Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

#6566

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Only a complete idiot would not recognize Ward Churchill as a charlatan, a pretendian, and an academic fraud.

I was just kidding about fucking your mother. The truth is your mom isn't worth fucking. Sorry to be the one to let you know.

#6567

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Walter Ego wrote:Generic ad hom. Just what I expected from "the Pit." Go fuck yourself while I fuck your mother.
Wouldn't this be an ad mom-inem attack?

What say we agree to ignore each other from now on, m'kay?

He's 'trolling' the pit. Said so the other day.

He thinks it makes him some sort of badass, or something.

:roll:

#6568

Walter, from what I've gathered, seems to be a really nice guy. He probably hates some of the Pitters, but who doesn't? Anyway, his trolling is way better than oolon's. Make of that what you will.

#6569

mikelf wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:Yet how many American cities have American Indian genocide memorials, or slavery memorials?
There are all sorts of Native American heritage memorials, exhibits and museums in Oklahoma

Heck, this is the first thing you see when you enter the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum:

http://www.8thingstodo.com/wp-content/u ... museum.jpg

Surfs Up, dudes

http://dvp14a235i3p5.cloudfront.net/wp- ... urfsUp.jpg

#6570

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Walter, from what I've gathered, seems to be a really nice guy. He probably hates some of the Pitters, but who doesn't? Anyway, his trolling is way better than oolon's. Make of that what you will.

I was nice to him at first. Gave him the benefit of the doubt. But, he doesn't have time for the little people. Too self-important, or something. So, no, I have no sympathy for self-important assholes who think their shit doesn't stink.

#6571

another lurker wrote:Speaking of tv, apparently this is a good show:

Orphan Black

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2234222/
A streetwise hustler witnesses the suicide of a girl who looks just like her and falls headlong into a deadly mystery.

Haven't seen it yet, but I'll put it on my list. Looks interesting

Yes. A great sci-fi-ish mystery show that actually gives answers. The main actress is amazing.

#6572

Lsuoma wrote:
debaser71 wrote:hmmm supposedly the 9/11 Memorial and Museum in NYC has whole sections dedicated to various genocides. But the only information I can find on this comes from right wing ranters about how anti-white and anti-christian it is.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422800/posts
Here in WA State we have Gospodor's Monument Park.

A new exposÃ© of Mother Teresa shows that sheâ€”and the Vaticanâ€”were even worse than we thought

#6573

free thoughtpolice wrote:
sacha wrote:If I was living in a dirt hut without enough food, or clean water, I would not give a toss as to why someone was helping to build me a house.
That is until you discover their aid manual, "To Serve Sacha" is in fact... A COOKBOOK!!! :o

I'm beyond the "best before" date

#6574

sacha wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
sacha wrote:If I was living in a dirt hut without enough food, or clean water, I would not give a toss as to why someone was helping to build me a house.
That is until you discover their aid manual, "To Serve Sacha" is in fact... A COOKBOOK!!! :o
I'm beyond the "best before" date

Yeah, right. These days we call them MILFs...

#6575

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
sacha wrote:
I'm beyond the "best before" date
Yeah, right. These days we call them MILFs...

Personally, I pay more attention to the "best after" date:

http://s.plurielles.fr/mmdia/i/00/7/nat ... 41.jpg?v=1

#6576

Hey, Australia - you is our BITCHEZ!!!

#6577

http://assets.amuniversal.com/17e01fc0a ... 1dd8b71c47
And guess who is the only one who actually did something?

#6578

GangstaDan wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:
GangstaDan wrote:So, did anyone see the articles about FFRF protesting a holocaust memorial with a star of david on it? That's pretty fucking retarded, given that if anything the star of david is an ethnic symbol, and moreover, jews were forced to wear it during their extermination to distinguish them on ethnic grounds. The jewish star in the context of the holocaust has nothing to do with the jewish religion and everything to do with the jewish people who were murdered by the Nazis
Interesting point. That aside though, I have a dislike of these monuments any way. Excuse me while I go all SJW for a minute, but it seems like so many large American cities have one of these(Boston's is terrific BTW). It's a monument about a European event that effected not that many Americans. Baltimore even has a Katyn Forrest massacre memorial, probably because the polish-americans said "You've got a holocaust memorial why can't we have one of our own?" Yet how many American cities have American Indian genocide memorials, or slavery memorials?
What happened to the American Indians was a tragedy, but you will not find many people beyond the now-discredited Ward Churchill (the idiot who called the victims on september 11th little eichmanns) who would classify the indian depopulation to be genocidal. Huge percentages (90% or more) of the indian population were dead before they ever made direct contact with europeans.

Maybe I'm being a bit loose with my definition of genocide in that many tribes were wiped out by the unintentional transmission of deadly disease, but there were tribes that were actually wiped out, either by disease, war or a combination of the two, and you can't argue that as a whole; Native americans were targeted for genocide or forced assimilation.

#6579

katamari Damassi wrote: Maybe I'm being a bit loose with my definition of genocide in that many tribes were wiped out by the unintentional transmission of deadly disease, but there were tribes that were actually wiped out, either by disease, war or a combination of the two, and you can't argue that as a whole; Native americans were targeted for genocide or forced assimilation.

The above mentioned Ward Churchill, whatever his other failings, has made some insightful remarks and comments on the subject of genocide re its definition and how genocide is carried out in the real world. He's made me think seriously about the subject.

#6580

Lsuoma wrote:Potential incoming Eucliwoo warning. Just getting a feeling in my water...

Give it a good shake before zipping.

#6581

another lurker wrote: He's 'trolling' the pit. Said so the other day.

He thinks it makes him some sort of badass, or something.

Nah, just amusing myself on a quiet Sunday afternoon.

#6582

30 Second Musical Interlude.

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Continue.

#6583

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Wait: the rights of men = anti-feminist? I've completely lost the plot.

Me too Phil. I have encountered this in real life. I mention MRA and the assumption is anti-feminist. I explain and some do not buy it.

DownThunder wrote:Ive been curious about the phrase "anti-feminist" and its first appearances. Perhaps Andrew, who is most likely old, can help out.

Its a very all-or-nothing, us-vs-them idea. At most the posters put up by MRAs are targeting a specific claim that is made by feminists.

At least terms like "anti-vaxxer" makes sense in that vaccinations are a single topic and set of claims, but "anti-feminist" is starting to sound a lot like encouraging yoga classes is "anti-christian"....in short I get the impression that anti-feminists are a concept more likely to be an invention of feminists themselves.

It is an interesting frame though. Especially if it would be the first time they even heard of Men's Rights before this.

I had a tenured prof from a local university drop over for drinks a couple of weeks ago, that had never heard of Mens Rights before I mentioned the subject.

Mind though he is in a STEM field and knows zip about the Humanities. I was surprised though, because that uni has a good humanities rep, but it turns out he does not pay much if any attention to that lot (including feminists) at all.

Anyway, he had a mutual acquaintance with him who has a MA in Geology, and we spent more time talking about the local ecology, geography, and environment in regards to the mining and lumbering industries than Men's Rights.

#6584

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
sacha wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
That is until you discover their aid manual, "To Serve Sacha" is in fact... A COOKBOOK!!! :o
I'm beyond the "best before" date
Yeah, right. These days we call them MILFs...

No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.

#6585

sacha wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
sacha wrote:If I was living in a dirt hut without enough food, or clean water, I would not give a toss as to why someone was helping to build me a house.
That is until you discover their aid manual, "To Serve Sacha" is in fact... A COOKBOOK!!! :o
I'm beyond the "best before" date

I'm sure you're still delicious.

#6586

bovarchist wrote: No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.

I thought it was all in the way you looked at it. I thought it was possible to be both, depending on who is doing the pursuing and who is being pursued. Both are predicated upon an age difference. And (possibly) whether or not one has kids, but I don't think the "M" in MILF is really used that specifically.

#6587

TV tip: American Horror Story: Asylum. Unapologetic camp-sploitation, and so many mythologies crammed into one season that it makes shows like True Blood seem tastefully restrained.

Now watcing The Bridge/Bron/Broen, for those who haven't overdosed on Scandinavian crime drama yet...

Orphan Black looks very interesting.

#6588

Lsuoma wrote:Hey, Australia - you is our BITCHEZ!!!

I'm amused by it. Schadenfreude. The sooner Clarke fucks off the better.
Previous captains were at least respected, if not loved by all, but even his mum thinks he's a total cunt.

#6589

Lsuoma wrote:Hey, Australia - you is our BITCHEZ!!!

Yeah, I know. When do we get our flag and razoo?

#6590

windy wrote:TV tip: American Horror Story: Asylum. Unapologetic camp-sploitation, and so many mythologies crammed into one season that it makes shows like True Blood seem tastefully restrained.

Now watcing The Bridge/Bron/Broen, for those who haven't overdosed on Scandinavian crime drama yet...

Orphan Black looks very interesting.

The Bridge was great. Saga was certainly a very original main character for a mainstream drama.

#6591

I just did a check to see when the promised second series of The Bridge was due and of course discovered that the inevitable American remake is planned. Why do they keep doing that? Can't anyone over there read subtitles? I suppose I shouldn't get too snotty about it as it seems a joint French/UK version is also on the way. I thought we were a bit more relaxed about foreign drama, the original was already shown here.

#6592

Badger3k wrote:
bovarchist wrote: No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.
I thought it was all in the way you looked at it. I thought it was possible to be both, depending on who is doing the pursuing and who is being pursued. Both are predicated upon an age difference. And (possibly) whether or not one has kids, but I don't think the "M" in MILF is really used that specifically.

does dog mum count?

#6593

Badger3k wrote:
bovarchist wrote: No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.
I thought it was all in the way you looked at it. I thought it was possible to be both, depending on who is doing the pursuing and who is being pursued. Both are predicated upon an age difference. And (possibly) whether or not one has kids, but I don't think the "M" in MILF is really used that specifically.

does dog mum count?

#6594

If you like comedies you might want to check out Reno 911 and Drawn Together:

Reno 911

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370194/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Drawn Together

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386180/?ref_=sr_1

Two of my favourite comedy shows of all time. Drawn Together is just twisted - they take beloved cartoon characters and superheroes and turn them into absolutely despicable beings. The show is also HIGHLY politically incorrect - the SJW's would have a coronary watching it.

Reno 911 pokes fun at cops and rednecks, and is mostly ad-libbed.

#6595

sacha wrote:
Badger3k wrote:
bovarchist wrote: No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.
I thought it was all in the way you looked at it. I thought it was possible to be both, depending on who is doing the pursuing and who is being pursued. Both are predicated upon an age difference. And (possibly) whether or not one has kids, but I don't think the "M" in MILF is really used that specifically.
does dog mum count?

apparently Cougars go after young men, so I guess I'm not a Cougar: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... lder-women

#6596

Walter Ego wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote: Maybe I'm being a bit loose with my definition of genocide in that many tribes were wiped out by the unintentional transmission of deadly disease, but there were tribes that were actually wiped out, either by disease, war or a combination of the two, and you can't argue that as a whole; Native americans were targeted for genocide or forced assimilation.
The above mentioned Ward Churchill, whatever his other failings, has made some insightful remarks and comments on the subject of genocide re its definition and how genocide is carried out in the real world. He's made me think seriously about the subject.

Shit I did it again! "a and you can't argue that as a whole; Native americans were targeted for genocide or forced assimilation" is supposed to read: "and you can't argue that as a whole; Native americans weren't targeted for genocide or forced assimilation".
Hard to believe that not only is English my first language but that I actually taught it once. In my defense I often find myself posting in a hurry or on my phone.

#6597

Just saw the film Now You See Me. Avoid it unless you enjoy seething for nearly 2 hours. It's about stage magicians heisting banks. I don't know if they consulted any actual magicians for the movie as all the tricks performed are implausible and done with movie effects-obvious CGI and green screen-but they sure as hell didn't consult James Randi. The movie depicts stage hypnotism as magic mind control. The scale of the "illusions" and resources required to pull them off break any suspension of disbelief you were willing to lend to the film. I really dislike movies that depict the FBI as ridiculous keystone cops. The twist to the ending is obvious if you employ the old: "Who is the least likely guy to be in on this?" The only thing that could've potentially saved this movie is if Mark Ruffalo did a nude scene. Sadly he did not, which is unusual for him.

#6598

another lurker wrote:If you like comedies you might want to check out Reno 911 and Drawn Together:

Reno 911

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370194/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Drawn Together

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386180/?ref_=sr_1

Two of my favourite comedy shows of all time. Drawn Together is just twisted - they take beloved cartoon characters and superheroes and turn them into absolutely despicable beings. The show is also HIGHLY politically incorrect - the SJW's would have a coronary watching it.

Reno 911 pokes fun at cops and rednecks, and is mostly ad-libbed.

Great choices! I can't believe I forgot about them.

#6599

Walter Ego wrote:
Guest wrote: yes but that's meaningless when compared to the first real visible male firebrand atheist activists like Madalyn Murray O'Hair
Madalyn Murray O'Hair was male? That's news to me!

Point.

Whoosh.

#6600

katamari Damassi wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Of note: I've always played Chaotic Evil.
You look Chaotic Sexy in that coat.
Also like the new avatar pic. You look like you just left a series of clues in that museum to whatever nefarious scheme you're hatching.

Moriarty.

#6601

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Walter, from what I've gathered, seems to be a really nice guy. He probably hates some of the Pitters, but who doesn't? Anyway, his trolling is way better than oolon's. Make of that what you will.

Although he is coming across as a bit of a try hard right now.

#6602

bovarchist wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
sacha wrote:
I'm beyond the "best before" date
Yeah, right. These days we call them MILFs...
No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.

Andrew V69 gets good photos of cougars.

#6603

sacha wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
sacha wrote:If I was living in a dirt hut without enough food, or clean water, I would not give a toss as to why someone was helping to build me a house.
That is until you discover their aid manual, "To Serve Sacha" is in fact... A COOKBOOK!!! :o

I'm beyond the "best before" date[/quote

That's not what I've heard.

#6604

sacha wrote:
Badger3k wrote:
bovarchist wrote: No no, you're confusing MILFs with cougars.
I thought it was all in the way you looked at it. I thought it was possible to be both, depending on who is doing the pursuing and who is being pursued. Both are predicated upon an age difference. And (possibly) whether or not one has kids, but I don't think the "M" in MILF is really used that specifically.
does dog mum count?

Just means that you are head bitch.

#6605

So I'm just catching up.

Bite me.

#6606

KiwiInOz wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote: Also like the new avatar pic. You look like you just left a series of clues in that museum to whatever nefarious scheme you're hatching.
Moriarty.

I've got it! His real name is Artie Morty!

#6607

KiwiInOz wrote:
Walter Ego wrote:
Guest wrote: yes but that's meaningless when compared to the first real visible male firebrand atheist activists like Madalyn Murray O'Hair
Madalyn Murray O'Hair was male? That's news to me!
Point.

Whoosh.

where have you been Kiwi?

#6608

KiwiInOz wrote:
sacha wrote:
does dog mum count?
Just means that you are head bitch.

indeed. Alpha bitch

#6609

KiwiInOz wrote:
sacha wrote: I'm beyond the "best before" date
That's not what I've heard.

I think I get more sex in the pyt's mind than I do in reality. quite a sad state of affairs

#6610

sacha wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Point.

Whoosh.
where have you been Kiwi?

Popping in and out. Work and life have been cutting into my Slymepit time. I need to do something about re-balancing that.

#6611

clownshoe wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:Hey, Australia - you is our BITCHEZ!!!
I'm amused by it. Schadenfreude. The sooner Clarke fucks off the better.
Previous captains were at least respected, if not loved by all, but even his mum thinks he's a total cunt.

Plus people like Ponting actually had the habit of winning matches, even though the cunt did wear the baggy green...

#6612

windy wrote: Orphan Black looks very interesting.

It's well written and the actress who plays the lead character also plays 4 other characters , (clones raised in different parts of the world), this was probably the best weekly series of 2012.

Supporting cast is also well done.

Watch it if you can.

#6613

Karmakin wrote:
debaser71 wrote:Someone should write an article about how to be an SJW without being a cunt.
Well by definition if you're an SJW you're an asshole, but there are ways to actually do social justice without that.

#1. Focus on problems and potential solutions, not identity.

#2. Don't demand that other people live up to standards that you're unwilling to do so yourself or you're unwilling to enforce on your tribe.

#3. Recognize that complete elimination of any given problem is basically impossible...progress is the goal here.

#4. Recognize that for any given problem, you yourself might be part of said problem.

#5. Recognize that power dynamics go in multiple directions, even simultaneously.

#6. Stop the privilege seeking and the focus on the apex.

And yeah. That's what I can think of for now.

How about for those SJWs that are actually interested in doing some good

Rule nr 1: Don't be a angry SJW asshole. Loose any smug sense of moral superiority you might feel for "getting it", and approach any conversation as a discussion between two equals and not as a chance to preach to the unwashed peons. Never ever simply throw angry SJW buzzwords at people and expect them to change their minds.

(That is of course if you're actually interested in changing anyone's mind, if you're like most SJWs, ie. mainly in it so you can feel good and smug about yourself and getting high on the rage, then by all means do continue your usual SJW "activism", consisting of throwing SJW-buzzwords at people on twitter.)

This is really the single biggest problem I have with SJWs - Most of the times any discussion with them is simply impossible, because they have no interest in actually listening and considering anything else than their own preachings, and when they notice that people around them don't simply fall over in stunned amazement they simply start throwing SJW buzzwords at people and shouting about how evil everyone else is.
It's exactly like discussing with certain zealous theists all over again, who'd start preaching about X, usually complemented with bible or qouran passages, and then, when noticing that the atheists and the other non believers just didn't go "OH WOW YOU'VE SHOWN US THE LIGHT!!!!", they revert to shouting about how everyone is filthy sinners etc.

I've had plenty of good, satisfying discussions with people that I disagree with, like theists and feminists, where even though I didn't end up agreeing with them completely, I've still walked away with a new perspective or a new insight. The thing in common for those discussions though, was that they were discussions, not one guy and his soapbox raging at the evil people who just won't do and think what he want them to do and think, no matter how loud he screams and insults them.

ps. As for TV-shows, a lot of good stuff already mentioned, but I didn't see anyone mention "Life on Mars" yet. Liked that one a lot, has IMO a very good ending, something that TV-shows rarely have. Another show I really enjoyed was the sci fi miniseries "The Lost Room".

#6614

@acathode

The Lost Room was great!

I'll check out Life on Mars, looks interesting.

#6615

sacha said:

apparently Cougars go after young men, so I guess I'm not a Cougar: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... lder-women

More evidence you aren't a cougar- the cougars around here really like dogs to eat, but otherwise really hate them.

#6616

IIRC there was some discussion on Katie Hopkins here recently. She, like Feefles and all the rest of the FTBTards and Twatson, etc, are trollumnists.

#6617

Lsuoma wrote:Hey, Australia - you is our BITCHEZ!!!

Australia are their own bitches. It's like someone said to the boys before the match "go fuck yourselves" and they took it kinda literally.

#6618

I'm calling it- Miri is going to be a serious leader in the atheist movement come the next few decades. She speaks very well on camera and has that sort of nebulous X factor that allows her to command a room (a chat room, in this case, but still). It's immature since she's like 21 but you can see it. Wonky eye or no, I was impressed.

#6619

sacha wrote: A new exposÃ© of Mother Teresa shows that sheâ€”and the Vaticanâ€”were even worse than we thought

Good catch.

In the comments, a link to the following book which you can read online:
Mother Teresa The Final Verdict By Aroup Chatterjee
http://www.meteorbooks.com/index.html

#6620

KiwiInOz wrote: Andrew V69 gets good photos of cougars.

I wish I had. One of my neighbours also rushed up to where he had been spotted but was disappointed just like I was. Anyway, three cougar in the same number of years so perhaps one day.

Meanwhile, I will settle for the bear and deer.

#6621

FrankGrimes wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:Hey, Australia - you is our BITCHEZ!!!
Australia are their own bitches. It's like someone said to the boys before the match "go fuck yourselves" and they took it kinda literally.

It's all OK it's not their fault at all. They are victims of colonialism.

As something said earlier, I often compare the more extreme SJW's to Born Again Christians. The similarities are striking:

1. Often recent converts to their new ideology.

2. Appeals to some emotional need or needs with little attempt at skeptisism/enquiry.

3. Have holy books and prophets. Acceptance of facts based purely on the approved authority. Ad Hominens and appeal to authority are a basic tenant.

4. Anyone who disagrees is told to educate themselves (how many time have us atheists been told that with theists and the bible?)

5. Assertion of moral superiority and righteousness. The holders of the ultimate truth from which all other concepts must be inferior to (even skepticism and critical analyses)

6. Unclear dogma which can change at any time. However others are expected to know exactly what they mean, including the terms 'feminism' or 'social justice' which can actually mean many things to many people.

7. Uncomfortable with people who do not agree with them. Socially awkward so they overcompensate. They emotionally overreact at the slightest socially awkward situation, often making it a lot worse.

8. Take the strongest measures to protect their belief. Shunning, heavy censorship, attacking and a pretence at doing so to promote intellectual cleanliness.

9. A smug glow of superiority without a hint of self examination or humour. Like bible readings most SJW's blogs have a lot of words but little actual content. Ill defined concepts such as 'spiritual' or 'justice' are thrown around with no thought to what they actually mean.

10. They are lazy and make any excuse not to do something rather than moan about it.

11. They justify their own normal human failings such as overeating or smoking as realistic and valid healthy life choices.

12. They make up ailments to garner sympathy / prove they are suffering for their deity and reinforce group acceptance. Some will invent tenuous and undiagnosed mental conditions or intense and often irrational dislikes (triggers/ ban of certain words/ do not blaspheme/swear as it upsets me greatly ) to justify their behaviour or shut down discussion.

13. They never actually do anything really useful or help anyone at all. I had to say that twice as they really are. The people that go out there and stick their necks out to try and do real good in this world are the people I respect, not those clowns. The SJW's and the Born Agains are as much use as a condom with a hole in it.

14. Last but not least, they are no fun.

#6622

AndrewV69 wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Andrew V69 gets good photos of cougars.
I wish I had. One of my neighbours also rushed up to where he had been spotted but was disappointed just like I was. Anyway, three cougar in the same number of years so perhaps one day.

Meanwhile, I will settle for the bear and deer.

I am related by marriage to a journalist in the south of WA state. He got a hysterical call a couple of years ago from a woman saying that she's seen a cougar in the area. He pointed out to her that the place she lived in is actually called Cougar, so perhaps her reaction might possibly have been overreaction?

#6623

JackSkeptic wrote: It's all OK it's not their fault at all. They are victims of colonialism.

That is bootless - the current team is still fucking shite, and they deserved the metaphorical lamping they got!

JackSkeptic wrote: 14. Last but not least, they are no fun.

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#6624

AndrewV69 wrote:
sacha wrote: A new exposÃ© of Mother Teresa shows that sheâ€”and the Vaticanâ€”were even worse than we thought
Good catch.

In the comments, a link to the following book which you can read online:
Mother Teresa The Final Verdict By Aroup Chatterjee
http://www.meteorbooks.com/index.html

Hmmm... only up to chapter three is free.

#6625

Lsuoma wrote:
JackSkeptic wrote: It's all OK it's not their fault at all. They are victims of colonialism.
That is bootless - the current team is still fucking shite, and they deserved the metaphorical lamping they got!
JackSkeptic wrote: 14. Last but not least, they are no fun.
****youtube not funny clip inserted here***

Damn you Sir, damn you to hell!!!! Duel at dawn next to the canal. Bring your own fish.

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