about atheists not having worked out whether women are equal or not?"
I read his video as a lame attempt to declare a pox on all our houses and stay above the drama. The truth is that he blindly joined up with FfTB without knowing what they were about, and not able to handle the drama.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:33 pm  •  [Post 20127]

Aneris wrote:Since it's somewhat in the day... an old video by Thunderfoot on Scientology. It's of course quite fun to how certain phrases and expressions are repeated in a different context today (like at 5:50)

[.youtube]v6eNyBrQUKs[/youtube]

Thanks - enjoyed that. I'm always interested when people point out similarities between Scientology & FC(n) (like treating some people like SPs). (And, truth be told, I don't have time to watch the longer videos, no matter how good they may be.)
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:37 pm  •  [Post 20128]

That US-news-knowledge quiz posted a few days ago (a week?) is about to become out of date, and for a very good reason:

The Illinois House today passed legislation allowing same sex marriage!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/illinois-house-votes-gay-marriages-20795167

(Still has to go to Senate for technical reasons, then to governor to sign, but it's expected to get through those steps.)
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Guest » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:44 pm  •  [Post 20129]

anyone notice sara mayhew's account is suspended and know whats up with that?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:06 pm  •  [Post 20130]

Guest wrote:anyone notice sara mayhew's account is suspended and know whats up with that?


Not a lot known, brive noticed it >12 hrs ago, start here: http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=140063#p140063
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Guest » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:09 pm  •  [Post 20131]

ah my bad, forgot where id left off and skipped that page :P

thanks for the pointer
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ROBOKiTTY » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:17 pm  •  [Post 20132]

Skep tickle wrote:
ROBOKiTTY wrote:Right as I linked NSC's video, Peezus put up a post as well. And the commentariat are quick to accuse him of tone trolling and giving the other side too much credit.
"accuse him of tone trolling" - him meaning NSC? (I've only briefly scanned that thread)



Indeed.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby James Caruthers » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:40 pm  •  [Post 20133]

Skep tickle wrote:Even if Caine had the $300 ($300?!!), where would she be able to get pencils fast enough to let out the piece that's "burning [her] alive" and that's making her post stuff like "Aaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuugh. Pain. Fuck"? Surely there's not a store in her town that carries high-end art supplies.

Hmmm...isn't it interesting how Caine's pencil angst appeared when Thunderdome had slowed way down and served to bring out concern and posts from other Pharyngulites, picking up the pace for a little while and showing Caine some love.

Over the prior 36 hours, there had been all of 4 posts in Thunderdome; after Caine's 2 back-to-back posts about how painful it was not to have pencils, 4 people dropped 6 concerned & supportive posts in the subsequent hour (with *hugs* etc), then it was another 8 hours until the next post in the Thunderdome.

Allow me to summarize the Thunderdome in an imaginary dialogue:

Poster 1: "Poor me!"
Poster 2: "Oh, so sorry to hear that dear! By the way, poor ME as well!"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Poster 3: "Am I late to the party? Here's an e-hug for the two of you! By the by, poor ME also, because first world problems!"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Peezus: "Hi guys, PZ poking his head in. Sorry to hear about your problems. You know *insert first world problem* is a result of our society's negative view of *minority group or women* and we need to rally for social justice even more! You guys are awesome!"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Poster 1: "Is your arm getting tired, Caine?"
Caine: "Yes, I've been drawing with my new $400 titanium-diamond pencil for the last hour. I just don't think I have the strength to keep going!"
Poster 1: "Oh, you poor dear, let me help."
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Ogvorapist: "Hi everyone, remember when I raped those girls? I feel like a horrible person, oh boo hoo, oh boo hoo. Can I get in on this pity party?"
Poster 2: "No problem oggie! Let me just get a hand free, here."
*fap fap*
Rape Victim: "Um, excuse me everyone. I'm an actual victim of rape and I find it really disgusting that a rapist can post a tale of raping little girls and you all approve of it. I thought this was a safe space and now you've triggered me."
....
...!!!!
Poster 1: "You horrible person, don't you understand poor Oggie is an abused rape victim like you?!?"
Poster 2: "How dare you suggest Oggie might rape! Just because he told us he raped someone?!? Don't be a sister punisher!"
Poster 3: "I would be happy to leave you alone with my little girls for hours, Oggie!"
*rape victim leaves in disgust*
...
...
Caine: "Now that that is settled, did I tell you all that I killed another of my rats by accident? My steel-tipped, gold-plated pencil went through his eye and into his brain. I was pretending he was Richard Sanderson again."
Poster 1: "Oh, that's horrible Caine!"
Poster 2: "I feel so bad for you!"
Poster 3: "How long do rats live, anyway? 40 years? It must be a huge loss to lose another one so soon!"
Ogvorapist: "What do you plan on doing with the skull, Caine? Can I have it?"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*

Ladies and gentlemen, The Thunderdome.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ROBOKiTTY » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:48 pm  •  [Post 20134]

You forgot the part where Peezus bans the rape victim.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ROBOKiTTY » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:50 pm  •  [Post 20135]

ROBOKiTTY wrote:You forgot the part where Peezus bans the rape victim.


And Nerd of Redhead FLOOSHing them per Hitchens quote.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:51 pm  •  [Post 20136]

James Caruthers wrote:Allow me to summarize the Thunderdome in an imaginary dialogue: ...

Rape Victim: "Um, excuse me everyone. I'm an actual victim of rape and I find it really disgusting that a rapist can post a tale of raping little girls and you all approve of it. I thought this was a safe space and now you've triggered me."
....
...!!!!
Poster 1: "You horrible person, don't you understand poor Oggie is an abused rape victim like you?!?"
Poster 2: "How dare you suggest Oggie might rape! Just because he told us he raped someone?!? Don't be a sister punisher!"
Poster 3: "I would be happy to leave you alone with my little girls for hours, Oggie!"

Rape Victim: I can't believe you all - this is crazy!
Caine: Message sent.
PZ pops in: You miserable sniveling ableist MRA misogynist anti-feminist, making it all about yourself. You're GONE.
*rape victim is banned*


Caine: "Now that that is settled, did I tell you all that I killed another of my rats by accident? My steel-tipped, gold-plated pencil went through his eye and into his brain. I was pretending he was Richard Sanderson again." ...

Ladies and gentlemen, The Thunderdome.

FTFY
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:52 pm  •  [Post 20137]

ROBOKiTTY wrote:You forgot the part where Peezus bans the rape victim.

Ninjaed yet again!
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Aneris » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:58 pm  •  [Post 20138]

Skep tickle wrote:
Aneris wrote:Since it's somewhat in the day... an old video by Thunderfoot on Scientology. It's of course quite fun to how certain phrases and expressions are repeated in a different context today (like at 5:50)

[.youtube]v6eNyBrQUKs[/youtube]

Thanks - enjoyed that. I'm always interested when people point out similarities between Scientology & FC(n) (like treating some people like SPs). (And, truth be told, I don't have time to watch the longer videos, no matter how good they may be.)


Check your afk-job privilege!
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Guestus Aurelius » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:22 pm  •  [Post 20139]

James Caruthers wrote:Allow me to summarize the Thunderdome in an imaginary dialogue:

Poster 1: "Poor me!"
Poster 2: "Oh, so sorry to hear that dear! By the way, poor ME as well!"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Poster 3: "Am I late to the party? Here's an e-hug for the two of you! By the by, poor ME also, because first world problems!"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Peezus: "Hi guys, PZ poking his head in. Sorry to hear about your problems. You know *insert first world problem* is a result of our society's negative view of *minority group or women* and we need to rally for social justice even more! You guys are awesome!"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Poster 1: "Is your arm getting tired, Caine?"
Caine: "Yes, I've been drawing with my new $400 titanium-diamond pencil for the last hour. I just don't think I have the strength to keep going!"
Poster 1: "Oh, you poor dear, let me help."
*fap fap*
*fap fap*
Ogvorapist: "Hi everyone, remember when I raped those girls? I feel like a horrible person, oh boo hoo, oh boo hoo. Can I get in on this pity party?"
Poster 2: "No problem oggie! Let me just get a hand free, here."
*fap fap*
Rape Victim: "Um, excuse me everyone. I'm an actual victim of rape and I find it really disgusting that a rapist can post a tale of raping little girls and you all approve of it. I thought this was a safe space and now you've triggered me."
....
...!!!!
Poster 1: "You horrible person, don't you understand poor Oggie is an abused rape victim like you?!?"
Poster 2: "How dare you suggest Oggie might rape! Just because he told us he raped someone?!? Don't be a sister punisher!"
Poster 3: "I would be happy to leave you alone with my little girls for hours, Oggie!"
*rape victim leaves in disgust*
...
...



Please don't forget the rats, please don't forget the rats, please don't forget the rats...

James Caruthers wrote:
Caine: "Now that that is settled, did I tell you all that I killed another of my rats by accident? My steel-tipped, gold-plated pencil went through his eye and into his brain. I was pretending he was Richard Sanderson again."
Poster 1: "Oh, that's horrible Caine!"
Poster 2: "I feel so bad for you!"
Poster 3: "How long do rats live, anyway? 40 years? It must be a huge loss to lose another one so soon!"
Ogvorapist: "What do you plan on doing with the skull, Caine? Can I have it?"
*fap fap*
*fap fap*

Ladies and gentlemen, The Thunderdome.


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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Dick Strawkins » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:00 am  •  [Post 20140]

Peezus has a post up now where he complains about the biology and internal politics of 'The Walking Dead' (how do they survive this long - why don't the survivors turn into zombies from exposure to the gore/zombie body fluids etc.
Nothing too controversial.

But for some strange reason he decides to end it with the following comment about pharyngula:

When will the survivors learn that they’re being guided by a dangerous idiot?


Yes, Peezus, when indeed.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby bovarchist » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:25 am  •  [Post 20141]

DeepInsideYourMind wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:A dialog exchange from HOMELAND:

"That's eighty-three contacts. We don't have the time to check them all."
"Start with the dark-skinned ones."
"That's racial profiling."
"That's real profiling. Our target is a member of Hezbollah."


And from THE TOWN:

"What's the first thing we do when a bank gets robbed in Boston? Close the Charlestown Bridge."


Not only does profiling work, but every single one of us, including everyone in A+ does it every single moment of every day ... it is basic human nature to assess people and situations based on prior information we have ... stereotyping people is not actually a bad thing, it allows us to very quickly evaluate situations and make judgements based on limited information ...

Sure that teenager in the torn jeans, leather jacket and gang colours might not actually be a criminal ... but we will probably avoid him on the street, just in case

That old woman, white hair, glasses, sweet smile might just be an innocent grandma, but boy will we be shocked and surprised if she started spouting racist expletives


Everyone here did it with the "who do you let into the bunker" test a few days ago ... and everyone on FTB and A+ constantly do it with all the people they tone police

Want to spot a member of the IRA? Chances are they have an Irish accent ... does it mean all Irish people are members of the IRA? Not at all, but it's a damn fine way to narrow your choices

Want to spot a muslim terrorist? There's an amazingly high chance firstly that they are a Muslim ... and it's a fair bet that most Muslims will be of an ethnic group where Islam is predominant ... does it mean all young Pakistani men are terrorists? Nope, but it's a damn fine way to narrow down your choices


And honestly, anyone who cannot see the blindingly obvious there, is just trying to be politically correct for the sake of it, under any psychological test condition, they would fail miserably to not make stereotypical judgments ... evolutionary speaking, it is far better to mistake the shadow for being a tiger, than it is to mistake the tiger as only being a shadow.


And if you're looking for a rapist, he's probably a man carrying a bottle of wine.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby bovarchist » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:32 am  •  [Post 20142]

James Caruthers wrote:I would like to know where Caine shops that pencils are 300 dollars.


Do you have any idea how many pencils it takes to fill all those John Doe notebooks?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:46 am  •  [Post 20143]

Are we still ripping on Foshaug?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:49 am  •  [Post 20144]

Gumby wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:Ophelia's talent for idiotic overstatement is as sharp as ever:

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http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... frivolity/


She has to say droolingly moronic shit like that, because she and her FtB pals have to keep up the pretense that they speak for all of atheism.

Yeah, and it's getting harder and harder to keep up that pretense when her blogposts are lucky to get 10 comments.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby DeepInsideYourMind » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:49 am  •  [Post 20145]

bovarchist wrote:And if you're looking for a rapist, he's probably a man carrying a bottle of wine.


LOL :)

Though seriously ... if the police *didn't* use profiling to catch rapists ... I strongly suspect they would find their job 10x harder when they start with the presumption that it could literally be anybody, and investigated each person in the populace .... instead of focusing in on white males, aged between 18 and 24, with dark hair and a scar on their left cheek .... of course, not *all* white men aged 18 to 24 with scars on their left cheeks are rapists ... but it certainly helps to start there if that's the information you had about the person you are looking for....

Merely typing this shit makes me facepalm myself .... seriously they cannot be this dumb!!!
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